Cougars end 17-year NCAA tourney drought
not a good outcome if you are a florida gator fan as i am. k state is more
physical than either byu or florida so the fun won't last long.
BYU is a great team but they do get flustered and lose their composure. If they
play as well as they are capable of playing and not get too stressed out, they
can go a long ways. If they play well they will beat Kansas State. I honestly
believe they are more talented than Kansas State. BYU has not done as well when
they are under pressure and they have sometimes folded. As for Utah, I hope
they have a better team next year. I would even like to see them go to the NCAA
tourney. I cheer for Utah except in the MWC games. Go Cougars!!
Re: Kansas State @ 1:29 pmThanks for sharing the mind set of the
Kansas City Star. Not surprising and totally expected. I do agree that BYU
needs their big guys to play their best game of the season. BYU can play with
anyone, but the key will be the play of our big guys tomorrow. The Kansas City
Star doesn't think BYU's big guys can step up to the plate when called on. I
think they can. That's why the game is played ans we will see. One thing:
Florida's big guys brought their "A" game yesterday and played very well and
very hard. I hope our bug guys learned from that.As for the rest of
the Kansas City Star comments, well, sounds a lot like comments made in Oklahoma
in late August last year. I'm just saying.......
There's a very good chance he's right and K State will win. So why even bother
having a tournament? Why not just let these writer genuises determine on paper
who beat who and declare a champion?Vanderbilt appeared to be a much
better team than Murray State - on paper. K State also appears to be much better
than BYU. And maybe they really are. Then again, maybe BYU will be able to beat
them somehow. Like the saying goes, "That's why they PLAY the games."
Just win Cougars!There is no greater smack than a simple gesture to
1944 NIT > NCAA1947 NIT = NCAA1951 NIT = NCAA1966 NCAA >
NIT1947 and 1951 national championships, debatable1944 and
1966 national championships, definitely not
The Ute fans have pointed out how lucky BYU is to have won. They are right. I
can only think of 5 things that would be worse than what happened last night.1. Losing the game instead of winning and playing another day.2. Not
having my favorite team in the tournament like the Ute fans this years3.
Losing as a #5 seed like the inferiors up north did last year.4. Not
having my team in the NIT like the inferiors up north this year.5. Not
even having my team in the CBI like the inferiors up north this year.But, the Utes did make the final four a million years ago with Van Horn and
Miller leading the way. How many times did Van Horn and Miller make the "ball go in the hoop" this year? Exactly.
Here is a quote from Sam Mellinger of the Kansas City Star."Before we get
too far here, it’s important to point out that Kansas State should advance
to its first Sweet 16 since 1988 – no matter how many points Fredette
scores.Fredette is the interesting part of this game, but the
Wildcats will win because they are significantly stronger and more athletic
inside. BYU has some size but starts three guards and doesn’t have the
athletic ability to match up with K-State’s forwards, particularly Curtis
Kelly and Samuels.One of BYU’s biggest weaknesses is
rebounding, a K-State strength that should mean the Wildcats win."
Before the NCAA tournament was anything, the NIT was the big show, and BYU has
more national championships that the Utes.
That is a tautomerism. Nice win Cougars, but it was almost too
I tried to go and post a comment on a Ute article...but I couldn't find one? Is
there a way to post on articles in the archives from 1998?
That was by far the best comment I have seen on this website to date (coming
from a Ute fan).Good luck with K-state. I don't think BYU matches
up well with them but we'll just have to see.
Jimmer is no Danny Ainge, the greatest cougar ever.
When bloggers like "one-and-done" (aka "won-and-done")post their inane
comments, BYU fans would do well to consider the source,a
snotty-nosed 12-year-old BYU hater with an outdated three-year-old laptop that
was passed down to him by his older brother,andnot even
give him the satisfaction of a response.
Congrats to the Cougars. It was a hard-fought win. I was cheering for all the
MWC teams and I only wish SDSU and UNLV had been able to win their games.
Still, I was encouraged to see 4 MWC teams compete in these games. If Utah or
any other MWC team was in, I would have cheered for them too. I agree with the
Gator Fan about the Ute sniping that goes on. These are all young men trying to
do their best--I give them my respect. I can cheer for BYU without denigrating
the other great programs in our conference.
Well written article; I enjoyed it.@Blueboy: great point! Let's hope
they bring their A game against Kansas St. Another concern I'd add
to that list is Jimmer Fredette's playing style. While it is very good for
Jimmer Fredette, it's not so good for his teammates, especially the bigs. Jimmer seriously overdribbles. Yes, it lets him probe
defenses and break things down...But it also turns his teammates
into spectators. Most players need to be involved in a real way to
be real contributors. Until they are involved, they're going to struggle to
bring A game each time. Jimmer will need more than Jimmer Fredette
to beat Kansas State. He'll need a TEAM, and a team that brings its A game.
