good job aggies of nmsu we are the real aggies
You made it!Go Cougs, Go Aggies!
Ute fan here. No question USU deserves to be in the dance. With so
few good bubble teams, why shouldn't a decent team like USU not get in. They won
the regular season in the #10 rated conference. Same goes for UTEP.UNLV is a tough choice. I agree that the MWC is really only a 3 seed
conference, but that's what happens when your 4 seed wins the tourney and the 3
seed has good, quality wins.Here's hoping all the MWC and WAC teams
do well. Even BYU.
Not much difference this year, but most years, the PAC 10 is rated much higher
than the WAC.This year will be the first time in 25 years that
Arizona won't play in the NCAA tournament.Arizona State is usually a
solid basketball team.UTEP usually has a solid team and won the
regular season C-USA title this year.BYU obviously scheduled three
teams that they expected to be very good, two of them on the road.Arizona, in case you've forgotten, was the team that throttled #5 seed Utah in
the Big Dance last season.Being willing to play good teams on the
road sends a message to the Selection Committee that you're a good basketball
program.What kind of message is Stew sending?
I agree with NIT posters. If the aggies are not in the big dance it is Stew's
PAC 10 is not rated much higher than the WAC.
I actually hope we end up in the NIT. Maybe then coach will get that he has to
schedule tougher non-conference. If he doesn't want to do that, then he needs
to move on.
Bracket Matrix - 42 different brackets#3 NMU (42)#6 BYU
(42)#9 UNLV (42)#9 SDSU (42)#10 UTEP (41)#11 USU (39)ESPN(4) New Mexico (29-4) vs (13) MONTANA (20-9)(6) BYU
(28-5)vs (11) WASHINGTON (24-9)(8) Notre Dame (23-11)vs (9) SAN DIEGO ST
(23-8)(7) Texas (24-9) vs (10) UNLV (24-8)(8) Marquette (22-11) vs
(9) UTEP (26-6)(5) Vanderbilt (23-8)vs (12) Utah St (26-7)Last three
in: Minnesota, Utah State, Illinois CBS Sports#3 UNM vs #14
Ohio#6 BYU vs #11 Florida#8 UNLV vs #9 Missouri#8 SDSU vs #9
Clemson#6 Richmond vs #11 USU#5 Butler vs #12 UTEPLast four
in: Florida, Minnesota, Utah St., UTEPThe Aggies are firmly on the
bubble.BYU, Utah and Utah State should consider playing
home-and-home every year; it would help each of them; well, at least, it would,
if/when Utah gets good again.
Everyone knows what Utah State needs to do to ensure that the Aggies aren't on
the bubble every year, that is, schedule a couple of tough OOC opponents,
preferably one or two teams from one of the big 6 conferences: ACC, SEC, Big 12,
Big Ten, Pac 10, or Big East.If Utah State can't get them to come to
Logan, then they need to play them on a neutral court, perhaps in a preseason
tournament, or at their place.The WAC is a good conference, but,
it's obviously not strong enough to guarantee a bid for the regular season
champion.Stew is calling the shots on scheduling. If the Aggies miss
the Big Dance again, the Aggies can moan and groan about being cheated, again,
but Stew is ultimately to blame.
Hoping that USU joins NMSU at the big dance!
Stayed up late to watch NMSU beat usu. Absolutely loved it.If usu
is so tough, why aren't they consistently nationally ranked? Here's hoping the
usu uglies don't even get invited to the NIT? Talk about absolutely loving
Any team that 1) wins their regular season conference title by multiple games,
pulling away, and 2) puts together a win streak of over 15 games late in the
season, and 3) wins almost 4 times as many games as they lose, and finally 4)
finishes with an RPI of under 40 while defeating some of the best teams in the
country... should be a sure lock and dead-cinch to be considered one of the 64
best teams in the country... thereby being seated in the NCAA tournament. It
would be an absolute travesty if it were to be otherwise. But then again the
NCAA governing body does still allow the BCS to continue with its shananigans,
which makes everything else they do somewhat suspicious and not altogether
Reminding people that attend a church school of what Jesus would do is trash?
Your weird.The point poster was making was that it is mostly UofU
fans who bash BYU, granted there are a very small number of USU posters who bash
the Y but truly it pales in comparison. However if you look on our board I
seldom if ever see a Ute trash USU, it is ALWAYS BYU trashing USU, why BYU fans
find it necessary to go out of their way to trash USU always confuses me,
especially when the non-church school (UofU) hardly EVER trashes on us.So again, just think "what would Jesus do?":)
Not too many years ago the Aggies of USU had a record of 26-3 and was not
invited to the big dance.It could happen again today, so don't be shocked
or surprised, just be happy if you do get in.I guess Boylen and the Utes
have "no chance" for an at large bid for a 14-17 team. Next year we'll see his
"own" team with no hold overs from previous coaches. It should be exciting.
