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Published: Thursday, Feb. 4 2010 12:00 a.m. MST

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Same old, same old

Hey, let's not rush into treating everyone equally. God only knows where radical ideas like that might lead, especially if the cities and counties start thinking for themselves and adopting their own rules.

These conservative Legislators drive me nuts. They're all for smaller, more local government ... until it's inconvenient, and then they aren't.

Darrel

I get the feeling that because this is an election year...no one wants to do anything drastic...every legislature is afraid of being on the wrong side of a hot issue...great leadership right? I fail to understand the reason behind moratorium on municipalities.
If they don't pass any legislation, does that mean it's alright to decline renting to a man because of what he does in the bedroom? Or an employee? Legislation aside, is it morally okay? Morals aside, does it even matter as long as you get your check at the end of the month, or honest day's work?
If everyone treated each other as they would want to be treated...this would be a non issue, and it would be clear what legislation is needed.

Caught off Guard?

How could these legislators be caught off guard by the LDS church supporting the SLC ordinance?
The LDS church did the correct Christian thing and this caught our state legislators off guard?
Does that mean that our state legislators are not good Christians?
Did they really think the LDS church supports hatred and prejudice?
So now they are going to wait a year until the public has forgotten that the LDS church supports the SLC ordinance and then investigate what to do about the apparent 'gay and lesbian' problem Utah has.

Lew Jeppson

This has a lot to do with the situation inside the GOP. There, politicos are trying to out-right-wing their opponents. As an example, Senator Bennett is being called a socialist traitor by his oppositon (?!). So any Repub who votes for a GLBT anti-discrmination bill runs the risk of being seen not sufficiently conservative. Just a sign of the times.

Let Cooler Heads Prevail

After the Prop 8 public relations nightmare, you know the LDS Church wants anything gay related to be buried for a while. They are doing major damage control in California, and the last thing they need is for a set of vindictive anti-gay bills from Utah making headlines again.

Everyone needs to step back from the brink.

Classic Utah Republicans

Classic Utah Republicans:

We're for limited gov't and local control, unless we don't like what the locals are doing (like this example and RSL stadium).

We believe and follow everything the LDS church teaches, unless it means rights for homosexuals.

C'mon guys- don't be hypocrites like Killpack and Walker. Do the right thing for a change instead of simply doing the most politically expedient thing.

re: Let Cooler Heads Prevail | 1

I am homosexual but I also believe that gay fundamentalists need to do their own "damage control" because their shrill and hypocritical voice, particularly regarding Prop 8, harms the cause AND IT HARMS ME.

Linguist

"Gov. Gary Herbert has questioned the need for anti-discrimination protections for gays and lesbians."

I don't understand this sentence.

Does the Governor question whether the anti-gay diatribes we hear and read on an almost daily basis ever translate into discrimination in society at large?

Or does the Governor believe that it's all right for society to treat its gay citizens unfairly?

The sentence was ambiguous. But either way you interpret it, I think it's unfortunate and blind to what "equal protection under the law" is supposed to mean.

Good

It doesn't matter how high pitched their screams are, standing up for what is wrong doesn't make it right

Libertarian

Why don't get get some Libertarians in office? They will help more than democrats or republicans because they bring real change with them and govern outside of the box when necessary. The 2 major tyrannical parties can't govern out of their little boxes. When you do things the same you never get different results. It's time for Libertarians and freedom lover to take back our government.

Anti-Discrimination Supporter

I am Mormon. I support these anti-discrimination laws. Why not support them? Everyone deserves to be treated equally.

Kevin

"The ordinances had the support of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Niederhauser said that has given lawmakers pause."

Though I don't want to discourage anybody - elected or not - from supporting equal rights, I think it's shocking the degree to which these legislators are in the pocket of the LD Church... and they freely admit it! Our government is corrupt.

Non-issue

People who choose to practice homosexuality have exactly the same rights as those who don't. If they don't like the consequences their behavior brings, they shouldn't choose to practice it.

What Next

I wonder which minority paraphilia group will be next to demand that their lifestyles be recognized because it is their civil right owing to the fact that they were born that way: pedophiles, necrophiliacs etc, etc.

To: Non-Issue

I agree. Each of us must live with the consequences of our choices. I do not favor legal protections for sexual orientation.

Anonymous

What Next | 8:02 a.m. Feb. 4, 2010
I wonder which minority paraphilia group will be next to demand that their lifestyles be recognized because it is their civil right owing to the fact that they were born that way: pedophiles, necrophiliacs etc, etc.

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But we do recognize their lifestyles. We recognize them as crimes. We have realized that they harm others and create victims. There is a big difference between homosexuality and crimes.

Who is a victim in an adult homosexual relationship?

Not Here

Regardless of where you fall on this issue do we want the state telling the cities and counties what they can have as rights for its people. what about local rights and states rights. Do we really want the state involved in local issues. for example Illinois in the rights of our people in Nauvoo. where we quietly practiced plural marriage. We disobeyed Illinois state law on that one. do we want to waste money in raids and events like Short Creek.

Anonymous

To: Non-Issue | 8:32 a.m. Feb. 4, 2010
I agree. Each of us must live with the consequences of our choices. I do not favor legal protections for sexual orientation.

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Everyone has an orientation. This law protect everyone.

not surprised

I'm LDS and am not the slightest bit surprised about the LDS Church's support of the Salt Lake ordinance. The Church doesn't hate gays. It's never been about hate. Maybe now we can start having a real discussion about why the Church would oppose same-sex marriage. I reject the notion that opposing same-sex marriage means I hate a segment of our population. I don't hate. It also doesn't mean I'm a homophobe. (Doesn't phobia mean fear?) I'm not afraid of gays either.
I am, however, very much in favor of traditional families.

You just can't argue anymore that the Church hates gays. You have to make some other kind of argument.

Baptist

It's almost hard for me to say this, but I whole heartedly agree with "Not Surprised". It's not any person or group who's hated. Stop construing traditional marriage arguments into hate arguements.

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