Comments about ‘Utah clinicians say it's now or never for health care reform’

On the national news today, there was a poll that said that 46% of all medical professionals would leave the industry if the current proposed Health Care Reform were to pass. SCARY. Doesnt sound like too many have faith in this proposal.

Also, what happened to Obamas campaign promise of no earmarks? This HC bill is FULL of earmark payoffs. Its a joke. Where is Utahs payoff? Everybody should get a piece of the National Debt Pie, right?

Then I say "never"!

We prefer never bo. Go away

Health care reform has been urgently needed for several years, this is not a new problem. During Bush's 8 years in office, the Republicans controlled both the House and Senate for some of that time. When they had the chance to do it their way, what did the Republicans do to reform health care?
(Long silence)
Now the Republicans would like us to believe that if we will just put them back in power, they will do health care reform right? As the saying goes, "Fool me once..."
Obama's plan has several flaws but at least give the man credit for actually trying to fix an emormous problem that the Republicans kicked on down the road.

P.S.

How do you pay for two wars without raising taxes. Republican's answer...borrow trillions from the Chinese,Saudi's and Russians and let our grandchildren pay for it. Again, kick the problem down the road.
Now we are to believe that the Republicans have suddenly "got religion" when it comes to fiscal discipline? "Fool me twice..."

Here comes obama care! Get ready for rationed health care. Get ready for which doctor you can see. Oh here the best part your taxes will skyrocket.

Health Care is something one must do for oneself. Health insurance is an investment decision for the future that should be made with care and not by government bureaucracy. If we have a system which allows people to exploit it and cause it to fail, then the regulations on the system are to blame, for they are the enablers of the current condition.

In economics there is something called a supply and demand curve. If current policy requires people to be treated, then there is great supply, so theoretically the price should be low. However, we know this is not the case. The market should determine the price of care in hospitals, not government mandates or legislation. Largely these regulations create the horrible conditions we see all around us.

Nevertheless, more government regulation is not key here. I don't know what the solution is, but I know that freedom doesn't come from giving your right to choose health care to the government. Less wasteful government regulation, and more cooperation between states is a big part of the solution.

What we have is a country full of opportunistic money grubbing selfish people interested only in the lining of their pockets with money. They are called Republicans among other things. Nothing else matters to them other than their own gain at ANY expense including OTHER people's lives. Until we do something about THAT problem we will continue to have more problems than we know what to do with. Obviously, the Republicans ARE the problem and not part of the solution. They are showing this by their actions and by what they say without thought.

2 wrongs don't make a right!

To madAmerican:
What you describe there is EXACTLY what we have in place right now..........the INSURANCE COMPANIES are your controllers. THEY determine which doctor you will see and what conditions will be covered and this without any consideration for the patient's health OR welfare.

Health care reform needs to happen, but it needs to happen the right way! Just because someone is trying to fix the problem doesn't mean that they are making the problem better. What he is doing is making it worse by not having tort reform! No legislation is going to do any good w/out caps on law suits. Doctors pay enormous fees in malpractice ins. and ins. companies pay billions in ridiculous suits. Costs would go down on there own if that problem alone were fixed!

Ignorance is bliss! Has anyone actually read the healthcare bill? Do you know what is in it? Blame it on the Republicans! At least they want meaningful change. Free market change! If this Democrat bill is so great why do they need to bribe people to vote for it? This is total corruption! Utah will become a "nanny" state and your taxes will go sky high...especially because those of you with healthcare and a job will be paying the most. Reward failure and punish success - that is the way of the liberals!

1. Limit insurance companies rates. If the head ceo makes 50 million yearly, the rates do not change. If you are healthy, your premium is less and will not change year to year.
2. Lower the cost/fees of specialists and distribute to primary care physicians. A procedure that costs 3k to perform in 30 min (colonoscopy) should not cost that. I know, school loans vs years of schooling. How much do GI doctors make a year 300-400k? Don't tell me they cant pay their expenses.
3. Some patient accountability please. You gain weight=you pay more. You control your diabetes=you pay less.
4. Tort Reform. Defensive medicine is fueled from true stories where outrageous sums of money have been won. Most physicians do not intentionally go out of their way to harm. There are several examples, I know. However, what if they would have cut into the physicians son in law and found a normal appendix? Can you just sew him up? I guarantee you, the surgeon would have been sued for negligence. Defensive medicine folks (CYA).
5. Stop the war and all the money that goes to it. Our taxes will go up with this.

