Hush money may have violated election laws
What i have to say will fall on def ears i am sure, after reading through these
comments. Both sides of this Garn paid her off, pill popper, her fault,
ya-da-ya-da.. Must be a slow news day for the two papers that make rounds
through SLC. This had nothing to do with Kevin Garn! So please lets not
speculate and rehash what was, in my opinion your thoughts are all valid and
appreciate those who sincerely pay respects Cheryl. The Garn incident is so much
more then what was and being reported, we have put that behind us and hope those
who would throw bricks would hold them for another victim you feel is worthy to
condemn. She was murdered, out of her control, her choice to live was
taken from her and we truly pray for her and the family of the boy who was most
likely dealt with life or life dealt with him... Once again, this is not a Garn
story but reality of Sundays tragedy of two people, one being my big sister...
Hey did you hear about Bill Clinton and some girl named Monica Lewinski? Wow! we
need to investigate some more into that whole thing! I really believe that there
was more to the story and what about the job that she was offered up in NYC from
a friend of the Clinton's? Really, we need be to rehash all that again if we are
going to keep this thing in the forefront of the news. Please
people, let this alone! Get on with your life!
Kevin is a good man. He made some mistakes, but who hasn’t? Can you blame
him for not wanting to be publicly humiliated by this extortionist-drug addict?
Hang in there Kevin. There are a lot of people out here that appreciate you and
what you have done for our community.
I am literally sick to my stomach reading these comments that blame the victim.
I don't care what she has done after the incident(s)-she is not a legislator or
steward of the public trust. She does not work for me. He does. I don't want to
see him strung up in public, but sheesh, are we really going to stoop to
There's no winners in this case. I guess we're just trying to figure out how
slimmy all the players are.
If she was a church member, who knows if she even went to church. It sure
sounds like she needed Christian care. She may not have asked for any help,
though, or reported anything.
Garn paid C. Maher a $150,000 to keep her mouth shut. Garn is GUILTY to the
hilt. people do not do this kind of stuff unless there are some major issues and
secrets to be kept..... GARN IS GUILTIER THAN SIN! And sin it was.
Where does a dude get $150,000 to buy someone else off and why is a seat in the
Utah State Senate worth that much to someone? What did he get in return for his
so called "Public Service"?The only reason why these politicians get
into office it seems is to enrich themselves or have power over others. You give
these creeps an inch and they'll take a mile.And who is slimy enough
to take $150,000 in "hush" money? Maher, how can you be so easily bought?
You bring up a good point; where was the church in all this. If she was a church
member why wasn't the church there for her when she needed Christian care and
I am disgusted in a couple of different ways by all of this. This type of
behavior should be condemned and is not acceptable by anyone, let alone an
elected official.Also, those who want to generalize and lump all
politicians and all Mormons as evil in this way are going way too far. Saying
that no one should be trusted or all are bad is ridiculous. Also, so is
assuming that church leaders tried to cover it up when we don't even know if he
reported it to church officials.
I can't believe the lack of honesty in the leaders we elect. Disappointing.
It is AMAZING to me how many people are falling for Garn's anemic excuses.You REALLY want us to believe this was just some accident Garn? I am
not some fool, I know what a man wants when he gets into a hot tub naked with a
female. This was a child, A CHILD.Garn is the perpetrator, not the
victim, he is also a BRIBER and his LIES OF OMISSION will be judged
accordingly.God is not so gullible Mr. Garn, you will not receive
thunderous applause in the courts of Heaven.
There is nothing better than this picture to illustrate the corruption and
hubris in Utah politics and religion!Garn was part of a trend. Since
the mid-1980's, there have been over 20 criminal prosecutions of Mormon
defendants for sex with children.But that is nothing. Think of all
the incidents, like Garns', that went unreported and were covered up by
ecclesiastical leaders working together in closed-door Bishops' and Stake
Presidents' offices in order to protect the reputations of leaders who were
supposed to have been "called of God by prophecy and by the laying on of hands
by those in authority!"
The first contact was CHILD ABUSE!All other events are extensions of
his first acts toward this woman.If she did not receive HELP in
regard to the abuse, the path and mistakes of her life are on GARN's shoulders.
She may not be innocent of any transgressions, but GARN is guilty of
the SINS. There is a difference.Our son was molested by our scout
leader (admittedly), and the CHURCH has ignored the damage and the pain to our
son. Several of his actions AFTER the molestation are being weighed on our
son's shoulders. I can't wait for the JUSTICE of the Lord when he
JUDGES our pain and losses. Mercy will be extended to the VICTIMS of abuse.
Judgement will come to the abusers.Garn, his wife and
son--if they covered up the issues, should all be ashamed...and they all chose
CAREER, POSITION, MONEY and FAME over right. Shame on your whole
family! I Hope this woman gets help and can begin a good life. It is never too
late for help.
This attitude of blame the victim is really sickening. Every time I read
another one of the comments blaming the woman, a little of my love for life in
Utah dies. This man took advantage of a 15 year old girl. He had been her
Sunday School teacher. He was her boss. I am sick to my stomach reading these
comments. How many of you who are so forgiving have been doing the same thing?
Is that why you are so ready to forgive him? I am just angry about those things
he admitted. The things he lied about and continues to lie about are a totally
different thing. Any psychologist worth anything will tell you that what he did
all those years ago helped to make her the woman she is today. And yet you
blame the victim. You are one SICK society.
I wonder if you can sue over breach of contract? If he paid her to hush, and she
talked, can't he sue?
Garn:1) exposed himself to a minor, who was also his employee2)
illegally paid $150,000 in extortion money and failed to inform FEC3)
Arranged for a cover-up by both Des News and SL Trib4) Denounced gays at
every opportunity.Only #4 matters in Utah.
It seems a little odd that a grown man would get into a hot tub naked with a 15
year old girl and there was no physical contact. Then why even get into a hot
tub? Why not just go to Golden Corral for a nice steak?
a lot of 15 year old girls are mature and know what they want, thats a fact all
300 commenters need to know, and a lot of 29 year old boys know what they want!
thats life !
Okay. I agree. The guy was 100% wrong. But I don't think Cheryl was tied down
and forced. How about some personal accountability? Then she extorts money and
STILL blabs to everyone? She and her family are "traumatized"? Give me a break!
Here's your 15 minutes of fame. If anyone is doing any traumatizing it is Cheryl
with her big mouth. And I agree . . . pay the taxes on the $150,000. What a grab
Sorry sweetheart...but you dont get any sympathy from me. THIS incidident is NOT
what screwed up your life. YOU did. Get over it. Now, I am not excusing his
behvior in any way--but he is not the root of your problems. You might want to
look around and see what kind of real problems others have...such as no job,
food, money, poor health etc, and then see what you can do to make a positive
difference in their lives. You have screwed up yours going public with this
information again. You already got $150,000. GET OVER IT!!! You look beyond
Give me a break! The applause was for his service! He hadn't resigned! He gave a
stirring speech! He starts like it's a confession and then totally makes it
about himself, the victim of extortion and a invokes his years of public
service! It was an act! Was everyone there so naive?
Justice is long, long overdue. The LDS church should finally excommunicate Garn
for this and other possible acts of adultery. NO DOUBLE STANDARD. None of this
"we take this very seriously" BS from Church authorities and then no action,
even promotion to Bishop. Why is it that these priesthood holding men always get
away with sexual dalliance and are forgiven, (or even applauded!) and the women
are dissed and held to account.
1. It is absolutely normal and human nature to NOT want your sins and mistakes
made public. It is not an indication of a lack of repentance or humility to want
to make ammends privately. Often going public or even confessing to a Bishop
leading to a court will only cause pain to other innocent people like your
family members. I actually see the act of going public or even confessing to a
Bishop as a very SELFISH act when it inevitably hurts others. Garn owed every
responsibility to help this woman and his family heal. But going public did not
have to be a part of that process and trying to avoid publicity is both natural
and avoids further hurt to others.2. HOWEVER, he certainly DID NOT
have to run for office. That is where he was selfish. Making ammends privately
is NOT selfish. It was likely the wisest thing for those innocently involved.
Insisting on running for office after all of this however WAS selfish.3. It truly shocks me how intelligent Americans can in good consciounce belong
to ANY political party at this point. I am proud to be an INDEPENDENT who
what Garn did was wrong. Absolutely. I am not here to judge he or Ms. Maher on
whether or not they've "repented" for their past mistakes. But I want to make
it clear that the other legislators were not in any way applauding Garn for what
he did or for his confession. They were applauding his years of solid service
to the state which, regardless of his past doings, are still valid and
appreciated. Most of his colleagues were probably aware this was the last time
he would ever stand on the House floor in the role of legislator and were thus
expressing their appreciation in that forum. Was the timing poor? A matter of
opinion. But I don't think the true (not the perceived) sentiment was.
I can't believe some of you are pointing out this woman's short comings....blame
the victim. She was a young girl that was abused by her adult employer. Check
out the facts, this abuse has profoundly impacted her life for the worse. Abuse
victims usually have substance abuse problems, sexual problemsm, and
relationship problems for their entire life. Whatever Garn has achieved during
his life is erased by this abuse.
What Garn did is wrong no matter which way you look at it. Paying her off was
even worse. He should have taken the fall when she first came to him for the
$150,000. I'm sure this is devastating to his family, even more so now that he
is such a public figure. I do believe in forgiveness, but years of secrecy has
added more and more lies that will take many years to be forgiven of.The fact the Maher blaming her broken life on Garn is irresponsible. Being a
victim doesn't take away your agency. She made her own choices. If she really
needed healing and wanted to do the right thing she should have refused the
$150,000 and come forth then.Sad, sad story.
lesson learned, wait til there 18, save 150 grand and your career !
For those of you who love to blame the victim, GARN has admitted he gave her
alcohol and went into a hot tub with a minor while both of them were naked. What
the heck do some of you need to recognize immorality? He was in the wrong and He
came up with the bribe. Not her. The Mormons condoning this behavior or blaming
her are pathetic.
