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good | 6:35 a.m. April 17, 2008
Scrutiny and more. First Texas, then the rest.
Not in America | 8:43 a.m. April 17, 2008
This is sick and hypothetically anyone could just start a cult and say that
everything they do is "god's will" and begin brainwashing their
children so there is nothing else. This should all be illeagal and all of these
men need to be put in jail for their shovenism and the women need to understand
that the sexual revolution has taken place--everyone should have the right to
live as they choose, but these women/children have never been able to truly
"choose," as those who weren't brainswashed were held captive or
were too scared to run.
The Texans | 10:08 a.m. April 17, 2008
They either pass muster or they don't. This business of behind walls and
fences and ranches is counter productive.
Comments continue below
decriminalization | 10:11 a.m. April 17, 2008
I have no problem with consenting adults living a lifestyle that suits them, and
I think most people would agree. My understanding is that many polygamists are
only legally married to one wife anyway to avoid bigamy charges. I am not a
polygamist and it would never be a lifestyle that I would want, but the FLDS
scrutiny has apparently hurt other polygamist families who are hard-working,
law-abiding people integrated into mainstream
society��many who live along the
Wasatch front.
If polygamists want to fight to decriminalize bigamy, living in a secret compound or closed off communities and committing crimes against children and women is definitely not the way to go about it. Warren Jeff�s made horrible decisions that cost all polygamists any chance they had to gain public support for decriminalizing the lifestyle. Hopefully the one thing that does come out of the incident in Texas is the message to adults who do practice polygamy, that this country will not stand for abuse of any kind under the guise of religion.
If polygamists want to fight to decriminalize bigamy, living in a secret compound or closed off communities and committing crimes against children and women is definitely not the way to go about it. Warren Jeff�s made horrible decisions that cost all polygamists any chance they had to gain public support for decriminalizing the lifestyle. Hopefully the one thing that does come out of the incident in Texas is the message to adults who do practice polygamy, that this country will not stand for abuse of any kind under the guise of religion.
Sylvia | 10:29 a.m. April 17, 2008
Where are all of the men? They're supposed to be priestly and honored?
Don't make me laugh. They've scattered like roaches.
Even though I don't agree with that lifestyle, kudos to the women interviewed on CNN and other networks.
Even though I don't agree with that lifestyle, kudos to the women interviewed on CNN and other networks.
HD | 10:30 a.m. April 17, 2008
I believe we are seeing only the tip of the iceburg. If you have watched any of
the interviews of the women and looked at the pictures, you see an almost
zombie-like appearance. They refuse to answer direct questions as if they did
not hear the question. You do not see any interviews with the men. There is
simply too much smoke here and its time we look for the fire. There is something
inherently wrong with isolating people and controlling their thoughts and minds
that is no longer accepted in society as a whole. I feel for the children that
are trapped in this situation. When children are interviewed they don't
even know their names or fathers. I can understand the frustration that the
Texas authorities feel as they are struggling to help these children. Its time
to get to the bottom of this issue.
You know... | 10:33 a.m. April 17, 2008
if they (FLDS) could just get rid of the under-age marriages, abuses in all
forms, incest, and forbidding their members to come and go as they please,
they wouldn't be scrutinzed at all...
What is brainwashing? | 11:00 a.m. April 17, 2008
The term gets thrown around a lot, but I've never really heard a good
definition for "brainwashing," much less anything that would make a
legal definition. For instance, is home-schooling considered brainwashing?
What about Sunday School for children? Or a political discussion around the
dinner table that leans heavily to one party's ideologies?
Or perhaps you refer to insulating them from the rest of the world. Then is preventing children from seeing X-rated material considered brainwashing? What about letting them go to Disneyland unaccompanied? Or drive a car? Drink alcohol?
Or perhaps you refer to insulating them from the rest of the world. Then is preventing children from seeing X-rated material considered brainwashing? What about letting them go to Disneyland unaccompanied? Or drive a car? Drink alcohol?
Anonymous | 11:07 a.m. April 17, 2008
"shovenism is criminal." How could we have freedom to be shovenistic,
not in America. This is the land of cultural moralism by majority. My advise
don't go against sexual revolution.
BMM | 11:31 a.m. April 17, 2008
This has nothing to do with religion. It's about dominating and controlling
women.
