Published: Saturday, Feb. 27 2010 1:06 p.m. MST
What questions did the survey ask? And did it ask people about their
parent's political views? Political compass org has an interesting
Colleges used to teach civics, economics and the history of Western Civilization
- but that's been gutted at most universities. Now they teach women's studies,
minority studies, and Marxism. College professors overwhelmingly are extremely
liberal - and that carries over into the curriculum. That's well documented.
At many universities, especially in the soft sciences and the humanities, there
are NO professors who are conservative. So we send 18 year olds there, without
any prior knowledge of civics (since the public schools barely teach it either),
they get indoctrinated for 4 years with liberal dogma, and then they come out
thinking they know everything and that conservatives are stupid.
Good colleges encourage thoughtfulness and an openness to unfamiliar ideas.
Openness fosters tolerance for divergent opinions. I don't know if higher
education makes people more liberal, but I do believe it helps them to analyze
and question their own opinions and other people's ideas and to embrace a more
nuanced view of the world.
"if a kid goes to college, they become more selfish, more cynical and more
secular."Isn't it also interesting that they don't learn anything about
"civic knowledge." They don't understand that freedom isn't free. that's
why they become more liberal.
In Alice in Wonderland, Humpty-Dumpty proudly proclaims, "Words mean exactly
what I want them to mean", boldly denying that they have any intrinsic meaning.
That's what Paul Mero does here - "conservative" means someone who agrees with
Paul Mero, and "liberal" means anyone who does not. When you twist definitions,
you can accuse anyone of anything.The truth, though, is that Paul
Mero and the Sutherland Institute promote positions that require a more invasive
government and less freedom for anyone who does not fit his definition of
"conservative". But a larger and therefore more invasive and restrictive
government is actually a LIBERAL position, by any reasonable definition. Paul
can't even define himself, how in the world can anyone take him seriously when
he tries to define others?
Here's the harsh reality; the individual is empowered in the United States by
the Constitution as the Founders believed, and rightfully so, that government is
the greatest threat to personal liberties. America is about freedom, liberty,
and pursuit of happinness. Our rights are not, not provided by government, but
by God. Hence, government has no foundation to take away our rights, nor to
provide them, but rather it is We the People who secure them. Fact= health care
is not a right; social security is not a right, illegals are not entitled,
education is not a right..the only rights we have are those enshrined in the
Bill of Rights, chief among these are: freedom of speech, worship, right to bear
arms (shall not be infringed by anyone or any government), private property..and
you can read the rest on-line.Liberalism = Progressivism = big govnerment
= no personal freedom or liberty.
"Intercollegiate Studies Institute" sure sounds like an objective,
non-ideological organization. Something I learned from my "liberal" college
education was to do a little digging and not readily accept information at face
value. It's website says, "Every study shows that the university is dominated
by liberal professors. It is no wonder this country is currently on a slippery
slope to socialism. Young Americans need to know their history. They cannot
win battles if they cannot win arguments." OBJECTIVE???Its online
bookstore carries "Conservative books from yeterday and today." According to
its website, Ronald Reagan said, "By the time the Reagan Revolution marched into
Washington, I had the troops I needed - thanks in no small measure to the work
with American youth ISI had been doing since 1953. I am proud to count many ISI
products among the workhorses of my two terms as President."Of
course Americans are historically and civically illiterate. We must work to fix
this. But I don't believe that a "test" created by an agenda-driven
conservative institution accurately measures America's students' historic
knowledge. Shame on the Deseret News for portraying this study as newsworthy.
Why does the Desnews continue to use Mero and his Sutherland institute as a
source for all things political? Give a group a name and suddenly they are
qualified to state their opinions authoritatively on any subject. Ridiculous.
That Mero is even allowed to claim that his group is somehow a safe-haven for
independent thought is laughable. Prove it Mero. Give me one documented instance
of an idea not fully capable of passing the conservative purity test that has
ever been given serious consideration in your "institute." An education does not
create liberalism; it defeats totalitarianism.
I'll take your last statement one step further.Liberalism =
Progressivism = big govnerment = no personal freedom or liberty or personal
responsibiliy. Their idea is do whatever you want and don't worry
about the consequences. If it feels good do it, and don't think about the road
it puts you on. Someone else will bail you out later.
