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Published: Saturday, Jan. 30 2010 12:00 a.m. MST

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Anonymous

Gays are already protected, they have every protection every other American has. Someone please tell me why they are so special and need extra protections. This is a waste of legislative time and money.

Pagan

Wait, I'm confused. Now their just waiting for a study?

I thought that was done with SLC's July '09 discrimination report. The one that gives over 300 documented examples of discrimination in Salt Lake City. The one at slc gov...com slash mayor.

I'm all for this bill, but if the reason NOT to do it is to 'wait for more evidence' how much more do we need?

Anonymous

Even the LDS church supports this bill. It should pass.

Clark

@Anonymous 2:38 - Gays and lesbians have been discriminated against. This bill is not a waste of time if Utah looks to be a more inclusive, diverse state.

Anonymous

Why is it ok to protect against discrimination for skin color and religion, but not ok to protect discrimination against sexuality? I don't see much difference.

Anonymous

This is a waste...


Spoken like someone who was never fired or evicted because of who you date.

Anonymous

Are we to allow religious special interest and hate groups to dictate and distort the laws and civil rights of this country??---that is what happened when the Nazi's gained power the night of Krystalnacht and history shows the result of these groups as well as that of other the holier than thou folks who wrongfully got the 18th Amendment passed--the effect resulted in high crime rates.

IF the civil rights of any group can be taken away --then theirs can too. So when are we going to take away the right of marriage to these homophobic ignorant folks who are so anti-american that they think that the laws and Constitution were made to give them civil rights only? Of course they will say that marriage is not a civil right for gay people just as it was not for black people before 1860.

I hope the good people of America will support freedom and civil rights for ALL not just deniers of freedom and rights to others. The majority may rule but minorities also have rights too and one of those is to not allow others to taken their rights away.

Anonymous

So, if I fire a mormon it's not discrimination? It's 'expression of my belief's?

Phantom Panther

After this bill gets passed, we need to get up a bill to protect Jews, Christians, and Muslims who believe God has clearly spoken out against the practice of homosexuality. Otherwise, the liberals will be discriminating right and right against religious people in an effort to get them to accept their liberal fundamentalism.

Pagan

'Gays are already protected, they have every protection every other American has.' - 2:38 p.m.

Really? I have a simple way to solve this. Tell your boss or landlord you are gay. If nothing happens, your fine. If they fire you, this is justified.

Go ahead, see how much fun it is to wonder.

Sexual Preference

To: Pagan "Tell your boss or landlord you are gay."

Why would you want to be discussing your private sexual preferences with anyone else. Is there nothing sacred or private about your sex life. I would never tell my boss or my landlord, "I'm a heterosexual, why should I, it's my business. Why do gays have this overwhelming need to tell everyone who and what they are in their private sex lives. If you accept yourself then it's no-one else's business.If you don't accept yourself, you are running about telling people and hoping that they will accept you. What a waste of time and energy!

Mike Richards

What does "equality under the law" mean? Special legislation?

On the one hand the gay activists say that they just want the same 'right' to marry as everyone else, but with this bill, they want a lot more than equality.

Which is it? Equal or non-equal? On which side of the fence do they stand?

@Phanton Panther

Uh, hate to tell you, but that protection is already in place and has been for years.

Anonymous

'I would never tell my boss or my landlord, "I'm a heterosexual...' - 3:25 p.m.

You ignore the obvious.

If you have a wedding band on or engagement ring, odds are you are a heterosexual. If you invite anyone to an anniversary, you make your sexuality public. Mention a date to co-worker? Same thing. Tell co-workers about someone ELSE'S marriage? Why you just 'outed' them, didn't you?

What about common questions?

'What do you think about male/female actress in that movie?'
'Who are you going to the company function with?'
'How many tickets to X event do you want?'

What if someone asks you a question giving away their own orientation?

'Man! That Angelina Joelie? She's keeper!'
'Brad Pitt is a stud.'

Etc, etc.

I love it when people try and tell me to keep my sexual orientation a secret as they tell me about their wedding plans. And then fail to recognize the hypocrisy.

I accept myself. I never wanted your approval. Only the legal benefits of keeping my job.

Anonymous

3:25 - I would never tell my boss or my landlord, "I'm a heterosexual...


scared?

Anonymous

Many LDS do not ask you what your sexual orientation is.

They word it instead as 'Are you married?'

Anonymous

RE --- Sexual Preference | 3:25 p.m

["Why would you want to be discussing your private sexual preferences with anyone else. Is there nothing sacred or private about your sex life."]

hahaha. you crack me up!! first, what does gay have to do with sex? is that all your relationships are about? if so, how sad is that?

second, the first time she (or he) has her/his girlfriend/boyfriend over, the landlord will know. or the boss will know when they come to the Christmas party with you.

or are they supposed to hide? in the closet would be best? how perfectly 1950s...

we really don't need any of these laws. what we need is for all you people to come out of the 50s and join the 21st century, where none of it matters and people are just people....

To: Anon 3.45

I don't think the person is scared to tell his/her sexual orientation. I think what they are saying, it's a private matter, why discuss it at all. But gays seem to have the need to do that which I find disturbing.

re -- Mike Richards | 3:37 p.m

["What does "equality under the law" mean? Special legislation?"]

no. it means that everyone has a fair shake. and since you people insist on using your biases to preclude or prevent the gay community from having jobs (that they are qualified for) and housing (thet they have every right to occupy) then the governing bodies must put in place laws to do so.

you act like this is a bad thing, yet YOU BROUGHT IT ON YOURSELVES!! you do realize that, right? if you treated people decently and didn't use your personal biases to cause harm to others, this wouldn't even be an issue!

["On the one hand the gay activists say that they just want the same 'right' to marry as everyone else, but with this bill, they want a lot more than equality."]

they are simply tired of being picked on and denied the very things that YOU take for granted every day. I don't even know how you can post your comment with a straight face. are you really that ignorant?

you people just need to stop treating gays differently than you treat everyone else. then no laws reuired.

think you can do that?

Pagan

'But gays seem to have the need to do that...' (Talk about sexual prefference)

No, people talk about it. And, as such people ASK about it. Take this article for example. If I didn't tell you I was gay, but I supported this bill, that would raise suspcion, correct?

And as such, you would wonder. If you met me down the road and we were aquantinces, you would ask me some roundabout question about who I was seeing. Or if I handn't 'started a family yet'. etc.

Let me give you some examles:

When are you going to have kids?
You don't want to be an old cat lady, do you?
Is something wrong? Can you NOT have kids?
When are you getting married?
Are you married?
I know this girl...

etc.

Take your orientation out of your life if you must. Do not ask the same of others.

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