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Higher education could dip into K-12 with SB55

Published: Thursday, Feb. 25 2010 12:00 a.m. MST

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Is a student required to live in the same district boundries of the charter school? For example, the school being used as an example is in Jordan District, but could someone from Granite District attend or would another charter school need to be open at the redwood campus? Also, does this mean that students at the new district (Canyons?) would be excluded?


Frankly I think all these different schools are annoying and bad for kids. Just my two cents.


Charters have no real boundaries. The students do usually need to get their own transportation, though.


Yeah let's start more charter schools.

We are overflowing with money right now.

This is definitely the time to finance more and more "innovation".

Charter schools are what got us into this whole mess in the first place.

If the legislature hadn't made the charter mess, we would be fine.

Instead we are now underfunding two education programs.

Seriously someone needs to get a clue.

Steven Jarvis

Technically you can go to any public school because of the Utah open enrollment act, not just the one next door. As we all know, schools don't want the competition factor so they highly discourage people out of the boundaries to enroll.

Charter Schools are free public schools and are open to anyone. The only downside is that if there is no space, you must submit to a lottery and wait your turn. The best schools have the longest wait lists.


Charter schools do not have defined boundaries. Anyone in the state can attend any charter school, as long as you win the enrollment lottery.

The same is really true of district schools too. If the district school is not closed to outside their boundaries enrollment, anyone can apply to attend. We are an "Open Enrollment" state.

No Tests

Too bad public schools don't have the opportunities like charter schools. It would be great not to have to take standardized tests and to do whatever we wanted to as a staff.


Sounds like a good way to get the best use out of higher education facilities & prep kids for college. One of the biggest complaints on these boards is that Utah students are not prepared for college.

@ Anon 4:50

Charter schools did not get us into a mess. That would be the state legislature. Since you and I voted, ultimately it is our own fault public education is what it is. Think about it for a moment.

Charter schools are a cheaper school model and have a long proven track record for providing both choice and quality to a child's education. This change allowing Universities and Colleges the ability to charter is long over due. Higher education will finally be able to show us HOW to build and operate a K12 school the best way.

Midwet Member

Just another rearranging of the deck chairs on the sinking ship of education in Utah. I find it disturbing that this innovating charter school has so much down time for their students. Psychology, surfing the internet and filling out college applications. What an impressively stimulating academic environment! Here's an innovating idea. Adequately fund your public schools.

@No Tests

Um...charter schools are public schools, and the students there take all the same tests that all the other students take in Utah. I just spent a week giving our charter school sophomores the UBSCT.


Concern - $$$
Innovation and Teaming with colleges - A+

If I had a child going to school in Utah my hope would be to get them into one of these Charter School opportunities or a HS that co-ops with one of our good Technolgy Training School/Colleges. These appear to be the best options in Utah.
Dollars/funding is always a concern in Utah with all of large families. However, public education innovatives such as this one seem to be a superior option for college bound youth.


Charter schools and the legislation that started them most definitely got us into this mess. I didn't vote for Stephenson or any other guy with an R behind his name. R in Utah doesn't mean the same thing as R in the rest of the country.

Charter schools are NOT cheaper. They claimed they were going to be but go back and look at what has happened. Each year they have asked for and received more money. Some of that has come straight from the real schools. Each district sends money to the charters even if the students that attend them are from out of district boundaries.

It is a complete mess and we don't have the money to clean it up.

Charters are publicly funded

Charter schools get their money from the same place as public schools -- the state legislature.

There are other options for students in addition to Itinerus -- AP classes, concurrent college courses, etc. School, as in life, is what you make it. Work hard, take on extra challenges, and you will be rewarded. Many people do not succeed in life because "Success" is really just plain old fashioned hard work and they aren't willing to put in the time and effort.


It's about time we think outside the box when it comes to high school students. Those who are ready to move on should be able to do so.


Maybe public schools will be forced to follow the charter school model(s). Removal of expensive after school programs that don't fit the "mission statement" would save money. Removal of bussing would save money and place that burden on the parents.

Now public high schools try to fit athletics, performing arts, technical education, and college prep into their mission statement. They also must have significant ESL programs, special education programs etc. There are some students in our schools, because of their handicaps cost a million dollars to educate - and the the traditional district/schools must provide those services.

Charter schools have a significant advantage, and parents who can find a match to their child's needs should jump at the chance at getting them enrolled.

Russ K.

This article is absurd. I GO to Itineris Early College High School; neither of the pictures of students who purportedly go to Itineris are accurate. Both are of JATC students who attend the same building, but are students who split their time between their boundary schools and the JATC. Neither engineering nor CNA classes are available at Itineris, which ACTUALLY focuses on science and mathematics. Search for “itineris” on Google and click the second result for a far more accurate view of what our school is actually about.

Furthermore, this article makes it sound like students at Itineris do very little all day. A class or two, maybe, and free time the rest of the day. As if. I have taken about 16 credit hours each semester for the past 2 years, including 17 credit hours over this past summer. As such, my winter break was longer than my summer break. All this was done so I would be able to receive an Associate's Degree at the end of this year. This is not at all out of the ordinary.

Public Schools

Wouldn't it be great if the regular public scholls could just kick kids out that they didn't want? Hey if your parent doesn't spend 10 hours a week at the schoold you can't come any longer. Charter schools aren't public schools in any sence of the word except they get public money. They don't act the same. They don't have to take any kid in their bounderis. They require parent involvment. They aren't required to have busses.

Russ K.

Some students at Itineris have only a few classes to take during their spring semester of senior year. This is simply because they have completed most, if not all, requirements for high school graduation and an Associate's Degree during prior semesters. The few classes they have, then, are either taken because they're enjoyable or because they are required classes not available during earlier semesters.

To imply that students at Itineris don't work as much as those at traditional high schools is ridiculous. Students like Ciara who have "a couple hours to kill" deserve it. 16 or so credit hours for a couple years without stopping is enough to warrant any high school student a break.

My kids have...

thrived at our new charter school, Excelsior Academy, in Tooele County.

My first grader reads at a 5th grade level and is not punished for it. This would not be possible in our old public school system. They would have him read down several levels to allow the ESL students to feel good about themselves.

This is what is wrong with public schools. They cater to the lowest common denominator in academic achievement. We need to advance our brightest and best students. They will innovate and create and build our country better than what it is now.

They are truly the future of America. Why hold them back?

As for thinking out of the box and graduating kids with associates degrees from High School, I say bravo! What a great idea!

Kids in certain provinces in Canada have an option for grade 13 which is equivalent to Freshman, Sophomore college classes. Its about time we compete with the rest of the world.

The old ways pf relying on bad public education systems will not work. We need more excellence in our educational system. Don't stop it now that its working.

Parent of three charter students.

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