Christian missionaries must take Biblical Greek 101.The Greek
Septuagint(the Apostles O.T.)when compared to the JST(inspired Version) totally
refutes, JST Genesis 1-6, Which is where the Book of Moses is extracted from." If the Glory of God is intelligence,Why not use it?"
It turns out that common sense is intrinsically more important than education.
A person with good common sense is a smart person. A person with poor common
sense will always be an idiot no matter how many facts and figures and theories
you cram into his brain. He can't compute. That defines liberals, they can't
compute. They may be educated but they don't understand how to use it. Exactly
describes Obama, for example. A person with common sense understands that he
can also be a faithful person. A person with no intrinsic intelligence will
never have faith and will never understand how to use his education, so it will
be wasted. Education is wasted on the liberal, they still are not intelligent
and they have a warped view of the world.
I kind of like the liberal viewpoint... I've worked for a few years now. I'm not
at retirement age yet, but I want to quit work, so I think I will. So, all you
liberals... start sending your money my way. I still have needs you know... a
new house, a new car, a new TV, a trip to Europe. I "DESERVE" all those things
and I am in "NEED"!
Oops... instead of I "DESERVE", it should be I'm "ENTITLED"!
I went to university later in life, and I am more liberal now than before I
went.University didn't teach me to be more liberal.1) It
taught me to think critically, to examine in depth any argument.2)
It taught me to pay attention to both sides of an argument.I am more
liberal now because I realize the foundations that caused my deep conservatism,
were somewhat faulty. Where it was shaky I replaced it with a more sure
foundation.Now I see truth in all philosophies, conservatism,
liberalism, capitalism and socialism. Its ironoc that in a way I have returned
to my roots, as Paul says, "Prove all things, hold fast to that which is true".
So I guess most of you think that people shouldn't go to college and learn
anything? You are probably the same people who are posting in the earthquake
story that the earthquake and impending tsunami are because of unrighteousness.
Earth's forces are easy to pigeon-hole into "God's wrath" rather
than learning about Geology, Meteorology, etc. Yes, I'm a college
grad from a religious school and I am as liberal as can be. I also work hard,
do not have a sense of entitlement, and understand civics, economics, etc.
Religions want to keep people uneducated, or at least keep them indoctrinated in
their faith. It is easier to control them that way.
Education is a good thing | 11:13 -As a member of an old established
liberal church, I'm wondering if liberal Christians fall into your "unworthy of
education" category also? you seem to assume all Christians are hard line
conservatives, whereas I do not find the actual teachings of Christ to be
compatible with contemporary aggressive commando style conservatism.A Dream Life... | 11:38 a.mAs a liberal who owns a business, in my
fantasy world it would be a land of free flowing milk and honey for everyone
however reality is and probably always will be a 60 hour work week. But if my
investments and hard work pay off I intend to remain just as idle as you accuse
me of wanting to be. Oh, horrors!
Visit the ISI website (link at the bottom of the article) and take the quiz.
How well did you do? Do you consider it a good quiz?
My problems with liberals is not that they are "as idle as you accuse me of
wanting to be"... It's trying to force your FANTACY world ideas on me in the
REAL world.I'd love the world of free flowing milk and honey as
well, but it's not going to happen in this day and age. It didn't work in the
communist/socialist/liberalist USSR and it won't work here either. As long as
the liberal belief includes "ENTITLEMENT, the liberal agenda will only make
things worse.Like I said before... send me your money to fill my
needs. I'm as "ENTITLED" as anyone. If you want everyone to give, give, give...
might as well give to me.
Why do Conservatives seem to always think liberals hate them just because they
don't agree with them? I believe the better educated a person becomes the more
likely they are to take the middle ground and judge each issue on it's own
merit, education makes one more prone to look at many sides of an issue. As the
populace become more educated the more independent thinkers and voters we be
come. People are not being sucked into either party as in the past and are
laughing at the talking heads of TV, both liberal and conservative. People are
thinking for them selves and using their free agency in decision making.
It's a fair statement that education makes one break free of the superstitions
of the past.
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