Comments about ‘Is arrest tied to FLDS raid, phone calls?’

Regardless if this video is true, This still will not do anything to the case. Because, when they went in originally they were looking for a sarah. They had the search warrnet and acted in good faith, to look for sarah and anything that pertained to her. When they found that the other children were being abused, they went and got another search warrent. The authorites went in under "valid suspicion" or "Just cause" They went in originally "in good faith" which means that they did not go in to delbritly harrass these people.. How were they to know that if in fact this story is true, that it was a hoax? How were they to know that???? CPS has a duty to investigate ALL claims of abuse, and thats what they were doing. So this "new development" will not affect the case one bit. Because there was bause going on, therefore the warrents still Stand.

I think the authorities in Texas are going to drag their feet pursuing this one if it turns out she is responsible for the Texas raid. Going after her right now would cause too much turmoil for the hearing, but I don't see how they're going to be able to ignore it. Funny that in Arizona when the story didn't match up the cops found the person responsible. In Texas when the story didn't match up they signed a warrant to storm the place with the SWAT team and an armored truck. Just so everyone is aware, the girl who catalyzed the Texas raid used two different last names in two different calls, used vernacular the FLDS don't use (they call us "gentiles," not "outsiders," and they don't celebrate Easter, even though the girl in the call said the last time she was abused was "Easter Sunday"), and accused a man known not to have been to Texas during the time of the alleged abuse. I anticipate this woman will turn out to be the elusive "Sarah."

This whole witch hunt will unravel -- this is just the first thread come undone. The testimony from today's custody hearing was remarkable for how tendentious the state's claims are. The best news from the coverage of the today's hearing is that it sounds as if several of the attorneys for the children and parents actually understand the 14th Amendment.

My prediction: Texas ends up paying the FLDS $85 million to settle 12000 due process violations.

lynn
so just anybody can make a call and say that "Lynn" is being abusive so CPS, under "valid suspicion" or "just cause" and "in good faith" make investigations and find "new developement" and take all that is precious and dear from you and you don't feel there is a wrong???? Get Real!!!!

There is nothing "good faith" about what the Texas sheriff and judge did. The texas sheriff obtained a warrant without doing any due diligence to find out if the alegations were potentially true. The judge then issued a warrant that was both bogus and unreasonably broad. Any evidence subsequently obtained is "fruit of the poisonous tree".

The FLDS ranch was then subjected to a search and siezure proceedure that violated the 4th ammendment. Kidnaping 416 kids because they might be abused in the future simply can't be legally justified. While most people (including me) don't agree with the FLDS lifestyle, they are American citizens and have constitutional rights.

I hope the good people of Texas recall the sheriff and the judge that are responsible for this mess and the FLDS lawyers sue the socks off the county that elected these people.

What is next? Under the philosophy of the the Texas CPS is using, all children should be taken away from catholic families because they there is a potential that thier children may be abused in the future by pedophile priests.

@ Lynn.

I don't know, maybe they could have looked at their caller ID and seen that the phone number was from Colorado Springs and not the ranch. They could have traced the call back to her between the week the call was made, instead of just organizing the SWAT procedures without conducting a proper investigation.

very interesting. the horror show goes on. how sad

Agreed the FLDS case will go forward regardless of the outcome of the subject hoax caller case. It does, however, point out a problem. Based on a phony call 400 kids were yanked from their homes. This should never happen again. The harm to frightened children can not be repaired. Let us make sure as a society that the sanctity of home and family remain protected from "military like" intrusion.

Could it be that, "The Phone Is Mightier Than The Truth". Maybe the laws by which the various CPS agencies operate,need to be rewritten. Asumming that
it is proven, there was no criminal abuse, what happens next? Will the state drag this Witch Hunt out further? What about the integrity of Texas Law,
and government. Why should the people obey the law,
when the "Law" is twisted at the will of the Masters
in power? And can one believe the statement of Lynn,
that, it does not matter about the veracity of the purported phone call. Dear Heavens!

Lynn,
You seem to be on some sort of vendetta. No concern for the innocent I guess?

This whole episode is so sad. The whole thing is backwards; you go in based on a pretty convincing phone call, they find what I hope was probable cause and take the children; or treat the call as suspicious, do nothing, and children are allegedly abused and there they stay. I woud not want to make that determination. As for tracing the call she used a cell phone and I think that is a pretty long process to trace the call to the tower ect. Either way these children are traumatised now what do you do?

It is sad when the thing we have to fear the most is our own government.

I sure hope this cult will be snuffed out unless they get rid of the disgusting doctrine of polygamy.

Their children need ot be taken away and converted.

No one has the right to have a sex slave farm and call it a religion.

This makes a little more sense...it still seems odd to me that if those girls on the ranch have as little access to the outside world as it is said they do - how would "Sarah" have gotten ahold of all these phone numbers? How would she have known about the domestic abuse hotline and how to call it? Not to mention there were so many women in the compound who had cell phones in the first place -- not QUITE as backwards in some areas of their lives as the media would have as believe.

Have you listened to the phone calls or read transcripts of them? Where is it proclaimed that the FLDS do not observe Easter Sunday? And the name-changing of the children interviewed was widespread, according to the social workers and those who interviewed or spoke directly to the children. You might want to check your 'facts' next time.

I don't think it has to do with a hoax phone call but the larger issue is when the CPS and the authorities arrived on the compound what did they find? They found pregnant teen girls, they found children married to older adult men, the educational system in the compound was horrible (cheating these kids out of an education), plenty of children coming down with chicken pox, boys kicked out of the house and onto the street (that is abuse in itself) and major sexual abuse. I mean, heck, you you can get in trouble for having child porn on your computer.

Why do some of you polyamorous folks stop the jive and see that kids were in danger. To hell with the fake caller. That isn't the issue.

OK, Rozita gets bored makes a call and brings down the whole "Ranch", which in turn costs Texas approx. $30,000 per day. Now Defendants can argue Illegal search and seizure tie this up in court for years and cost tax payer millions. All because Rozita was bored. I guess she isn't an American Idol fan.

Who would have guessed that the phone call was phoney?

Answer: Anyone with an IQ of more than 60!!

This is one time I would like to see the Feds step in and put a lot of those Texas officials in jail.

Let's just nail these crazies to the wall anyway, shall we? It'll be fun! And we can beat our chests afterwards and revel in what tough guys we are!

Don't mess with Texas, or the children it steals.

On to the reeducation camps to provide them with a more acceptable religion! Parents bite the big one!

well well well . . . perhaps we have found our Sarah.

This will not have any affect on the case. Police went in. They didn't find Sarah but did find abuse. This authorized them to remove children.

Please listen to reason.