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Texas officials defend separation of FLDS children and parents
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WRONG | 2:59 p.m. April 15, 2008
These govt officials have no idea how wrong they are because they are sure
they're right. You can justify almost anything to protect the children but
they are just wrong to go to extreme measures so they can get out of the
children the kind of responses they are looking for. This is just Wrong.
Right | 3:04 p.m. April 15, 2008
WRONG....you are sooooo right.
Where is Truth? | 3:13 p.m. April 15, 2008
The truth will be told.
"Don't Mess With Texas" You're too big for your boots! Remember Texas - Pride Goeth Before the Fall. Heaven help the people of the United States who have turned a blind eye and deaf ear to the truth. From Napoleon Hill "No accurate thinker will judge another person by that which the other person's enemies say about him."
"Don't Mess With Texas" You're too big for your boots! Remember Texas - Pride Goeth Before the Fall. Heaven help the people of the United States who have turned a blind eye and deaf ear to the truth. From Napoleon Hill "No accurate thinker will judge another person by that which the other person's enemies say about him."
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Anonymous | 3:16 p.m. April 15, 2008
My son was abused while in someone elses care. I took him to an interview with
CPS. They took him to a room without me. This is the best way to get the real
story out of children. My son would have been guarded with his story even in my
presence. It was difficult for me to just wait, but I did. I was not under
investigation, I had already been cleared.
This seperation from home and family is normal and has been done for years.
This seperation from home and family is normal and has been done for years.
BenM | 3:34 p.m. April 15, 2008
So the right thing to do would be do nothing while children are being sexually
abused by 50-plus-year-old men? Unbelievable. This isn't about religion.
This isn't about polygamy. It's about rampant child abuse. Lord
willing, those children will never have to go back.
RIGHT | 3:37 p.m. April 15, 2008
Texas authorities did absolutely the right thing to protect the children abuse.
To say that Texas authorities "orchestrated" 13-16 y/o girls to be
pregnant and/or mothers in forced marriages is beyond ludicrous. It's about
time someone did something to stop the abuse.
Robert Allen | 3:42 p.m. April 15, 2008
If the Texas officials suspect that the children are not safe with the men at
the ranch, why didn't they remove the men instead of the mothers and
children?
TO WRONG | 3:46 p.m. April 15, 2008
I just wonder - do you have MORE facts about this case than the rest of us who
only know what we hear on TV or read in the paper? I just wonder how many facts
you have that even the "govt officials" don't have that could
make you KNOW that they are so wrong.
I certainly don't think all of the facts are being given out.
I certainly don't think all of the facts are being given out.
re: wrong | 3:46 p.m. April 15, 2008
The only thing wrong here is the systematice abuse and rape of young girls and
disowning and neglecting young boys.
To Anonymous | 3:56 p.m. April 15, 2008
That's the way it's supposed to be done.
Hard, wasn't it?
CPS is doing it the correct way. Some people on here need to get a reality check.
Hard, wasn't it?
CPS is doing it the correct way. Some people on here need to get a reality check.
To Wrong and Right | 4:01 p.m. April 15, 2008
There are rules CPS has to go by. They're following the rules and you say
they're wrong. WRONG, you're wrong.
To Where Is Truth? It's where you find it as you amply have demonstrated. Don't Mess with Texas is on all the garbage cans for a reason. Don't come here with your mess. The FLDS brought a mess. These people are their own worst enemies, Napoleon. Now the courts will have to sort out what they neglected to do. Is that so hard to understand?
To Where Is Truth? It's where you find it as you amply have demonstrated. Don't Mess with Texas is on all the garbage cans for a reason. Don't come here with your mess. The FLDS brought a mess. These people are their own worst enemies, Napoleon. Now the courts will have to sort out what they neglected to do. Is that so hard to understand?
WRONG AND RIGHT | 4:07 p.m. April 15, 2008
You know what was wrong, to let these mothers go with the children, I was very
surprised about this, this community's existence is based on brain washing
and constant promptings when out in society. You know what was right, that the
authorities finally got the mothers out of there, and they are doing a heck of a
job trying to sabotage the safety of theirs or someone else's children.
These children need to have a safe voice, and if facts start to come out, then
these parents could lose "ownership" of these children. Children will
adapt to a loving family, we have a family in our ward with six adopted
children, their last one was six when they got him, he is so happy. I am sorry
for the mothers to be separated from their children, but if they didn't
protect them, they do not deserve to keep those children. People do not
understand that there is a lot of twisted and cruel things that this group will
do, ask the father's who were kicked out and their wives and children were
taken away from them.
