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By Orrin Hatch

Published: Wednesday, Feb. 24 2010 12:16 a.m. MST

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Montrose Brave

I deserve a yacht. In fact I deserve two yacht's.

Mike Richards

Mr. Hatch hasn't read the Constitution. He has no idea that Congress has no authority to be involved in health-care. That is not one of the 17 duties authorized by the Constitution.

How long does he have to be in Washington before he learns his duty? He has just told us that he doesn't have a clue about his authorized responsibilities and that he is willing to ignore the Constitution.

He and every other Senator who believes that the Federal Government is authorized to tax us in any way for health-insurance, or who believes that the Federal Government is authorized in any way to provide social services, needs to be retired by the people at the first opportunity.

Mr. Bennett has proven that he is willing to tromp all over the Constitution by sponsoring a bill with Oregon's Ron Wyden.

With two Senators from Utah who are totally confused about their authorized duties, what chance do we have in Utah to have our State represented in Congress?

Orrin clueless

Tort reform savings according to the CBO: $54 billion over 10 yrs.
Public option savings according to the CBO $154 billion over 10 yrs.
The Senate bill does allow states to create their own healthcare system and opt out of the federal system if they can do it cheaper and better.
The Senate bill does allow states to form co-ops together, say, Utah, Idaho, Arizona can group together and residents in those states can purchase insurance from any state within the group.
The Senate bill does allow small businesses to group together to purchase insurance.

In short, the Senate bill contains many elements touted by the Republicans. The Republican House proposal only insured an additional 3 million people and didn't save as much money as the Democratic bills.

Steve

Hey Montrose, what does yoe having a yacht have to do with a fundamental human right?

Anonymous

You forgot the most important step, Orrin.
Dietary Supplements. Lots and Lots of Dietary Supplements.

liberal Larry

Since this whole bogus plan of Orin's is pure fantasy, let's take a look at just one of the suggestions. How about #4, "Let consumers buy health care across state lines." So under this guideline people in New York City could buy health care in Utah and pay low Utah premiums, sounds good right? Wrooong, for this plan to work the New Yorkers would have to get treated in New York were the medical costs are way more expensive than in Utah. What would the insurers do, yep, they would raise the rates for Utah payers to cover the high priced New Yorkers. We need real suggestions on health care not ideology driven, drivel.

MEB

Hey, wait a minute! I thought the Republicans were the party of 'no', and they didn't have any ideas or solutions!?! What's up with some crazy 7 step plan that will help solve the problem rather than add $1T in new spending? There must be some sort of trick in there that pads only the Republican's pockets, and sticks the real costs on the poor.

American deserve

for other Americans to pay their own bills, including health care.

Anonymous

Hey Steve, what does healthcare have to do with fundamental human rights?

Your fundamental rights include the right to work hard in school in order to be accepted to college.
At college you have the right to study 10 hours a day and work 8 hours a day to support yourself through college. Your right will then be to compete in a job market for a decent job because you've EARNED it in college. You'll then have the right to buy health insurance because of the hard work you've put in over your entire life.

lost in DC

Mike Richards, give borin' Orrin a little credit. He did say requiring us to buy health insurance was unconstitutional.

I'm waiting for the lazy libs who were always accusing the repugs of offering no alternatives to Obamacare to chime in again, now that hatch has again listed some of the rpub ideas. The repubs have put these out before, but since msnbc never reported them, the lazy libs didn't know they were there. You can argue that they won't do the trick, but don't say they aren't there.

Orrin clueless | 6:01 a.m. - 2 questions for you

tort reform producing only 1/3 the "reduction" as a public option, is the $54 Billion just from tort claims, or does it include reductions in the needless defensive medicine, too?

Also, does the $154 billion reduction for the public option say anything about the quality of care?

Thinkin' Man

Hatch is on the right track, but even more could be done to attack the core problem -- high costs in the system.

At least the GOP plan does not include a big Federal bureaucracy. Liberals who support more Federal bureaucracy, please answer this question: When you're in debt, do you spend MORE? The nation cannot afford another big, expensive program, not matter how well-intentioned.

Robert

Larry: You make a hypothetical case that may have no basis in reality. Please explain how increased competition raises prices in any industry.

"Orrin clueless:" You list savings of the GOP plan, but not COSTS of the liberal plan, thus proving Hatch's point that his plan is cheaper. Thank you.

Steve: Please show me in any legal American document where payment for health care is a "basic human right." You may want to start with the supreme law of the land (that's called the Constitution).

Organ Tx

I work in an Organ Transplant center. Would you like to know the most widely accepted form of health insurance we have?



Medicare.

wallofvoodoo

We all deserve affordable health care, but we won't get it.

Anonymous

Hatch's solution is to "put states in charge of health care reform"? States already ARE in charge of health care reform. They have been for decades.

DO something!

Hatch, quit grandstanding. DO something already! We're tired of hearing "let's","let's","let's"....Give us reform.

Hypocrisy

"Hey, wait a minute! I thought the Republicans were the party of 'no', and they didn't have any ideas"

They have plenty of ideas.... But none of them work. Tort reform? Yeah.... That sure will solve problems for people with pre-conditions. That sure will make health care more affordable.... sigh...

Anonymous

We should do number one and two and expand medicare to cover everyone.

Mike, your daily lack of understanding of the constitution is getting more and more boring. Almost no one agrees with your misinterpretation of the constitution, specifically the Supreme Court. You are free to keep spouting that drivel and I am free to continue to point out how wrong you are.

RedShirt

To "Mike Richards | 5:32 a.m." you are mostly right. You forget that congress has the power to regulate interstate commerce.

With that power, they can give insurance companies the ability to sell health insurance across state lines, the same as home owners insurance or car insurance.

They can do a lot just by changing some some that would lower the cost of insurance.

Another thing that would work for Medicare would be to privatize it. Privatizing medicare would cut costs because of the losses due to fraud, which Medicare does not fight much.

Anonymous

So why didnt hatch do these things during the many years that the GOP had control of the house, senate, and the presidency? Oh, now I remember, he is a liar and in the pocket of big pharma, big medical, big supplement, and most importantly big money.

More of the same which is less than nothing.

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