Re. not very impressive.Please you've got to be kidding me. Nielson has
been tearing it up on the field since his freshman year. and him getting "shut
down" hint hint is absolute Bull. This kid is better then any lineman in the
entire 3A catagory and in my opinion one of the best lineman in the state of
Utah.Keep it up Nielson
Daniel, who goes by "Goma" was one of the laziest players on the Hurricane
football team, and got shut down by a 5'7" 155 lb LINEMAN from Juan Diego in the
3A state title game. Its funny how the U thinks that'll translate into the kind
of player they need. As a Hurricane Alumnus, I see this as a
monumental thing for the school, to finally contribute a player to a D1 school.
But as a BYU season ticket holder, I find this quite comical.
Way to go GOMA! Make us even more proud of our town, ur an awesome kid, on
field, on the mat, and esp. at the Lake! We wish you all the luck in the
"LB's and CB's have unbelievable depth and talent...just need playing time."Hope to see Conroy Black (saftey) play this year. He ran a 4.2 40.
Could be the fast player in college football.
Coach Whitt has put Utah football on the map and it is going to be a fun
journey. Thanks for choosing the Utes, coach!!
Never have the Utes had as much depth across the board. D-line will be the best
in the MWC. LB's and CB's have unbelievable depth and talent...just need playing
time.Don't expect the word "rebuild" being used ever again. Reload
is more appropriate.We'll need our A game for the Pitt,ND and TCU
games but no question we'll have the talent to win. GO UTES!
"Keep your eye on the Y."I'll take a U over a Y.Thanks
Welcome aboard Daniel. I look forward to seeing your talent out on the field!
To: BlueNtheFace | 1:00 p.m. If there is a shift in the recruiting
strategy that Utah employs, so be it. If they are taking a hybrid approach with
what they have done in the past and early commits, so be it. If nothing has
changed in Utah's approach, so be it. What does it matter to you?? Your
perspectives are juvenile. The first time Mendenhall says "we
didn't execute" you will be all over him for never making any changes.
Mendenhall doesn't learn and he loves it when BYU fans don't like what he's
doing. Take a hike to visit the glass football that makes you feel
like you have a self esteem.
Why all the hate, Ute fans? Welcome to the 21st century in recruiting. K.Whit
was wrong and now has changed. He thought he'd use up his scholarships too fast
and miss out on better recruits closer to the signing day. He was wrong. He
missed out on some great instate recruits. He got this kid by signing him early
- it's not rocket science. Sheesh.Keep your eye on the Y.
"Like I said, Utah, under Whittingham, has had 1 great season and 3 average
seasons. BYU has had 4 pretty dang good seasons. Period. That's what's relevant
now." Funny that you would call Utah's 10 win season average but
BYU's 10 win season "pretty dang good". That's BYU's kool aid for ya.
Actually, whether the coach was meyer or whittingham, the team was still UTAH.
Why don't you get that through your head. Lavell Edwards is long gone, so by
your logic BYU no longer has a national championship right? You are an idiot.
Actually Utah has had 1 great season and 3 average seasons under WHITTINGHAM.
Meyer is gone now! Get that through your heads.BYU has had 4 REALLY
good seasons. 8-5 and 9-4 is not on par with 11-2. If you want to track the
whole ball of wax then BYU has had one greater season than Utah has ever had,
another great season in '96 with a New Years Bowl Victory, and another great
season with the Detmer victory over Miami, and then like 30 other really good
seasons along with that.Prior to this century, Utah had NOTHING.
Maybe a few good seasons under McBride in the 90's but that's it.But
who wants to go over the "irrelevant" past anyways. If you want to focus on
what's relevant NOW, look at the CURRENT COACHES. Like I said, Utah, under
Whittingham, has had 1 great season and 3 average seasons. BYU has had 4 pretty
dang good seasons. Period. That's what's relevant now.
I'll agree with your definitions of good and great seasons. So in the last seven
seasons, Utah has had 2 great and 2 good seasons. BYU on the other hand has had
zero great seasons and 4 good seasons. I'd take Utah's success.
