I am not a "Y" or "U" fan. I enjoy the football rivalry because it is
competitive. The basketball games are not. The "U" needs to reload their
Henderson is a hot head. Fans who have watched him all season aren't surprised
that Marshall would eventually lose his cool and do something like this.Marshall is a Freshman; but, that's just an excuse. Everyone starts out
as a Freshman. Very few players have ever thrown a sucker punch.And,
without an apology, I doubt Henderson will learn anything from this other than
to disguise his cheap shots better next time.
Henderson is a freshman. We let him shoot the ball like he is a 5th year senior.
Reign him in Jimmy.
I have read the article and read all the comments. For the record Iam not a UTE
or Byu Fan. The matter has been handle and a man suspended for one game for the
fight. I can understand that their is a lot of hate between the two teams. The
player was suspended for a game, what pently did Max Hall suffer. None that I
know of and a half hearted sorry. I would love to see the two teams get along or
hope they would alest try if not lets suspend both teams reguardless the sport
for 6 months and then try again.
"did Henderson even touch him"?Obviously, Henderson "touched"
Jackson hard enough to drop Emery to the floor and draw a flagrant foul and
ejection from the officials who had to watch the replay in order to see what had
happened because Marshall launched his sucker punch while the officials' backs
No wonder Lone Peak retired Emery's jersey, He is the best actor I have ever
seen! I mean did Henderson even touch him, let alone throttle him to the ground
as emery made it look?! pathetic.
what a surprise. i log in and read the comments and it has turned into childish
bickering. both sides. you are both immature. To ute fans:
Calling it a flop to justify it is silly. Yes, it was a flop. but that does
not justify it. to byu fans: were you so adamant in your
condemnation of Chris Miles for kicking Andrew Bogut? you have to be
fair.....to all: lets just let this die.
I humble and phrase you Henderson I wish you would of hit him so hard that it
would of left an impact crater in his face!!!
Can't to visit the Huntsman to see how "classy" the Utah fans are! How many
"classy" Utah signs will we see in the Huntsman?Question: 10 years
from now, when the Henderson "slap" has long been forgotten by BYU fans, will
Utah fans still be talking about Max Hall?Answer: GUARANTEED!
How many late hits do we see in a typical college football season?How many slaps do we see in a typical college basketball game?Nice
try "classy" ute
It's nice that Boylen went by the book in disciplining Henderson.Since the book didn't specifiy an apology, Boylen and Henderson weren't
required to do that.Nice work coach and great teaching of your young
Funny you are even on here posting about Utah's class? Remember Max Hall going
out of his way to hit Stevenson Sylvester after the play was over because he was
upset he was going to lose. Not justifying Henderson, just saying no BYU fan
has any right to be on here saying anything about this incident.
All of you are a bunch of babies. I can't wait until BYU comes to our palce
March 3rd between max hall and this overreacted incident you zoobs and your team
are going down
Of course he tried to calm everyone down and not make a big deal of it - it was
HIS player slapping the other team because he was sad they were losing. He wouldn't have had the same comments had a byu player been all slap
Utes claim they have class. Then their player slaps someone because he's upset
they are going to lose. Pretty funny double standard
I am a Cougar fan who gets tired of all the back and forth bashing between the
two schools. I have never been a huge fan of Boylen but after watching how he
handled this whole situation, from the moment it happened, I have to say I have
a whole new respect for him. I think the way he interacted with players from
both teams immediately after the incident and the way he addressed his comments
to the media he is a class act. I think he would be a great coach to play for or
to have my son play for.
I think Araujo and Henderson should have a cage match.
FIST = closed hand, fingers curled inward to palm.SO, slap = open
hand, finger extended, making contact to another person or thing.AND, punch = fist (closed hand, fingers curled into palm), making contact to
another person or thing.CONCLUSION, Henderson + punch (with fist) =
one game violation.Quit calling it a slap, the tape is clear it was
a closed handed fist.Class is now over, but classless-ness will go
on and on and on. Max was only calling a spade a spade, and grandma was right
when she said actions speak LOUDER than words!!!
