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Published: Tuesday, May 6 2008 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Flummoxed in Zion

I knew it wasn't possible. The Southerland Institute has yet to come up with any position or analysis that was thoughtful or complete. For a place that claims to be a "think tank" there sure aren't many "thinks" to be found, yet convincing thinkers to communicate them.

Here again, they shill for special interest groups. Give me a break. Why insult everybody by bringing the Southerland Institute into the conversation?

new world order

Has the US moved more to the left or right politically since the first amnesty in the 1980's? The answer to the question is fairly straightforward since we are finishing up eight years of the alleged Republican Jorge Bush and the republican nominee for President is "open borders McCain". Think big business interests don't want nationalized health care? Of course, it's one less benefit they have to offer employees.
There is something really sinister going on when the Government, Media and corporate interests all want increased immigration from third world countries and the citizenry is screaming for it to end. Somebody has to foot the overhead costs of Government and evidently us natives weren't getting it done.
What's going to happen when all these immigrants who are paying peanuts into Social Security become eligible for full benefits? Taxes go through the roof and voila.... the chains on the taxpayer just got much, much heavier... but the big dogs will be happy



Send them over. I have room in my attic, cellar and living room. There is always room in my inn.


In response to the post about enforcing the border first, then we can talk about legalizing them.

I am not taking the position of legalizing them. My point was that someone so close to the issue for so long has taken a position that many would scream is amnesty. For me it really struck home that any solution is going to require different approachs.

As for strict enforcement up front, I agree though that will not solve the problem entirely. It will slow it down significantly but we are then left with 20 million plus already here. With a number that large it requires a degree of self-enforcement.

Having local law enforcement tie into ICE creates an environment in which those here illegally are looking for a way to legalize. What if we had a one or two year work visa that these people could apply to - from their country of origin - then travel across the border easily. I could see many millions doing that.

That may not be the perfect answer but candidly, what does a 20 million pound gorilla do? Answer, what ever it wants. We must provide incentives to make any meaningful reform.


>>Sutherland recommends Utah lawmakers be guided by four "sentiments." First, welcome all people of goodwill to the state... >second, don't make law-enforcement officers or other Utahns serve as proxy for federal immigration officials >third, pass laws that enhance "economic transparency," making it possible for immigrants to be law-abiding >and fourth, encourage illegal immigrants to be "thoroughly assimilated, literate and productive members of our community.">>

Too funny. No one can make anyone learn the language or become assimilated.

Further, a simple way to push assimilation is to stop with the "for English press 1, for Spanish press 2," etc... which will never happen.


"What would Jesus do?"

His position may well be spell out in the statement: "Obey, honor, and sustain the law."


People keep harping on "comprehensive immigration reform." We don't need reform. All that is necessary is to enforce immigration employment laws already on the books.

Require verification of legal status with the Social Security Administration before hiring.

Heavy fines for employers who don't verify or who hire illegals.

Very simple. Let illegals who are here, stay. But I think, if they can't get work they will drift on home.

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