She is the victim. And yes, sexual contact with an older employer while she was
a minor is hurtful and immoral and illegal. And she did not extort money, he
bribed her to shut up. In her efforts to recovder from sexual abuse, she is
coming forward with the truth. She is not ruining his life, he did
that all by himself, well, with the help of his wife and his church that is.
I also want to know what the Deseret News was covering up this story? Would they have done the same service for a democrat?dont' think
Don't run for office if you have skeletons in your closet. Duh. Secrets don't
stay secret when you're in the public eye.
Sooner or later the addict needs to give up his or her story and take
responsibiity for their own lives and decisions. At the age of 40, I doubt
this was closure for her. So what could be the motive for opening this up to
the media 25 years later---AFTER accepting money from him to keep quiet. I
doubt it was "closure" or any attempt to heal her past. God knows the truth.
About each of them and their respective motives. I guess that's all that
Garn broke laws. It is that simple. No 15 yr. old, even when they grow up can
say, "It's okay. Your $$$ makes it better." He knew he was in TONS of trouble or
he wouldn't have flown to NH to meet with her and then give her $$$. It isn't up
to her to move on or to him to pay more $$$. It is up to the prosecutors. He has
admitted to acts that would constitute crimes with his words, his rushing to
hush things up in 2002, and especially his payoff. No amount of money should be
able to buy silence.His good does NOT erase broken laws. As with any
of us, our "good" should be simply "good." Good done to better humanity. Good
done because it is... good.
First, it makes me ill that members of the legislature gave him a standing
ovation for his "honesty." Second, the girl was 15 at the time and no way was
she mature enough to understand the ramifications. Sometimes MEN forget that a
girl make look like a woman but emotionally she is still a girl. How would you
men, and women, who think she encouraged him would like their 15 year old
daughter naked in a hot tub with a man almost twice her age. Disgusting.Third, rumors about him and other women have circulated for years but Garn has
had too many people in his pocket. He needed to resign.
The brain doesn't fully develop until 25 years old. There are reasons we have
laws to protect minors. Teenagers are minors. Garn should be prosecuted and
sent to prison.
Did you know right from wrong at 15 years old? Of course - and this pittiful
woman did also. Now she needs excuses for all the stupid decisions she has made
in her life. Further more she was hoping to extort more money. The
senator was foolish to have become involved with a kid, but all of the
accusations and defenses were carried out by mature adults. I can't defend the
senator's actions 25 years ago, but what's he been doing since? I do have harsh
admonition for the woman who can not forgive him and especially herself. Is not
forgivness the premise of every faith excluding Islam?
Just search "republican offenders"
I can't adequately express how deplorable this situation is. Garn should be in
the depths of shame. Oddly though, I find it ironic that in photos he looks
like a broken man and she smiles like she's on the cover of a magazine.
Hey Mr. holier than thou. You must be one perfect son of a gun to through you're
stones. Talk about hipocracy.
We all make mistakes, Kevin made one twenty five years ago. I know this man, and
I know why he gave Cheryl the money. Some people may not understand this, but I
know it to be true. He made the payment to help her to get on with her life. How
much therapy can you get with $150,000? I have a grandson that is fifteen. In
one year, he has lost his mother, his dad remarried, his stepmom did not want
him, and he had to move out of his home to live with grandparents. This fifteen
year old is much better off than Cheryl. She gets paid that amount of money to
help her, and now wants revenge and more money. How can a person be so obsessed
with ruining a person’s life? If she would have used the money as it was
intended, she would not be in this mental predicament. How many of us tell our
spouses, family member, and church leaders of our transgressions? Then Kevin
goes to this person’s home with his wife, meets with Cheryl and her
husband to try to make amends. Look at the good Kevin has done.
Blackmail is not a recommendation for healing wounds of inappropriate sexual
addvances. It seems to me that if Cheryl was really looking for sexual healing
she would have reported a crime instead of compounding her "devastation" with a
criminal act on her own.
can we all leave our egos aside for a moment-- men included-- Utahians have the
highest egos in the world== who me?they say how about honesty, telling the
truth, doing what is right from the beginning - not years later - plain and
Any and all the comments that point the finger at Cheryl don't make sense to me.
Laws, those made by legislators, protect minors. He knew this. I don't know if
it was extortion. That is up to the courts. It could have been a contract. He
didn't speak up for the sake of ethics. He spoke up to not have to pay out any
The FEC is worthless organization comprised of 3 Democrats and 3 Republicans.
They only investigate the politically expendable and Garn is now in that club.
Good luck Garn. See now how that party loyalty thingy works out for you. The
only parting gift you will get is that standing ovation. Standing ovations won't
keep you out of prison.How can anybody in good conscience have a
temple recommend and affiliate with either party?
Everything he did was wrong I mean everything BUT it was 25 years ago. Right or
Left he is human. I did not read it but what made her come out witht he news?
Why now? Why not 5, 10 2 years ago?
KeelYou should try your hand at diplomacy. The State Department is
looking for people just like you who can make make wide uneducated assertions
about all the people in Utah and the Muslim world. Curios what you can tell us
all about North Korea? You should write a book with all your experience with go
ahead and say it "Mormons" and Muslims. Nobody should be impressed
with either of these aforementioned individuals actions. Garn's actions from 25
years ago are inexcusable and Mahers present extortions are equally deplorable.
If she wanted to set the record straight, she would not have accepted money in
2002.May God (or Allah) help them and forgive them both.
another ethic reforming politician caught with the package in his hand. GOP &
DEM'S ALL THE SAME.Sad times for AMERICA
As a former Sunday School teacher, I do see where Garn may have felt it was
important to secure his standing in the Mormon community.
Wow, and ovation. Stay classy Utah.
In your wildest and most bigoted dreams. She will survive all the hypocrites and
liars. Garn was a man she was a child. Big difference. However, You are right
though, because Utah, has little narrow-minded people smirking around in every
I find several things amazing about this story:1) That she would
bring it to light in a public setting. I applaud her for being brave enough to
do that.2) That the legislature would applaud him when it's obvious
he is still lying. Like someone else said: Who gets into a hot tub naked and
doesn't have sex?3) That so many comments are attacking her. This
article is about whether a prominent elected official was a sex abuser and is
being truthful about it. She didn't need to tell me that he was lying--the
chances of him going into a hot tub naked after drinking alcohol and not having
sex are about 1 in 50 trillion.
Garn owns two Spas. one in layton, not for from his office and one in midvale.
Make you wonder what was going on there after hours.
I wasn't there so I don't know the mood of the situation but applause does seem
highly inappropriate. And she may seem like an opportunist and a
vindictive person now, but remember she was only 15. At that age it's all so
new, so unexplored - a very impressionable age and he took advantage of that for
his own gratification. The fact that they did not have sex may be just a matter
of degrees. He is now in much pain and I hope he comes out the other side of
this a better man - but her life is the tragedy.
Were all of you who are so willing to forgive Garn equally willing to forgive
I think she just wanted attention. Look at her picture. She made a mistake
though because now that she's in the media and people are going to be pretty
critical of her and I'm sure that's not going to help with all her drug and
alcohol addictions. She'll just get more depressed and more messed up.
I don't understand what the legislature was applauding? Garn's
confession? That seems inappropriate. Clark's defense of Garn's
character? Yes, people can change, but having not made amends for something like
this speaks more to character than serving in the legislature. The applause
seems inappropriate.Were they just relieved that he stepped down so
they don't have to investigate?Really, it seems like a very strange,
embarrassing, inappropriate reaction.
At the time she was a 4th grader, there would have been Sunday School for kids
her age. That's not how it is now, but it was then.
Keep your chin up and ignore the holier than tho conservative hypocrites
This woman is just begging for attention. Her picture looks like the pictures
teenage girls put on their facebooks. And she's 40. She needs to get the help
she needs and stop whining. $150,000 was supposed to help and she mad a deal to
drop the issue. I don't think he should get away with it but he's asked for
forgivness from his family so it seems he's confronted the problem. If we
continue to give her this attention she'll want more and end up on all those
reality TV shows. Some people are so pathetic.
As to the matter with Roman Polanski, he was caught and convicted. But then he
ran when he saw he was going to have serious jail time.
Felony,Even if they removed the statute of limitations, that can't
be applied retroactively because of the Constitution's ex-post facto clause.
They would have to go according to the laws on the books at the time it
Garn went to talk to his bishop many years after going to hot tub naked just
when he wanted to run for Congress. Sorry but I don't believe on his repentance.
Garn was more interested in Congress than forgiveness. Garn did not
admitted to the incident either. He was forced to admit after situation came
out. All who are applauding him are HYPOCRITES like him.I am a latin LDS.
We are tired we are fed up with your hypocrisy, racism and other American
mormons of Utah. We are fed up with your republicanicracy. Then you pretend to
teach us how to live sending, as missionaries, your sons and daughters to our
countries and many time forced them because you will be ashamed if they don't
go. Come on, they have a lot of work in Utah.
I can count on a lot of stupid comments when I come to these news articles. We
don't know the whole story yet. I will reserve judgment until I know all of the
Actually, Garn committed theft by extortion under U.C.A. 76-8-509
The comments under this article are really disturbing. Does your religion teach
you minor victims are to blame for adult actions? Especially if they're female?
That doesn't sound very Christian to me.
The LDS Church doesn't have sunday school for 4th graders or 10 year olds. They
don't go to Sunday school for a couple of years after that.
You are a typical person from this part of the country. Bribes are bribes and
tampering with evidence is never good.