U care!But, you have no legitimate rebuttal, because my definitions
for "Good" and "Great" seasons are so obviously accurate.
"if Oregon picks up a couple of DT's while he's on his mission and he may very
well end up in Utah anyway."So what your saying is if the
Ducks get better when he's away he'll come crawling back to Utah? Yea, I'll
agree with that.
From both a talent and character perspective, Nielson is an outstanding fit in
Utah program!!Welcome to the "U" Dan!
To: BlueNtheFace | 10:04 p.m. What a stupid comment. Utah got early
commits last year as well. You think getting Nielson as an early commit
represents an overall shift in recruiting strategy? You think that getting
early commitments like BYU results in a better recruiting class? If you
answered 'yes' to each of the above, given the high quality class Utah brought
in under a less effective recruiting strategy can you imagine what Utah will
bring in under what you would consider a better recruiting strategy??Regardless of the strategy Utah uses going forward, Mendenhall is already way
behind and is likely wearing his baseball cap even lower to completely cover his
"The Y and other big name schools have been raking in early verbals for
years."That's funny given the fact that BYU lost BIG TIME on
Nielson. Your point is??You made the right choice,
Dan...welcome to a great program, school, and all around college experience.
Welcome to Utah!!Great pick up Utes!
"Anyway, how would you like the crow? Cold or warm w/ a scoop of vanilla ice
cream on the side?"You just may be the most bitter and pathetic kewg
to date. You really need to get over the fact that Whit choose the Utes over
BYU. Just as the Pac will choose the utes over the Kewgs.It's just
how the real world goes.
So are Ute fans and Kyle W. now convinced that early commits are the way of the
future in recruiting?? (5 years later.. LOL) You've learned a lot
Utes. Give credit where it's due. The Y and other big name schools have been
raking in early verbals for years. All that time Kyle has been squawking that it
was a bad practice, that locking them up that early is a bad risk. Look up the
articles circa 2005, he said it.Anyway, how would you like the crow?
Cold or warm w/ a scoop of vanilla ice cream on the side?Go
If you can't beat (the BCS System) 'em... Join 'em!!PS. Pac 10 fan
who "owns utah"... The only reason Oregon got Heimuli was that they have no
players at his position.... translation... the Utah schools had to much D line
depth. Stanford got some kid too... what was his name??? Oh yeah, it doesn't
matter!!! He's playing football for stanford, we'll never hear his name again
anyway. Oh and as far as the Heimuli thing goes... if Oregon picks up a couple
of DT's while he's on his mission and he may very well end up in Utah anyway.
Actually, there are also other accurate statements posted here about the
possible Pac-10 expansion. Specifically the ones by "hypocritical",
"re:hypocritical", and "re:joker" all make good points like Ute fans boasting
about how they're going to get into the Pac-10 and become part of the BCS after
they've hated and despised the BCS so much; that BYU does get bigger tv ratings
and fan following than Utah but neither could end up getting invited; and
neither school should want to join a BCS conference anyway. The MWC is getting
better all the time and the schools should keep pushing for a playoff instead of
giving in and joining the "enemy".
Two words for you: Who Cares!More worried about putting Utah down
and trying to find some stat out there to show how BYU was or is better than
Utah. Whoever you are, grow up!
Yup Goma is a stud! Really good at football & wrestling. I feel sorry for his
oponents coz he don't go down that easily! But the good thing is that he's
really nice off the field/mat. I think The Utes' got themselves a good one
there!I heard his younger brother is a great ball player 2.
Finishing in the Top 25.
Actually, I'd define a great season as finishing in the Top 10; in which case,
Utah doesn't even come close to BYU in all-time number of great seasons.Please don't infantile as to say that Utah fans wouldn't consider a
season in which the Utes finished in the Top 10 a great season.
about PAC 10 expansion. My you uties are easily distracted!
would a kid recruited by Stanford and Princeton want a ute degree...Something is
fishy about this story..did he have any other "offers"?
