Why isn't the Johnson boy from Green River 1st team?!?! Anyone that saw that kid
play knows he is a monster and one of the best. He averaged what 25 points 15
boards 5 blocks a game at the state tourney?
If those stats are right I will be suprised. If they are right then wow he is a
ummm.....He didn't get enough votes?? Just saying, that's the way it works!
The very beginning of the article says that it is based on a coaches vote and
that 21 of 28 coaches in 1A voted.
there are a few names of the list the sophmore fenom eddie dunham BV lightning
quik point guard in Korde chynowth also riley miller panguitch not mention many
more two guys from wasatch academy wow
A quick look at the Des News stat page verifies that those stats are accurate -
at least points wise.. It would seem coaches put alot of merit in how far a
player advances his team. All of the first team players were on teams that
played on the 4th day of the tournament. Only Johnson and Robbie Giles of
Tabiona made the second team and were from teams that did not play all 4 games.
I would guess had Green River beaten Liahona or Tabby defeated Panguich they
would have been first team. To be first or second team you must not only be a
great player but also good enough to get your team deep into the playoffs. The suprise to me is that the MVP is Caden Anderson and not Kace Roundy.
I watched both players and although Caden is the better player, in cruch time
Kace was able to carry his team to victory and Caden was not. Over
all and as usual the Des News All State teams are more accurate than the Trib.
The stats that were cited about Johnson are pretty accurate. He averaged 23
points and 10.5 boards a game. Those stats were submitted to Des News by myself
three times, but they have yet to put all the correct stats on our page. It's
probably right though about not playing on the fourth day. But getting him on
second team isn't bad coming from our little town...
humm those guys were good but not as good as the ones on the list and if there
is a discrepancy I would say it is the MVP Tyson Westwood was the best there not
only for his team but overall. I am not from Piute.
"After Kace Roundy, Bryce Valley's star player, fouled out early in the fourth
quarter, all of the supporting players made brilliant plays" "although Caden is the better player, in cruch time Kace was able to carry his
team to victory and Caden was not" Wow that shounds like he was real
effective in carrying his team to victory to me. How does sitting on the bench
carry your team to victory? The MVP is as it should be Caden is the
better player overall rather his team won the championship or not!!!
If it was not about politics, rich would have five guys in all state. They were
the best all year, not just four days
Well if makes you feel any better the state's leading scorer, 1a through 5a,
plus 1a's top three-point shooter only had two coaches vote for him. Didn't even
make 3rd team. That should give you an idea how silly this thing is.
Some of these comments are what is silly. Not many people know the game as well
as the coaches who vote. The coaches know what players they have to work their
defense around. The high scorer is not always the best player on the floor.
There are cherry pickers who score a lot off of the efforts of others. The best
player is often the ball handler who is able to get the ball through the
defense, is smart enough to see the floor and know when to give an assist. He's
not always the high scoreman. Give the coaches the credit they deserve.
It only makes sense that if you don't play in the state tourney for all of the
coaches in the other regions to watch you, you probably don't have much of a
chance to get their votes. Rightly so. There's just not a better way to do it.
Also-coaches know that it takes a lot more than scoring to make an all-state
Of course every kid who plays high school basketball would like to make the
all-state first team. That isn't reality. Instead of acting like poor sports and
fools, let's congratulate the kids who do earn the honors. Let's respect the
coaches' choices. They see the game and players from a better perspective than
those of us who just observe. Let's thank the Deseret News for all of their
efforts to recognize our high school athletes. They do a fabulous job and make
the banquet and Jazz game an experience these kids will always remember. Thanks
to the players, the coaches and the Des News for making this a fun basketball
Why would not 2 kids from Wasatch be there in all state mention ?
finally someone with some class Congrats to all, you couldnt have said it better
I didnt see any Wasatch kids that dominated. I did see a WA team choke against
eventual state champs Bryce Valley.
Why where there 8 coaches who did not even vote?
Miners got a improved baller next year. this year he hirt his ankle. he had to
go into rehad. so he wasn't able to go ballin, watch out next yea
The grammar and spelling in this last post makes me cringe. Do you mean miners
as in Tintic?
