so if a person is "guilty" then its ok to murder them??! "This is just
another pathetic attempt to justify abortion/murder."aren't you justifying
murder by saying that "less than .05 % of the people who are executed end
up being found innocent"?and therefore capital punishment is ok? try
thinking logically before you start typing next time.
Ok, first of all your explanation is flawed. Second, the difference between
someone convicted of a serious crime and an innocent unborn child is that less
than .05 % of the people who are executed end up being found innocent. On the
other hand, the millions of abortions that take place any given year, the unborn
children is 100% innocent. BIG DIFFERENCE The second flaw in your argument is
that there are many couples and families on waiting list to adopt children.
There is so much red tape to get through in order to adopt a child. Women should
not have the right to murder an unborn HUMAN BEING! If women have the sense to
do the deed to create a child, then they have the sense to take care of the
child. Its ideas and opinions like yours that murder millions of unborn children
every year, Thanks for that one. You can thank the future doctors, scientists,
and many more people that could have made a difference but won’t be able
to because of women who can’t take responsibility for their actions. This
is just another pathetic attempt to justify abortion/murder.
I just love how those that claim abortion is murder, even if the woman was
raped, etc have no qualms whatsoever over the death penalty. Innocent people
have been killed from the death penalty, just like they have from abortion.So how come one is justified and not the other? Contridiction,
conservatives?Then conservatives say that abortion should be illegal
and all these kids will be adopted. Really? By whom? It seems to me there are
already enough kids without homes. And then the government has to pay for these
kids. Romania tried this and it crippled their government.It's
unfortunate that children aren't wanted in our country in the first place. But
if life is so precious, then why even bother with the pill in the first place?
Shouldn't we have as many babies as possible? I know few people who would agree
with me on that one, but you are technically denying a possible life. How is
that ok?These are not easy questions indeed.
Are the same people that are writing about this being a waste of taxpayer money
concerned at all about taxes when we fund even international abortions?
Probably not.The debate goes on and on until the creator comes and settles
the matter once and for all. Until then, I think this is a good thing. A woman
should have as much information as possible before she decides to kill the
Then maybe the men need to step up to the plate and be held accountable then
again maybe the woman doesn't want to be tied to the species that impregnated
her either. Utah wants little government but here is a prime example of too
much government. Until you walk in the shoes of th woman having to make that
decision none of you can understand. We can continue to have babies so we can
send them off to war and thats okay, Thats not murder either. People allow
others to make their choices and let them live with them. How many of you will
take and raise the child?
"The woman has to "choose" to view the ultrasound images.... She is not forced
to do so."For how Long??? You don't this will become a requirement
soon??? Pro-Lifers are already seeing this as a, "maybe she'll come to her
senses" scenario... You don't think it will soon become required??? Remember Pro-lifers... If the Government has the right to tell you *can't*
have an abortion... it has the right to tell you that you *have* to have one.
STOP THE CONTROL!!!
If we make abortion legal, all these unwanted children will be born into
neglected and abusive homes; thus becoming an even bigger drain on our tax
dollars when they are on welfare or constantly in trouble with the legal system
because the parents who never wanted their children in the first place, don't do
anything to care for them at all! Maybe we should take our tax dollars to
educate people on contraception!
This "measure" is no better than a trite little resolution.It is
meaningless.The woman has to "choose" to view the ultrasound
images.She is not forced to do so.This is just
Conservative/radical attempt to stick their camel's nose under the tent in hopes
that they can get their entire, stinky, awkward fascist bodies into the tent
down the road!
I am baffled. If you are Pro-choice, then how does this not provide choice?
The bill only requires the info be provided IF the mother ASKS for it. It is
HER Choice. The Pro-Choice movement doesn't sound very pro on allowing choice.
A better classification would be Pro-Zero Population Growth, or Pro-Death, or
Pro-No Choice, or maybe even Pro-Uniformed and Ignorant. Abortion has always
been a part of our world. If people couldn't kill the fetus, then they
committed infanticide or burnt their infants to death in the arms of Molech.
Whether Abortion is legal or not, the social attitude that pregnancy, birth, and
new life is a mistake and should be fixed by stopping life is at the root and
core of the problems we face as a society. Selfishness vs. sacrifice for
another. Personal desires vs. duty and responsibility. Life is precious and so
is the freedom to choose. Allowing the choice to be informed in the hope of
showing that life is precious IS the most important thing this legislature can
I have just witnessed a young mans life ruined because his (ex) girlfriend wants
an abortion. It is heartbreaking for him. He has begged her to put it up for
adoption, and has no control other than knowing it is his too. She found a place
in Nevada that will do one at five months. Seems to have no feeling???? The dads
should count but....
Offering pregnant females the opportunity to watch the ultrasound of an unborn
fetus moving about inside her body just might scare the mother into going
through with the abortion. Hasn't anybody watched the movie, "Alien"? Where is
Sigourney Weaver when we need her?
to I. I wonder if your mother would have had you aborted that she would have
said the same thing. VERY FEW people are ever glad that they had an abortion.
Even those who are in favor of abortion will admit that its is a serious and
somber decision that they made. Never do people use the word glad when
discussing abortion. You will never know what that child could have meant to
your life or the life of another family had you chosen live over death.
"...and am glad I did it." How callous and selfish. That aborted
child would have been 24 this year, with a full life in front of him or her.
had an abortion back in 1986, and am glad I did it.