FLDS effect | 12:07 p.m. April 17, 2008
I have no problem with consenting adults living an alternative lifestyle that
suits them. My understanding is that many polygamists are only legally married
to one wife anyway to avoid bigamy charges. I am not a polygamist and it would
NEVER be a lifestyle that I would want, but the FLDS scrutiny has apparently
hurt other polygamist families who are hard-working, law-abiding people
integrated into mainstream
society��some who reportedly live
along the Wasatch front.
If polygamists want to fight to decriminalize bigamy, living in a secret compound or closed-off communities and committing crimes against children and women is definitely not the way to go about it. Warren Jeff�s made horrible decisions that cost all polygamists any chance they had to gain public support for decriminalizing the lifestyle. Hopefully the one important thing that does come out of the incident in Texas is the message to adults who do practice polygamy--that this country will not stand for abuse of any kind under the guise of religion.
If polygamists want to fight to decriminalize bigamy, living in a secret compound or closed-off communities and committing crimes against children and women is definitely not the way to go about it. Warren Jeff�s made horrible decisions that cost all polygamists any chance they had to gain public support for decriminalizing the lifestyle. Hopefully the one important thing that does come out of the incident in Texas is the message to adults who do practice polygamy--that this country will not stand for abuse of any kind under the guise of religion.
FLDS effect | 12:36 p.m. April 17, 2008
Sorry about the duplicate post. The Dnews moderators must be a little slow this
AM. :-)
jc | 12:44 p.m. April 17, 2008
The women are evasive with their answers about their husbands because they have
been advised by their attorneys not to discuss them. I saw the Texas attorney
general on TV saying the women have admitted to bigamy because they say they are
living in polygamous "spiritual" marriages. If they are not legal
marriages how can it be bigamy? He also said the "spiritually"
married girls under 18 have been sexually abused because their marriages are not
legal. How can it be both ways?
Teresa | 12:57 p.m. April 17, 2008
This phenomen has nothing to do with God or religion. This is a lifestyle for
dominating male persons, but where this women come from? How were these women
educated! Or were they educated at all? What fate are they going to create for
their own daugther? or the father who are able to endure the sexual exploitation
their own children? Many question reuqire answear!
an answer | 1:17 p.m. April 17, 2008
What is brainwashing? Simple. When mothers tell their church authorities that
their daughters have reached puberty, so that they might be married...that is
brainwashing. When a mother allows her 14 year old son to be tossed out of the
compound with only the clothes on his back and a 6th grade education to lead a
life of prostitution to get food in his belly because a bunch of "royal
lineage" men want multiple wives....you have brainwashing. When you allow
you daughter to be married off to your brother...that is brainwashing. When you
allow your daughter to marry your brother even though you know you are a carrier
for Fumerase Deficiency making a pregnancy likely to end in a child with an IQ
of 25...that is brainwashing. When you are 30 years old and a
grandmother...that is brainwashing. When you support your prophet despite the
fact that he married a 14 year old girl to her 19 year old uncle leading to
marital rape...that is brainwashing. Are we clear yet? This issue isn't
polygamy but child abuse, child sexual abuse, abandonment, rape, and incest.
JRD | 1:22 p.m. April 17, 2008
This YFZ Ranch raid is about protecting children. The citizens of Texas and the
USA have established laws to protect children. Regardless of your religion, if
you abuse a child (whether you claim to be married to her or not) you will be
held accountable for your actions.
Laws against polygamy may be unconstitutional, but they are laws none-the-less. Laws that protect children are and always will be constitutional. We can argue the legality of plural marriage, but we cannot argue the legality of allowing or enabling men to physically and/or sexually abuse children.
We must unite to protect these girls, regardless of our religous convictions and tenets.
Laws against polygamy may be unconstitutional, but they are laws none-the-less. Laws that protect children are and always will be constitutional. We can argue the legality of plural marriage, but we cannot argue the legality of allowing or enabling men to physically and/or sexually abuse children.
We must unite to protect these girls, regardless of our religous convictions and tenets.
Larry King | 1:29 p.m. April 17, 2008
I watched Larry King he was asking them, have you ever seen old man marry
younger women? They were evasive. Who cares about the fact that there was zero
articulation in the question.