I really appreciated your comments. They were spot on, especially your statement
about the best player on the court being the smart little point guards that get
the high point man the ball! I'm not taking away from their ability to shoot and
score, but it takes a floor general to get them the ball! ie: Stockton to
Malone! To be able to make that sweet pass, nail a defender to the floor with a
cross over dribble, spin move etc. To play that full court pressure defense,
making or creating steals! To be the only one out front driving for a lay up
after busting his hump to steal the ball & just before he goes for the score he
makes a pass to his trailer instead and lets him have the points! I hope that
all these high scoring MVP's would say that without their own Stockton's they
could'nt have achieved such individual status as MVP! There truly is more to the
game than the high point man!
Rich, when are you guys going to give up? When are you going to learn that the
game isn't played on stat sheets, but the court? You can throw all your season
wins & stats out the window come state tourny time. You claim Rich should have 5
players on the all state team, be happy with the Andersen boy as MVP,
questionable, and the Calder boy on the 2nd team! Maybe if you guys could win a
championship you might get more on the all state teams or at least mentioned!
Yes you had a great season, but not a great tournament! If you were the best in
a four day tourny, you would be champs!, but your not! Just be happy with
Couldn't have been said better. If they were the best all year they would have
been the best at the end of the year also. Third place isn't so bad, except that
there are two better than you. That's how this year, Rich's seniors, will be
remembered in basketball! Don't be too sad though, you'll always be remembered
as a great 8th grade and Jr. High team!
I say congrats to Caden Anderson of rich. He is very deserving of the MVP. As a
1A coach it has been a great thing to watch him play the past four years. He is
a roll model in rich, as well as in my town were I coach. He might not know
that, but he has gave some of my younger players a vision of what they should
excell to at the least. I have watced and coached against many of the great
names listed above, but Caden is the MVP right where he should be. Congrats to
the rest of the field of players. IT was a great year to be in 1A basketball.
WA did choke with BV...With freshman 2 soph and 2 jun as a starting 5 so next
year when all those " good " seniors will be gone who do you think will be one
of the best ? Well season is over and coaches picked their picks. We all need to
get ready for the next season.
rich is still the awesomest
here we go tintic starting to talk it up again didnt you learn last time when
you got beat by ics in baseball?
If Rich has ever played for a 1a championship and when?
we didn't start that, we'll have the same chance as we've had and it will be a
rough season, and is it not for everyone, im lookin forward to next year
I'm pretty sure Rich played for championship in 1998 and then again in either
2002 or 2003.
Rich just doesnt seem to have an answer for a region twenty team they have the
team to win the title but in the end they just cant do it. Because those
southern regions are just to good
won't ever take a state championship in basketball! If this years "Emaculate
Conception Class" couldn't pull it off, the lesser talented boys of the future
have no chance!
Rich won't even be a top five school next year. This year was their chance and
they failed. Next year will be fun with the majority of the top teams outside
of region twenty and sixteen. My top five next year are...1.Monticello -
They bring back the big guy need I say more?2.Liahona - Those two guards
are special, especially if they can learn to distribute to their other two
returning starters3.Bryce Valley - Their returning the better of the two
Roundy brothers, they'll have the experience.4.Whitehorse - They're
returning a point guard that is crazy good5.Duchesne - They return
practically everyone from a pretty good team this year.Worth
mentioning...Milford, Wasatch Academy, Piute and Rich
Good top five, I'd swap Milford for Duchesne and don't sleep on Wasatch Academy.
Can someone schedule a Whitehorse v Liahona rematch! Martin and Dickson vs
Facemyer and Nichols round 2! Facemyer and Dickson are two of the funnest kids
Why is Brayden Facemyer of lihoina on the 1a Second team, he is all about
offense, he doesn't even play defense. But Brandon Nicholas Of Lihona Does
deserve it (especially because he knows what Defense is)
It's because all these all state teams are based 99.9999% on scoring! They are
totally blind to the defense and the pass, steals, leadership roles ect... They
really need to have a offensive team and defensive team!
rich is the awesomest, that is exactly why they did not play for the
championship and lost to piute. good job RE: everyone, there isn't even an
everyone to "RE:"
actually Facemyer averaged 4 steals and a block and a half a game. Nichols
averaged 2 steals. They both are dynamic offensive players but I agree they need
to work on their defense. They both deserved to be All-State, though.
Look, rich might be the awesomest but not next year when all seniors will be
gone.So rich for next year, 0 points.
So what is everyone's thoughts on Rich next year? Are they going to be any good?
Who will they even have?
Exactly.First smart person.