Thanks for a great year of entertainment . Congrats. and keep going. 83 year
old. A fan for 73 years....
Since Utah fans no longer consider close wins as legitimate wins, Utah's "lucky"
2008 wins over Oregon State and TCU have now been officially recorded as
losses.Your 2008 Sugar Bowl Trophy has been forfeited and will be
sent to the legitimate winner -- Alabama.
Go Cougars!! Beat Kansas State. Wish we had.OSU Fan
wow. BYU still has a basketball team? I thought they had finally dropped
athletics because they were never on TV anymore. Oh well, maybe next year.
from a happy Cougar Fan
BYU could win in all, but won't. Why? The bigs are playing horrible. Florida
had some average guys in the middle and they looked like superstars. The Y bigs
cant handle the ball well and are too weak to score. Unless JF has 40+ points
they are going down. Honesty. Please.
shoulda, coulda, woulda is what U live forThere's nothing more
pathetic than fans of a supposed "top program" talking smack about their rival's
"almost losses" in the Big Dance.
Congrats to BYU and all of its fans. Any tourney win is a great win. Enjoy the
moment. Don't listen to mindless ute fans; the good majority of us Utah fans
will happily congratulate you. We both know that there are 5-10% idiots on both
sides that spew vitrol. From Ute Nation -- Congrats.
A Billion Chinese don't even care.
Congratulations. You squeaked out a win in double OT from a 6th place SEC team
that lost 12 times this year.Honestly, BYU should have lost in regulation.
Did you see that FL final shot? It was half way down the basket and came
out.VERY VERY LUCKY
The BYU/UTE tradition should exude the same sportsmanship as displayed on the
floor or field. After all this is what we train our kids, and I have never
personally known a good athlete who has taken pride in setting an ugly example
for young- sters who might be watching them anywhere in the US.This
was a great win for Utah as well as for BYU. Here in the northwest we also
witnessed a great win as Washington slipped past Marquette.WASP
To Neighbors @1:12. Thanks for the good comments. I agree with you 100%. I just
wish that everyone would read and heed. It is too bad what the internet has done
to some people. It sure makes them brave and who knows what else it does to them
without them even knowing what is happening.Congrats to the entire
BYU team and coaches. Go out there on Saturday and have some fun doing that
thing you do so well. Your only young once, so just enjoy it and give it your
The funniest thing of all for you Y Haters is that you'll still have Boilin' and
his cast of JC transfers next year!Bwaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaa
Haaaaaaaaa"Two and through - where was the U?"
"Rise and shout." How exciting it was to see this team be tough in the end and
win. It was thrilling to hear of their celebration in the locker room. It was
well derserved, and we cheer with them! Thank you, Dave Rose and team, for a
delivering a great year of basketball. Coach Rose also came from behind in his
tremendous health issues and came out a winner as an inspiration to his great
team and to us all.
As a diehard Gator fan living in Virginia, I’d like to congratulate the
Cougars on a hard fought victory. I also thought the Desert News did a good job
of describing the game. However, I must say I’m surprised to read all the
ugly fan posts. Usually the posts give you a better perspective of the game but
all I can see is gloating in the face of your rival Utah. Just seems rather
strange that after finally getting a victory in the NCAA tournament all your
thoughts and concerns are only directed toward a team that isn’t even
playing in the tournament. I suppose it’s different at Florida where we
have many rivals and the focus isn’t about obsessing about our naysayers
but rising above them.Good luck in the tournament
That Florida is a really bad team. I really think that Utah or Wyoming would
beat the Gators 7 of 10 times.
Now that the monkey's off the back, this Cougar team is free to play like they
can. The Cougars have already outplayed San Diego State, UNLV, and even New
LUCKYLUCKY!!! FL should have won this twice.
Do you like your eggs easy over or over easy???
I'm happy for BYU. I hope they beat Kansas State and have a chance to showcase
at home in the ESA.
Utes fan here to congratulate the BYU team in it's long awaited NCAA tournament
win!FYI, there is an equal amount of haters posting on each school's
articles. It's ridiculous to think it only goes one way.Good luck
to Dave Rose and his team. He's a classy coach and represents BYU very well.
I'd hope the Cougar fans would follow his example and forget about making
comparisons to the team up on the hill, after all, it's hard to compare 12 wins
to 35, right? You don't have 15 sweet 16s or 4 final fours. Lose the
bitterness and enjoy your time with a successful program!Good luck
All you cry baby UTEs boo hoo hoo. Next year wont be any better your big can't
walk and chew gum at the same time. And Marsha Brady will enough said.BYU will rest relax and then win again. How great will it be when the Cougars
are playing in your back yard.!!! When that Cougar invaded Utahs campus it was
an omen of great things to come.
