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Published: Tuesday, Feb. 23 2010 1:22 a.m. MST

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Anonymous

The legislature is good at shuffling. They do it with money all the time.

The Old Health Teacher

I am sorry, but I just have to laugh!

BYU alum

What we need is good comprehensive sex ed. NO watered down "abstinence-only" stuff which has been proven NOT to prevent pregnancies by several studies now.


Not to mention the STIs that could be prevented. The lack of decent sex ed in this state is criminal.

A compromise

What is being taught now is proven not to change student behavior, in other words it is not effective, it doesn't work.

Here is the compromise I propose.

Stop making sex ed or health a class students have to take. Make it optional. This frees up class time for other subjects, which may be effective or worthwhile.

We shouldn't be spending money on things which don't work.

justwondin

Stupidity, ignorance, and blind faith, win again.

Bot

Abstinence is the only 100% sure birth control. Our Creator gave us the oxytonin hormone to engender love between man and wife, and love between the mother and baby.

When a young woman (or man) is promiscuous, she subsequently loses the ability to manufacture oxytonin, and she can't remain in a stable (i.e. married) relationship, and in the extreme, she has no love for her offspring.

Witness the "dumpster babies" left to die by such young women. Truly a travesty.

Anon 808

Parent that have to send their Daughter to Aunt Becky's house for a few Months. Some time have to do so because they tried to hide Sexual Reality from the child and it came back to bite them.

Years ago my wife and I bought our Oldest Daughter a book called "A Women’s Body The Owners Manual."

How does Not Having your Child Educated help in any way?

We teach our kids if someone touches your private parts to Scream and Tell. Do we tell them why?

I am not sure that kids pay that much attention to Adults in or out of School anyhow. Urban Myth is just so much more simple and fun.

What are you as a Parent Scared Of Your Child Knowing?

My Dad always told me to read what I want, if it was to deep, I would become bored and put it down. Knowledge was Golden it just depended on how you used it.

Lack Of Knowledge, is far worse then to much knowledge.

How do you know what your Childs Sexual Maturity is if you never talk to them about it. Actions are sometimes a cover. Jill Calls Bill empty house.

Anonymous

THe legislators did not want kids to know more they do themselves, plain and simple. That is why they defeated this.

to BYU Alum

Right on.

Dave

I have to agree with BYU alum and the old health teacher. the lack of sex ed is not only pathetic but also laughable in this state. my parents knew their responsibilitiesand took the time to give me and my sister a very long talk on the birds and the bees. since my Dad licensed hospitals and was also a RN it was a painfully long and in depth discussion but it did get the job done. here is one example of sheltering your children too much can do. my friend's husband was sheltered from the sex talk all teenage and partial adult years. that was until his wedding day when his mom finally decided to drop this bombshell on him of what is expected to happen on the honeymoon just before they got in car and left. he was so freaked out that nothing really happened on the honeymoon and thats just sad. you should not be afraid of your own honeymoon. parents do not shelter your kids from "the talk" because you cant. besides wouldn't you want them to hear the facts from you instead of someone else.

DennyG

What do you expect from a group of LDS men trying to make an attempt at understanding something they know nothing about.

Caleby

On line sex-ed is actually a great idea. Parental involvement can be as much as each individual parent desires and Planned Parenthood can put whatever stuff they want out there and it would be up to the parents to decide how much to view.

Or, have the classes in the evenings with parental attendance mandatory. Different classes could be offered to suite parents needs.

Unlimited education during school hours with a single teacher and a room full of teenagers with raging hormones is simply not a good idea.

@ Bot

Would you please provide the name of the study where you got your information?

Midwst Member

Anon @ 5:24 -- Thanks for the laugh to start my day!
I agree with those who say that knowledge is power. While I support, and practice, the teaching of chastity to my children, I also support a comprehensive approach to sex ed. After all, aren't we trying to teach them how to be adults? Celibacy is the only way to be 100% safe from unplanned pregnancy and STDs, but at some time in their lives, most people will use some form of contraception. I think that there's value in learning these things in a neutral environment. When my daughter went in for her pre-marital exam and contraception counseling, the doctor she spoke to gave her false information, because the doctor had her own political agenda. My daughter went to a 2nd doctor and her experience was a positive one. What if my daughter hadn't had independent knowledge that the first doctor was pitching an agenda? Knowledge is power. Teach your children about what's truly good about human intimacy, instead of just "NO!" If you want them to behave responsibly, teach them how to be adults.

uncannygunman

Seems like most kids nowadays probably already get their sex ed online, wink wink, nudge nudge. The idea of "official" online sex ed is actually kind of humorous to me--what could possibly go wrong!

slgs5

As and educator and a Counselor, I find this very sad. Remember educators, you can't say the word "condom" in school, that is a Baaaaaaad thing.

wallofvoodoo

Why do we have to take taxpayer money (which we don't have a lto of right now) to do something parents should be doing?

Voice of Reason

FACT: Utah is one of the stricter, more conservative States on sex-ed in schools.

FACT: Utah ranks at the bottom for number of STD infections in literally every major category.

FACT: This is a trend across the country - the more conservative the sex-ed, i.e. the more emphasis placed on abstinence, the lower the State is in STD infections and unmarried pregnancies.

Many of these posts repeat the tired old liberal myth that just throwing up our hands and surrendering to teen hormones by telling them all about how to get & use birth control is not, repeat NOT, a recipe for good sexual health. You might as well figure kids will try sniffing hairspray anyway so heck, tell 'em where to get it & how to do it with friends around so you don't die, etc. NO!!! You tell them NOT TO DO IT!!! With sex you do the same thing - wait until you get married.

This all doesn't mean NO sexual education, but overall we know the permissive liberal pattern fails. Across the country. We know this conclusively from cold, hard statistics.

Instereo

I just love how our legislature deals with problems. The pass a resolution that denies global warming (like a law in Utah is going to stop it) and they won't even discuss sex ed (like silence will stop kids from "doing it")

Pagan

'Abstinence is the only 100% sure birth control.' - 9:42 p.m.

BYU alum, and yet every 6 seconds, someone in the world is not practicing abstinence. Even bishops are allowed to have sex, correct?

Do you think your child will be special?

I doubt it.

Wallofvoodoo, many parents simply do NOT teach their children about sex. Preferring to create more problems by only teaching absitnence as a 'just don't do it' approach to something that was crucial in creating their children in the first place.

Bottom line, in order to HAVE children, odds are, you had sex. To teach your children, the product of sex, that they shouldn't do what you very well did, is hypocritical.

If you support your children being ignorant, you are responsible for the problems they create because they did not know better.

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