Published: Saturday, Feb. 27 2010 1:06 p.m. MST
"Now I understand why Republicans are so against education. If people become
smart, they become liberal. We certainly can't have that."I love
statements like yours because they are flawed in so many ways. If you don't mind
please allow me to add to your ultra-intelligent comment: You forgot to mention
all those well educated immigrants from south of the boarder who vote for
liberals, the inner-city poor with their ivy league universities do the same,
and don't forget the low-income PhD's living in the ghetto. Yep, you're right.
They all vote for liberals because years of education and reading have lead them
to that conclusion.To quote the popular vernacular..."LOL"
"Does college make people more liberal?"I hope so.
"As people do better, they start voting like Republicans - unless they have too
much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good
thing. " Karl Rove
I am amazed at how weak families must be in that universities can change so much
about people- must be a failure in the home to teach anything and give any
foundation that all these blank slates show up to college and we prof. fill
their brains with whatever we like- this researfch is flawed at so many levels
it is just not worth commenting on- notice how it is self published becuase
these results would not make it into a 3rd tier journal let alone one worth
anything- in a tenure file this work would get you denied tenure as opposed to
help you- sad we have all wasted so much time and space on this- worthless at
many levels- interestiung questions that need research but this is not it
To tell the truth, when I left for college, I was a liberal. That sometimes
happens to 18 year olds. When I got there, I met other liberals,
which were a rarity in my home town. Some of those liberals were my professors,
and I still hold high regard for them. But most of the liberals my age I found
to be strange, melancholic, self-important, unintelligent, emotionally unstable,
incredibly dogmatic people that shout a lot. I thought a lot of them probably
had terrible childhoods and never got over the baggage. Once I
mentioned a guest lecture from an environmental scientist that told us that
aluminum recycling pollutes the environment so severely that he doesn't do it
anymore. They actually yelled at me. In a class discussion. They're like those
things on Doctor Who. Luckily I took mostly science classes so there weren't
many I had to put up with. When I graduated, I was a conservative.
Working with state regulators later confirmed my decision.
Many students, liberal or conservative, don't need higher education to construct
a proper sentence. So, the poster at 10:09, missed the chance at credibility
with the name "Why students get more liberal." I believe it should be, become
more liberal. No matter. The author then listed various professions bent on
massing liberals. Perhaps he never heard of these Actors (Charlton Heston),
Musicians (Ted Nugent), Pro Athletes (Curt Shilling), Career Politicians (a
twofer with former MLB player, Republican Sen. Jim Bunning) and Academician
(Bill Bennett went to Harvard--does that count?).But the best was
this gem from WSGML: The only major exception to this is with union members, who
are captive to their hyper-liberal indoctrinating union leadership and fearful
of falling out of step. Huh? What? Seems clear who is really fearful
of falling out of step.
Osama bin Laden is a Conservative.Papa Doc was a Conservative.Every
South African Apartheid president was a a Conservative.Stalin was a
Conservative.Hitler was a Conservative.Dick Cheney is a
Conservative.Sarah Palin is a Conservative.Jesus Christ was a
Liberal.Gandhi was a Liberal.Joseph Smith was a Liberal.When comparing Conservatives and Liberals it is easy for me to decide whose
company I would want to be in.
I'm a college senior, and the two things that have most bothered me are the
students who BLINDLY FOLLOW the viewpoint of their liberal professors, and those
who pretend to be "liberal" (aka secular) only because it is the COOl and
POPULAR thing to do. These students are the exact opposite of what they think
Regard Conservatism = truth. Health care may not be a right but it is a moral
issue. How can we call ourselves a christian nation when millions of americans
have no access to basic health care. What you are advocating is called social
darwinism or everyone for themselves. If you don't have insurance or the money
for medical care just go crawl in a hole and die. The constitution provides
government the right to promote the general well being. Millions of citizens
living in poverty is not the general well being. True conservatism is total
selfishness or in other words let those who don't succeed fall by the wayside
regardless of how hard they have tried. Read the scriptures and focus on
charity. Helping the poorest of the poor is not socialism it is a measure of
the term "Educated Idiot". Sure there are many who think they have a ton of
education from various prestigious institutions, but I found many do not have
wisdom. I'll take wisdom over education everyday. And yes, I have a college
I'll take my Bachelor's degree any day over the "lifelong" listening to Hannity,
Glenn Beck and Limbaugh.When totalitarian forces want to overturn a Nation
and silence it's critics, (whether radical Right fascisim, or radical Left
communism) they attack the COLLEGES, and it's professors and students, because
those citizens KNOW what History has shown to be dangerous.