Used to be I had to talk to my neighbors when the Y won or lost. It was fun to
tease when the Y won and I had to take the jokes when they lost. Now on these
message boards people say things that they would NEVER say to the guy next door
who mows your lawn when you are out of town, or makes sure your kid isn't
playing in the street. Hiding behind the anonymity of a message board makes some
people feel entitled to be brash, crude and even bigoted. I congratulate those
who are civil on these message boards and truly feel sorry for those who spew
hate and anger. Get over it. Most if not all of us still have to go to work the
next day even if our team wins or loses. Y or U or USU fan, I hope you are more
humane in your treatment of each other. Celebrate the other teams
accomplishments and enjoy it when your team is winning, but remember next
season, you could be the one with the losing record.
Better "won and done" than "done and done". Utah's athletic program is failing
Re: Well-deserved???@11:41 pm.Florida's coach, Billy Donovan said
that this game was the most physical game his team played in all year. BYU
played physical, they played hard, sure they made mistakes, but they never gave
up. Florida is a Jeckel and Hyde team and they brought their "A" game today
against BYU. BYU deserved to win because when the clock hit "0.00" BYU had 99
points and Florida had 92. You and guys like you have selective
memories of the last two decades. Maybe you might want to go back and relive
those memories. There's a guy named Napoleon D. that will probably sell you a
time machine cheap. Please look him up, you deserve the shock...ooops, I mean
shot od living in the past.
Leave to Dick Harmon to turn BYU's first round win into a "game of the century"
victory. Nice win Cougars but K-State is waiting for you. Will DH turn that
into a "game of the century" defeat if the Cougars lose?
Cancel the world of sports, because poor Mr anti-"well-deserved" doesn't believe
any athlete or sports team ever "deserved" to win anything.Are all
Utah fans really such pathetic haters that they can give BYU credit for
You are a yewt loser!
this guy has to be the most pathetic loser on the planet to continue with his
trash talking after being thoroughly humiliated with his clueless "one-and-done"
Shaddup until you have a team again.
I can hardly watch the play of BYU's inside guys on both ends of the court
without putting my hands squarely over my worried eyes.Hartsock 3-7
2-2 8, Miles 1-1 0-0 2, Davies 0-1 0-2 0, Tavernari 2-6 0-0 6, a combined 6 of
15, 16 pathetic points from 60% of the starters. Davies has the
potential to show some power underneath but the others might as well be
mannequins for their quickness after the ball and ability to react on defense. I
see a line of Russell Larson zombie rag dolls on the court seemingly to meet the
required team of 5. Kudos big-time for Jimmer and Loyd, they were real men
today. If Davies can mature and show consistency, Hartsock would only see
cleanup time. All 4 MWC losses were to UNLV or Old/New Mexico Lizzie Lambert
Tech, when the guards couldn't carry the team, and the opponents were too strong
under the bucket. If this team had a forward/center man up, making it to the
Final Eight would be a certainty.Whip the WildCats!!!!!!
How was this win well-deserved? What did BYU do to "deserve" this win? What
did Florida do to not "deserve" to win this game? Did BYU somehow "deserve" to
lose all those first round NCAA tourney games the past two decades? What a weak
thing to say about the result of a game.
Yep. 30 win season. Lame program.99 points. Lame offense.Now if we could just build to the goal of 1-8 in basketball and 1 of 4 in
football against the yewts, and take the season off early, we would be worthy to
Great win, but we still need better Defense. Dave Rose was right. They needed
all 99 points to win, the question will they be able to get that many next time.
Let's hope so.
That was one of the guttiest performances I've ever seen. Just a tremendous
college basketball game. Looks like its up to BYU and the Lobos to represent
the MWC. I was hoping all four teams would advance.
BYU won, and now will be done in the next game. So One and done
shifts to Won and done.One win in 17 years! Quality
You gotta love it baby!
To all of you that predicted "one and done". Now what clever rhyme will you
come up with? Since you probably are not smart enough to come up with something
on your own, I will help: "Two and through." But don't count on it.
Where is Hot rod when need him?Loyd - the fastest of them
all,the next ricky green?
People! The Cougs just won a tourney game! Enjoy it! I can ignore the stupid U
fans who post garbage but if you are a Y fan just enjoy it! Every player had a
role today (Emery chased around an athletic guy 5 inches taller than him the
whole game, Hartsock took a big charge at the end, etc.) and Jimmer's was to
score! Thank goodness he (and Lloyd) did! Now enjoy it! And then get ready to
watch them do it again on Saturday! Go Cougs!
Re: not a team Huh? They win and their not a team? Lamest comments ever.
Keep playing like your playing Cougs, everything from here on is icing on the
cake. All players contributed to this win, Lloyd was awesome, Jackson hiting
that key three, Haws key free throws, Davies rebounding and playing smart, JT's
key 3, Hartsock was great Miles and Abuo solid and Jimmer was amazing as usual.
