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I just finished taking a gander at the aforementioned websites and frankly was not impressed. While the REAL LDS Church has a picture of Christ at the opening of their site, the "FLDS" have NONE! By their fruits ye shall know them. No mention of Christ on their "truth" website. Also on the "captive" site, someone needs to contact Janice Kapp Perry to see if she approved of their use of the song "I'm Trying to Be Like Jesus" in the background of one of the videos. There is no credit of such, and this is a flagrant copyright violation.
Another side of the issue nobody has brought up relates to a video aired last fall on CNN by Gary Tuchman. I'm looking for the URL, but in the video Warren Jeffs was filmed in prison stating to the best of my memory, that he "was not a prophet." He also broke down confessing that at one point sinned by "lying with a woman and her daughter at the same time."
To the staff at the Deseret News, I hope this will provide you with some issues to research. Thanks for your excellent coverage.
This is no more a war on child abuse than WWII was a war on submarines
As I do not agree with there church.I have a true understanding about what happened and I do not agree with the way it was done. they have a right in america to worship as they see fit. the children were happy where they were.this is no different than an abduction of these children from there parents.reminds me of waco somewhat
These websites are kind of a joke. Why take pictures of your kids getting taken away?
The FLDS truth website is laughable. Why officially launch an incomplete website? And that picture of that pervert Warren Jeffs tells you a lot right there.
anyone notice the "DONATE" button on the website?
"bleed the beast", 2008 style ?
I hear these women say over and over again when asked about young girls being forcedto marry older men we are here about the children. well some one need to tellthem they are marrying children to dirty old men
Hmmm...donate huh ?? Will this go to the Warren Jeffs legal defense fund ? What about all the money earned through welfare fraud and fleecing the labor of young boys without paying them and then sending them out of the only home they ever knew to become lost boys? Where were these loving parents then ? What about their daughters ? Being groomed as young sex slaves for the pleasure of old perverts ? I never doubt they love their children, but only till their 'prophet' says it is convenient. That is a double standard. This is a CULT, not a religion. It may have been a religion until Warren Jeffs took over, but now it is a CULT and all children belonging to cults must be protected.
I wonder which Bible they use? They must not have read what 2 Timothy 3:2 says about Christian men: "...without reproach, the husband of one wife..."
Dear Disgusted,
The reason we have no picture of Jesus Christ on our website, It's not because we don't believe in him, its because #1 there is no true picture of what he really looks like, and we will not put a picture of a "supposed" picture of Jesus in our homes! and #2 Because the website is about how our religion was brought back to this earth not the whole history of all the prophets before Jesus, and it has pictures of our prophets only of this dispensation.
Seriously, though... was it necessary to bring in armed SWAT team? Does that strike anyone as a LITTLE overzealous? What were these prairie style women going to do that required use of a tank? Really, now, I certainly do not agree with underaged forced marraiges, but let's all remember that these folks, weird as they may be, are American citizens. The first time a tank rolls through MY neighborhood and SWAT members start lining up the kids playing on my street, I am going to cause a MUCH LARGER STINK than the FLDS are. Please let's investigate allegations of abuse and assist women and children as much as possible, WHILE respecting American citizens and their rights. Not to mention that they must've scared these little kids TO DEATH with all the pomp and circumstance of the raid, and by separating kids as young as 6 from their moms. My 7 year old has never spent a day away from me except with trusted family and friends. Poor little things! Texas is getting its "BIG" attitude in the way of its own investigation, I think!
freaks r us .com.
They make me ill. I hope all children never go back to ranch brainwash
"we will not put a picture of a "supposed" picture of Jesus in our homes!"
But you have pictures of the convicted pedophile Warren Jeffs EVERYWHERE!
I pray that these children are kept away from the sick indoctrination of FLDS.
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But you have pictures of the convicted pedophile Warren Jeffs EVERYWHERE!"
Elly,
You misunderstood. Nobody knows what Jesus looks like, so they don't see a need for artistic speculation. You can find out what Jeffs looks like from an old FBI list.
There is a reference to a CNN report earlier by Disgusted. I looked up the reference and it was from November 7, 2007. There is a transcript from the jail where Jeffs reportedly attempted to hang himself.
Here is the excerpt from CNN:
Jail transcripts show that Jeffs' suicide attempt came three days after a visit with his brother, Nephi, in which he said, "I am not the prophet. I never was the prophet, and I have been deceived by the powers of evil ... I ask for everyone's forgiveness." Jeffs also told his brother: "Farewell forever."
The day before that, Jeffs told a follower in a phone conversation that he was "covered with immorality with a sister and a daughter when I was younger." In the FLDS, members call adult women "sister," and Jeffs' meaning was unclear.
I might add that I SAW and HEARD Jeffs state those things on video. It is not just hearsay.
Swat: If you are patrolling your property/yard via high powered rifles, night vision and etc., I'll be the first to call 911 and watch swat close your neighborhood and take you away.
Outraged: CPS has been in the business of taking away children based upon hearsay and suggestions of abuse for at least twenty five years now, in many states. The parent/s is/are guilty until proven innocent. This happens on a small scale every single day. Also DNA samples are ordered by the courts for paternity everyday. I am certainly interested to see the outcome of those results--this may lead to a family feud in at least three states!
...and if these FDLS men were so sure that how they
are teaching the females/males in their compound how
to live was within the law, where are they now? If they
are so sure that their way is the right way, why are
they not out their fighting for their children, helping
these mothers? Running scared is where they are...
probably have an underground tunnel for a quick
escape. I would hope that the state of Texas does not
blow this and send those children back to abuse.
Hey Disgusted !
What does Christ look like? Maybe you could give them a description so they could draw an image.
Hey "Is polygamy ok"
Abraham had more than 1 wife as well as did Moses, David, etc.....
Now, one time a man called Paul comes along and a misinterpreted verse of his is used by people like you............research, bud, you might find out what that verse really means. Ever read the books of Moses? "Shall not diminish the rights of the First wife" look it up!
Stork: Apparently you are commenting from somewhere outside of the US, because here. . .it is illegal. Perhaps you are unaware that he who, "beareth the sword not in vain," are the law enforcement officers of the government, and what were swords are now bullet firing weapons. This entire mess could have been avoided if men weren't greedy perverts!
stork, research yourself and find the differences between old and new testament. there were only more than one wife in the old testament before Jesus and his teachings.
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