Colorado | 1:33 p.m. April 17, 2008
Send them to Colorado, I will welcome them and leave them alone unless they want
a neighborly relationship. Which I would have no problem with.
saddest part of all | 1:48 p.m. April 17, 2008
And the saddest part of all is that somebody has convinced somebody else that
God told them to do it.
And the sheared sheep believe it.
And the sheared sheep believe it.
wierd | 1:58 p.m. April 17, 2008
I have a question about FLDS..
I read somewhere each family is restricted to one color for the female dress. So in theory if you study the pictures can we assume the women wearing the same color dress are all married to the same guy?
I read somewhere each family is restricted to one color for the female dress. So in theory if you study the pictures can we assume the women wearing the same color dress are all married to the same guy?
Lori | 2:12 p.m. April 17, 2008
Where are the boys? I have heard on the radio 24 of the 400 kids taken are boys.
I would hope if these numbers are even close to the truth that the Texas
authorities will be searching the "compound" for mass graves. Seems to
me that China would be the perfect place for them to relocate their next YFZ
ranch. FLDS could trade infant boys for the much prized female and everybody is
happy or so numb and in denial that it doesn't really matter as long as Jim
Bob is gettin' some.
Hey Colorado | 2:15 p.m. April 17, 2008
You said that you would be a good neighbor to the FLDS. Would you return a
pregnant 13 year old that escaped from the community back to the community? Or,
would you call authorities since she was clearly raped perhaps in incest? If a
14 year old boy that was, kicked out of the community because he was competition
for females, came to your door, would you shun him like a good neighbor? Or,
would you give him a place to live since he would be kicked out with only the
clothes on his back and no money for so much as a soda? And sorry, they
aren't interested in being your friend, in fact you would be despised by
them. They aren't just polygamists. They are polygamists that perpetrate
crimes against children from the top (Warren Jeffs) on down.
this is why | 2:09 p.m. April 17, 2008
And this is why the pioneers of '47 crossed the Great Divide only to endure
the hardships ...
you know the rest.
And now we know a bit more about WHY they immigrated.
you know the rest.
And now we know a bit more about WHY they immigrated.
yeah right | 3:16 p.m. April 17, 2008
then how come when a bunch of native americans pull up to enjoy the great
outdoors...you see a whole bunch of sheriffs , happens in Moab, utah , cortez ,
colorado and so forth. Then these felonous people who are committing them year
end and year out are given carte blanche with the legal sector. We even have
veterans who have the purple heart in our group as we are all out doors and
nobody drinks either...good neighbors yeah right!
Anonymous | 3:11 p.m. April 17, 2008
when is the last time a wife was prosecuted after all it takes two to tango
Anonymous | 3:45 p.m. April 17, 2008
All of this is the skankiest of the skanky.
Abe | 3:40 p.m. April 17, 2008
Why don't the women speak with any inflection in their voices? Are they on
some kind of drug? They have no passion, no righteous indignation, no fire in
the belly. If you're a mother and your children were taken from you in
this way, and you get a chance to talk to Larry King, would you be so
dead-panned?
To: an answer | 3:57 p.m. April 17, 2008
Brainwashing is any type of indoctrination that is not backed by fact...yes,
Sunday School falls into that category.
Think about it.
Westerners are typically Christian. Indians are typically Hindu. Middle-East are typically Muslim. This is all due to regionalized brainwashing. They all think they are right, but none have any proof. Mormons fall into this category as well.
Think about it.
Westerners are typically Christian. Indians are typically Hindu. Middle-East are typically Muslim. This is all due to regionalized brainwashing. They all think they are right, but none have any proof. Mormons fall into this category as well.
Ronald A. Young | 4:27 p.m. April 17, 2008
Good! However, lets watch out for the Religious Freedom Issue. This is America.
As long as Federal and State Laws are being complied with, then FLDS need to be
left in peace. That said the State of Texas, Utah, Arizona, and other places now
have Probable Cause to Investigate, some need a Report in order to take action
some do not. I want the FLDS Religious Freedoms protected because if you do not
there will soon be another group that attention is brought to, and then another,
and we do not need that. You have the right to believe in anything you want to
believe in legal or moral or not. The problem comes when you break State and
Federal Laws. The action of you belief. You may be Homosexual but if you never
act upon it you can still be an outstanding member of the Church. Your just most
likely a single. Unless you Merry as a cover up. Point is in America you do not
Merry more then One Wife and you do not merry and have Sex with underage girls.