Okay, so she should be in just as much trouble for taking the hush money, as he
Right thing to do, Mr. Garn. Now, I would like to know if you faced church
discipline at any point, or will now. As an active member of the LDS church, I
am grateful you can now face the consequences of your actions. When we choose
such behavior, we can't ignore having to face the consequences, which includes
hurting those we truly love. I am sorry for you and your family, but I am also
sorry you chose to run for public office, and paying blackmail to keep your past
hidden. At least David Letterman came out publicly when blackmailed. This is a
sorry tale that I hope teaches a lesson to public office holders and others
serving in positions of trust. Forgiveness should not include a standing
ovation, from associates, intimating public approval. Offering condolances is
appropriate, but not applause. Trust will have to be earned again, Mr. Garn,
especially since you served on the ethics committee, and refused to accept
standards that so many of us expect, such as contained in the Ethics Initiative
now seeking signatures.
The is blackmail, pure and simple. Both knew what they were up to, pure and
simple. At least in WY, we use sheep!
On the topic of extortion, we can learn a lesson from David Letterman's recent
scandal. By facing the allegations head-on and truthfully, the accused party
can difuse the situation and willingly face any legal or social consequences.
Instead, if the accused party pays "hush money" to the accuser, then the accuser
will never be satisfied, and will always feel that the accused owes them
something. Mr. Garn should have willingly faced the consequences to his actions
in 2002 when Maher was attempting to extort money from him because of his
actions. After all, $150,000 only lasts for so long, but the truth will last
If her charges are true, there are more victims out there. This story is not
over, folks.And I will NEVER vote for any legislator who applauded
Leave GARN alone!
I believe in repentance and forgiveness, but we also must be careful. To forgive
does not mean to just trust someone who has done something to limit his or her
trust. Although I believe he can repent, that doesn't mean he should not be
punished by the law. Nor does it mean he should be allowed to keep his seat in
the house. Also, this is an example of why I now no longer call
myself a "Republican". I now call myself a "conservative" instead. Although a
few republicans are true conservative, there is a HUGE difference between the
two terms now.
I sure hope she gives back the money. Obviously she couldn't keep her part of
the deal.. What does this say about her. At least show some integrity and giv e
back the mkoney.
Mr. Garn,Please just resign and spare our fine state the embarrassment.
How much of the hush money came from campaign contributions? Of course in Utah
you can use campaign money for anything - even hot tub encounters.
As far as the people who always want to blame the young girl instead of the man
who should have the maturity to know better in stories like these; perhaps they
have a few skeletons in their closets.
Don't you wish there were cell phones a quarter of a century ago and used the
way modern teens do? Then there would be no question about who is being totally
Re: Anonymous | 8:49 p.m. March 12, 2010I believe Garn has spammed this
web site saying lets just forgive him and forget it. I refuse to believe so many
D News readers believe that he is fit to remain in office.From past
news stories, anytime a man from Utah is accused of having inappropriate
relations with a minor, there is always the chorus of "We shouldn't judge.",
"It's the girl's fault.", etc. But anyone who is not male and from
Utah who is accused of the same thing gets harsh judgment.
Mr. Garn should resign immediately. To be forgiven of one's wrongs and by God
and by others does not include taking away basic consequences. The good and
honorable acts committed in his life do not take away from the monumental harm
and destruction done by this selfish and wicked act. When you have
a sexual relationship (naked = sexual) with a minor it is illegal. In my
opinion people who break the law, and IN PARTICULAR those who commit sexual
offenses against minors, should never be in public office, whether the offense
occurred yesterday or 50 years ago. While we should forgive Mr. Garn, that
does not mean his choice should be without appropriate consequence and in my
opinion he should not represent the people of this state and he certainly should
never have been given an ovation for his forced confession. Were he
truly contrite, he would have come forward with this information prior to an
election and allowed the public to make a decision given all the facts about his
character and decision making abilities.My heart goes out to his
victim, his family, and his constituents.
@what's up with Layton7:34a.m."He should do the right thing and step
down."Did Bill Clinton step down?
It was very dissappointing to see the Utah legislature stand and applaud Garn
after hearing his story. Where do they get their ethics?
@@extortionist1:01p.m.:["He is the one who committed a crime and was
never prosecuted."]When did it become a crime to get naked into a
hot tub with a naked teen? His wife may have a legit beef but not the law.["He's the one who paid the hush money."]She's the one who
committed extortion. She should be in jail for it... and for failing to pay
income taxes on the extorted money.
Kevin Garn is the opportunist in the situation, not Cheryl Maher. She may have
been wrong to take the money he offered to keep quiet, but according to the
story she did not extort or ask for it. He only offered it up to save his own
butt years after it happened! And for all you people condemming her here....SHE
is the victim and Kevin Garn is the opportunist.
Why did the Legislature give this clown a standing ovation! That is absurd and
embarrassing. Were they celebrating his conduct, including his lies?
Why can't members of our legislature be held to the same high standard that is
expected of public workers? If a teacher or policeman went "hot tubbing" with an
underage minor (even 25 years earlier) and then paid hush money as a result, the
teacher or policeman would face prosecution, forced resignation from public
service, and castigation and condemnation that would no doubt lead to the
legislature passing harsher punishments. Yet when one of our elected officials
does this, they get an invite by Speaker of the House, David Clark to not resign
and then leads the chamber in a round of thundering, standing applause. This is
an outrageous and egregious example of corruption that is rampant at the highest
levels of state government. One set of rules for them and another set of rules
for everyone else.
@I have 2 rules12:48p.m.:Rule #1 - Never go into a hot tub naked
with someone when you are married (other than your spouse); andRule #2 -
Never go into a hot tub naked with someone who is a minor...NEVER!!"]Everybody's naked under their swim trucks... even in a hot tub.Advice to minors... never get into a hot tub with a married person.
So why did all his peers stand up and given him an ovation. Maybe it was the
heat of the moment...but I hope most of them make a statement indicating they
were wrong for doing so.As for Mr. Garn....come clean. Register on
the sex-offender list and get some help.
I find it extremely sad and frightening that the legislature gave this man an
ovation. Forgiveness comes from the Lord ultimately, and since he's LDS he need
to seek the Church's forgiveness on this for his membership. Politically though
he needs to be out of office and be honorable and resign and/or not run again.
Funny how if this is an educator/teacher they would be dismissed, fired, and the
DA would be seeking to see if charges can be brought up. A legislature in my
opinion holds even a higher standard since they are the ones introducing and
passing laws regarding the safe keeping of children. We all have our sins, but
in this case, this man is unfit for public office. end of story.
one thing for sure - she darned sure is no longer 15. He was wrong to begin
with, power, position, advangate - all that is true. But years later you're
telling me when someone, in a threatening manner, tries to extort money from a
situation the extorter is doing nothing criminal?Get real!
"Cheryl Maher said Friday that Utah House Majority Leader Kevin Garn is lying
about having no physical contact with her when they went hot-tubbing in the nude
when she was 15 years old."Yeah, they probably shook hands or played
footsy in the hot tub.Look, there's a big difference between sexual
contact and physical contact.
Suggest many of the commenters here go back and re-read the story regarding his
relationship with this CHILD. It is not about a single "incident" in a hot tub.
Also note questions about the timing, source, and legality of the hush money.
Just resign and and it will all go away. We need moral and just men in the
legislatur. Pleas go away.
This whole story is very disturbing. The thing that gave me chills when I saw
the video of the confession in the house chamber last Thursday evening was the
standing ovation he received from his peers. If they are really his "peers" we
are really in trouble. Rep. Garn's behavior in this matter is disturbing. His
legislative "peers" behavior is doubly disturbing, amazing and disappointing.
Violating election laws is the least of this man's concerns. He should be more
worried about being a registered sex offender. The WHOLE story is now bound to
come out. What he has admitted to is strong enough evidence that he should be
prosecuted for exposing himself to a minor. I was rather appauled
to see our legislature rally around him. They should be condemning HIS ACTIONS,
and respecting only that he is coming forward. Would he be coming forward
unless this woman was saying things? He paid her years ago. He should have
gone to jail and paid his debt to society back then. He should resign, go and
serve his time behind bars like all other criminals, then come back and see if
the public will vote him into office.
Re: DeeYou said: "Ok Dee make your case. If Garn never even touched
the woman(at that time a teen girl) what justifies him being on the sex offender
registry?"You're just amazing. Public indecency (no touching) with
a minor is a Class I sex offense and requires registration on the sex offender
registry.You folks, and the legislature, who act like this is no big
deal are incredible. The dude got naked with a 15 YO girl!And by
the way, Garn's insistence that nothing happened is about as believable as
Clinton's "I didn't inhale."
to have touched her, he was naked in front of her, that is all Utah requires for
someone to be listed as a sexual preditor and put on its manditory list.
Exposure to a minor should put him in prison, but we will see if Utahns are
smart enough to get this right. Lately, they can't even get a husband killing
his wife right.
Not everyone is perfect, obviously. I mean listen to all of you guys judging
this story when most of you have not even met either person. The fact is, it
happened 25 years, long before Rep. Garn was in politics. He broke the law,
made a mistake, and now serves this county. He obviously isn't doing it for
money because he has plenty. Why does everyone have to be so hard on
politicans? He is human just like all of us, helping our country. Yes, if this
happened now while he was in politics, then he should resign, but it happened 25
years ago! He is obvously doing a good job too, people voted him in and then
other politicians voted him into leadership. Give the guy credit for the good
he is doing!
This woman is obviously starving for attention. $150,000 is plenty of money to
get counseling and move forward with life, but apparently she wanted more. Wow
lady, it happened 25 years ago, GET OVER IT! Like I said before, you had plenty
of money to get some good counseling, and apparently you didn't get it!
Everyone makes bad choices, sometimes even horrible ones. That is why we are
sent here is to learn and move on. Let this poor man move on with his life!
This is all Obama's fault! If you can't tell, I'm being sarcastic. It was a
bad year for Republicans in Utah.
To the guy who questioned my statement of: "The way to look at is this: Kevin
Garn, touching or not, should have been on the sex offender registry".You are amazing. Public indecency (which requires no touching) in front of a
minor is a Tier ! sex offense and requires registration on the sex offender
registry.The dude got naked with a 15 YO girl! And the legislature,
and folks like you want to act like it's nothing.And by the way,
Garn's "nothing happened" is as believable as Clinton's "I didn't inhale."