Who is paying for the senators, congressmen(and women), and all the government employees insurance,
as well as their high salaries? You are. And if their job is so hard and the pay so little why do they spend so much money getting elected? And the ones who pay for their campaign..(the big contributors) do they get repaid? And since you are already riled up about things, how about looking up on google "How the Bushes made their money." Is it true? I do not know, but it does make interesting reading.

If government could fix all of our problems, don't you think (keyword: think) they wouldn't have done so already? No more crime, poverty, substance abuse, homelessness, mortagage default, credit card debt? Lets have government solve all of our problems. It is easy. Why hasn't this been tried before?

Texas enacted tort reform and limited the amount of money that could be awarded to victims of malpractice. Guess what? Insurers did NOT pass on the cost savings to the people by lowering their premiums. If left alone, insurers will not fix this problem. They are making far too much money to want to tamper with the current system.

Switzerland's health care reform is very similiar to what Romney did in Massachusetts (before it was later tampered with). Health care remained a privately run industry in Switzerland, but the government told the insurers they had to provide decent coverage at an affordable price so that everyone could afford health insurance. The companies were free to make higher profits on other plans and services but basic coverage had to be affordable or the insurers would not be allowed to do business. Result, nearly everyone in Switzerland is covered and it didn't bankrupt the country.

Here is an example of pure conflict of interest hiding behind an M.D. degree. Clearly, these clinicians are an example of how broken our disease treatment system is. How about this, open up the care system to all competition-foreign and domestic, rid it of the professional services created monopoly and watch prices fall, and outcomes improve. Another thought, open the payment system up to foreign care. Currently, in every single specialty area quality care can be purchased for much, much less in foreign countries. How about a 2 week stay in Brazil or India at less cost with procedures performed by physicians that are as good and sometimes better than here at home. But, no just keep the monopoly scam running and fully funded. There is not a single revision in the current bill that is true system reform, it is rationing or rationalizing, but not reform.

it didn't bankrupt the country because the public system only provides the basic care coverage (rationing), which price is fully regulated. Here we are now trying to mandate expanded coverage, and claim it will reduce costs. Read the article about the examples of non-coverage and you will see some examples of cases in which basic coverage will not apply. BTW, your agree tort reform will have little impact on insurance cost, but it should still be enacted. It is an excuse for every kind of test abuse in the system.

I HAVE read many parts of the health care bill. Most of the criticism is just propaganda by the SPIF. There are no death panels. You WILL pick your own doctor. The list goes on.

Why do the Republicans so desperately want Health care reform to fail? Simple. Once Americans have it, they will realize that the Republicans were lying about it all along.

Obama was right on during his campaign for President; Health care reform will be the best thing that can be done to boost the economy. Too much of our money goes into the insurance execs pockets.

To all your children if Health Care Reform fails: Do NOT aspire to be a doctor or a lawyer. The BIG money is insurance. And if you want good, inexpensive health care where you can't be turned down, become a legislator.

BTW, I have spent my business expansion money on increased health care premiums for the last 6 years.

Profit increase yearly average: 18%.
Health care insurance premiums: 21%/year increase.
New employees hired annually: 0

To National Poll: Where did you get that absolutely ridiculous piece of info? That is an out and out lie!!!! People, use your common sense. Would doctors and nurses REALLY give up their professions over this?!?!? 46% of them???? Ludicrous!!!!

I too am an EXRepublican. But, you are a fool to think this bill will magically reduce the cost of health care for you. The whole..."It will save money and balance the budget" thing is a LIE. It is sooo obvious to anyone who cares to be truthful. How is collecting taxes for 10 years...to pay for 6 years of health care expenses...going to SAVE us money??? MMMmmmm??? And what happens after that? Duuhhh...do we go another 4 years paying taxes without service? That's where the DEATH panels come in. No...they wouldn't foolishly put that in the bill but yes, they'll tell us "tough decisions needed to be made".

And where in the HISTORY of the our government have they EVER collected taxes and stored them away in a lockbox, safe from those corrupt bad politicians, so that they're applied to the actual costs that occur in the future? Let me think...oh yes,NEVER! The money will somehow vanish and we the people will have to pay a 2nd time.

Please...don't be a fool!