I just got back from this evening in my time traveling DeLorean and it looks
like the tourney committee has over looked USU once again and gone was a very
weak Arizona State team because alumni will buy more tickets. Marty was upset
but what can you do?
I'm a student at NMSU, and I've watched many of the teams in the WAC(as well as
other teams in other conferences) and I have this to say. USU Aggies are a
really good team, nobody should knock them. I feel that NMSU and USU should
both go and represent the WAC, and I wish them both good luck!
Go Aggies! Go BYU!.....
I'll rip the aggies... we all know byu would have won at home or neutral
court... Stew's pride has gotten in the way of their success... he won't play a
road game vs big conf teams and thus his sos and rpi are always low... its
ridiculous for aggies to think a non-conf win over byu is enough to get them a
dance invite... The aggies lost at home to St Mary's the gm after beating byu...
don't see the aggies having a chance to win a game in the tourney... not to
mention losing to Utah doesn't help
Winning 17 straight is great- but you have to win the "big" games at the end of
the season! Stew you have to get one or two impact players if you really want to
do something in the post season. NMSU has a couple of impact players that showed
up big time when it counted.
You know, I try to cheer for the Aggies. But when you get individuals like the
3rd poster with his "NOTE TO COUGAR FANS" - and then few if any Cougar fans
post, and if they do, 95% of them are POSITIVE towards the Aggies, it makes it
clear that 1) some USU fans have a huge inferiority complex when it comes to
BYU, or 2) some USU fans are starving for attention, or 3) some USU fans are
simply delusional when it comes to BYU caring (either positively or negatively)
about USU, or 4) a combination of all. Bottom line is that most BYU
(and Utah fans for that matter) are concerned with the MWC (and quite frankly
with hating each other) and simply don't care about USU. I'm not sure that most
BYU or Utah fans even read USU articles - because they are not relevant to our
situation.USU fans have a great basketball program with Stu, your
fan base, and the amount your win. Be happy with what you've got and stop
trying to make it a USU vs. BYU thing, because it isn't.Good luck in
So where are all the BYU fans ripping the Aggies? As a lifelong Aggie and
supporter of other teams in the state as well, it seems to me that Aggie fans
need to grow up and stop worrying about what others think. It is clear that
most BYU fans are positive towards USU and Utah fans simply don't care - at
least based on the posts here.Now go win in the bid dance, both USU
BYU & USU boh lose a starter with a broken facial bone... Might end up helping
the WAC & MWC get extra tourney nods. Just need to show they deserved them.
As a BYU Fan, I really do like the Aggies. Just have not appreciated a lot of
their comments on our boards and their chest thumping. Yes, you did beat us on
your home floor, but lost to Utah on their floor....and well we all know how
good the utes are. We happened to have beat them twice. Maybe this will wake
you guys up ....you are capable of losing. I do hope that the Aggies get in and
have a great run. Would love to see a match up of The Cougs and Ags 0n a
Nice!! RE:Play the Game | 1:08 a.m. March 14, 2010 Might
want to back away from the computer. USU and BYU have almost identical SOS .5334
for USU and .5252. Who knew ASU and AZ and the PAC 10 would be down. Stew
scheduled 'light' on purpose, like he always does. I have always
considered Aggie fans very knowledgeable in basketball, even more so than BYU
fans. I may have to rethink that one after your ignorant comment. The selection committee looks at key wins and loses. BYU has lost in the Pit,
twice at T&M center. That leaves either a 2 pt loss at home to Top 10 UNM w
Jimmer sick and not playing in the second half and the loss in Logan. It is
ironic that BYUs worst loss was to the Aggies. So ripping BYUs schedule rips
YOU!!!!With close to identical SOS, look at the bad losses USU has,
LBS, Utah and then look at their wins. WHO DID THEY BEAT besides BYU.
You asked about UNLV. Looking at CBS Sportsline, they have 58 locks (including
auto bids) and that leaves 7 at large bids. I follow the projections and the
selection process very closely every year. UNLV has 5 wins over Top 50, USU has
2. USU also has 16 wins outside the Top 100, 10 outside 200 and 4 of them are
outside 300. They also look at bad loses and Long Beach State is pretty bad.In previous years I would have said it was NIT time for both USU and
UNLV. Look at what happened to SDSU last year, lost in the MWC tourney title
game and got snubbed. This year there was just not that many good 'obviously in'
bubble teams. I think UNLV and USU are going to get in, contrary to
I echo all the comments on both BYU and Utah St. having some good basketball
seasons. You can't win all the games, especially the significant ones, but gotta
appreciate the good highlights and games to come out of good seasons.