Segments of this Group have done this and this is what must be stopped.
awesomeron | 4:45 p.m. April 17, 2008
I really only care about the victims, and the Victims being taken care of. That
said, I do not want Religious Freedom to Become a Victim. In America you have
Freedom of Religion and Freedom From Religion. No matter how you where born. No
one can make you be anything after age 18. No one can be allowed to break a
State or Federal Law and cover it as being part of their Culture or Religion.
More so if the Breaking of the Law involves another person. Such as Forced
Marriage, Marriage Underage, or Sex with underage people. Drinking, Smoking, or
what ever. You cannot perform FGM on someone, or hunt them down and kill them
because they merry outside the faith or embrace another faith. Because all of
that is against the Law in the USA. You can at 17 put someone in Outward Bound
Programs who is not following Church Standards. Your $30,000. However, the Verse
after Honor the Mother and Father, so their day may be long. Says. Parents do
not provoke your Children to Wrath. Just a thought.
Anonymous | 4:41 p.m. April 17, 2008
Skanky religion.
Skanky old men.
Skanky way of life.
May God have mercy on their souls!
Skanky old men.
Skanky way of life.
May God have mercy on their souls!
Talisyn | 5:36 p.m. April 17, 2008
Quote:
Larry King | 1:29 p.m. Apr. 17, 2008
I watched Larry King he was asking them, have you ever seen old man marry younger women? They were evasive. Who cares about the fact that there was zero articulation in the question. End Quote
the irony of this statement had me in stitches. Has Mr. King ever had a wife his age?
Larry King | 1:29 p.m. Apr. 17, 2008
I watched Larry King he was asking them, have you ever seen old man marry younger women? They were evasive. Who cares about the fact that there was zero articulation in the question. End Quote
the irony of this statement had me in stitches. Has Mr. King ever had a wife his age?
Daniel Evensen | 5:59 p.m. April 17, 2008
Honestly, if they aren't forcing underaged teen girls into marriage, why
all the secrecy? I'm not so convinced that bigamy laws will stand up in
court these days. If the FLDS church could put an end to organized pedophilia,
they wouldn't have to hide like this.
Juan Figuroa | 6:24 p.m. April 17, 2008
Let us all wear black armbands to mourn the deaths of Due Process and Rule of
Law.
Tearing 400 children away from their families on the basis of a single dubious, anonymous -- and, I suspect, entirely fabricated -- phone call. How does this happen in America?
Most horrifying report from this debacle: "The judge must decide whether it is in the children's best interest to place them back into mainstream society."
Oh, really. Next up: The Amish. Let's get 'em, boys.
Tearing 400 children away from their families on the basis of a single dubious, anonymous -- and, I suspect, entirely fabricated -- phone call. How does this happen in America?
Most horrifying report from this debacle: "The judge must decide whether it is in the children's best interest to place them back into mainstream society."
Oh, really. Next up: The Amish. Let's get 'em, boys.
Anonymous | 6:40 p.m. April 17, 2008
On thepetitionsite there is a petition titled free-the-innocent-flds, meaning
the children. The comments are well worth reading. Here is part of one:
"The state of Texas "rescued" me 44 years ago. I ended up in an adoptive home where I really WAS abused. Here's what foster care is like. You get no answers; you are a THING. They give you new parents, and tell you to forget your old ones. You're a new happy family. The state expects this to happen because it says so. Utterly false. I know."
"The state of Texas "rescued" me 44 years ago. I ended up in an adoptive home where I really WAS abused. Here's what foster care is like. You get no answers; you are a THING. They give you new parents, and tell you to forget your old ones. You're a new happy family. The state expects this to happen because it says so. Utterly false. I know."
sprd | 7:01 p.m. April 17, 2008
This question was asked before and I saw No Answer so I will ask it NOW. Where
are the boys? Out of over 410 children only 24 boys were found !!! This in
itself is very strange...