John Galt"Of course, I believe EVERYTHING she has to say. No WAY she
would lie about anything that happened. "Let's just say he loves a massage". How
about "let's just say you are lying". Just sayin'"This is what rape
and molestation victims have to go through all the time. Constant accusations
that they are lying and that if someone pays them $150,000 its not an admission
of their guilt. If she is lying he had every opportunity to tell her to get lost
and to take a hike and accept any investigations and news stories about her
allegations and let investigators vindicate him but he chose not to do so but
instead chose to pay her to keep quiet because she's telling the truth.Can you say that all those young boys who were molested by Catholic priests
were lying? We know they are lying. We know it. So tell the truth or
better yet take some money so you don't have to be put through the grinder by
faithful Catholics or Mormon Republicans who will defend upstanding Catholic
Priests or Mormon Republican legislators. At minimum he bribes people. That's
Reading some of this is so surprising. Regardless of political party or
religion what HE did was wrong. She was 15...he was her boss and her one time
Sunday School teacher. Look at the two women teachers who were sexually
involved with their jr. high student...was it the boys fault? Afterall it was
consensual. That our legislature would react to his admission with thunderous
applause and a standing ovation is frankly embarrassing. He should have been
charged with a crime, and she with extortion.
It doesn't matter what he is now, or what her intentions are now. The foundation
of this whole thing is this man--who was old enough to know better--groomed and
abused a minor. If he had any integrity he would have taken care of it in the
beginning. He should have dropped out of the race instead of paying hush money.
I am republican, I don't know the man, but his actions show me he should not be
trusted. She is one of many young girls who have had their lives messed up at
the hands of a selfish out of control man. What goes around comes around and it
his turn to feel the pain.
What and IDIOT!!!! That's all I can say!
If this is true, it's disgusting.I never cease to be amazed at how
some individuals think they can actually run and be elected to public office
when they have skeletons like this in their closets. WHAT WAS HE THINKING?I feel sorry for his family and the girl--that is, if it's true.If it is true, he deserves to have the full weight of the law and the
Church Court come down on his head, big time.I fear we are becoming
way too influenced by the world. DO YOU SEE WHERE IT GETS YOU, KEVIN?
Killpack and Garn- two Layton peas in a totally corrupt and rotten pod. These
idiots wanted Killpack toresign, just like they want Garn to stay. He sould do the right thing and step down. But he won't, because
in legislative leadership, EGO trumps all.
They both need help. She was 15 when this happened. He was someone in the
church, an adult, a former Sunday school teacher, employer, and the one who may
have been completely responsible for reaching out to this girl in an
inappropriate and illegal way. He will need healing and forgiveness. If he did
what he said he did, he made a big moral, ethical, and legal mistake. I think
they call them predators today. She on the other hand was a "kid" who was
taken advantage of by an "opportunistic" adult. Even though a lot of time has
passed, it is possible that event affected the way she has lived her life since
then. When a process doesn't work, don't you go back and try to figure out when
things were going right, and then figure out where they started going wrong?
This may be the story of her life. This experience could have made her feel
"unworthy"of a better life, and so she has spent it trying to escape through her
drugs, or maybe it forced her to "try to" grow up sooner, making even more
mistakes. She needs help and healing also.
A person is not a registered sex offender until after they are convicted of a
sexually-oriented crime. No charges were ever brought against Garn. The statute
of limitations has certainly run out, so no charge could be brought now, or even
as recently as 2002, in all likelihood. From a religious perspective, Garn
should have confessed this and possibly other actions to his bishop. We have no
evidence whether he did or did not. Ms. Maher says she has no knowledge of it.
She says she has been excommunicated from the LDS Church for adultery unrelated
to Garn. She says she has had emotional and drug problems over the years. It's
hard to say when her emotional problems began, or whether they were in any way
caused by this incident, which never should have happened. I have to think this
brings Garn's political career to an end. It's up to him, his family, and his
God to sort out any remaining culpability. Ms. Maher is an extortionist, and
could be prosecuted, but she has her own demons to deal with. Just leave us out
of it, okay?
i can't believe people on here are attacking the victim, WHO IS MAHER, NOT GARN!
seriously, what is wrong with you people? sounds like your church needs to
have a good long talk with you about what constitutes right and wrong.the ADULT MAN was hot-tubbing naked with a 15 yr ld GIRL. only in utah and
fundamental Islamic society would this turn into "the girl's fault".
You couldn't make this stuff up. Politician admits he played in a
hot tub with a 15 year old, then adds that he paid her $150k hush money, now she
wants more money so she exposes him, then we find out the newspapers knew this
eight years ago and kept quiet, now we find out that he probably broke election
laws and the Legislature gave him a standing ovation...and he can't figure out
whether he should resign or not???? It's easy - he should resign,
and so should every one of those dolts that applauded him. If for no other
reason than that they all make us look like complete fools for allowing them to
represent us and make our laws.Isn't there anyone with half a brain
up on the hill?
This is so typical of religious politicians!His wife and son sent
emails urging her to be quiet?He was 28 and she was 15? I would
call that rape!
She was 15, he was a 30 yr. old married man, her boss and in a position of
religious influence. Sure she was infatuated with him, but he should have NEVER
taken her to a spa! He committed a crime, period! I don't care about her
checkered past, it is irrelavent to the crime that took place, THEN. He should
resign NOW. He NEVER should have been elected to office. Let the courts and
legal system decide about the money.
him of criminal stupidity with a minor, and her of extorting money and taking
advantage of someone's stupid mistake. One might feel sorry for her
but she accepted a large sum of money to buy her silence. But years later the
original sum is still not enough - her attempts to get more money are criminal.
I feel sick to my stomach looking at the picture of nearly everyone applauding
him. For what? For showing the "courage" to confess? He was FORCED to confess
because she was about to "out" him.No matter what really happened,
no matter how this all plays out, the right thing to do is resign. NOW.
Hasn't the statute of limitations ran out on this matter? Is there even a
statute of limitations in Utah in regards to this? Can Garn still be punished?
Before we all assume he will possibly be charged it would be helpful to know if
he can be charged or not?
I just wonder where her parents were through all of this since she said they had
had a relationship for awhile. If a 15 year old daughter of mine was spending
time with an older man I would have gone right to the police. Also why was this
not reported to the police when it happened. There are some unanswered
questions. I am not saying what he did was right, because it wasn't. But this
needs to be looked into. He should have been punished back when it happened.
Also she may have had all these problems when she was young. No one seems to
know her background, as no one has checked her out thoroughly. I am sorry for
everyone involved. This woman needs real help, something that $150,000 does not
cure. Also by her picture she appears to be happy. That makes me question her
stability. What is her reason for bringing this out now.
I was especially disturbed to see on the news the Utah Legislature applauding
Mr. Garn for his confession. Some weren't, however. Good for them! That was
clearly the right thing to do!I feel most sorry for Garn's wife!
How much did she know? How much suffering has she endured over the years? She
must have known if big money is going out the door!
It's funny that, around here, when a man makes a mistake we should forgive. But
when a woman makes a mistake, she's just a terrible person.
$150,000 in 2002? ..Republicans are cheap.Edwards, D-NC would have
paid her millions or married her.And please don't ever tell Obama
the number that comes after a trillion.
Another one bites the dust...
HUH? "He wrapped me up and infected me." ?????WHAT does that mean???? Did
she get an STD from this jerk?
Repentance and forgiveness are not the problem. The problem is a young woman who
was sexually abused by a trusted male adult. An entire life CAN be ruined,
especially when she is left to flounder on her own. HE started her on her
downward path. Her self-esteem, self worth, and views on morality have all been
seriously affected/altered by a relationship with this married man. There are
countless women whose lives have been irrevocably changed by sexual abuse. The
men go on, repent, and are forgiven. But the young women are forgotten or told
to "get over it." They often don’t get therapy to fully heal and sometimes
make one bad choice after another. Brothers rape sisters and families act if the
girl should just shrug it off and move on. Marriages without true physical
bonding end in divorce because of sexual abuse in the wife's earlier life by
step/fathers who are still married to and accepted by the mothers! No matter how
penitent a person is, some things can never be put together again. His wife and
children are innocent victims. There are no winners here.
Nevada has John Ensign and our Luv Gov Jim Gibbons.Republican idiots
that say and supposedly believe one thing and do another.Idaho has
Larry Craig the bible and floor thumper.Nevada did not applaud
Ensign.Idaho did not applaud Craig.Utah, the state with the
most morally upright state in the union, applauds Garn! Priceless
First the drunk driver legislator and now the naked in the hot tub with a child
legislator???It makes you wonder what other types of criminals we
have representing us in the Utah legislature. I guess this explains
why legislators do not want any ethics reform.
What an indictment on those legislators!
Re: Dee | 1:07 p.m. March 12 | 8:11 p.m. March 12, 2010 Ok Dee make
your case. If Garn never even touched the woman(at that time a teen girl) what
justifies him being on the sex offender registry? Buddy. Think about
what you're saying here. You really think this guy picks up a 6-pack of beer,
induces this girl to get naked in a hot tub with him, and then they just sit
there and have a nice chat? Think about that for just a second.
Betcha those legislators who stood to applaud and support Mr. Garn will be
backpedaling pretty fast once we learn more details about Mr. Garn's
"indiscretion(s)." There seems to be a lot more to this story than a slip-up.And to the "Dear, dear Cheryl" letter writers, you must be Mr. Garn's PR
team. Stop trying to smear a victim of sexual abuse. Shame!
I cannot believe the excuses my fellow conservatives are making for Garn. Just
because some Democrats have done the same or worse does not justify the behavior
no matter how long it has been. The facts are: he had an inappropriate
relationship with a minor, and he paid money to try and cover it up. Anyone who
does these things is not fit for public office, whether they are Democrat or
Republican.Cheryl made some comments that she was upset that she was
excommunicated for an extra-marital affair but Garn wasn't. Unfortunately, there
isn't much a bishop can do if the sinner doesn't come foward and confess. If he
has evidence he can present it to the person, but if they do not confess, there
is nothing he can do. Also, Church discipline is there to help someone along in
the repentence process, not to punish.