I think USU still gets in but now they are looking at a 12-14 seed. I think had
they won this game they would have gotten a single digit seed. As is it looks
like they will be put up against a tough team in the first round. I was hopping
that this team could find a way to win at least one in the Big Dance but this
loss just made it harder.
Know what folks, comments like this are very childish. I would hope that USU
fans would not venture in the trash talk world of Utah and BYU fans. To the author of this trash. There is at least one hater in Logan. Please
leave this stuff out."NOTE TO COUGAR FANS, go read your message
board and see how many haters are from Logan? Salt Lake? Now ask yourselves what
would Jesus do:)"
Ridiculous to even dream about that! In my opinion 3 would be too many. They
should get 2 teams in, flat out, and so should the WAC. End of story!
A couple of suggestions for next year. Why not have home and away games with
Utah and BYU. That would eliminate the "can only win in Logan" talk against the
Aggies. That would also help the strength of schedule. Toss in Weber and the
State would have a real fun December season every year. I understand it won't
happen but it would be fun.USU is stuck in a very weak basketball
conference. Other than the Aggies, there is not much there, especially this
year. Unfortunately, that means wins but no "tournament needing wins".I would have loved to have seen the Aggies in the MWC this year. They could
have shown their stuff in SLC, Provo, Las Vegas, San Diego, etc.
That was a tough loss. Not only do we have to wait and see now, but if we do get
in, that loss hurt our seeding. It will be interesting to see what happens.I am an Aggie fan and I will be cheering for Aggies first, BYU 2nd,
other WAC and MWC third and then any West team 4th.Reading some of
these comments, it does seem we (Aggie fans) have an inferiority complex. This
game, again, had nothing to do with BYU. They are, once again, mentioned in the
first few comments and then mentioned frequently after that.
Interesting to see the assumptions about BYU fans, etc.Obviously,
there are BYU fans that are jerks, and BYU fans that are great. Same for Utah,
same for USU, same for everyone. On the whole, true sports enthusiasts aren't
that petty.We would do ourselves some good to just ignore the jerks
and move on. Best of luck to the Cougars and the Aggies this week!
Let's hope history doesn't repeat or it's NIT. Aggies deserve an invite to the
big dance but they aren't always kind to western teams! Hope you are in!
It's interesting to see your comments. USU beat BYU, who you undoubtedly cheer
for. USU plays great basketball, and will battle anyone they play, just like
Marquette last year. What a game? Who did you lose to again, oh that's right,
Texas A&M, powerhouse. Go Aggies. Stew and his cupcake schedule? Check the RPI
genius. And by the way, tell Jimmer to stop falling down, it's embarassing.
Just work on beating someone in the first round. Weber State has a more recent
1st round win than the Cougs.
First time poster on USU blog. I have never felt a rivalry with USU but I must
admit that I am happy to see the Aggies lose after reading BYU articles for the
last few weeks and reading how good the Aggies are - in the Wac. Congrats on what would be a 5th or 6th place finish in MWC. Good luck in the
tourney - whichever one you get into.For those who think the Aggies
are a lock because they beat BYU, don't forget losing to Utah. I guess that
makes you a lock - as in locked out of the CBI.
Would it be unfair if usu doesn't get in to the big dance? Yes.But I just don't
see it happening. I'm just hoping for a good nit run. If they do by
chace get in the highest seed they can hope for is a 12. But I bet it'd be even
to "Before BYU fans load up our"I understand. What do I think?
Eastern Bias - yes. My feeling about BYU possilbe #8 seed again. I see alot of
cougar fans saying we deserve #4 or 5 - Not. For Aggies, YES they deserve
to be no matter what. But, look what happen 2004, you were rank in the top 25
and didn't get in was upsetting to me. Well it might happen again this time
which I hope not.I have a bad feeling BYU will be stuck with TexasA&M
again either 1st or 2nd Round. There will be a lot of disapointment once the
field announce. Two or Three PAC10 get in and too many BigEast get in.Good
AS a BYU fan, I have so much respect for USU. It is not like the clowns program
in SLC. USU is first rate. They better get in. I think they will. They have a
good body of work. They may have to go back East to play,but I would think they
Congrats to BYU and USU on a great year. I hope that we both get in.