Dang!I hear this kid is a stud and Azata could be the best player in
the state. I'm a Cougar fan but I have to give it up to Whit. Let's hope Bronco
has something up his sleave because we could have really used these two guys.Go Cougars!
Wow a kid who had interest Stanford and Princeton and Utah won out.Funny how you're not hearing much from kewgs...Crickets crickets
It's amazing how an article about a solid recruit produces a bunch of comments
about PAC-10 expansion and what that means for either BYU or Utah. If I recall,
the big guy of the PAC-10 only said they were studying the possibility of
expansion. Possibility is a long ways from probability. We might want to see if
expansion happens before any of us make definitive statements about who the new
teams are going to be. The only accurate statement I read here is from CaseyA
(3:54) who pointed out that BYU and Utah are a matched set, joined at the hip.
Personally, if the MWC can keep TCU and maybe get Boise State, the
two schools would be foolish to jump conferences. Even without BSU the
conference is on the verge of joining the BSC when the next opening comes up.
GOMMA BUDDY! You are going to do awesome up there at the U. It's good to see my
fellow class mate succeed in football. State championship for Hurricane next
year, then on to the BCS! Congrats again bro.
I love that Utah got a commitment from a guy getting recruited by Princeton and
Stanford, even though they're not necessarily football powerhouses (Stanford is
decent I guess). That means this kid is all sort of intelligent, and that will
make him a much better football player. He's a big boy with a good head, i like
that combination on offensive line!
You guys are all up in the night. BYU and Utah, if they go somewhere, will go
there together. They may go to the Pac, they may go to the Big XII, or they may
stay in the MWC and drag it into the BCS buffet of large dollars for bad
programs. Regardless, these schools are joined at the hip. You may all hate
the fans of the other but the school administrations and athletic departments
are closely knit.
And here's one little fact you're missing completely: The Pac-10 wants to
increase their TV market share. Adding only Utah and not BYU would not
accomplish that in the Utah TV market because BYU gets much higher ratings and
basically owns the TV market in Utah. And besides, the TV market in Utah isn't
all that big anyway so it may turn out neither BYU nor Utah will get invited to
"sorry ewes, one great season in four just doesn't cut it"One great
season (I'm assuming you're talking about the undefeated BCS busting sugar bowl
season) is better than no great seasons for the Y since a great season is
defined by you as going undefeated.
You say 3 of the last 4. I say BYU has won 3 of the last 8. Why only pick the
last 4 years. If you want to do an overall history, we can. But I don't think
you'd want to do that, since Utah dominates.
3 of the last 4 versus the ewe4 Top 25 finishes to 24
10+ win seasons to 22 MWC championships to 1sorry ewes,
one great season in four just doesn't cut itBYU > Utah
Don't worry, he will be after he returns from his mission.
You're comment is absolutely 100% right on! I as a Ute fan have a hard time
believing how my fellow Ute fans are acting about this possible Pac-10 expansion
thing when we shouldn't want to touch it with a 10 foot pole. We're getting
sucked in by this annoncement and the better Non-AQ teams could lose any hope of
ever getting a playoff system to determine a true natinal champion if they get
gobbled up by the AQ-BCS conferences. Just say NO to joining the Pac-10! Give us
Come on Bronko! your falling behind. This guy should be in Blue and White.Go Cougs!
Ha another player who isnt good enough for coach brocno.
It’s always so sad to see Cougar fans throwing out stats at how they
dominate this BCS team and dominate that BCS team. But sadly, at the end of the
day they never get invited to join. I wonder why that can be?
Yup, BYU, as an entire institution is hypocritical because some of its fans
would love joining a BCS conference. That's as ludicrous as Max Hall's
statements about U. The University of Utah is a classy institution with A FEW
classless fans. Brigham Young University is a classy institution with A FEW
classless (or hypocritical) fans.Also, last time I checked, no
invitations were made or accepted for any conference expansion, so how do you
know BYU is "stuck in a Mid Major and the Utes are moving up to the Big Time."