I am a republican and Latter-day Saint. But I believe this matter is
independent of political party or religion. It's about judgement.What I can't understand is how certain politicians actually believe these
things will never come out? Arrogance? Incompetence? Come on. You really
believed the hush money meant it would never come out? That's a lack of
judgement worthy of resignation in and of itself. And that's saying nothing of
the original act of sexual abuse of a minor.Good grief. I'll take a
replacement from either side of the isle who actually exercises good
judgement.Oh, and speaking of good judgement, an ovation? Really?
He (and she) needs your compassion but certainly not your applause.
If this ever went to court it would be he said she said. You could never prove
anything other than voyuerism took place. Sad story.
He should resign....no question about it.
why isn't anyone talking about the fact that a LDS bishop helped mediate
extortion? I'm LDS and I'm pretty disgusted! Will the Deseret News
even print my comment? We will see.
A troubled womanA troubled manA troubling story
I believe Garn has spammed this web site saying lets just forgive him and forget
it. I refuse to believe so many D News readers believe that he is fit to remain
"The way to look at is this: Kevin Garn, touching or not, should have been on
the sex offender registry"Ok Dee make your case. If Garn never even
touched the woman(at that time a teen girl) what justifies him being on the sex
offender registry? From Maher's own quote you would be stretching
it to file any charge that would result in mandatory SO registration.If he was a genuine sex abuse perpetrator, then let the man go to Court and
pay for his crimes, but with the eveidence that is currently given, your
comments have no merit or foundation other than political bias and bigotry.
You can say what ever you want about Cheryl, but she is not a state senator
(senate leader).It is a privilege to serve in the state government.
Elected representatives should be held to a higher standard (like not getting
naked with a 15yr old girl), just like police officers. GARN SHOULD
GoodGuyGary wrote - "The lady first blackmailed the guy decades after the
incident, while she herself having a "pill porblem".(sic)As I read
it no one said blackmail. She came forward when he attempted to run for
Congress, he and his wife met with her and her LDS bishop (that from another
article) and Garn offered the money. No one, even Garn has she that she asked
for the money. She didn't turn the money down but she was also facing many
personal problems in her life quite possibly from this relationship. And it truly doesn't matter what your political party affiliation is but it
does matter what your personal character is. Garn's personal character, based
on what we have been told thus far, is sleazy. He needs to be removed from
office. I believe his fellow legislators are jerks for the standing ovation
after making his partial confession.
Yeah he's a real upstanding man. First pays hush money just 8 short years ago
then is given an ovation for getting out in front of this before she could . If
she hadn't talked would he have done his tearful Mea Culpa last night ? I highly
doubt it .
Not surprising. When I first read about this, I didn't think Garn was telling
the whole story. Based on the track record of a good portion of this characters
in the Legislature, I believe little of anything they say.
How did this story about Garn stay under wraps while the legislature is in
session? Lack of transparency? Who's protecting Garn and why?
A man from the less powerful social strata within our “zero
tolerance” culture would have been jailed by now — labeled a sexual
predator. Mr. Garn held positions of influence and authority over this young
woman at the time of the incident, which indicates a level of force. Given that
he was well into his adult years and she still a minor by several years, one
should consider the issue one of statutory sexual assault. Look at the legions
of such cases filed, and the “no mercy” prosecutions commonly
executed on men of lesser stature. Garn’s socio-political stature, weath,
and perhaps even religion appear to have given him immunity not available to
most. Why are our lawmakers lining up for condolence photo ops with. For
the rest of us, this would be a case of taking indecent liberties with a minor
obstruction of justice, and blackmail.
You may be right. I am not a lawyer.My understanding is however that the
statute of limitations starts when it is discovered or reported.If it was
reported to law enforcement in the past, and they did not prosecute, I think the
lady would have a case for a lawsuit.If it is just being discovered now,
then they have 4-5 years to file charges.Should not be hard to prove,
being that he stood up in front of 100+ witnesses (including I am sure several
cops) and admitted it.If he can not be prosecuted,then it is a shame on
our justice system.It is also a shame on all the legislators that voiced
support for the man yesterday.The makers of the law, should not be the
supporters of its violation.
Why would I have believed Clinton when there was the stained blue
dress?I believe the evidence and I believe that yelling "hypocrite" when a
Republican does something wrong but silence when a Democrat (John Edwards, Ted
Kennedy, Bill Clinton) does something wrong implies that Democrats are not
hypocrites because they have no morals to start with. Frog feathers! These
actions are wrong regardless of political stripe. Innocent until proven guilty,
Whose soul is being cankered more? The two subjects of the story? Or all the
judgmental posters who are so quick to vilify them?
Nice to see that the judges are out in full force...
Sad story. When will we ever learn? Down with the dogs, up with the fleas.
It's always worked to destroy families, it always will. Learn already. The
costly price of sinful pleasure. Was it worth it?
anybody who can defend a 28 year old getting naked with a 15 year old as
anything but criminal, is a possible pedephile themselves. He should be in
Jail.People who question her story should remember it was 150 thousand
dollar story that kept him running for office instead of getting the beating he
deserved at the point of the mountain. There is NO defense for this, and 28 is
not a Youthful indiscretion. A picture of a naked 15 year old will get you room
and board at the point.
The fact is that even IF a crime was committed, the statute of limitations has
long since passed. That IS the law whether we agree with it or not.
Why is everyone applauding this individual? I wonder if he would of kept this
incident a secret if it did not surface?
Of course, I believe EVERYTHING she has to say. No WAY she would lie about
anything that happened. "Let's just say he loves a massage". How about "let's
just say you are lying". Just sayin'
This is not the first and won't be the last surprise we will hear from those we
trust. I am sad for both parties. Here's a man who made a horrible mistake and
a young woman taken advantage of!!! Is the moral of this don't run for
political office or come clean before you do? I hope and pray everyone involved
will heal and the community will allow healing. Think of both parties'
immediate and extended families. There are definitely more victims then just
Mr. Barns and Ms. Maher.
But didn't you believe Bill when he said "I did not have sexual relations with
that woman"?Interesting story, interesting timing for Garn to reveal
this "indiscretion," and plenty of blame to go around. Glad I don't have to
deal with any of it. But in case you ask, I'd say he needs to resign.
We blamed Clinton for Lewinsky (who was an adult at the time) but forgive Garn
and blame Maher now. Is Utah popping pills? If your minor daughter was nude in
the hot tub with her Sunday School teacher, how would you feel. No touching?
So many valid points back and forth, though in the end I think some very formal
processes will sort this out. Possibly a House Ethics committee hearing,
possibly court. Who knows.All of that aside a good defense attorney
would jealously guard his clients image. The first thing he would do is tell her
to take down the freakn web cam picture. It harms her image greatly!Duuhhh
these comments so funny as if they are going to change anyone's mind!
Cheryl Maher looks downright giddy in her picture. Must have come back for a 2nd
round of extortion money. Not saying that Garn didn't do something wrong...but
let's be realistic about why this is coming out now after 25 years. Cheryl Maher
is an opportunist. Period.
Perhaps if you had committed a CRIME against a teenage girl and not an affair
with a consenting adult you should consider not running for office. The only
thing you should consider at that point is how much longer do I have to sit in
Does the law only apply to the poor?If Garn is not charged, then we need
to let every sex offender who commited simular in prison go.Now I
certainly do not want that to happen, so what needs to happen is he needs to go
there and join them.Why would his wife let him around children knowing he
is a pedophile?
My childhood friend Kevin Garn should resign now NOW.
So glad I do not live in Utah where there appears to be a lot of comfort in
blaming the victim and using words such as "repentance" as a way to support an
elected politician who has a WIFE!! I am wondering, has there been any
discussion about his conduct with a young girl--also known as a minor? Will he
have to register as a sex offender or has he REPENTED and everyone should look
the other way? Are there others? He was this woman's Sunday School teacher and
later her employer. Pre-meditated? Grooming her from a young age? A problem with
power? This person needs to resign and needs to be investigated.
Buddy's busted. Doesn't matter his political stripe.
Quite an impressive list you have there. How many of those women were 14 or 15?
Do any of the people defending Garn have 15 year old daughters? He had been her
Sunday School Teacher?
To the 12:48 commentator, I would say Never go into a hot tob at all if
you are married with people of the opposite sex unless your spuse is there and
never be alone in a hot tub with a minor. While violating these rules
might not be immoral or criminal, it clearly is stupid. You just open yourself
up to all sorts of accusations that you avoid by being in a more public
she's a QT. i can see why a 28-year-old molly would fall for her at what was it?
14? oh, sorry. 15. yeah.
I am all for forgiving people for their actions, but they have to face the
consequences. I see no evidence that Garn has ever faced consequences.
Paying hush money to avoid more consequences is not restitution. Restitution
would be paying money to help someone whose life you have destroyed AND openly
revealing it to the public.
Well, it appears that Garn admits he paid the hush money and that he was in
the hot tub with a single 15-year-old as a 28-year-old man. I hope his
Church leaders at the least discuss this issue with him. Depending on what all
he did, and what was revealed in the past (including possibly having been
disfellowshipped for it) there are different possibilities. However, at a bare
minimum his Church leaders should at least consider how his paying the hush
money affects the extent to which he is truly penitent. Somehow paying
huge amounts of money to keep someone quite seems to be the total opposite of
Now said "moral " girl has doped herself out of a marriage and money so she
re-nigs and goes public because he will not give her more and more money. So
tell me why I have the right to judge their past or decide which is the worst of
two bad characters? Yes he is in politics and we voted for him. Has his voting
record been bad? Will he now vote differently since we know he made a bad
decision 25 years ago by paying her? Or when he let a tramp get him to go
against his own morays?
Lots of mud here all around.
