Take a look at the Oral Cancer Foundation's website. They list all the relevant
demographic data about smokers in the USA including links to their data sets.Smoking is MUCH more prevalent among the poor and uneducated.
These are the two largest factors in predicting smoking. The next largest is
race but the correlation is much weaker than income and education. The
organization's website even allows you to look at the regression analysis used
to determine the correlation. If you know anything about statistics you could
easily see how much each coefficient affects the outcome of the regression. Their data show that smoking among college educated people making more
than $80,000 a year has dropped to just 7%, the lowest of ANY demographic.
People with only a high school education have a smoking rate of 34%!! I found that information in less than 30 seconds using a widely used search
engine. I'm an idiot?
That's the problem, I've been around far too many people who smoke to believe
that many of them have common sense/decency to take into consideration any
affects they may be having on people around them when they smoke. Most lack
common sense/decency.And no, it is not and should not be their
choice alone to poison their children with their nicotine and carcinogen-filled
air particles. Children need to be protected from adults who lack the ability to
think through what harm they are causing innocent children, regardless of if
these children are their own. They simply don't have the right.Besides, if smokers had an ounce of common sense, they wouldn't choose to
poison themselves much less anyone else.
Let me see, they don't want Federal Government in our lives but they the local
yocals want to push their ways into our lives. I'm not a smoker but anyone with
common sense/decency should could consider what they are doing to their children
but there again the choice is theirs alone. To the idiot that states smokers
tend to be poor, prove that -- people of all walks of life smoke
This is why Im switching to those new Crown7 electric cigarettes!
Why is it that when smokers are confronted with their egotistical behavior their
first response is to try and switch the blame to fat people?It is a
baseless argument?Just because you can not taste food anymore, is no
reason to try and take it out on the rest of us.I have no problem if they
taxed junk food, a better idea however would be to simply stop subsidizing
sugar.The difference is that by taxing junk food, people will be less
likely to buy it and consumption will go down.When it comes to tobacco,
you could tax it into the sky, and smokers will keep buying it.Food is
required to live.Tobacco has no health benefit whatsoever.Smokers
also tend to be poor, and more likely dependant on public assistance.Many
people are bothered with giving smokers food stamps, and then having the smokers
turn around and spend money on tobacco.Stop smoking in the car with your
kids your killing them!
Obesity is a bigger problem in Utah than smoking is. Tax all junk food and fast
food instead of cigarettes which are already over taxed. Ticket all parents who
eat 4,000 calories a day in front of their kids. Kids watch their parents eat
junk food all day long and the kid eats it too. Just like smoking, Kids don't
have a choice what food is stocked in the Kitchen and so must suffer for their
parents bad habits. Obesity is what is lowering AMericans life-expectancy - not
smoking.For you Mormons- Obesity is just as big a sin as smoking is. The
Word of Wisdom says all things should be consumed in moderation. Well if you're
obese you have not followed that at all.
Smokers just do not get it, tobacco kills.Tobacco smoke is offensive.If you do not understand, then light off a smoke bomb in your car.Does
it stink? is it hard to breath?How about the fact that smokers make their
kids stink.Then the kids have to go to school, and smell bad around all of
the other children.It is a very cruel thing to do to a child.
We need to have a Smoke Party like the AMerican Revolutionaries did with Tea.
All smokers of Utah unite and lets break into every store and throw all
cigarettes into the Great Salt Lake. If they want to tax us- then let's destroy
their money making tax. Buy your cigarettes from other states.
Don't let the facts bother you buddy! Smoke up! Just don't ever
blow smoke in my direction or you'll know what hysteria means!
Let smokers smoke as much as they want- all the live-long day for all I care.
But when their right to smoke affects someone else's ability to breathe clean
air and forces someone else to walk amongst their cigarette butts littering
sidewalks, lawns and streets, or to have to keep their own apartment windows
closed because someone is smoking outside, that's where it needs to stop.This law is here to protect those of us who wish not to be affected by
someone else's unhealthy habits- in particular, children in a closed vehicle who
don't really have a choice whether to get in a car with a smoking adult who
obviously lacks the ability to make wise decisions on their own.Go
smoke like a chimney but leave everyone else out of your plumes of death and
YOUR decision to poison and slowly kill yourself.
More second-hand smoke hysteria.