"Did any female's have any input in the formulation of this "law"? "Not in this state... they know where they belong.
Did any female's have any input in the formulation of this "law"?
It isn't your choice anymore than the government. The government should keep
its hands out of this.
Abortion destroys the lives of women as well as the lives of children. I know
this from personal experience. I have no doubt that MANY women would change
their minds if they viewed the ultrasound. As it is, those who get abortions
never recover from it. A last ditch effort to change their minds would save the
life of a child as well as the life of the mother.
What is there to see at this early stage??? About the time when a woman decides
to have an abortion anyways, the Baby is still developing and would look less
than human, and so small you wouldn’t be able to see it anyway, ... It's not like they are gonna be havin' these ultra-sounds during the
ninth month. What a waste of money, and Government inference...
Kinda makes you sick to your stomach, to think we can now kill children if so
desired. I would not want my daughter to kill her child if she was the victim
of rape no more than I would want any of my other grandchildren killed. A life
is a life for pete's sake. Killing at will is unexcusable maybe not in this
life, but the taking of an innocent life, God doesn't look favorably on.
that anyone who supports abortion has already been born?
If this "dumb" law saves the life of one unborn child then this law is worth it
in my eyes...Abortion may be legal... but it is still murder!
The medical doctors tell the legislators that current ultrasounds aren't
sophisticated enough to even show the mother that the embryo is viable. But
does that deter the legislators from spending taxpayers' money on useless
ultrasounds? Nooooooo.These guys are just dumb beyond belief. And
wasteful with my money, to boot.
This is silly. What's the point of passing laws to try to prevent people from
doing what is legal?
Another example of government waste.
This also means that abortion clinics have an interest in NOT sharing medical
information with their patients.I have had numerous non-pregnancy
ultrasounds and thorasic x-rays. In every instance the doctor or technician
asked if I wanted to watch, adjusted the screen and then described what they
were looking at and for. This bill doesn't appear to require
providers to volunteer the information, merely provide it upon request which is
less open than the typical medical environment.
Everything possible should be done to help a woman change her mind about having
an abortion. How can she rationalize that it's "her choice" when an innocent
life is at stake. Before the act takes place that causes conception is when the
woman has the right to "chose," not after the fact. Girls these days from the
age of five and up know where babies come from, so... Whatever happened to
self-respect and morality before marriage, and fidelity and unselfishness
afterwards? Of course rape is a different consideration. There are plenty of
couples longing to adopt, but thanks to abortion, babies are not that plentiful.
Seems that giving a baby to someone who wants it would be a better choice than
I totally support this legislation. Women should see what is inside them before
making a decision about life. We should be a nation of adoption for
unwanted pregnancies, not abortion.
What a complete WASTE of tax payers dollars and a HUGE WASTE of our State
Legislatures time. We have so many other huge problems like our deficit and our
unemployment crisis to fix. This bills only purpose is to try and make a woman
change their mind as the congressman said in the article. To all Utah residents
and to all the members of the Utah congress, abortion is LEGAL! Get used to it.
I can't wait to cast my vote this next election against any incumbent who voted
in support of this. The abortion clinics should have the choice to support and
install this in their facility, not be forced to. If this passes into law I
hope the ACLU will fight this and get it overturned.
May God, Help us ALL!
Legislature, please show some compassion to victims of sexual violence. Imagine
if it was your daughter, wife or sister who was attacked. Would you still
thrust this upon her? These women CAN'T sleep at night. That is why
they make the painful choice to have an abortion. This is a bill of
re-victimization. Even in the cases where the pregnancy was just unplanned, it
is not the government's right to interfere with the woman or her doctor's
Of course this is a "transparent attempt to reduce the number of abortions...."
The article even stated such. I don't see how showing a woman an ultra-sound
that she requests is the equivalent to showing graphic pictures of aborted
fetuses outside a clinic. I don't think accurate information can ever be
considered a bad thing when making a decision. I don't think an argument
attacking the act of giving information when requested has a leg to stand on.
I hope this helps women come to terms with the fact that they are killing a
human. But hey it's their body and therefore they should have the right to kill
their children right?I will never understand how taking the life of
another should be the mothers choice. How can these women sleep at night.
Just another way to try and have the mother keep the child. Not with any help
from the groups that supported this bill, mind you. They would tell
the mother to give the child up for adoption. Not take the
responsibility of keeping the child themselves.
This law is a fairly transparent attempt to reduce the number of abortions by
counting on pregnant women to change their minds after seeing an ultrasound of
their living fetus. Naturally there are two ways to look at this: the pro-life
view is that if a woman is confronted with graphic images of the fetus she can't
otherwise see, she will make an emotional decision against the abortion. The
pro-choice view is that this is the equivalent of a protester standing outside
the clinic with graphic photos of aborted fetuses -- in other words,
intimidation. Both views have some validity, which is why abortion is such a
difficult debate in the first place. How many women will "choose" to see these
images, is hard to say; whether any medical providers will somehow "show" the
images to a woman without being asked is also hard to predict. And so the tug
of war over a highly personal issue, between two equally passionate factions,
with vulnerable, pregnant women in the middle, goes on and on.
an abortion, she isn't going to want to look at what is her unborn child. She
will decline the offer, so this is moot. Just another waste of time and
not a bad law at all. let's the woman make an informed decision. and let's HER
make the decision, not the gov't.it's pro-choice, with info. very