Twenty five years ago a young girl decided she was in love with a married man.
If her morals from her up bringing had been in place she knew what she was doing
was wrong. He at twenty eight was an adult who also knew what he was doing was
wrong. So post doing this wrong act he told his wife and Bishop and ask for
forgiveness and repented. Then years later said "moral" girl decided hey! I can
get rich off this guy now that he is in politics. So she confronts him with a
Bishop in tow. He says OK I understand you want to seek medical help so I will
give you $20,000. She instead says I will not go public if you give me $150,000.
His wife and He think well it is better for our family if this stays private so
we will pay.
The less I believe nothing happened in that hot tub.
Check out the hot tub adds at the bottom of the page!
If Garn did these things he should be removed from the legislature, and
probably excommunicated, and quite possibly face prison time for criminal sexual
conduct with a minor. However, that is a big IF. Just because someone is
accused does not mean they are guilty.
First, I do not condone what Garn did.However, what is this woman's
motivation? What can she gain from this, other than the satisfaction of taking
this man down?Looks like she even sent in her own photo she's taken
with a webcam, and smiling like she's just hunky dory. She's got issues.
The nude hot tub parties with minors, the payoffs-these sound like the actions
of a deeply unsavory character masquerading as an upstanding member of the
community. Political views aside, this guy's constituents should have some
serious reservations about him.
Do a quick search for "minor" on the deseret news front page. Look how many
examples you find of someone having an improper relationship with a teen girl.
Then look at the comments, they are night and day compared to this story. Double standards much? Disgusting.....All these people
are saying is that if you can get away with it for 25 years then you are a great
person. Yay! standing ovation!
So, I've messed up before. Perhaps not this far, in my opinion, but still, I was
married, and it was, of course, with another consenting adult. Yes, I worked
through it with my wife.Does that mean I can never run for public
office? Have I forfeited any opportunity to be in the public eye?
When I first heard the story, I told my wife that I doubted Garn when he said
there had been no sexual contact. I find the woman to be incredible, but I
suspect that she tells the truth when claiming physical contact between the two
of them. Still, this woman should be prosecuted for blackmail.
Garn should have gone to the police each and every time he was approached for
money. He then could have recorded some conversations. He probably still feels
guilty about what he did, however, and wishes to take responsibility for his
actions rather than focus on retribution for the wrongs perpetuated by the young
woman. I myself think that it should be possible to prosecute a blackmailer
without telling the public the details of the extortion. Such trails should be
closed to the public and sealed in order to encourage people to stand up to
This is terrible, Hang the GOP! but Monica Lewinski was no problem, same
with:Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) -
rapeElizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident
intimidation Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting,
bruising her"Kathleen Willey (WH) - sexual assault, intimidations,
threatsSandra Allen James (DC) - sexual assault 22 Year Old 1972
(Yale) - sexual assault Kathy Bradshaw (AK) - sexual assaultCristy
Zercher - unwelcomed sexual advance, intimidations Paula Jones (AR) -
unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assaultCarolyn
Moffet -unwelcomed sexual advance, exposure, bordering on sexual assaulInteresting how Democrats seeth with anger and hatred toward anything the GOP
does but fellow Democrats always get a pass.
Dear Mrs. Garn,I hope you take him to the cleaners and get on with your
life. He is nothing but a low life; don't stand by your man - you are the
only victim here and if you stay with him you are an idiot. My goodness money
is wasted on the wealthy. Oh and if he had 150,000 disposable income 25 years
ago just think what he has now!
For those of you defending Kevin Garn, ask yourselves a few questions:#1 If it were a Democrat, would you still defend this man?#2 If Kevin
Garn was just an ordinary joe sixpack, would you believe his version of the
story?#3 Would you have the exact same sympathy for Kevin Garn if this
woman was your daughter?Think about it. If you answer no to any of
those questions up above, then why are your currently defending this man?
Politics? To stick it to the Democrats? To show hypocrisy?Sorry Mr.
Garn, the bell has tolled. You're done. Your political career is over, you no
longer can be trusted. NO ONE. And I mean NO ONE, is above the law.
Whether you're white, black, old, young, male, or female, what Kevin Garn did
was foul and completely wrong. He needs to be tried as the criminal he is and
should be run out of office. We need representatives that truly
represent us, INCLUDING our values.
The commentators are obsessed with the hot tub incident, but the article is
about the real issue and that is the ill-advised payment of money and what
happened more recently. Garn should resign. He's much worse than a guy who had
a moment where he exercised poor judgment.
He is pathetic PERIOD the END. AND so is his wife for supporting it! AND the
legislature is just as classless as he is... A standing O... Give me a break
guys seriously! Pathetic... Simply pathetic!!!
He was 28, that is almost 30, probably married with kids. She was 15. They were
in a hot tub, naked. According to her, he did touch her, he massaged her. Did
anyone know that Garn subsequently graduated from the Utah College of Massage
Therapy, though he does not have a college degree. He was her (former?) LDS
Sunday School teacher and her employer. She had a crush on him. He took
advantage of her.Think about the sexual abuse crisis in the Catholic
Church, many instances of abuse consist of no more than what is described here,
like those incidents disclosed by former U.S. Rep Mark Foley. They are wrong!
They are illegal, felonious! She reported this to Church leaders, who did
nothing, not even notifying the police. He would have been arrested, charged,
and since we know by his admission that he was at least in the hot tub naked
with her, likely convicted. Today he would be a sex offender. How many tough sex
offender has this sex offender voted for? Garn is the extortionist. It is really
horrible to report this story like it's no big deal because happened 25 yrs ago.
Hiding your transgressions is so much worse than the transgression.Sorry, Kevin, you don't get to wait for years and years and then pretend
you're being honest.But at least you make Bill Clinton look moral.
He made a mistake back then. He made his wife and faily aware of it and appears
to want to move on.The pill popper who got X'ed for cheating on her
husband has run out of cash and tried again.She is ticked off she
can't get any more for her habit. Clearly a vindictive approach.At
this point is there anything he is doing to perpetuate the problem.Clearly his error to begin with but since then he has done about alll he could
do to make it right. This girl has "ISSUES" stamped all over her
forehead and her behavior shows it.
he just sat there with a naked 15 year old girl.After all, he cried
when he told his story...
sex scandals...when will it end?
I think some of the CONservatives are starting to realize that maybe they
shouldn't have lionized and defended this clown. They're just a tad slow on
this kind of stuff (see Larry Craig, Trent Lott, Mark Foley, Mark Sanford, John
Ensign, etc), but I sense that some folks are starting to think "Oh,
wait....this is actually embarrassing. He's technically a sex offender and we
all ran over and embraced him like a hero."(slap to forehead)
It's not about Republican vs. Democrats in scandal counts. It's about a person
who places themselves on a moral high horse and then falls. Most readers of the
DNews would find me a very immoral person, but I'm not trying to pass laws about
who can sleep with who. Republicans often are and that is why, when they turn
about to be just like the rest of us, it stands out in our minds.
This isn't about which party has the most sex scandals-seems to me they're all
running around doing what they're not supposed to.Forget the party,
what's bothersome in this case is that he had sex with a 15 year old when he was
30. He was married, old enough to know better, & here he has this little 15 year
old, high school love sick puppy who has a crush on him & he acts on it? There's a reason there is a law called statutory rape & I don't care if
it was 25 years ago or 25 minutes ago, can anyone guarantee that this hasn't
happened before or since then? It was horrendous enough to send her over the
edge.And BTW the hush money was HIS ATTORNEY'S idea, so if she ever
decided to tell what really happened he'd yell extortion. What kind of a low
life attorney, an officer of the court, tries to hide a sex crime w/a minor by
It dosen't matter that he was high up in the church because as Glenn Beck
explained churchs should not be involved in social justice. And he is active,
and she is excomunicated, so the whole thing should be dropped and she needs to
give the money back.
Forget about this man for a second, and look up at the picture of his wife...
She looks truly devastated. Look at her face and imagine she was
your wife, sister, mother or even yourself standing where she stands. Tough
shoes to be in. So painful looking that I wouldn't want to wish this on my
worst enemy. Well, my thoughts and prayers are with her and her
family and I hope she can pull a Jenny Sanford or better yet, a Hillary Clinton,
and get through this heartache.
This was not an affair, it was a crime.An affair would require two
consenting adultsThis child could not consentThere are men in prison
right now for this sort of thing.How is that he has never been charged?Was it reported?The statute of limitations starts when it is
discovered/reported to the police.Right now Roman Polanski is sitting on
house arrest waiting to come back to the US for the same sort of thing.I
certainly understand that affairs happen, and no one is perfect.However
this is an entirely different thing all together.It appears that his
behavior has seriously damaged this woman.The money he paid out, although
wrong by both Kevin and the woman.I put 99% of the blame on KevinHe
created the problem when he messed her up mentally in the hot tub.You can
not pay some money and think that clears you from the legal consequences of
sexual behavior with a minor.
She was only 15 years old. Then they went to her LDS Bishop and he didn't
report this crime to the authorities, (Police)?Is this guy so
powerful that he gets to keep serving good honest citizens?I think
he should have his name listed on the National sex predator list.
Actually he was born in 1955, so he was 47 when he paid her off. And
according to the reports, of this happened in 1985, he was a 30 year old man.
ovation, and hugs all around, from the state legislature after bearing his
testimony in this.What does this tell you?It tells me
that he would get re-elected in a heartbeat, if his opponent were a Democrat.
Live your life as though your actions may some day come back and bite you in the
rear end. It is that simple.
He (or she) who is without sin, let him (or her) cast the first stone - at
either party involved.
Was she 14 or 15? I guess it doesn't matter, because in either case she's a
minor and he's a 30-year old married father and also her boss. It sounds like
this incident was devastating to her life so far. Why are most people trying to
attack the victim here? A woman claiming to be the victims sister alleges that
there was at least one other teenage victim. Did that victim receive a similar
payout?I'm shocked that Garn was called as a Bishop. Wouldn't his
membership record be tagged with a note that he had confessed to a sexual
deviance with a minor? I also wonder how much the Deseret News knew back in
2002 and why nothing was mentioned when Garn announced he was running again in
2006 and intended to become the speaker of the House?