Flop at the Center: starring, Action "Glass Jaw" Jackson!
Here's hoping that Cyphers gets some real minutes instaed of Jace Tavita who
cannot hit the side of a barn with a basketball.How did he get a
scholarship anyway and why does Boylen insist on playing him?
Not really, but thanks for playing.
I will agree that it was an immature reaction on Hendersons part but he still
needs to keep his emotions under control to play at this level. And maybe
Emery's reaction seemed a bit much to those of us watching on TV but did you
happen to notice that Emery kept swiping at his eyes. Havent you ever been
caught in the eye with something or hit on the nose and your eyes sting , hurt
whatever and yes you have a far bigger reaction than if it had just hit his
cheek. So maybe it wasnt as big of a flop as all the Ute fans are saying. None
of us was on the recieving end and even a fingernail can cause a reaction if it
hits your eye. Im just saying!!
Lots of Cougar fans bringing up Max Hall's comments and Cougar fans saying
things like "Max Hall was right". Then the Cougar fans criticize Ute
fans for not accepting Hall's apology and dragging his comments on and on.Pretty funny double standard.
Araujo was never suspended for punching and attempting to punch Ute players with
his fist. The BYU center (can't remember his name because it was forgettable)
kicked Bogut in the back while he was sitting on the floor. No suspension.
This backhanded slap, to get Emery's hand off of his arm, was not harmful and
foul, ejection and 1 game is more than enough punishment.
The Marshall Henderson "backhand heard round the world" to Emery, still trails
the Nate Cooper punch on Van Horn and the Chris Miles kick to Bogut's backside.
Wow! You mean that Boylen is actually considering PT for Cyphers and Hines??!!
Not those two STAR players who have warmed the bench for most of the
season...why use them now?!! Could it be that you NEED them like you have all
season long??!And as for Henderson, excuses and more excuses for his
tantrums...just as one comment read: He's inconsistent and can't guard. As far
as I can see, he can only shoot 3's from the same position and that is ALL he's
We BYU fans can be a bunch of whiners sometimes and the utes do look down their
noses at everyone. I'm surprised there isnt more said about the cheep shot. It
was a cheep shot and a oscar worthy acting proformanct from Jackson. The
coverage from Maxes words and Hendersons cheep shot was unfair and unbalanced (a
little fox news lingo there) Almost gives Maxes statement Credability. If the
roles were reversed the haters would have crawled out from under their rocks all
up and down the Wasach front.
I have been dealing with it as far back as 1985 when I was criticized and
ridiculed for being a BYU fan by my Deacon's Quorum advisor, Bishop,
Scoutmaster, and peers. That's what one would expect living under the shadow of
the U on the east bench. Keep it coming! It still makes no sense to me.You know that twisted up bitter face expression you can picture on
Henderson's face? Yeah, that was a flashback reminder of bitter Ute fan from my
The rules are obviously tighter than they used to be.The Utes will
pull together and beat CSU. It looks like they've figured out how to use
Watkins. He could have a real big game against the Rams.These
things can galvanize teams. Us against the world. The Utes could go on a nice
Wow, what a tempest in a teapot this is. I am amazed at the lingering interest
Cougar fans have in the slap/tap/slug and resulting flop/fall/death spiral to
the floor. What interests me is the lectures we U fans got following the Max
Hall incident on our need to just move on and and quit persevering over it.
Now, they just can't seem to get enough with the U, our coach and player. All
the while, the Y actually does seem to have a pretty good team with a better
than normal chance to get into the NCAA tourney and win a game or two. Their
own fans have lost sight of enjoying the ride. Take it from a U fan, going long
into the tourney - even to the championship game - is a great experience. Try
and set a "championship" tone and not worry over something as insignificant as
the slap/tap/slug. You are dimishing your own teams record and toughness.