As if prison is the only punishment in our justice system. Seriously, a little
thinking would do you some good. How in the world could anyone defend smoking
@ Jess: Sure like we have plenty of room in our jails and prisons. GET A
It is CHILD ABUSE. The kids have no choice, none at all. Smoking is legal but
poisoning kids with otherwise legal substances is still criminal and needs to be
stopped. Many of my family members smoked while I was growing up and I still
suffer the medical consequences of the poisons 40+ years later. I never visit
them, not even for their funerals. Why stand or sit in a group of smokers to
'honor' them. If they can't quit while the health of those around them is
effected they really don't care about their family and friends.
Smokers DO have a right to smoke. Tobacco isn't illegal and neither should it
be. Liberty is a key part of American culture.That said, your right
to smoke ends at my nose. Liberty has limits. I love hard rock music. Music
has never killed anyone but still I'm not allowed to play my favorite Scorpions
CD loudly anywhere I like. Why? Because society has deemed it better to
restrict my freedom in the name of a greater societal good; namely, the right to
reasonable peace and quiet. Similarly, I have the right to expect fresh air and
not be burdened by the putrid smell of smoke. I'm not even considering that it
may in fact be dangerous to me. The debate about small doses of second hand
smoke isn't settled. I don't care. It stinks and isn't a bit less annoying to
society than my loud music. As for kids in cars or closed rooms -
no debate there. High concentrations of fine particles in cigarette smoke are
dangerous to children. It is child abuse no matter what anyone says. No new
law is needed. Just enforce the existing child abuse laws. Arrest them!
If Utah is a state with the fewest smokers how will they collect the amount of
money they need to make up the budget shortfall?
Utah Legislature: Businesses urged to welcome guns.So now we're
encouraging people to take your gun to work or the grocery store,bank,
anyone?And we're excited to be able to brandish our guns as a show of
force or whenever we like. MLK/Browning Day?But don't you dare smoke in
Your car with Your children cause thats dangeroushummmmmmm
Is this about health or about mormons having a problem with everything the rest
of the world does and trying to control it?
Whatever happened to "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"? Why not just
let people live their lives the way they want to. Most smokers know the risk
when they start and do it anyway so why should they be forced to quit either
because they can't afford it or people "don't agree". To each his or her own!!!
Take away Gayle's kids, they will probably thank you. I would hate to see what
they are like as adults, they probably get beat up at school all the time as
well. Gayle! Stay home where you belong.
You know it's funny. When we were kids our parents smoked. They smoked at the
dining room table, in the living room even in the car where we would be lucky if
they cracked a window. Very rarley did you hear the word cancer and respertory
disease's were far less then they are now. Why don't they quit worring about the
smokers and try to enforce children going outside to play, running, jumping oh
and maybe make it a law that you can only take your kids for fast food once a
month. I mean if they are going to interfere with a parents rights, why not
really make parents be parents. Cook for your family,make kids play outdoors, We
would have a lot less sick and over weight kids. I am not a smoker but let
people be responsible for their own kids. It's the smokers fault that the state
needs to make up money??? lets be real here! Utah has the lowest tabacco use
rates in the country,nonsmoking Housing & apartments alike are everywhere. And
kids under 8 what about over 8 they don't care about them?
I can not believe this! I don't know anyone personally who smokes with their
kids in the car in the first place. But ultimately it is a parents decision. If
this passes, what other rights will they try & take from parents??? They need to
let parents be the parents and but out where they do not belong!!!
I am a Libertarian - for the most part. I believe that the only laws that should
be in affect are those that protect the safety of a country's citizens and their
freedom to live the life of their choosing.However, forcing a child
to sit in a car filled with toxic chemicals is seriously infringing on that
child's right to have a healthy life.Normally, my reaction is to
tell the government to butt-out! Oddly, in this situation, I think they got it
So much for freedom...and Obama is a marxist?!!
Thousands of children spend countless hours marinating in the toxins of
second-hand smoke that wafts in from neighboring apartments or lingers from the
previous tenant. Provo may be the only place in the world where you can even
find a non-smoking apartment. Most families who care about their children's
health have no place to go.A law that would require a significant
separation of smoking and non-smoking housing units would, I believe, benefit
far more children and would give families who care about their children the
option of a smoke-free environment.
Totally unenforceable - BUT GO AHEAD with "nanny state" politics!Do
any of the legislators ever call a highway patrol trooper to ask them if it can
They must be scientist from the tobacco industry said so.The infinite
wisdom of the Utah Legislature...Ban the EPAfrom testing the Air or lack
of it, but pass indoor clean air lawsHypocrites!!!
So, we can't smoke in a car with a child, but Utah continues to have more and
more 'red' haze days?
I like this law... but it scares me.If the Government has the right
to tell you that you can't smoke in the car with your children... what else can
they dictate between you and your children?