I'm from Philly and I think trading Korver was one of the dumbest things we have
ever done next to trading Iverson. Korver has the best free-throw, the best 3
shot, a nice post-up, very nice fade-away shot, and he does not miss inside
17ft. Kyle can also dunk, I've seen him attack the rim if the shots aren't
falling. He just needs to work on the Defense. He doesn't have to be Bruce Bowen
but anyone can teach him to play smart D. It not that he doesn't try, he just
needs work at it. If we still had Korver we would be winning by 3 instead of
losing by 3.(BTW he's always the player of the game in NBA2k 2010)
re:No Fan of Matthews: You have got it wrong about Matthews what He brings to
the floor is same as AK. teams have to adjust their attack when he is out there
because of his all out hustle. I am not a fan of Miles unless his shot is
falling he does not bring anything to the table
Can't stand the way Matthews plays. He looks like a windmill out there
desparate to catch the coach's attention. He guts it out to impress everyone
but he lacks skills and shooting talent.
It must be quite a luxury for the Jazz to have a player the caliber of Korver
playing backup to a backup. Just hope it's because of the knee problem because
Korver is way too bright a star to be sitting out these games.
As a back-up for AK, I'd much rather have Korver because he brings to the floor
elements AK lacks whereas CJ is more similar to AK - long, athletic, but a poor
shooter. I'd rather have 2 players with different skill-set available for
different match-up scenarios.
Well I'm pulling for Wesley Matthews. Nothing against Korver or Miles. I just
appreciate the fact that someone can play really hard and really well without
making millions of dollars a year. Millsap was similar in past years. The
players that make less than a million dollars per year that play hard and
contribute a lot to the team are my favorite players. Keep up the great work
Had enough of all this defense talk. Let's see those 3 pointers fly. It's an
exciting brand of basketball. Give Korver a chance to do his thing. Let's
appreciate the shooting talent on the Jazz!
Can't make alot of sense out of not playing Korver. Let's hope it's a case of
letting CJ play to get some interest going for a trade. Korver is far and away
the better player anyone with eyes can see that. CJ pouts when he doesn't play
so Coach must take mercy on him.
You aren't going to get Turiaf for CJ. I'd be curious to see how hard the Jazz
are shopping A.K. right now behind the scene? he's playing great but the Jazz
would like to get out of his contract. I'm surpised his name hasn't come up
I laugh out loud every time I hear people talk about how Miles SHOULD be better,
faster, more athletic, blah, blah, blah. He plays great defense - in spurts -
and then watches a loose ball go by or half-heartedly attacks a jump shot.Korver may be slower, but his effort level is far more consistent, and
he plays smarter basketball. Sorry, that consistency alone makes Korver a far
better defender. Miles has already had YEARS now to actually DO all
the things that were promised, not merely tantalize us with his amazing
potential. I love him when he is on, but I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep
over a trade.
Better defender than CJ even with a bad leg,he`s just a bunch smarter,CJ`s bb IQ
is low low low,5th year in the leaque and his shooting % is down,best years are
already behind him,a miserable failure
I just checked ESPN's trade machine and we don't need to throw in Kofous for the
CJ/Turiaf trade to work.
Right now the Jazz are playing there best defense in years, and yes Miles does
play a relative part in this. Everybody is trusting each other and keeping their
assignments. Don't alter chemistry to put in a streaky Korver for scoring.
Defense is the key to winning. Scoring follows from easy transition baskets and
positive flow. Korver has been attractive to the Jazz for his three point
shooting, and no not in a Ashton Kutcher sort of way. The Jazz have struggled
for years with defense and three point shooting. The front office keeps trying
to fill these voids with one dimensional players. A team can't stockpile to many
of those on a roster.
Korver does hustle but defensively really struggles to keep people in front of
him. If a player brings a lot of other things to the table, then this could be
overlooked on some teams. However, the Jazz don't have the pieces to make up for
Korver's flaws on defense. For example, D-Will is a bigger stronger point guard
who is not the best at keeping people in front of him either. You need shot
blockers or shot altering bigs in the front court if this happens to much in the
back court. Well, we all know the Jazz are lacking there.
CJ/Koufos for Turiaf. Save 1 mil, dump one of our "projects", get a defensive
backup center. GS gets a shooter and a lean pf/c to go with their run-and-gun
style. done and done!
Message boards give a good reflection of mass thought. Some concepts are
commonly shared and some are not. A common theme here in the Jazz
market is that hustle beats all skill. That is sometimes true depending on the
drop off in skill set. Team chemistry and scheme also play a part in how a
players skills can be utilized. I am with the "if it ain't broke
don't fix it" side here. I like Korver but certainly don't think his defense is
up to par with Miles (shocker for some to stomach). Maybe some Jazz fans see
Miles as a little shaky and unsure of himself, but he is young and getting
better. Remember Miles was hurt and recovering from injury as well, this after
coming into fall camp bulked up and more mature. My questions on
Miles are centered on his confidence or lack thereof. Some players you just know
that they are winners and their skills grow rapidly. Others need the right
situation to bloom. Many lose confidence and never get it back (i.e. Van Horn).