Contrarian | 7:40 p.m. April 17, 2008
Religious brainwashing is only one type of mind control and certainly is not the
most prevalent. When one's sources of information are limited to public
schools and a controlled media the result is people who do not know what
constitutional rights are, what due process is, and have no historical
perspective. With no personal knowledge of people different from themselves,
they simply project onto others, the unexamined contents of their own minds. It
isn't surprising that the primary ingredient of such minds is sex.
rural utah | 8:17 p.m. April 17, 2008
we have some polygamist children at our local high school. They are very
respectful and intelligent teenagers. If they would stop with the underage
marriages then in my book they are good folks. They love their children and
raise them to be their best and respectful to adults and to each other.
Consenting adult can believe and live how they want. Just be smart and leave
the child marriages alone, god nor the government would not favor taking
advantage of innocent children.
brainwashing | 10:02 p.m. April 17, 2008
It involves manipulation and control of some kind. There are many people taught
about religion in an environment of open learning and discussion.
If you extend the definition to all kinds of 'indoctrination', then science teachers would also be included and I don't think most religion-bashers here would want that. These same people have no idea of the penalties involved in closed communities where brainwashing occurs.
So many converts are individuals taught initially outside any community or congregation that you could not consider this a form a brainwashing.
One litmus test for believers and non-believers: are you afraid of other ideas??
If you extend the definition to all kinds of 'indoctrination', then science teachers would also be included and I don't think most religion-bashers here would want that. These same people have no idea of the penalties involved in closed communities where brainwashing occurs.
So many converts are individuals taught initially outside any community or congregation that you could not consider this a form a brainwashing.
One litmus test for believers and non-believers: are you afraid of other ideas??
Dee-dee | 11:29 p.m. April 17, 2008
Did any of you GET what "AN ANSWER" said?
Texas sure has. And they did not go in just because
of "SARAH". Have you read other accounts on the
price women and children pay if they want to leave
the FLDS life and get caught? Believe me, Texas
has other information that has not come out yet.
Why do you think they want DNA? FUMERASE DEFICIENCY!
Do you want tax dollars to go to funding BIRTH DEFECTS caused by arranged marriages with relatives?
AZ. and Utah did it for YEARS and Texas officials
will not turn a blind eye with their heads stuck in
the sand, thank God!
Read, read other articles and then you will GET IT
and stop enabling the tragic situation here!
Constitutional rights do not include inflicting
ignorance of birth defects on innocent children!
Texas sure has. And they did not go in just because
of "SARAH". Have you read other accounts on the
price women and children pay if they want to leave
the FLDS life and get caught? Believe me, Texas
has other information that has not come out yet.
Why do you think they want DNA? FUMERASE DEFICIENCY!
Do you want tax dollars to go to funding BIRTH DEFECTS caused by arranged marriages with relatives?
AZ. and Utah did it for YEARS and Texas officials
will not turn a blind eye with their heads stuck in
the sand, thank God!
Read, read other articles and then you will GET IT
and stop enabling the tragic situation here!
Constitutional rights do not include inflicting
ignorance of birth defects on innocent children!
Laneah | 2:33 a.m. April 18, 2008
I just saw Carolyn Jessop speak out on Nancy Grace.
She related how her ex-husband FLDS leader took her
baby son and spanked his bottom repeatedly until
he cried until he was exhausted. Then her helpless
baby was placed under a water faucet where he would
cry more. The process was repeated, which he called
"breaking them". This instilled so much fear into the child that they would be afraid of their father. The mother, (Carolyn), was young and pregnant with a second child, with severe morning
sickness, couldn't fight this man, and HER FEAR WAS
THAT IF SHE FOUGHT HIM, HE WOULD HURT HER CHILD MORE! Folks, these sweet women you may be seeing
being interviewed on CNN are not going to give the
real story because they live in fear. They have lived in it so long they believe it is normal.
The person on Nancy Grace's panel was so grieved
by Carolyn's story that she cried on air! I cried,too!
Not every "family" at this compound in El Dorado
will have a story like this, but as the psychologist
on Nancy's show put it, some mothers don't recognize
what abuse is.
"RELIGIOUS FREEDOM"?? PRAY THIS SICKNESS STOPS!
She related how her ex-husband FLDS leader took her
baby son and spanked his bottom repeatedly until
he cried until he was exhausted. Then her helpless
baby was placed under a water faucet where he would
cry more. The process was repeated, which he called
"breaking them". This instilled so much fear into the child that they would be afraid of their father. The mother, (Carolyn), was young and pregnant with a second child, with severe morning
sickness, couldn't fight this man, and HER FEAR WAS
THAT IF SHE FOUGHT HIM, HE WOULD HURT HER CHILD MORE! Folks, these sweet women you may be seeing
being interviewed on CNN are not going to give the
real story because they live in fear. They have lived in it so long they believe it is normal.