Especially USU :) Go Aggies!
Really surprising and refreshng to see a team from Utah lose with class (and
without Hershey squirts). Aggies (both) played really good, I can see how USU
beat BYU, they look like a better team.So will three sets of Aggies
(including A&M) be a record in the tourney.
RE: Aggie fansActually I think most cougar fans are really pulling
for you guys. Aggies are my second favortie team and I think they are definetly
capable of doing some damage in the tournament. I agree with 12:39 if you dont
get in it is robbery.I think you should get in ahead of Utep and
UNLV. I know UNLV beat New mexixo at the pit and BYU twice but they have an rpi
of 49? And they are a lock? RE: NITmy high school GPA was 1.6
but I now have a MS from BYU.
We did play the game, in fact we played a stronger schedule than you Cougar fan.
Check the SOS and then close your mouth, thanks for coming.It does
help to check your facts before you open the mouth. Unless of course you
consider your team a bunch of cupcakes.
teams, granted this board seems to be pretty fair. I just always find it odd the
number of BYU fans who get on here to comment good or bad compared to Utah fans.
Utes typically don't bash us, BYU does, WHY? don't know. When I read BYU boards
it is 90% Utes bashing Cougars so I must admit always a little confused about
the dig there. I went to USU and honestly didn't even apply to BYU, not sure if
I could get in or not, don't really care. I like BYU, I like Utah unless we are
playing either school, pretty simple.Here's to hoping BYU and USU
get in a get fair seeds.
They beat the team that is currently ranked 15th in the country (my Cougars).
That means they beat a ranked team. USU is good. If they are snubbed in favor of
a team from a "bigger" conference then it will show the NCAA selection committee
is as bad as the BCS. And that is saying a lot.
Oh yeah, almost forgot. It will be nothing short of robbery if USU doesn't go to
the NCAA tournament. They are quite evenly matched with BYU and BYU is a lock,
so USU should be too. (Oh yeah, sorry to shatter all your
stereotypes of us BYU people. Guess what, most are not arrogant like you and
many others seem to think. Good job with making judgments on a whole group based
on a few people.)
Stew's game management was horrible. I only watched the last 10 minutes of the
game, but how do you run out of time outs with 1:10 still to go in the game?
That is horrible. Very uncharacteristic of a good coach.
I don't think we hate byu because we "could not get into the y" it is because of
arrogant comments like that.
Not only do you have to play the games on schedule, but you also have to play
the games from the selection commitee. Look, how many years does USU go >25
wins in a season? Most of them. How do you get into the big dance if your
conference is weaker than most? YOU HAVE TO PLAY SOMEONE WHO IS RANKED AND WIN!
Dont tell me Stew does not know this or that he has tried to schedule these
teams. There are so many games/preseason tournaments that it can be done. Stew
plays it safe and hopes that beating up on his cup cake league will get the nod.
IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY. Play some teams with some credibility and your chances
are almost a lock. Until then, a big East team with a 20-11 record will always
get the nod over USU and their watered down wins. Just stating the facts.
I love the NIT talk, I think it is kind of funny because it will be a tough
night in Logan not knowing for sure. The Aggies could get ripped
again, but I seriously doubt it. I know ya'all hate BYU fans, most because they
could not get into the Y. This is one BYU fan who is pulling for USU to not only
get in, but to win a couple of games. A lot of the comments are pretty brutal,
but some are just people clowing around to get under each other's skin.Good luck the NMSU, USU, BYU, UNLV, SDSU and UNM.
Lunardi's Bracket now has 2 (two) teams from the WAC!Congrats to the
MW conference (4) teams!Congrats to the WAC conference (2) teams!Let the games begin.BYU gets Wake Forest, the team that
stopped the infamous 52 game home streak in January of 09. Cougs one and done
2 of the first 3 comments are 'little brother' comments about BYU. Long before
any BYU fan got on here. Can you say inferiority complex. Good luck in the NIT,
maybe beef Stew will get his first NIT win and 2nd post season win in 24 yrs as
a head coach. At least you can coordinate your cheers one more time
if you get a home NIT game.
Every sports site has Utah State in as a lock. They won 17 of their last 18
(very hot) 10 top 100 wins and a win over BYU! If they somehow don't make it,
the selection committee will need to be fired as biased BCS lackeys!
Hope you get in, but the RPI is huge, which is in your favor. The other huge
thing is wins vs. Top 50. Now refresh us on how many wins over Top 50 do you
have? The 4 power teams in the MWC were all better than USU, which is why they
will all get in and the Aggies will be in the NIT. The MWC dominated the WAC
head to head, and the Aggies lost to the Utes.
