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Published: Tuesday, Feb. 9 2010 12:36 p.m. MST

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Pagan

2nd? Why stop there? Isn't Utah a big state? We have plenty of places to put more radioactive depleted uranium for everybody!
Heck, uranium occurs in nature, put it in my kids school! Nothing bad should happen, right?

...right?

Sold Out

Interesting to know that the State of Utah is now wanting to start collecting fees from the industry to run it's regulatory program, something brought up in the legislature Feb. 1. Something is starting to smell funny, is it just bad timing or more than a coincidence?

ground water

almost all containers break down in a human life time so all of these products will end up in ground water. the next groups of down winders will be down hillers. but as long as the rich are getting richer it will keep on happening.

Beware of the Camel's Nose

1. Foot in the door - a persuasion technique
2. Slippery slope - an argument, sometimes fallacious
3. "The thin end of the wedge"'
4. Domino effect
5. For Want of a Nail (proverb) - the claim that large consequences may follow from inattention to small details
6. Boiling frog
7. "Give them an inch; they'll take a mile".

Sensible Scientist

Perhaps we each ought to do a little research before jumping to easy conclusions. The regulations on radioactive waste disposal are very stringent, built on decades of good science and engineering that learned lessons from ignorance of the 1950's. Those things won't happen again; we're too smart for that. Do some research, learn some facts before you accuse anyone of shoddy or dangerous work.

One good reason to put waste in the Great Salt Lake desert is it's a closed groundwater basin; water doesn't travel out of it. Utah's unique geology makes it a natural for this kind of disposal.

TO "Pagan | 11:37 a.m."

Pagan | 11:37 a.m.

You could store this waste in my basement, and my family wouldn't be at any higher risk than we already are from Radon gas (which occurs naturally in my neighborhood). You just have to know about the risk, monitor it, and do what you can to eliminate it.

There ARE solutions. Don't just give up. Don't be a quiter.

The waste must be stored. Why not do it right, in the least dangerous place possible, by people who know what their doing? Instead of just repeating your NIMBY mantra?

Life Elevated

Utah's Life Elevated, huh? Elevated levels of radioactivity, elevated levels of air polution, elevated levels of traffic,.... Need I go on? No, we do not need another waste storage site in this state. Let them go to other states which have generated the waste.

Why make waste?

In the first place...other than medical waste which is genuinely low-level, how about we don't generate more? Sorry folks. We're depending on our fellow human beings to do the right thing, make SURE their sites are correctly and scientifically managed and that's a leap of faith. When it comes to money and profit, well, sometimes we just cut the eensy bitsy corners - no harm done right? Sure, until the doo doo hits the fan, fingers get pointed and bottom line people are sick and maybe dying. We can do better than nuclear power plants and weaponry. How about we focus on THAT and act like sophisticated, thinking humans instead of always being in reactionary mode. As for me? I'm moving back to an environmentally clean, considerate state. I've had it with this pig dump. All the beauty of this "promised land" is being squandered for the almighty dollar instead of in the service of the Almighty. You should all be ashamed. As if ANY of HIS creation was o.k. as a dump.

If its so safe?

Why not leave the stuff where it is?

A concerned resident

If they build another storage facility, I am moving out of Utah. I live 25 miles away from this dump

David Jordan

The hysteria of those who have bought into the environmentalist extremists message is tragic. Don't be lead around like a bunch of sheep. Use your intellect to research this necessary service in our current world. It is better to have all of the low level waste managed in controlled facilities than to leave it in place. As a society we need to deal with these issues reasonably and not emotionally.

Anonymous

'Why not do it right, in the least dangerous place possible, by people who know what their doing?' - 12:23

Please do not insult yourself or energy solutions by claiming anyone knows how to handle a radioactive material, who's lifespan is 4 billion years old.
Utah has already recived 3,000 tons of radioactive depleted uranium last year. This will be tons more. If you want to keep all that in your basement, fine. Have fun.
But do not think that AFTER energy solutions is gone, after the containers break, and after you get poisoned that anyone will know any more about this radioactive material then we do today.

Marie Devine


We cause our problems. Citizens and politicians share the blame. When we go the wrong way long enough, it seems turning the right way is wrong.

We left our plots of ground and natural living to create cities. Now we are caught in them. Our employment lifestyle creates the pollution of air, land, water and food making disease for land, animals and people. It creates war, immigration, social welfare programs, energy crises, reoccurring financial crises, ETC. and we think we must increase jobs.... going the same way that caused our messes.

Back out of employment, return to our pieces of land; choose trees, plants and pets that provide fresh food and it will heal our land and end the world problems at the same time including energy crisis and nuclear wastes.

I do not see how our leaders can change and go the right way without the people calling for a garden paradise lifestyle. I see God bringing down our nation because we do not choose His simple way of freedom; then we will be back to the land where we belong.

Cedarite

Here in Southern Utah, we had an incident a couple of years back with water from San Onofre on I-15 when the people who loaded the water onto the truck and closed the tank didn't take altitude change into account and the top popped off and leaked water onto a rest stop near Parowan, which then had to have it's parking lot bulldozed. At this point, I am not convinced that all of these "experts" know what they are doing when they make such a basic and easy to avoid mistake.

Sensible Scientist

All the "what if" scenarios are covered in design criteria for the waste site. Scientists and engineers can think of "what if they break," too.

Pro-Nuclear

This is wonderful news! If those who are scared of nuclear "material", you should get rid of your smoke detectors as they contain Americum, hotter than EneergySolutions permit. Don't get X-rays at the hospital or dentist office as you are creating radioactive waste. Stop with radiation therapy for cancer treatment as you are creating radioactive waste.

Only then do we not need to build radioactive waste sites like EnergySolutions.

I am also looking forward to nuclear power generation in the mountain west. It will clean our air, provide a stable backbone of power and replace coal as the primary source of American power.

G

"Please do not insult yourself or energy solutions by claiming anyone knows how to handle a radioactive material, who's lifespan is 4 billion years old. "


Nobody created that stuff, it has always been here and it will always be here, except for the small proportion used as nuclear fuel--that will be spent more rapidly. If you're worried about scientists and engineers handling DU, why aren't you worried about the millions and millions of tons of naturally occurring 235/238 U still in the ground? It's in the groundwater, it moves wherever it wants, and nobody controls it.

I see no problem moving around, especially since nuclear plants in normal operation release less radiation into the environment than coal plants (because uranium and thorium have a chemical affinity for coal--you burn coal and you put that stuff into the environment, or you can trap it, concentrate it, and have to dispose of it later.)

G

". Don't get X-rays at the hospital or dentist office as you are creating radioactive waste."

X-rays are not nuclear radiation and so do not produce radioactive waste. Your point is well taken though.

New Slogan

Utah, a Pretty Dumpy State. I don't beleive that becoming the waste dump capital of the Nation can be a good thing in the long run. Nevada fought Yucca Mtn. full force. But the Rubes in our state government will sell us down wind for a few bucks. Funny, when the Skull Valley Indians proposed a second site about 10 years ago suddenly all the republicans in Utah became environmentalists and fought it like crazy, WHY NOT NOW?

Anonymous

'I am also looking forward to nuclear power generation in the mountain west. It will clean our air...'

Can you please give an example of how 3,000 tons of a radioactive material, that will last for 4 billion years will help clean, not keep it as it is, actually CLEAN our air?

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