I don't doubt that Utah might move to the Pac 10 without BYU but I certainly
wouldn't gloat about it at this point b/c it's a long way from happening and may
not happen at all.
"could understand why a UCLA cub would not want Utah or even BYU in the Pac-10.
They get destroyed every time they come to the State."Your right.
What's the point. We'd stand of chance of getting beat and we get nothing a
value back. It's kinda like why we try hard in not scheduling MWC teams. Big
risk little reward.
September 13, 2008BYU 59UCLA 0The second worst
loss in UCLA history, topped only by September 28, 1929USC 76UCLA 0
"I think the powerful pac10 could lobby for a championship game with only 10
teams."The "powerful" PAC 10 can spin their wheels all they want to
unsuccessfully lobbying for an exception.They're wasting their
breath if they think the NCAA is going to change the rules for them.Meanwhile the Big Ten will expand to 12 teams and initiate their own
chamionship game; joining the ACC, Big East, Big 12 and SEC.The
"powerful" PAC 10 will fall even further behind the other BCS conferences,
barely ahead of the MWC, which is poised to become a BCS in 2012.
hypocritical= BYUIf the Pac10 made goo goo eyes at BYU don't tell me
you all wouldn't be stepping over the MWC.Just be honest and not
bitter because your stuck in a Mid Major and the Utes are moving up to the Big
I don't know if you can say always, the 90's were the opposite and coach of the
decade Carroll is now gone.Wait and see how things play out with
I could understand why a UCLA cub would not want Utah or even BYU in the Pac-10.
They get destroyed every time they come to the State.UCLA will
always be in USC's shadow in football and it is only a matter of time before
Newweasel damages the program.
It's so hypocritical of utah fans to want to join the Pac-10 and to desire it so
badly that they are convincing themselves they have a realistic chance of
getting invited.Why hypocritical? Think about it. This is the
program that has been screaming "BCS IS UNFAIR!!! We want a PLAYOFF system!!!"
And getting their congressmen involved in the fight for truth, justice, and the
American way (i.e., follow the money).And now the Pac-10 drops one
little word on the press - "expansion" - and utah fans are tripping all over
themselves saying "Pick us! Pick us!" and wanting to become part of the
oppressive system that they loathed to the Nth degree only a few weeks ago.So sad. And comical too.
I think the powerful pac10 could lobby for a championship game with only 10
teams.Look, it's about revenue and I don't think it makes any sense
adding a program unless it brings more or equal than it takes out.
Why would the PAC 10 want Utah? Well let's see 2 BCS wins the past 5 years, 9
consecutive bowl wins (many over PAC 10 opponents). It would be a good match for
the schools travel wise and allow them to add a championship game which would
mean millions of dollars in TV revenue and exposure.I am not buying
Texas or Texas AM leaving the Big 12. Texas/Oklahoma have owned the Big 12 and
aren't going to leave anytime soon.
"Bottom line is if the Pac 10 needs a championship game then just have a playoff
game with the top two finishers. Problem solved."Obviously you don't
follow college football enough to know that the NCAA REQUIRES TWELVE TEAMS in a
league in order to have a playoff game.Texas isn't coming.Colorado isn't coming.So the PAC 10 basically has Utah, BYU, Boise
State, San Diego State, Fresno State and San Jose State to choose from in order
to expand to 12 teams and have a playoff game.Unless the PAC 10
wants to create a California division, Utah and BYU are the obvious choices in
terms of economics and overall athletics.
The only team in Utah that would help the Pac-10 make money is BYU and that is
what the expansion talk is all about. Since some of the presidents
will vote against inviting them, that means Utah is out too since BYU is their
natural rival, which is important to the Pac-10 structure (and also because of
the UofU's strong LDS influence). BYU owns the tv market in Utah compared to the
U and that is what the Pac-10 wants, tv markets. So most likey they'll look to
other teams IF they decide to expand at all. Utah fans, don't count
your chickens before they hatch cuz you're only setting yourself up for a huge
The Pac 10 gets one or two of the best recruits from Utah every year. How is
that "owning" Utah?
