Comments about ‘Health care worse in U.S.’

I've had similar experiences while living in Europe. Unfortunately most Americans have little knowledge what true health care is in most industrialized nations.

When will people like the writer learn that the United States is not a socialist country just yet, despite Obama’s wish’s. There is a big difference between the U.S. and Germany where the writer claims to have lived for 14 years. And doesn’t understand how Germany along with England and other European countries are scrambling to find money to keep their socialized systems going. Just this last year England was told by independent auditors that if they wanted to keep things going they would have to shut down around a hundred hospitals and fire hundreds of doctors and nurses. That article was published here in the D.N.
We are a country who’s government was based on freedom, not government control. Freedom is our RIGHT. But the way things are looking the writer may get her short sighted wish.

None of this was based on your income? What world do you live in? Is the price of the milk you buy based on your income? How about gasoline? Did you have to fill out some kind of application listing your income so that they would know how much to charge you for a gallon of gas?

Why do you want the price of health care to be tied to your ability to pay? Is your health any more important than the health of anyone else? Should your doctor charge you double because you drive a nice car or wear an expensive coat?

What was it about Europe that made shiploads of our ancestors flee for their lives and for their livelihood? Why does Europe's siren song appeal to Mr. Obama and those that side with him in his effort to make America part of Europe?

Thanks Nancy for pointing out the insanity.

The German system is mostly private, and from all accounts, is vastly superior to the American system. Conservatives always talk about letting the states form "mini laboratories" to figure out the best way to run health care, while places like Germany have had successful private systems for years. I fear our country has turned in to a nation of wimps, afraid to make the hard decisions required to make things work.

John C., the European nations are free, just as free as the U.S. Money is tight in the U.K., just as it is here in the U.S., mostly due to the economy. Even the Conservatives want to put a fence around health care and not cut it. They love the system because it benefits the people ahead of the profit-takers. We are more concerned with making money for big corporations than we are in making life better for the people. And I'll say this, because of greed, the health care bill will fall short. But at least it is a start in the right direction.

John C.: so are you admitting, at the very least, that Europe's health care IS better than America's, but you just don't want to pay for it.

I find it disgusting when people self-righteously wrap America's mediocrity in the flag and call it patriotism.

I, or no one else should be a slave to your heath and income.

If you love germany so much why did you return to such an awful place?

Now what was it that the germans brought us? Oh yes, the Holocaust...

No thanks.

Why the misleading headline? She says the health care was "not necessarily better", she didn't say it was worse.

Why should the price you pay for anything be based on your income? prices for most things are based on supply and demand.

Charles Krauthammer (sp??) made a good point the other day when asked about the socialist European nations from whence many of our ancestors sprang. He said those who immigrated here were more independent, more likely to chaffe under the imperial yoke, so their descendents (us) would be more likely to be more independent and not want to have to rely on the government to take care of them. So while our distant cousins are content to have more fascets of their lives controlled by the government, we are not.

The more you rely on someone else, the less independence and freedom you have. Wasn't it Franklin who said, if you give up freedom for security you will soon have neither? That applies to a lot more things than national defense.

Healthcare is not a commodity like milk or gas. No one goes shopping for an appendectomy or times it so they can do it after a Christmas bonus is paid out. No one is free when facing death and disability due to lack of care or bankruptcy because of costs that out pace every other nation. People fled Europe in the 17 and 1800s. I don't see that flood today. Maybe somethings changed?

your blindness is numbing! You miss the point and the issue!

Do a little homework and stop thinking that Obamamania is the way life should be.
Have you ever spent time on the south side of Chicago?
Please take the time to do so...it might open your eyes!

Americans are enslaved by corporate creed. Go to the gas pump and see. It was corporate greed that ruined our economy. Europeans have more freedom in many ways. They can move from one job to the new career and not worry about health care. Americans are wage slaves.

We don't wanna learn it, so we up and ain't gonna learn it! That'll fix us

The simple answer to this letter is that This Is Not Germany. Our Constitution does not allow federal involvement in health care.

Traditionally Americans take care of ourselves. When we're knocked down, we don't ask for hand-outs, we work hard and pull ourselves up. We don't like overseers, nannies, or Big Brother. We value individual liberty and limit government authority with the most inspired and wise Constitution the world has ever known. If we're poor, we admit it's our own danged fault. When someone attacks us, we pull together and fight back like no one else on earth. And when one of our family or friends has tough times, we rally around to help. We give more to help in disasters than anyone else.

I'll take that over high taxes and nanny-state government any time, even with the trade-offs.

The writer is spot on. The most amazing part is how much people like mike, lost and johnc have bought the idiotic idea the socialized health care limits freedom. It greatly expands freedom. Freedom to start a small business, freedom to move to another state, freedom to change jobs.
In my opinion there are three positions to take on this issue. You are for health care reform because it is the right thing to do and will save money in the long run, you are against health care reform because you are very wealthy and dont care about the poor, or you are against health care reform because you have been fooled by the reich wing noise machine.

"The simple answer to this letter is that This Is Not Germany. Our Constitution does not allow federal involvement in health care."

But the constitution was never meant to be an unchangeable document. It can be changed to incorporate a German-like health care system. It just needs to be pushed through correctly and an amendment passed.

That's the simple answer.

"I, or no one else should be a slave to your heath and income."

But you already are, my friend. Where do you think the money comes from that bails out banks, car companies, illegal immigrants, pays for wars, government aid, nation building, and education?

"Now what was it that the Germans brought us? Oh yes, the Holocaust...

No thanks."

What a cheap slap in the face to the German people. can you conservatives even try to have an intelligent discussion without being offensive? The Nazis and more specifically, Hitler gave us the Holocaust, not Germany. Using your logic, America put Fidel Castro into power, the Ayatollah, and gave us the Korean, cold, Iraqi, and Vietnam Wars.

Germany has given us Newton, Einstein, Goddard, Mozart, and Beethoven. and a model system of health care.

You're right on, Nancy. Like you, I lived and worked overseas for about 15 years. Too many Americans have no idea about the success of other nations' models for health care - and many other things. It's nothing more than fear than is preventing us from having a better system.

your romantic response. Ahhh, those were the good ol' days, weren't they?
Fast forward a hundred years, and now we have a very fast paced, modern world, where "pull yourself up by your own bootstraps" doesn't really work anymore.

Personally, I'd like to go back in time too, back to a simpler time. Life seemed easier back then, eh?

And once again we have the most ignorant in our society listening to their pundits who are trying to control language.

Progressive is code for liberal
Liberal is code for democrat
Democrat is code for socialist
And socialist is code for communist

We have Neo-McCarthyism all over again.

And a time when Americans should be coming together more than ever.