Hey we are winning! Get over all the drama. Most coaches only have a
few key guys they lean on and everyone else is a role player. Jimmer is a great
team player. Has it ever occurred to you Rice is calling all the plays for
Jimmer because he delivers and Rice doesn't like other options. Life is tough,
deal with it.Go COUGARS!!
Great win, but that was a scary game, Florida just wouldn't go away. Lyod jr
really sparked BYU in the first half and came up big throughout the game. Jimmer
did his typical thing again and took over in the second overtime. BYU didnt play
real good interior defense in this game, they need to do a better job against
Kansas state. Nice to get a win though and break that long drought. Go Cougars!
Is Haws suffering from his eye injury still? Why didn't he play in the second
half? Charles and LeMont didn't get in either. Where did our depth go?
Didn't Rice come from UNLV and USU? You would think he would have learned more.
Regardless, you are right, this offense is not pretty. When the national
'experts' comment on BYU in the pre-game, they cite all the BYU media talking
points about great passing and team play. When the 'experts' comment after
seeing BYU, you never hear those compliments. They will say Jimmer is talented,
but the 'team' or sharing comments are lost in the evidence.None the less,
go cougars(go away haters)
How the kuwgs win is a little odd. If Lloyd isn't sprinting for a layup, Jimmer
is dribbling, and dribbling, and dribbling to get off a shot. To shoot over 25
times is not fun to watch. Either the whole team can't shoot, or Rice is a
terrible offensive coach (contrary to points scored). I am having fun
watching other TEAMS play and compete to win. Has anyone wondered what
happened to JT this season? Answer: Jimmer. When the team passes the ball around
JT can shoot in the flow of the game. JT follows the circle of life and his
energy flows with a TEAM game. When he stands around to watch Jimmer dribble and
shoot, he becomes an average player, which is what all other players have turned
into. (all starters are doing less at the end of the season because Jimmer has
taken everyone out of sync.)
I think Jimmer should dribble more.
just had to show his fuzzy face! No more one and done, lil bro. But there is
still none and done!How's that jc transfer hunting working for u?
please ignore the haters. Don't call them ute fans. They are not ute fans, just
BYU haters. All most none of the haters even know how the utes did this year.
The real ute fans are laying in the closet in the fetal positions crying like
babies. These slugs posting the hate are BYU haters not Ute fans. Lets not give
them the milk they so badly need.
Thanks for you cool comments. Last I checked your beloved Utes are at home. Not
even the NIT wanted your pathetic Utes! If you want to dig up the past in either
sports, then lets talk. Oh wait, I bet you will have a time limit on what BYU
can bring up but your final four from 12 years ago is still valid!
Congratulations on the win but, 1 win at an NCAA tournament is nothing like
winning the Super Bowl. I think Steve Young winning the Super Bowl was much
better than this win. Can expectations have fallen that low. Maybe BYU should
look for a new AD if 1 win at the NCAAs is the standard. This team should be
expecting no less than regular sweet 16s.
Go get'em in the NCAA. Oh wait...Go get'em in the NIT. Oh wait...Go
get'em in the stories of past glory days... well, there's always that. Don't
forget to tell us about your national championship during WWII.
Talk when you have something noteworthy to talk about, like a final 4 or a BCS
win(or two)Go utes!
I am now a sports fan! Go Cougars
I love the cougars!
BYU's mistakes versus Florida:Unforced turnovers = 4 total; 1 first
half, 2 second half, 1 first overtime; NOT BAD! But, points lost would've
prevented overtime!Missed easy layups = 9 total; evenly distributed
throughout game. Lack of focus on some of them. Even making just one more of
those would've prevented overtime.Bad shots early in shot clock = 0.
Wow! Good patience. Way to run the offense! (Florida itself had several of
those.)Dumb fouls = 4; two in each half; none in overtimes. Not bad,
but shouldn't be happening.Bad passes = 2, only in first half. VERY
NICE! Way to take care of the ball.Traveling calls = 2, only first
half. Respectable.Dribbling out the clock forcing bad shot = 2, both
in second half. Acceptable, except that they helped getting into overtime.All told, 23 miscues, evenly distributed throughout the game.
Consistent, at least.I'd give BYU a B+ for this game.Now, against K-State, no chance of winning if BYU doesn't play a cleaner
game.BYU will need their A game to beat K-State.
Thanks for your gracious thoughts... Maybe next year we get 5 teams in and Wyo
will be there too.
The pressure is off now we are the underdogs.
what a great win. congrats.
Way to go Cougars!
GREAT win, learn from todays mistakes, now that you have this monkey off your
back go out and win another one. You can win Saturday, relax and have fun doing
it. GO COUG's