As a non-native living in Utah, I'm stunned by many of these comments. 30 year
old man in hot tub nude with 15 year old girl. That's a crime regardless of when
it happened! Where are the family values and morals this state is supposed to
represent? This from the SL Trib: "After Garn publicly acknowledged
the incident and payments to Maher, Clark praised his colleague. I know not of
the man you speak of, but I know the man I consider a friend, a leader and an
asset to the State of Utah and I would ask our fellow colleagues that our hearts
might be open," Clark said. "We hope you would remain with us," Clark said, to a
standing ovation from the representatives and applause and shouts from those in
the gallery. Afterward, dozens of lawmakers lined up to embrace Garn, his wife
and various family members." WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?!
He's got that Utah Toad look. Like the manager at Walmart, or some assistant
boys' dean at a high school. I'm guessing he would use any power or authority
he could summon to get a young girl naked, even now. Balding toad.
What's the big deal? Everybody in D.C. has something to hide. They're all pigs
filled with greed and self absorption.
Mr. Garn should step down. We should eliminate such titles of nobility as
'Majority Leader' by removing party caucuses from inside legislative branches so
we are not confused into thinking these folks are leaders. They are public
servants, humans, flawed and we must stop doing more than electing
representatives every two years that will represent only. End majority/minority
traditions inside because it is not necessary to operate our legislature. Mr. Garn and Ms. Mahers have some challenges to work out, preferrably
not in the public eye. The victim in all this today is the public who simply
need representatives to deal with the issues we must have dealt with and then go
back to civilian life. Instead we get 'leaders' like Mr. Garn. The victim 25
years ago was Ms. Mahers. There is no rationalization that can make it Mr. Garn
as the victim of anything beyond the greed of Ms. Mahers' husband if the report
is at all accurate(of course the report called him 'minority' leader so who
knows). Politics is dirty, this is yet another example...are there any
statesmen in Utah?
Keep your clothes on and keep your affections to your wife Mr. Hypocrite! You
deserve what's happening to you. I just feel sorry for your poor wife. She
deserves so much better than you. So does the state. So do youth who believe
their Sunday School teachers practice what they preach. Shame on you Kevin Garn!
Perhaps maybe you should be excommunicated as well.
Just to clear up a few things1. Kevin Garn was not a politician at
28 - he was obviously an out-of-control 20 something male...lots of those around
but it still doesn't make it right2. He should not have been in the
hot tub with a 15 year old young lady, whether he was 15, 20, 30 or 50 years old
himself. 3. If he did not have sex with the young lady, that is not
rape...whatever he did was still wrong, wrong, wrong!4. Should he
resign? It would probably be the best thing all the way around for Ms. Maher,
Mr. Garn's family, Mr. Garn and his constituents
If this was someone other than an elected official he would be sitting in a jail
cell right now. If he being her boss and former sunday school teacher, as well
as her being three years under the legal age of consent, went into a hot tub
with her, he should be on the Utah Sex Offenders Website for the rest of his
Glad I don’t live in Utah. Half the population consists of self-righteous
judges. Both parties in this mess should be accountable before the law. The
rest of you should stand back, take a deep breath and be danged grateful
Democrats do worse? Worse than nude hot tub massage of a 15 year old, by a 28
year old? Worse than taking advantage of a child who had every reason to think
her Sunday School teacher wouldn't do anything so wrong?Clinton,
Edwards and Massa were creepy, but their 'victims' were adults. No
political party, no religion, no nation has a monopoly on virtue or on vice.
Vice, when it breaks law, must be handled by our justice system. Our justice
system is notoriously unsympathetic with child abusers, as it should be. Garn
must stand at the bar of justice.
didnt realize cheryl was also the son's babysitter.. even creepier
Really? When Democrats do bad things, Gayle Ruzicka is out with the villagers
carrying torches. Wanna bet this fool will get reelected? I have never sat in
a hot tub naked with anyone, especially not an employee who as significantly
younger, and he was married to boot.
So, is Garn the minority leader or the majority leader? The article seems to
have it both ways.
Wow, who knew we live in South Carolina?I am bothered than the Des
News hushed it up because it might influence the election. Hello! This is the
stuff we should know about BEFORE electing someone. The good old boys
protecting each other.
Kevin Garn paid the $150,000 in 2002, which would have made him 45 years of age
at that time and not 28. There are no winners in this sad
RIGHT ARM!!!Being LDS and conservative, I'm surprised at the
number of people saying to forget it or are shouting "The Demos are just as
bad". Sure, I can forgive him, but that doesn't mean I have to support him as my
representative. Sometimes you need to just say things out loud. "A married man
naked in a hot tub with a 15-year old girl, physical contact and doing
everything he can to cover it up and keep his standing in the church and
community". No sir, he doesn't represent me.
LCP,You misunderstood. He did not give her the 150K when he was 28.
He gave that to her in 2002. Just thought I would clear that up.
Typical repressed Republican pervert acting out with children
Appears Maher has certinaly had some problems and far from being the best
charater witness...but...If sex took place , isn't that Statutory
Rape? What's the difference in this case and the Roman Polanski case, where a
similar incident took place.Isn't it a bit absurd to call it a "
Indiscretion that took place a long time ago". A indiscretion would be having a
affair outside of your marriage with an adult, not sex with a 15 year old when
you are 30. Sounds like a pretty serious " indescretion"!
Does the church have a penalty for this kind of behavior or is there a statute
Capital felony, murder, manslaughter, none; other felony or negligent homicide:
4 yrs.; fraud or breach of fiduciary obligation, official misconduct: 3 yrs.
max.; rape, sodomy, or sexual abuse of a child: within 4 yrs. of reporting
offense; child abuse homicide, aggravated kidnapping, child kidnapping: none;
violent felony: none if identity of perpetrator unknown but DNA evidence is
collected and would identify the person at a later date (does not apply if
statute of limitations has run as of May 5, 2003 without changes filed), once
identification made, within one year if statute of limitations has run; misuse
of public monies, falsification or alteration of public records, bribery: 2 yrs.
after facts reported to prosecutor.NO PROBLEM , HE IS IN THE CLEAR.
JUST LIKE MARION BARRY ON THE VIDEO AND OJ...NOT GUILTY...SORTA
"I did not want to be publicly judged by one of my life's worst decisions."One of them? Holy cow!And all the defenders saying "C'mon,
we've all done stuff with naked underage girls.....just forget about it. Why
should it ruin his career and marriage?"You folks are quite possibly
crazy. No. Really.
He was an adult. He was her employer. He was her sunday school teacher. She
may be crazy but if he were caught doing this today. He'd be a convicted felon.
She voided the contract. Does he get his money back?
Lies eventually have a way of unraveling themselves. He might as well 'spill the
beans' now instead of having it come out by piecemeal.I wonder what
this ladies life, and if she would have ever been excommunicated, etc..., could
of been like if it wasn't for the actions of this man.
There's plenty of sleeze to go around (regardless of pary). Garn for getting
naked and hopping in the tub with a teen (even if she thought she was in love
with him, what was *his* motive?), Garn again, for reporting he never touched
her (uh sure, that makes sense. He lacked judgment hopping into the tub naked
but suddenly has enough sense not to touch...what? he just enjoyed the
view?...sure, right). Garn again for burying it to avoid taking any
responsibility. Maher for blackmailing Garn in order to *heal* (I doubt she
spent the money on badly needed therapy...after all her husband needs money
too!)Maybe Garn can claim being a school teacher or lunch lady and get a
slap on the wrist like most female perpertators.Democrats do worse? When
it comes to keeping their pants up, politicians in general lack integrity,
self-control (free money anyone?) and require immediate gratification (hands off
the teen pages male or female). In the meantime, the country loses its freedoms
one executive order at a time. It's all quite pathetic really.
Politicians -- Liars AA has a meeting on the Hill tomorrow ... ALL Attend!
He was 28, she was 15. He was her boss. He, according to the law, sexually
harassed a minor. Nobody gets into a hot tub naked with another person and does
nothing. He is disgusting. He needs to be put in the sexual offender database.
The Mormon culture seems to amp the comments here much like Islamic culture in
the Mid East. In my opinion Garn is a creep and desperate, which is NOT a
partisian characteristic but a lack of character. Not being the Lord Jesus
Christ I can't judge him, but I wouldn't want him representing me.
It appears to me he has admitted to this. SO..he needs to be charged because he
committed a crime and if convicted, then immediately registered as a sex
offender! NOBODY is above the law.
Did the Mahers claim the $150K on their 2002 Fed Taxes? They just may be in
some real deep IRS trouble if they didn't. Unless of course they are in like
with Tim Geithner or Charlie Rangel and in that case, I guess they'll be ready
for gov't appointments.
Sounds pretty juicy...
RE: Dave in FLWell done. Couldn't have said it better myself.
"Hit it, Hide it, Deny it."
Happened a long time ago, he is sorry. I have tons of sins too, i would want
others to forgive me...give me a break!!
He can call it extorition, but that doesn't make it so. He was her employer. She
was a minor. It is a classic case of power and coersion. She had cause for a
tort action, but they came to a settlement prior to filing suit. What is telling
is that in his mind it was extortion and hush money, not settlement of a legal
action. His judgement is very bad indeed and based on his statement of events it
hasn't gotten better with time.
Kevin dude, the veil is lifted. You're not so lilly white after all. Get off
your high horse and join the unwashed masses. OK, enough metaphors. It sure it
nice to see another right winger drown in their own hypocracy.
I'm rather tired of having everybody's dirty laundry shoved in my face every
time I read the news. Maybe it's time to stop reading th news all together and
being highly selective about what i watch on TV news! I'll include all the
worthless comments as well!
