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Published: Friday, Jan. 29 2010 5:46 p.m. MST

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"Trust me"????

Those who say that Bronco is out of line are the same type who will throw a ring on their fiancees finger, then hire one final crew of exotic dancers and rent a motel room for their bachelor party. They then call the whole thing off when that "control-freak" doesn't "trust them". Kona and his dad are playing games. If he was truly dedicated to BYU, he wouldn't have hesitated to cancel those entirely unnecessary additional trips (see: Drew Phillips). They tried to game Bronco into holding a scholarship while they worked for something better, and they lost.

big 12

BYU is really a drama queen institution. Every little thing is a big deal, their world is coming to an end. When Heap comitted to them they called for a press conference (in the bar I might add)to let everyone know that they got a good QB. Then all of sudden when certain things are not going their way they start throwing a tantrum (i.e Stanley USC, TeO ND, Kona may be ND). Get over it, BYU football program is mediocre at best. BYU fans are a bunch of faggetts anyway. BYU fans just concentrate on your church ball.

Pride

Konas Dad should have put down his pride. It would have been better for Kona.

Not too worried

BYU may have lost some needed talent and depth on the defensive line, but that doesn't mean we can't hold our own in the trenches, we did it last year with a really thinned out offensive line, we can do it with the defensive lineman on the roster.

Matt Putnam, Romney Fuga, and Vic So'oto are all really good and can be just as good as the last starters we had given some time. Fuga is bigger and stronger than Tialavea was but needs to develop his overall ability. Jan Jorgensen was a player and a leader, but Vic So'oto has more athleticism speed an more of a mean streak than Jorgensen. Matt Putnam has made a name for himself and could be as good or better than Brett Denney in a year.

On the two deep one exciting player is Alani Fua. I think he has more potential than Schwenke. Keep your eyes out for him in Spring Ball. Eathyn Manumaluena (who won the bowl game for us) will be back off a mish. The one spot to fill is the backup right side. This could finally be Steven Fisher's time to shine!

gdog3

BYU needs to realize some young men are just that. Plenty of kids not sure about what they want to do could easily come in to BYU and find themselves.

Football as a missionary tool needs to be understand to the fullest. Bronco has had success on the gridiron and in producing stalwarts. Still, I think their is a some narrow-mindedness going on in Provo. Here's more valid ammunition for those looking at BYU as holier than thou.

Kona has friends and family who could lose their respect for BYU. Many BYU fans don't care about that. I say they need to care more and quite hating on Utah and other schools by justifying any detractors as heathens. Oh the judgment train cometh.

Henry Drummond

I guess I would be more impressed if BYU refused to talk to players that had committed to another school, Riley Nielsen and Harvey Unga being two prime examples. It seems BYU only trots out the sermon on "keeping your word" when it works in their favor.

Re: Cougarf@n | 11:54 a.m.

"Kona's dad is a joke and he's trying to make BYU look bad over this."

That's funny. BYU and Mendenhall have never needed assistance in making themselves look bad.

Re: Henry Drummond @ 12:43 p.m.


Amen to what Henry said.

If BYU would refuse to talk the players after they have committed to other schools, Bronco's indignation would be more compelling.

y hawk

Good job coach! No problem here, the Schwenke family should have at least de-comitted and released the scholarship offer if they wanted to check out another school. For Mr. Schwenke to try to take down BYU while his son waffled on his decision is cheap. He was trying to have his cake and eat it too.

Idahoan

I'm not sure that BYU is burning bridges in Hawaii. I think BYU is giving chances to plenty of people. The issue is what happens with these chances. If BYU keeps getting burned by commitments that fall through, I assume BYU will focus elsewhere. I would expect that to be the case with any school. Why keep going to where you're going to get burned?

SLC

Utah fans = HATERS.

Pathetic.

Anonymous

"Neither UW nor ND are as good of programs as BYU"

Outside of Donko land, no one would agree with this statement.

That cleet marks on your forhead from 4 star talent leaving for better programs is all you need to know

Mike

BTW....we are talking about the minor leagues and a good minor league program. In the end Byu and Bronco can't afford to be so picky.

Guate

Those of you who are making the argument that Bronco is being hipocritical are intellectualy lacking.

The fact that you are saying the coach or the school is hipocritical would have to mean you think Bronco is arguing that other schools should not recruit student/athletes who have already made a committment. That is simply not the case. Bronco is NOT saying that other schools can't recruit his commits. Nor is he saying that he can't recruit commits from other schools. That would be silly.

What he is saying is that it is not OK for one of the two committed parties, in this case Kona or BYU, to back off his committment. In this particular case ND and UW are not the committed parties, and therefore, they can pursue Kona all they want. Similarly BYU was not one of the committed parties in the Nelson, Unga or Hall cases.

If a BYU commit chooses to back off his committment, BYU is no longer willing to commit its time, resources and risk to that player.

There is absolutely nothing hipocritical, wrong or unethical about that. In fact, it makes perfect sense.

RE: anonymous

' "Neither UW nor ND are as good of programs as BYU"

Outside of Donko land, no one would agree with this statement. '

Thats funny... EVERY single poll last year thought BYU was better by a large margin...

Gandolf

Yawn. Not a big deal happens every year at every decent program. But you fools who say BYU is as good as program as Washington or Notre Dame you are wrong. Just cause they have had several years of mediocreness doesn't mean your program is better. Geez MWC is so overrated and so stuck on their greatness...haha

RE:SLC | 1:40 p.m.

"Utah fans = HATERS.

Pathetic"

BYU has worked long and hard to be hated. As a Air Force fan I can assure you all the teams in the MWC are BYU HATERS... not just Utah.

Anonymous

'Yawn. Not a big deal happens every year at every decent program. But you fools who say BYU is as good as program as Washington or Notre Dame you are wrong. Just cause they have had several years of mediocreness doesn't mean your program is better. Geez MWC is so overrated and so stuck on their greatness...haha'

Actually I think its been this way for at least the last five years now. When has ND or UW finished with a higher ranking than BYU anytime in the last five years?? ???MWC destroyed the Pac-10 this year. Pac-10 is a joke in both football and basketball.

Re: Guate | 2:01 p.m.


Okay Guate, I think I follow your superior intellectual and ethical logic that there is nothing hipocritical in Bronco's actions.

That seems to apply well when he recruits hippos.

But can you help me understand if Bronco is a hypocrite by recruiting athletes who have committed to other schools?

RE: RE: Guate

'But can you help me understand if Bronco is a hypocrite by recruiting athletes who have committed to other schools?'

Yeah. If Bronco had said that the COACHES or UNIVERSITIES were unethical for trying to recruit committed players then, yes, he would be a hypocrite. All he is saying is that if you as a player commit to BYU and pull some stunt 4 days before signing day we'll give you're schollie to someone who is committed.

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