You guys can't seem to get your stories straight! First you alledge it was one
BYU player who supposedly kicked Bogut, then it is another and now it was Miles?
Who was it really who kicked him? Or is it all just a made up deal by you? I
think the later. Yes, there was a foul called, but kicking? naw!
is appropriate. It was a heat of the moment reaction. Shouldn't have happened
but did. Let's not brand this young man for life. I think he is going to be a
pretty good player for the next 3 years at Utah. Let's quit making a issue and
The U. of U. is a weird place! What to they actually teach up there? Judging
from the way their fans behave, not much!
a few minutes earlier had a similar play involving Henderson trying to save a
ball inbounds. Emery went over and helped Henderson up.On the play
involving the elbow or fist, Emery was talking to the referee and not Henderson.
Henderson hit Emery when he wasn't looking and after the ref had turned away.Henderson is psycho and has a short fuse. He was suspended from his high
school team last season for part of the year.
Boylen and MWC have taken the appropriate actions to a unfortunate,
ill-considered action on Henderson's part. Does anyone remember the penalty for
Miles deliberately kicking Bogut? I don't remember anything other than a simple
foul being called.
It wasn't fighting. It was a cheap shot! He would get pounded in a fight!
You'd have thought the world was coming to an end caused by a flood of tears
after Max hurt everyone's feelings, and then this guy does something violent(yes
a girly slap is still violent)and it's not big deal?
This was a one time occurrence by a freshman. It's not like he's been suspended
before... well at least not for six games in high school anyway.
It's too bad that sportsmanship does not take a higher precedent in sports.
Regardless of the situation when one loses his temper he loses sportsmanship.
There should be stiffer penalties for lack of sportsmanship, and coaches should
support in whole, not make excuses and kind of support suspensions.
Sportsmanship should be required at each institution. Tempers that are not in
check should be on the bench - by the coach not the league.
2000-2001 "Let's all show respect"2002-2005 "We hate BYU. They're
all self righteous losers"2006-2007 "Let's all show respect"2008 "We hate BYU. They're all self righteous losers"2009 "Let's all show respect"Utes - you can stop the holier than
thou attitude. We dont like you either. Stop pretending to be civilized fans
during the years you lose
Say what you want, all we have to say is: scoreboard.Conversation's
over. You lose, again.
I've always felt the same too.
Imagine the outcry from the Utes if it had been a BYU player who slapped,
slugged or punched (you define it) a Ute player! What words would we hear about
BYU from Utes? Hypocrites, self righteous, throw the bum out for life, etc. As
it is, what's the big deal, what do you expect from Utes who throw beer into
opposing players faces, threaten their families and make it necessary for a
police escort of opposing players families out of RES. Classless? If the shoe
Hmm, what caused Henderson to react as he did. What could Emery have said prior
to the reaction? We'll most likely never know. To 'where are the whiners',
remember it wasn't done at a news conference following an explosive game! Let
this type of behavior end and hope that the athletics show more self control so
that we can all enjoy a good game and remember it for the outstanding plays.
An assumption that a ute is capable of having any class at all which they have
shown time and time again they don't! A coach that justifies the committed
offense and a player that offers no apology for "being caught in the heat of the
moment", Utes you are not capable of even being classless, you simply are a Ute,
errr I mean LOSER-see your teams record for proof, see your team's actions
for more proof, see your coach's actions for even more proof, shall I go on?
Are Utes fans really justifying the Henderson hit because of the "BYU FLOP"?
Hahahhaa! Maybe there should be more punching and swinging because BYU deserves
it! The only classless Ute fan is the one justifying this behavior.
someone needs to donate you an eye to see reality. "Popped him hard enough to
send him to the floor" (okay). Emery gave a better than Vlade Divac performance.
Henderson pinky flipped him. Emery Jackson is not that wimpy (or maybe he is).
Stand up for golly darn cougar sakes.
