Comments about ‘BYU first, Harvard second on U.S. News & World Report's enrollment-percentage list’

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Published: Thursday, March 11 2010 12:00 a.m. MST

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Utah #17

I wasn't going to bring Utah up, but since BYU haters and mormon haters feel the need to respond let's clarify that the reason Utah is #17 is because many of them prefered BYU but wasn't accepted.

Johnny Moser

I think that the real issue when you compare the top 10 and 17 is acceptance rate. When BYU gets to the point that it is approaching the single digit acceptance rate and it still has a 70+% Yield then we can make the comparison that it is in the same "category" and is the same league. As for the 80+% acceptance school, would image that nearly 100% of the pass-overs are in the medical school. So apples to apples they are the "most accepting" organization on the list. They should feel good about getting a yield as high as they have considering they accept every undergrad that applies.

Full Ride?

Dear Student in Arizona:
Please note that a full tuition scholarship is very different from a full ride. In fact, it is very rare for anyone to receive a full ride scholarship for anything other than athletics. The vast majority of schools do not offer full ride scholarships for academics. I am happy for you decision to come to BYU, but chances are you were not offered a full ride scholarship to anywhere.

Florida Ute

BYU Grads are funny!

BYU fan

I'm a life-long BYU fan, but these statistics need to be qualified. BYU is bound to be many people's #1 choice because of the religious angle. But when comparing to Ivy League schools, you need to remember that people that apply to one Ivy League (and have a chance of getting in) apply to several Ivy League schools. Since they are the best students several schools accept them, and they can only choose one. What this study actually shows is that BYU is not aggressive in recruiting the best students in the country unless they happen to be Mormon. This is why they are #71, and Harvard is #1.

AggieFan

I applied, was accepted, and even offered a scholarship to BYU. I went to USU and had the time of my life wearing TRUE BLUE!

Dixie Dan

Given a choice of attending Harvard, Standford or BYU, which one would you choose? I'm not sure who would be my #1 or #2 pick, but I do know who which school would be #3.

justjoe

I went to Utah in the 60's. I thought then that many went to BYU because of its close proximity to Utah. Those BYU girls always came up on the weekends anyway.

The Full Truth

BYU's national image is as an amazing professional-school-feeder, with first-tier professional-school graduate programs and extremely good (top-10) undergraduate professional programs. Humanities/ Education Undergraduate programs are top-100. Graduate Research is not so much respected (top-250). BYU policy prohibits significant $$$ going toward research-school graduate recruiting and has even stated that the First Presidency's vision is not for BYU to be an outstanding graduate-PhD school, but an undergrad and professional school.

I just finished the application cycle for law school (and will be attending my pick of the top five law schools--Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago). During the process the admissions deans made it clear that to them, BYU is at a level comparable to Berkeley, Texas-Austin, all non Princeton-Yale-Harvard Ivy league schools, UCLA, USC, Brown, Duke, Michigan, and pretty much every other top school except for Harvard, Yale, Princeton, and Stanford. This is because BYU's student quality is extremely high, albeit sometimes weird.

BYU is an awesome school!

UofU seems to be the opposite of BYU-- average undergraduate programs, weak professional graduate programs, and very highly regarded and really outstanding research/PhD/MD programs.

Dave (a BYU alum)

I would bet the majority of the resentment here comes from people not being able to go to BYU, (I know, you're going to say you could have gone anywhere, but we all know that's not true).

However, those of you who are already parading around with this new ranking probably don't understand how these rankings work, and how pointless they really are. If you did, you would be smart enough to know the rankings are about as legit as the BCS.

Let's just take it for what it is, and be grateful for a little recognition, and leave it at that.

RE Re don't forget the cost

In the end, where you got the degree is not as important as the fact that you got it. It helps when you got it from a good, respected institution. Guess what, BYU is well respected in most areas. After you get some work experience, that matters more than your degree and where you got it from in most areas anyway.

Also, I can think of at least one area where a degree from BYU is better then Standford (or almost anywhere else for that matter): Accounting, which is what I am currently majoring in at BYU.

Stanford

There's no D in Stanford. Unless you are on the episode of Saved By the Bell where they go to a college that sounds like Stanford.

multi-tasker

I went to eight different universities
BYU was by far the most social
Even though I am not LDS I stil root for the Cougs

Jeff

Two words: academic censorship

jess

to The Full Truth,

As a graduate of the J. Rueben Clark law school, I can tell you that you are wrong.

Eric

I will always be thankful for the opportunity I had to attend and graduate from BYU.

Lindon

BYU will always be synonymous with polygmy.

re: Jeff | 8:36 a.m

One word: Bitter

...watch all the BYU fans

No, I would not say BYU is the Harvard of the west. I would say that Harvard is the BYU of the east, however. :)

Perturbed by Decisions

My three oldest nephews all graduated from high school with ACTs in the 30s and a couple 4.0s, one 3.9something. My dad's neighbor scored a 36 on ACT and graduated with a 4.0 - Sterling scholar candidate in computer science. They have all decided to attend BYU. I wondered why they would all choose BYU when their chances for acceptance to top programs were so good. They all said that they would wait until grad school (professional school) to apply to those top schools, for now, they wanted the BYU experience. I'd suggest that the desire to marry a "nice Mormon girl" played a roll in their choices. At the same time, perhaps it wasn't much of a decision. Their parents all attended BYU and they grew up with that being their expectation - missions, graduate from BYU, then comes the decisions about where to go.

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