liberal Larry | 5:38 p.m. Feb. 26, 2010 People who go to college
tend to be more intelligent than the average population. Since they are smarter
there is a greater likelihood they will be liberal. It all makes perfect
senseAgreed and there are a lot of things that can make you "smart"
besides college. Everyone should get to live in Cleveland, St. Louis, detroit or
DC for awhile.From my observation the youth who are born & raised
and then work for Dad and take over the business have the biggest problems. They
may even run the business successfully, but as far as feeling and understanding
what others think and having a good basic for their opinions are often the
worst.The attitude of "DON'T CONFUSE ME .... with the alternatives,
my mind is already made up" is apparent in many.I agree with
the article that we may not change our ideas but we should be open to hear
others and ready to explain our values in an intelligent way to others.To vote for someone because you like red-headed people and nothing will change
you mine is part of that attitude.
Could you start with, perhaps, a less biased title to the article. Yes I am more
Liberal having gone to college, but I see that as a continuation of important
principle of the Gospel, such as feeding the hungry, clothing the naked,
comforting the despairing (to paraphrase from the Savior), or caring for the
widow, the orphan, the disenfranchised as a hallmark of true religion (see the
Epistle of James). Yes, I am more Liberal, because that's what I am taught by
the Prophet, not as politics but as compassion. PS, my degree was in Bible.
Please show me where in the scriptures we're supposed to hand over our money to
the government to distribute to the poor? Please show me where any prophet or
general authority has advocated the government as a good solution to helping
widows and orphans? Because I can come up with plenty of quotes showing that
charity begins at home, not the government welfare office. Remember, we're
supposed to depend on ourselves first, then our family, then the Church, and the
government comes in dead last. We're supposed to be anxiously engaged in good
causes, not compelled to do good.
Having an education is critical, right now the US is struggling to compete with
other countries. And people are arguing if you are college grad you're a
liberal communist. Come on man, its up to the individual who they want to be
not the school. Its all about you, if you want to have a conservative or
liberal attitude. LDS church leaders as well as our President has encouraged us
to get an education. We are falling behind, we need to show our children a
better education programs, make them bilingual, and make them better mathematics
and technology. Its sad when countries like Germany and China are smarter than
I was radically progressive begining in Junior High School, college didn't alter
that for me, it also wasn't the cause. I did meet more people who shared my
views in college, and some challenged me to broaden my interests and concerns,
which made me BETTER.As for becoming conservative with age, hasn't
happened in my late 50's, and my Mormon grandmother until she died in her late
70's, was still a diehard fan of FDR, and would have happily had him as
president another 3 terms.
*yawn*This article is a waste of time. Conservatism has always been
scared of the enlightened. What university indoctrination? This is a myth.
There is just a strong correlation between being well educated and being
@Liberal and LDSAt the time of the writing of the Gospels, Israel was
under foriegn occupation of Rome. Of course there would be no giving to the
government to provide for the poor, it wasn't the Jew's own government, and Rome
could have cared less what became of poor, or sick, or hungry/thirsty Jews, that
wasn't their citizens.
Some of the most heinous chapters of human History is when persuasive leaders
gave a stupid uneducated populace, or a desperate populace, or a frightened
populace, SIMPLE answers to complex problems, many times it was to blame a
scapegoat,(could be Jews, could be gays, could be women accused as witches,
could be Mormons, could be Muslims.)The intelligensia, the educated
citizens QUESTION those simple answers, mobilize against those leaders, then
they are attacked and silenced.
The internet killed religion! Open the gates and let the roman lions out!
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