C.J. is on the fence but he's worth playing over Korver for his upside.
and see if they will trade Turiaf for CJ. We have too many wing players and
Nellie should like CJ's shoot 1st, think later mentality. Salaries work for
this trade and we'd get a great back-up C/PF!
One more thought,if miles was a 50%+ shooter maybe it would change things,but he
is shooting 39% the worst on the team,that added to the fact that he does
We need for everyone to play a complete game,which includes
rebounding,assists,tough defense,steals,blocks,screens,all miles does is
shoot,that is the problem,he is one-demensional,If we were Jordan`s Chicago
Bulls we could afford to keep a Craig Hodges or Steve Kerr type,we are not the
Bulls,Lakers,Celtics..we need everyone to contribute,CL, you seem like a smart
guy,but I don`t think you`re seeing the big picture
I have been critical of CJ all year for his inconsistanat play. But for all of
you who want to say Korver plays as good a defense as CJ, open your eyes! I
think CJ can and should play better defense, Mathews is getting more time than
CJ because he is playing better defense, but the reason Korver is not getting on
the floor and CJ is, is because CJ is playing better defense. I have often
critisized CJ for being nonshlant, and lack of hustle but he is long, athletic
and is playing good enough defense for Sloan to play him ahead of Korver. If
Korver were able to play defense as good as CJ, he would be on the floor,
because his shooting has been very good this year. Because of CJ's
athletism, length and skills, I expect him to play better than he is and that is
very frustrating that he isn't but he is not the bum so many of you want to make
him out to be. He wants to play like the coaches ask him to, he is just a
shooter/scorer and has that kind of a mentality.
The Jazz will go deep into the western conference playoffs this year if they get
rid of CJ. They do not need to pick up anyone for him. Korver can take his
minutes. CJ has got to go. He takes way to many shots and plays horrific
defense. I hope they are showcasing him to make a trade before the deadline.
Anyway, gotta pick up a W tonight in LA. Dont need a let down and loss to a
sorry team such as the clip joint.
It's simple: Sloan is a great coach, but even great coaches have room for
improvement. Korver is just as good, if not better, than Miles at defense...and
I think he's a better shooter than Miles. Korver needs time and he can take
some from Miles and some from Matthews. 10-15 a game is not unreasonable to
give him. Yoo-hoo: Having a knock-down shooter out there opens up
the paint because it spreads the defense...your case is ridiculously wrong, and
I question whether you've ever played basketball before.
Let him get completely healthy,then he`ll get his minutes at the expense of
miles,who`ll go back to his spot on the pines
All you guys that think Jerry Sloan is some sort of bum are insane. Ripping
Jerry Sloan on a chat board, real impressive. Jerry Sloan was an all-star
player, and if it weren't for Michael Jordan(the greatest player ever) he would
have at least a couple of rings; and all of you really think you more about
basketball and could coach the team better, Child Please!
Lately we have been absolutely DOMINATING in the paint!!Strategically do you need to spread the floor when you are already eating
teams alive at the rim?Don't think so.Sloan plays Korver
when teams are packing the paint and we need to spread the floor. Lately this
has simply not been the case as we have been running Sloans system to perfection
and we have been slicing, dicing, and mincing the opposition....all the way to
the rim for high % layups and dunks.Case closed.
What are the "so many other contributions"? I like Korver. He is one of my
favorite Jazz players. But have you seen him on defense? He can't stay in
front of anyone with his knee the way it is. Even with a healthy knee, he can
barely stay in front of anyone. Who would you propose taking minutes from to
get Korver out there? In my opinion, it's a toss up between Miles and Korver.
And Miles is a better defender and has more length than Korver. They already
have the scoring on the floor, so they need to keep defense out there.
We're all wishing the best for Korver and a return to the Jazz rotation. He
brings everything he has to the game! You can complain all you want about his
defense, but he makes so many other contributions that he should be on the
floor. There are enough minutes to go around at the wing to get Korver out
there. Let's keep Korver part of the team.
Being a HOF coach does not mean you know what you are doing. Say like inserting
Boozer back into the lineup at the end of last year helping us slide to the 8th
seed over the last three weeks. Say inserting CJ back into the lineup this year
and another losing streak to follow. As BP said if ain't broke don't fix
it. But Sloan will always insert a starter back immediately from injury and we
all have seen what it does.
I'm sure you know best. D-News, please make sure that the above message gets to
Jerry somehow, because it's obvious that he's misguided as a HOF coach.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
I normally support Coach Sloan, but I must differ with him on this issue. If
you watch carefully, Korver always hustles and gives great effort. He is
certainly not fleet-a-foot, but his defense is clearly superior to Memo and
CJ.Granted, AK, Matthews, and Milsap put him to shame on defense,
but they can't light it up from 3 point land either...