I'm a cougar fan but I'd love to see Utah State get into the dance. But it's
silly to read the comments from Aggie posters trying to convince us (or
themselves) that the Aggies will be selected because of such and such reason. It
doesn't matter what you want or what you think -- you don't make the decisions.
Just be pleasantly surprised if they are selected and don't be shocked if they
I sure hope Utah State gets into the big dance and not just the NIT. Utah State
has a great program and a wonderful school - I love the Logan area and the
sports fans there are great. Go well Utah State!!
Mountain West - 7th best conference in the country according to Sagarin.WAC - 10th best conference in the country according to Sagarin.Mtn gets 4 teams.WAC only gets one? This just doesn't
cut it.My opinion here folks- the top 10 conferences deserve at least 2
teams. Why? Obviously the competition is good if not great and
with 32 conferences and over 300 D1 teams the top ten conferences should be
represented by at least 2 teams. New Mexico State and Utah State should be
dancing.Again, my opinion.
NIT! NIT! NIT!
I hope you guys get in. You had a great year and deserve it. Would be
sad for the committee to ignore you again. Get in and do some damage.
Hello Cougar FAN:)
no doubt about it and now is not a time for excuses, get some rest, find out who
we play in the NCAA's tomorrow and boom there you go, we're still dancing
baby!!!This year's team can certainly win a first round game but
tonight's loss will dip us back to a 12 seed, it would have been nice to be a 10
or 11.It is interesting to note our SOS is actually not as low as
several teams considered in above us, BYU is one. And we beat them by 10 as
well, I like our chances, even still.
Not even worried-where is Ernest T Bass when we need him:)
Tough game to watch. No excuses, NMSU wanted it more and got the W. I just
hope the Aggies aren't hosed like they were a couple years ago when they were
ranked in the top 25 and had a 25-3 record and got jobed out of the tourney. I
hope the Ags and Cougs get in and make some noise in the tourney
a LOWER SOS than USU, apparently the going isn't tougher in the MWC, or their
SOS would be higher. There are many scenarios but all seem to include the
Aggies, were in.
Thanks, Jared, for keeping us informed about what is going on with the Aggies.
You do a great job. Win are lose, we will always be Aggie Fans. Now if the
selection committee will just be fair we will still be in the NCAA tourney.
This team has done themselves and the school proud. Go Ags!!!
New Mexico State!!!! Go NMSU AGGIES!!!
Aggies looked tired. I will say this, NMSU was certainly the more athletic
aggressive team tonight. USU could get snubbed, we shall see.
This was a very tough fought game. New Mexico State has some real athletes.
They are fast and they are physical and sometimes the shoot very well too.
Tonight, the Utah Aggie were outplayed, though they played hard and have nothing
to hang their head for. Quayle was phenomenal, but we have to expect something
from everyone on the floor. Tonight a couple of our guys just didn't show up.
Hopefully, we still get a NCAA tournament birth and that the seeding is fair.
On most days the Aggies can compete with anyone. New Mexico State can compete
with anybody some of the time. Good luck to both of these Aggie teams.
We very well could be snubbed, we do have a higher RPI and SOS than UTEP and the
WAC is rated higher in RPI than C-USA but we have seen this movie before.No excuses we lost to a team that simply beat us with great shots and
defense that seemed to have us on our heels. They were aggressor and we were
not.Win in the tourney (if we get in) and it will all be forgotten.
You never know with the Big east teams. I think we have a good chance to get in
still. Now we just wait and see.
message board let me steal one from something a BYU fan said following their
loss, it can all be forgotten if we can get a first round win. We are a lock to
get in and actually if you compare SOS with Gonzaga, BYU, Nothern Iowa and UTEP,
the Aggies have all of those schools beat, with an RPI in the high 20's we are
in, it can all be forgotten if we can win one in the tourney.NOTE TO
COUGAR FANS, go read your message board and see how many haters are from Logan?
Salt Lake? Now ask yourselves what would Jesus do:)
A tough loss tonight! I hate losing to that program; it reminds me of losing to
Tark’s “student athletes” in the PCAA days.
Stew Morrill and USU are the class of the state. I hope the selection committee
makes the right choice and puts them in. They always play hard and Stew is as
good as there is. They run great stuff and play basketball like they should.
The boys in Utah county should learn something from the Ag's and play a little
team ball and maybe they could win a 1st round game. Go Aggies!