This is all so one sided and sexist that it could only happen in Utah or a
Being LDS and conservative, I'm surprised at the number of people saying to
forget it or are shouting "The Demos are just as bad". Sure, I can forgive him,
but that doesn't mean I have to support him as my representative. Sometimes you
need to just say things out loud. "A married man naked in a hot tub with a
15-year old girl, physical contact and doing everything he can to cover it up
and keep his standing in the church and community". No sir, he doesn't represent
Sounds like one and the legislature removed any statute of limitations.
Boys and Girls, it's called statutory rape. She was 15 he was a grown, married
politician. Young girls are impressionable and people in authority are oftimes
attractive. Political parties aside, this guy is trouble and he will get his
just due.Why oh why do we have to reduce really bad things down to
political parties? Stop supporting these people, they don't need or want
or value your support. What do you think they think of you? Huh? Look at his
wife's face in the photo. Tears, hurt, embarrassment, humiliation and oh, he
loves her and is so sorry for his "indiscretion". And that business of
"democrats do worse", what BS, rape is rape and lies are lies and fools remain
Man, must have been a heck of a massage to have cost him $150,000 and his
political career. What I don't understand is this: The guy was in a
hot tub with a minor and presumably, not even allegedly, something happened.
Don't know that the statute of limitatins is in Utah for statutary rape, or
gross imposition or any other potentially applicable charge, however, I would
assume, based upon other jurisdictions, that statute of limitation is probably
less than 25 years. That being the case, why the heck are we putting this guy
"Democrats do worse than this..." Yup and so do Republicans, Independents,
Socialist, Communist, Marxist, Christians and even Mormons. As for running the
country into a Socialist country, it is too late for that as Bush did this with
all of his policies, ie. T.A.R.P and Medicare Part D.
@Democrats do worse: Any person who identifies themself as a party member is a
Traitor to America. Your post slamming Dems, probably means your a Repub-
Guess what - both (ALL)parties should be tried for treason. So why not treat
this correctly. Garn deserves everything he gets and Maher is no victom at this
stage of the game. 150K and 25 years - get real.
"So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He
that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." John 8:7It seems that the fellow has spent a lot of his time and his life
repenting for his sin.There seems to be those who believe that once
a sinner always a sinner. We know that can't be so. Everyone, even
you and I have the chance for redemption, both biblically and secularly,
otherwise what is the use in doing good works? Why even try?This
might be the dumbest story I've ever read.
The guy gave a 15 year old a massage in a hot tub. He was here former Sunday
School teacher. Have some of you missed that part?
Bad judgment? he should be prosecuted for statutory rape.If there is evidence
that other people in position of power knew of this violation they also should
be prosecuted.No one pays $150,000 to cover a hot-tub massage.I believe that he
should be made an example of and sent to prison,we have a obligation to protect
underage girls from lecherous men.This man is a pervert and should be treated as
yes the IRS should go after her for unreported income and him for 140000 over
the 10000 gift tax limit. That would help the deficit if we did that for all
these people. John Edward, Trent Lott, Bloggo, Charlie Rengle, Eric Massel just
to name a few.
And I thought YouTube comments were inane... You people who are trying to
politicize this idiot's obviously lack of morals and sound judgement are just
That woman is an adultress and extortionist. She should go to jail for
blackmail. What a horrible person. Let's just hope she's still excommunicated
for trying to ruin someone's life 25 years later. Will she ever go away?
Trashy ilk like her usually remain around like sludge stuck in your engine
causing more trouble....
To all those individuals dragging this woman through the mud - pointing out her
troubled past - I ask if it isn't possible that the guilt she carried from this
experience could have led her down that path?Imagine the feelings of
this poor young girl sitting through her Sunday meetings listening to lessons
about modesty and sexual purity.I doubt that a 14 or 15-year-old
girl have had much of a checkered past up to this point. She was likely
flattered that an older man found her attractive. Do we appreciate how
confusing teenage years are for girls?She wasn't even old enough to
drive. Don't portray a kid as a temptress. She was a kid!
How much corruption and scandal do politicians think they can get away with? I
know they are human, but they should strive to set a positive moral and ethical
example in the position they have been fortunate enough to obtain. No one is
perfect of course, but be a man and admit your mistakes, ask forgiveness, and
move on. You would gain more respect in the long run that way, but of course
they are only thinking in the short term and protecting their positions. We
need a change in the way leadership governs us. It has strayed too far from
what the founding fathers had in mind in my opinion. I'm not sure what the
solution is, but it would be nice for someone smarter than me to suggest
possible solutions. Thank you.
Another pious hypocrite in the land of Zion--so where is the news in this?
Kevin Garn may still be understating what took place in that hot tub. And, it
makes one wonder - where does a 28 year old get $150,000. It is clear to me
that Kevin Garn lives a very priveleged life and may be out of touch with
reality. He also probably feels very entitled. Not good attributes for a
representative of everyday people. I don't think he can relate to the people he
is supposed to represent.
Why did this paper cover up? This was the majority leader. Anyone that hushed
this up had an inside track on favorable legislation.
Sounds like this messed up pill popper wants to blame someone else for her
screwed up life. She willingly got into the hot tub with him. Sounds like
she's never had strong morals and doesn't have any now either. He shouldn't
have gotten into the tub naked, but I don't think that is why her life and
marriage are so screwed up.
This all happened a long time ago. I don't see any need to drag him or her
through it now. MOVE ON!!
People make mistakes. The real question is how has he lived his life since
Sorry but I am laughing.
"The evil that men do lives after them!"Who is lyning now?
Let's look at some the comments here, shall we?"Maher was hesitant
to give her own version of events when she spoke to City Weekly but said, 'Let's
just say this. He really loves to massage.'"Side-stepping because
you REALLY won't take the chance of saying what really happened? Because nothing
really did?"I was in love with him . . ."A teenage
infatuation which usually leads to "romantic illusions" later on about what
really happened.". . . she was excommunicated by the The Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints a few years ago for an extramarital
affair."Well, THAT says a lot about trustworthiness of character,
doesn't it?" . . . (she) was at the time a self-described mess with
a pill problem."This just gets better and better. We're supposed to
believe anything this person has to say?
28 years old. 15 years old. Creepy
Kevin Garn must resign from the State House. If the Statute of Limitations had
not run out, he could very easily have been charged with statutory rape,or at
the very least contributing to the deliquency of a minor. Mr. Garn, you must
"City Weekly reported on Friday that Cheryl Maher told it that Garn – who
is now the Utah House minority leader - ..."Garn is the MAJORITY
leader. He is a Republican. Please, don't blame this on the other party.
Repentant or not, Garn should resign. He took sexual advantage of a minor and
hid it until he was forced to confess in public. He didn't voluntarily reveal
any of this.They should both be prosecuted, she for extortion, and
he for blackmail and sex abuse of a minor.
There has to be more to this story. Who gets naked in a hot tube and doesn't
If I had that kind of money, I'd pay MY wife to keep quiet too!
I wonder if she declared the extortion money to the IRS?
The way to look at is this: Kevin Garn, touching or not, should have been on the
sex offender registry. And for that, his colleagues in the legislature gave him
a stand O. Shameful.
"..he may have violated election laws..."How about the fact that he
was in a hot tub with a young girl? I would think that should be the main store
and the election law should be the least of our concern. But the
again, both crimes have passed the statute of limitations.
settlements are not typically tax-able. They are sometimes but this case it can
probably be argued (if it was purportedly for emotional distress and to pay for
treatment) that it is not.If older men aren't supposed to mess
around with young girls, because it might mess them up for life, why are you so
harsh to her, when she in fact has a messed up life, because of it? If you think she should just be "over it," then why do we care if a consenting
14 year old girls climbs in the hot tub with a married older guy, anyhow?Because according to you, there is no damage done long term, right?
Democracts to worse than this, so why is this a story? It happened 25 years
ago, and we all make mistakes.At least Garn is not trying to turn
this country into a socialist country.
Dear Cheryl--What are you trying to do? He really ruined your life
massaging you in a hot tub? He offers you money to get on with your life and
leave him alone, and you won't. You think dragging him through the mud won't
get you just as dirty? Sounds like you are still on the pills and the 150 k has
long been spent on your addiction--otherwise why would you see the need to do
this? Sounds like he repented. Sounds like you have not.
She is a pill popping. extortionist, pure and simple. Garn will have to pay the
price, but she and her husband should be sent to prison.
It's extortion. Something that old shouldn't be news now. Can't we all be good
Christians and forgive the guy?
RE:extortionistRepented? You mean by paying her to be quiet and
keeping everything hush-hush? Is that what repentance is to you?
Regardless of her motives, he made two really, really, really bad judgment
calls. He is the one who committed a crime and was never prosecuted. He's the
one who paid the hush money. Blame her all you want, but ultimately he is the
one responsible for his own mess.
Jesus loved the sinner,forgave the adulteress,forgave the Romans,forgave the thieves, etc. etc.but Oy vey!, how he loathed those
Politicians make me SICK. The IRS now should go after this woman, who apparently
received the hush money and see if she reported it as income. If not. slam the
freaking cell door on her also.
This upright gentleman is one of the chief opponents of the legislative ethics
initiative. Now we know why...
What makes us think that since he lied 25 years ago that he will tell the truth
about what happened now? This is going to be a soap opera of sorts and I would
not be surprised if more women come forward.Resign and let us enjoy
the soap opera without the worry that you are still hiding in public office
embarrassing the GOP and the State of Utah.
The lady first blackmailed the guy decades after the incident, while she herself
having a "pill porblem". Then now she wants this guy to go down. Guys, just be
loyal to your wife and what you believe, and such thing will never happened to
What a tangled web we weave when we first practice to deceive.
Rule #1 - Never go into a hot tub naked with someone when you are married (other
than your spouse); andRule #2 - Never go into a hot tub naked with someone
who is a minor...NEVER!!These rules seem basic, but I guess you have
to spell them out for some people.
If Deseret News knew about the incident, why did they cover it up?