Comments about ‘Judge who ruled against intelligent design speaks at UVU’

The more educated I become the less I believe in a divine creator. I don't begrudge others who choose to believe, and I would hope they would be respectful of me too. The crux of the ruling was a group of people who wanted to force their religious views on other people's children. That was why the ruling was correct and the constitution upheld.

In the staff lunchroom I was asked where in the curriculum was evolution taught by a middle school history teacher. It isn't really spelled out IN the State curriculum for the elementary levels. 5th grade should cover the subject when they learn about adaptations, but it isn't required. Growing up in Utah, I only learned about evolution as part of a High School AP History course. While I don't buy into parts of Evolution theory (we need more concrete data), enough evidence disproves the notion of makind only being here 6,000 years or so.

The Earth is about 4.5 billion years old. Mankind millions. There really isn't much to prove.

Young-earth creationism (which holds the bible as being both literal and correct - thus earth only beint about 6000 years old) is only one interpretation of Intelligent Design.

I've had the opposite development with my continuing education that Monkey Boy seems to have had. The more I read and study the stronger my view is that a god does exist, both philosophically and scientifically.

I am a believing Christian but I do not hold that the earth is only 6000 years old. While the various forms of dating the earth are neither consistant with each other or 100% accurate I agree that the earth is much, much older. The evidence in support of this does not deny any existence of a god in the least.

The judge actually got death threats? That's nuts. I guess some people in the state are not reading the book they want to be taught in school. Interesting. Everyone is fallible I guess.

The Earth is about 4.5 billion years old. Mankind millions. There really isn't much to prove.

Careful with that assumption. Blind assumptions have plagued our development for eons. (quite possibly those millions of years... amusingly enough). But as history has shown, as we really start to look at things, sometimes we do find that things are not as they appear.

Not that we are at risk of this, but the universes expansion is not bound by any known speed limit. At least based on our current understanding. It can collapse or expand to any size in an instant. It need not billions of years to be any size. Our concepts of time is really a poor perceptual reference. Not saying either 6~10,000 years or millions of years are correct. Personally my money is on millions. And that's with a belief in God. All I'm trying to point out is careful with your assumptions.

Science has pretty strong evidence about how old things are. The main evidence comes from light, radioactive decay of isotopes and Math. Since the decay is a constant, not a variable we can calculate with fair accuaracy how old things are by comparing material from our Sun, Earth and other Solar System objects. While I have never crunched the numbers myself, I trust those numbers dating our own solar system to be approximately 4.5 billion years.

Bible freaks are dangerous. Proven by the fact that an idea can set them to give death threats and nasty letters.

I do not recall Darwin threatening or attacking anyone for believing contrary to his observations.

Religious radicals need to be locked up since they think that they are acting in the name of a God who they don't even know.

Unconstitutional? Pfft. C'mon, might as well tell the founders that their beliefs were unconstitutional too. Absurd.

The only "blind assumption" made by science is that the universe is rational. There are plenty of counter-intuitive features, like the very large precision of some dimensionless constants, that some people "read" as evidence of a supernatural designer. But that remains a subjective personal opinion, and not something that belongs in public school curricula.

The attempt to shoehorn God in to any gap in scientific knowledge is terrible theology. Over the last few centuries those gaps have shrunk, and for many people God has shrunk with them.

Evolutionary theory is as well attested as any scientific theory. We have directly observed the emergence of new species in nature and laboratories. New technologies allow us to track the cell-by-cell, gene-by-gene, mutation-by-mutation development of vertebrate animals, and plants. Contrary to religiously motivated claims, there is no data that contradicts evolutionary biology.