The person on Nancy Grace's panel was so grieved
by Carolyn's story that she cried on air! I cried,too!
Not every "family" at this compound in El Dorado
will have a story like this, but as the psychologist
on Nancy's show put it, some mothers don't recognize
what abuse is.
"RELIGIOUS FREEDOM"?? PRAY THIS SICKNESS STOPS!
A Right to Die For | 10:56 a.m. April 18, 2008
What the police agencies have done is far worse than anything "proven"
to date against the FLDS church in El Dorado. I'm not an LDS member and am
part of a mainstream Christian religion. The state has virtually made these
terrified children orphans, housing them in a dome, what horrible conditions
they must endure. Armed vehicles and drawn guns, snipers, you got to be
kidding. Where is our religious liberty here? We cannot protect our own rights
to religious freedom without protecting all other practices. Ask any judge, the
state is terrible at handling children removed from their parents. How long will
this legal fiasco continue?
Adam | 12:56 a.m. April 20, 2008
It shouldn't be a crime to believe or teach your children isolationist
principles. Yet these people are basically being punished for teaching their
kids a different world view. I say this is modern day persecution.
Ann Inderlied | 4:07 p.m. April 20, 2008
These poor women are no higher in life than a bunch of brood mares.I don`t know
how people can refer to the women as "consenting adults" when they are
held captive by the very act of bearing all these children and then not being
able to leave with the children if they wanted to as the men would hold the
children as a means to control. What I think is sad is one doesn`t see a swing
set on the grass or any kind of toy anywhere on the wives little tours.Yet they
say the children play on the grass? Where are the teen age boys? There doesn`t
seem to be any in evidence....only females and small boys... very strange.It is
very sad that the husbands that these women must be so obedient to are hiding
behind their skirts and directing them from afar. Consenting adults??? I hardly
think so.
in texas | 12:36 p.m. April 22, 2008
i am in a town near the eldorado compound where some of the children have been
brought to. i have seen these children playing with government employees...the
small ones play with little bikes, push toys and balls....the big kids (approx
8-12) are playing catch and soccor, laughing and having fun....these kids were
not being reserved and withdrawn as noticed when they were with thier
"parents". on the compound where was the entertainment and childlike
fun for thses kids...i'm not talking new age....but something besides dirt
and grass. i have also been in the system and can say they could only benefit
from it. if nothing else is gained maybe they learned that they are individuals
that can make decisions for themselves. if these children are sent back i hope
whoever has these children takes these moments as an oppurtunity to show them
that they have personal rights beyond religion.
K. Beverly | 7:37 p.m. April 24, 2008
With regard to the speech patterns, the members of this faith have led a very
closed life. It is similar to the Amish, they also have a very distinctive
speech pattern. The men speak in the same pattern. I would just urge everyone
to wait until we get the exact truth of the allegations. The only crime (and I
do not mean to diminish it) alleged by the state is sexual assault of a child,
that is sexual liasons with young women under the age of 17. Who did it is
unknown. Where it occurred is unknown. In Texas, it is a defense if the person
having sex with a 15 year old and within 3 years of her age, and not related to
her so as to constitute incest.
Freedom for FLDS | 10:25 a.m. May 7, 2008
I am relieved that the state of Texas finally did what no other state would.
They are finally stopping the cycle of abuse. The women of the FLDS compound
are emotionally abused and treated like dogs. The children are worse off - boys
who don't conform are sent away to live in poverty, girls are spiritually
married to old men & sexually abused, and children are told they cannot read
books or play with toys - they must work or listen to the crazy rants of Warren
Jeffs. This is obscene! How can we let this happen in America? These women
and children aren't able to make decisions - they are forced into sexual
slavery. K. Beverly, wait? WAIT FOR WHAT? For more women & children to be
abused? K. Beverly, I want to know if you had the choice to marry a man of your
own free will, at a legal age. If you missed it, this is the most horrific
crime being tolerated in America today - us allowing young women to become FLDS
sexual slaves. Shame on you & all who think this is ok.
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