The $$ generated with a conference championship game, the potential revenue with
TWO BCS game teams, plus the money of the SLC market (which is bigger than any
other market they could break into by expanding) would be enough to warrant
adding a Utah school or two (if there are NO OTHER expansion options). The Pac
10 just needs two sensible teams, because the money will work out, and Utah is
one sensible team. BYU definitely does not make sense for the Pac, not because
they don't deserve to be in a BCS conference (they are as deserving as the 4 or
5 non-BCS schools in the expansion mix), but because they don't make sense to
the Pac 10. I wouldn't be surprised to see Utah in the Pac 12 and BYU in the
You have to have at least twelve teams in your conference to have a championship
game. The question would be, would the revenue of the game, from both the game
and the TV deal, be enough to offset splitting the revenue by two more teams?
re:re:big daddy ute.I understand what you are saying about dividing
the pie by 12, that's why both BYU and Utah won't get the bid. With a Pac-12
adding Utah and Colorado you get the 31st and Denver which is top 20. Couple
that with a new tv contract and a championship game, I think the pie would be
big enough to compensate for the smaller piece.
"So again, I ask, why would the Pac 10 want the state of Utah?"Because - and this speaks to the current sad state of affairs in the PAC-10 -
either Utah or BYU would improve the quality of football in your conference.
Sorry, but dogs like the Washington schools, Stanford, Cal, and UCLA are really
dragging the PAC down.Another reason is that Utah & Colorado would
make the PAC 12 teams, which they need in order to have a conference
Understand your point Bid daddy,But the revenue generated by picking up
the 31st largest market would be more than offset by having to divide total
revenue into 12 pieces instead of 10. Utah is a good school but I don’t
think it adds anything equal or better than what the Pac 10 already has. Plus
it would offer Utah access into Pac10 recruiting circles — why would we
want that? The Pac10 already owns Utah recruits, except for the overboard
religious kids. Don’t even get me started on BYU — way way, way too
much baggage.So again, I ask, why would the Pac 10 want the state of
This kid sounds like a great player - the wrestling experience will be a big
benefit. I'm excited to see him join the Utes.re: bruins - you're
half right. The PAC 10 will pass on byu. They don't fit academically or
culturally into the PAC. Look for Utah and Colorado to get invitations within
the next few months. That should help Utah land some pretty good recruits next
Re: Bruins, Why not the SLC market. Whether it be one or both schools. 31st
largest market in the country and growing. Texas is not coming west. Utah and
BYU would both improve the quality of athletics in the PAC 10 today. Oh, by the
way, when was the last time your Bruins, and I am assuming you are a UCLA fan,
sniffed a BCS game. You are a bag of hot air.
Personally I think the Pac 10 will pass on both BYU and Utah. Why bring in this
insignificant market and then split the over all pie twelve ways?? The current
Pac 10 members will actually be losing money, losing recruits and losing
prestige. I only see Texas/Texas Am as a viable option.Bottom line
is if the Pac 10 needs a championship game then just have a playoff game with
the top two finishers. Problem solved.
Building a powerhouse. Watch out Pac 10 ... I'm smelling roses!!!
Rivals has the list of targets the Utes are after in 2011. If they could land
even 5% it would be HUGE.Most are 4 and 5 star studs. I wonder how
the Pac 10 talk plays into recruiting??
I love the start the Utes have gotten on next year's class. With Nielson,
Asiata, Fakahafua, and Robles the Utes have a foundation for a great class.
Welcome Daniel to the Ute family.
Welcome to the U. You have made an excellent decision young man.
Congratulations to Daniel! We are so excited for him as this couldn't have
happened to a nicer young man.
perfect, this kid can play.go UTES!!!
2011 class is adding a lot of beef to the OL. Keep'm coming Utes!!