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Published: Monday, April 28 2008 1:57 p.m. MDT

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Doug S

It's going to be fun to see how much money Texas has to pay their lawyers to analyze these 1,000 boxes of evidence. And doubly so, when someone finally figures out that the search warrant was BS, that seeing a pregnant 16-year-old does not give "probable cause" to suspect statutory rape when there are dozens of teenaged boys on the compound, and that all those 1,000 boxes of evidence are . . . INADMISSIBLE.

The lawyers dicker . . .

. . . as lawyers do.

Luckily the children are safely out of the reach of FLDS and it's lawyers for now.

Imagine dealing with these guys if you were trying to get warrants before taking the children to safety.

The FBI

is after some of the guys? That's no surprise.

I'm not surprised about the amount of evidence either.

The warren jeffs stuff should not be privliged. The man is a criminal.

Give it up

I understand that there are laws and priveleged information that can't be admissable in court. However if these people have nothing to hide and believe they are doing nothing outside the law, what is so secret in this stuff. If my kids had been taken from me and I had done nothing wrong, I would let them take it all!!! They could have every shred of paperwork and everything I owned!!

I am confident that there will be criminal charges brought against both men and women of the FLDS compound. I say let it take as long as it has to. They are obviously hiding something they know is illegal!!

hmmmmm

SAN ANTONIO Texas child welfare officials say more than half the teen girls swept into state custody from a polygamist sect's ranch have been pregnant.

Child Protective Services spokesman Darrell Azar says 53 girls between the ages of 14 and 17 were living on the ranch in Eldorado. Of that group, 31 already have children or are pregnant.

State officials took custody of all 463 children at the Yearning For Zion Ranch more than three weeks ago after a raid prompted by calls to a domestic violence hotline.

Child welfare officials say there was a pattern of underage girls forced into "spiritual marriages" with much older men at the ranch.

CA

I don't really care what we spend if it means all those fake religionists get some jail time for their crimes agains women and children. I wander what story the DNA will tell?

What is the status of the suit brought by Jeff's nephew- the nephew who said Jeff's (and others) sexually assualted him (and other kids)repeatedly when he was 5 and six years old?

to hmmm

cps also said the call was made from within the compound by a 16 year old girl when they could have tracked the cell phone to Colorado. They said the bed in the temple was for older men consummating the marriage to their teenage girls when in reality it was for tired workers there and so on. The CPS has lied from the beginning. I wouldn't be surprised if they can't find any evidence in it. I am not a fan of the FLDS but I am of basic human rights. They have been violated in this case and children traumatized forever. If we cheer Texas on, we might be next and more families are torn apart without a search warrant, or like in this case, it will be fabricated later. I am scared by the power Texas assumes here.

Doug S

CA, I wonder whether the DNA will ever make it into the courtroom.

There may be something to the allegations Jeffs' nephew is making. But given that Jeffs controls (or controlled, until recently) a multi-million dollar trust, I'll wait until I see some hard evidence before considering Jeffs guilty of sodomy. Give a court a couple hundred bucks in filing fees and you, too, can have your own lawsuit accusing anyone in the world of any charge you feel inclined to make.

txmom77

CPS also said that only one child was in the hospital, but today said they are working on a schedule so that parents can visit their CHILDREN that are in the hospital. Huh, children usually means more than one child.

Red Texan

It isn't just Jeff's nephew alleging all the child abuse at the FLDS compounds. This is a tragic example of the many victims the crime of Polygamy creates.

Go Texas. Rescue the children!

Lilathe

I think the last count on children in the hospital was 9. Eight in hospital one breastfed toddler in intensive care from dehydration.

Polidoro Tetoskulopis

One of the greatest misfortunes that has happen to humanity is that people are being told to be religious, not spiritual.
I prefer that my tax dollars be expended on these unfortunate mothers' and children than in the Bush's family war in Irak.
It is interesting to read christian hating christian in these comments.
Is there any web-site to send help to these women and their children?

CA

31 of 53 girls age 14 to 17 are or have been pregnant. Is that OK?

No.

G

"31 of 53 girls age 14 to 17 are or have been pregnant."

Okay, now they can release the other 374 kids before more of them end up in the ICU.

Re: CA

If 31 of 53 girls age 17 are or have been pregnant, then that is 100% legal under current Texas law. And if they came from some other state, then other ages may or may not have been perfectlt legal also. Why not list the number 14-16 instead of including the legal age of 17 in the total?

txmom77

There are TWO pregnant girls now. How in the heck did they get a judge to sign that order? I mean you found 2 pregnant minors in a sea of 436 children and you just know it's sexual abuse?? I thought they had dozens and dozens are pregnant girls??

Leroy G.

"Child Protective Services spokesman Darrell Azar says 53 girls between the ages of 14 and 17 were living on the ranch in Eldorado. Of that group, 31 already have children or are pregnant."

>>>Ok assuming this is true it means that 22 are not pregnant and have no children.
Lets say 13 girls in each age group and 14 of 16 yr olds. Hmm if all 17 yr olds are pregnant and all 16 yr olds are pregnant that equals 27 -- Not enough -- need at least 4 girls that are 15 and pregnant. That does not look good for FLDS.
Oh I see now. Maybe there are more 17 yr olds because CPS determined they were under 18.
CPS determined on the day of separation that 25 girls who claimed to be over 18 were actually minors. At least they are with their kids. They can worry about being 18 at a later time. If they were actually 18 then 31 minus 25 leaves 6 and maybe none who are 16.

Interested

It has been amazing to me to see what CPS calls normal in this situation. They say that they have just been following standard procedures and as far as can be seen through the media they have been. How many Americans that believe in FREEDOM are frighted by this. How many are shocked that the standard procedures of one branch of our government can have such devastating results. That the civil rights of so many can be so easily and completely violated and our government calls it legal and standard. We as "free" Americans should look very clearly at this situation and the power that we have given to our government. Is this the kind of thing we want to live with. I ask all those who think that a child should never suffer, do you really think that a government can accomplish that. The love and feelings of family will surpass those of government for it's governed subjects.

A warning to all parents. In the USA you are no longer in charge of your children. The government is and the only rights that you have is what the government "gives" to you.

Is this what we really want?

Texas Justice

This probably has a whole lot more to do with some prosecutor trying to make a name for him/her self than it does with trying to help kids who don't need help.

Interested

Where are the charges? Why have so many been treated as guilty and none have been charged with a crime.

How can we Americans sit back and so easily rob other free citezens of their civil rights?

How did we arrive at a point that CPS has such great power and might that they can judge by what they think they see or what they believe might be and there judgement receive such a final status that so many children can be take with out a single charge filed against a single person.

How can we possible arrive at the conclusion that something a one year old child is going to be taught later in his life is "imminent danger". How could a judge uphold such a rediculous claim let alone rip that child away from home, mother and father.

If there are crimes that have taken place; investigate that crime and the person(s) that actually did it. Leave the rest alone until probably cause is found for other crimes.

That members of this religion may have broken a law in the State of Texas is very likely. Is this not so with any religion in America?

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