I love how Boylen interprets the NCAA rules. Even though the rule book clearly
states that using basically any part of one's body to create malicious contact
is defined as a fight, Boylen doesn't call what Henderson did a fight. Then what
was it coach? That's like saying "I wouldn't call taking three steps while
holding the basketball travelling." This guy's a joke. And he didn't even
encourage his player to apologize. Nice role model the yewts have hired.
Maybe you should watch your cougars a little closer...they have a reputation of
flopping all over! It is a requirement for any cougar to know how to flop before
he can be on the team and then many hours are spent on the development of the
NOBODY, and I mean, NOBODY, could have possibily reacted quickly enough to a
sucker punch to first see it and then deviously decide to flop just to make it
look worse than it was.Utah fans live in this fantasy world where
evil Cougars are continuously cooking up schemes just to make the Utes look
bad.Show a little backbone Utes and just admit that Henderson popped
Emery in the nose hard enough to knock him to the floor.
So a guy that says that an organization is classless (one players opinion) gets
excoriated in the press and by relentless fans.....and on the other
hand, a guy that shows he is classless (one players actions) gets a slap on the
wrist, hardly any media attention and not much whining by opposing fans, it is
swept under the rug, no big deal because he is not in the spotlight.Hypocrisy at its best.Its 3 days later and this is over....not
much attention. On the other hand, dedicated fans will continue to buy Honk for
Max bumper stickers til the end of time.Wha, wha, wha....its not the
same, you say? Its sports. Athletes act in the moment when the adreneline is
pumping, right? Have we heard an apology by Henderson yet? You expected it
from Hall and then didnt accept his apology when it came. Why are
not all athletes held to the same standard? Be it a Hall or a Henderson? Dont
actions speak louder than words?Hypocrisy at its best.
Maliciously? you have got to be kidding me. It was no more than a slap and a
great flop. It was very uncalled for and not neccessary for a freshman. But lets
not over exagerate here.
I did watch the tape.... as I'm sure everyone else did too. Strange how you
missed it though - he didn't hit him with his elbow he caught him with the back
of his hand - you have to watch some news channels to see it because of course
the Mtn network only had one angle.I'm just glad Emery didn't suffer
any whiplash from hitting the ground so fast.The Coach immediately
addressed the situation and they delt with Henderson the way the rules clearly
stated.Please notice the lack of a media relations department in all
of this. Coach Boylen took responsibility for the situation and didn't make one
excuse for it. He said that he will be punished and hopefully learn from this.
That is something that the beloved y could learn a lot from.Go
Let's be serious Cougar fans, the one game suspension is fair, it was a poor
decision but Emery wasn't hurt, a one game suspension is fair, also he is a
freshman and still has to play 3 more games at the Marriott Center, where we
will boo him every time he touches the ball.
"Boylen... said he wasn't sure of his entire starting lineup yet."uuuumm; the season's 2/3's over; when do you think we might decide on a
starting line up?
Watch the tape. The kid maliciously threw an elbow. He should be gone for a
whole lot more than one game
Because we've never heard excuses from the Y before because of
He has two more 3pt makes this season than Fredette. Fredette has made 46 of 96
from beyond the 3pt line while Henderson has made 48 of 148. The kid is shooting
less than 33 percent. Tavernari has had a terrible year and is at 37 percent. I
think it is high time somebody else got a look at Henderson's spot. He is too
inconsistent to be playing the kind of minutes he gets. Haws shoots 55 percent
from beyond the line. Wake up Boylen. No wonder we are at .500.
Let him play. It was a sissy slap and then a dive. And on top of that, it
won't matter if he plays or not. He plays no defense and on offense he hangs
out in the corner for threes. He is completely one-dimensional--and
irrelevant.Boylen needs to play Tillie and Foster together more and
let them create for each other on offense.
The excuses to justify a loss to CSU are already in the works. But the utes
won't lose much firepower from missing gunner Henderson (his 5 of 15 performance
last Saturday was worthy of Tavernari before the Cougar senior benched himself).
Henderson is a selfish player, evidenced by his punch and his on-court play.