Brandon | 4:10 p.m. April 15, 2008
Texas was 100% right to do what it did do and what it is doing. It's too
bad we have those in society who tie the hands of law enforcement and government
to the point they have to wait for bodies before they can act.
Texas CPS and DPS are the finest.
Texas CPS and DPS are the finest.
Mike | 4:25 p.m. April 15, 2008
How long before allegations of interviewers misleading children during the
interviews? How long before someone mentions that the children aren't
getting the best legal representation since some of the lawyers don't
specialize in family law (and none in polygamy)? Not long in my opinion.
How long before other minority groups or the ACLU etc. speaks out against this treatment? If history is any guide, very long.
How long before other minority groups or the ACLU etc. speaks out against this treatment? If history is any guide, very long.
Wondering | 4:37 p.m. April 15, 2008
It appears Texas continues to try and do the right thing.
I am wondering how many of these anti-Texas posts come from the same individuals, supporters of the FLDS community, who are trying to influence public perceptions.
It is not working.
I am wondering how many of these anti-Texas posts come from the same individuals, supporters of the FLDS community, who are trying to influence public perceptions.
It is not working.
Evan | 4:34 p.m. April 15, 2008
There are too many conspiracy buffs on here with all the wild stories of things
that never happened.
This is an abuse investigation. Let it run it's course. Stop entering wild, unproven, comments that are not helpful to either side.
Like it or not the government does function in spite of those who do everything in their power to make it hard and impossible to function.
This is an abuse investigation. Let it run it's course. Stop entering wild, unproven, comments that are not helpful to either side.
Like it or not the government does function in spite of those who do everything in their power to make it hard and impossible to function.
To Mike | 4:36 p.m. April 15, 2008
The questions will be very blunt and to the point. The only question is will the
children reply or will they be afraid to reply.
Your scenario lacks credability. You sound like an ACLU poster boy.
Your scenario lacks credability. You sound like an ACLU poster boy.
Lawyers representing the child? | 4:43 p.m. April 15, 2008
SO... the lawyers are there to represent the child (not CPS). So before they
even get to speak to their client (the child) they have to be briefed by CPS?
What's up with that?
Maybe the Lawyers should try meeting with their clients BEFORE meeting with CPS to see what their clients wants/needs are. Or is what CPS wants the first and only priority in this case?
Maybe the Lawyers should try meeting with their clients BEFORE meeting with CPS to see what their clients wants/needs are. Or is what CPS wants the first and only priority in this case?
Tired! | 4:58 p.m. April 15, 2008
We all keep rehashing the same things day after day. It all boils down to: What
is best for the children. Stay in the life style they are used to! ie: Under age
sex/marriages! Mental and physical crultey or: Puting an end to it now while
there is still hope for a normal life. "The lawful thing to do"!
The children may be suffering now but in the long run, it is the best thing that could be happening to them.
The children may be suffering now but in the long run, it is the best thing that could be happening to them.
Mike Las Vegas | 5:02 p.m. April 15, 2008
I'm sure that the CPS people have real concern for the children as do I and
everyone else that is normal, but, has anyone ask if they share the same concern
for the children living in the bad neighborhoods in Houston and Dallas who face
real day to day physical danger and who's mother's live with
"Uncle" so an so who do the girls on a regualar basis??????? I think
not.... Taking similar action in such neighborhoods whould not be so
"P.C."....The Gastapo only picks on the weak....
Jack | 5:09 p.m. April 15, 2008
Texas Dept of Health stats indicate that throughout Texas, 1 in 40 girls between
age 13 - 16 have had babies. Will CPS take all 13 -16 year old girls into state
custody? Stopping abuse is necessary. Rounding up all the children is not.
Civil Rights haven't got to Texas yet.
the long arm of the law | 5:49 p.m. April 15, 2008
What is it about breaking the law don't you people understand?
Doesn't God want laws to be upheld?
Doesn't God want laws to be upheld?
Rebecca | 5:43 p.m. April 15, 2008
It is interesting that people in America can sit back and watch (ignore?) the
suffering of the urban poor children and say to themselves, "It's a
shame, but there's not much we can do about it" while they are ready,
whether constitutional or not, to do whatever it takes to protect the offspring
of polygamists. It's not about the children; its about the
"weirdness" of the polygamists' beliefs.
I have a hard time believing that these kids are happy or relieved to be away from their parents where they can open up and tell strangers how terrible the adults in their community are. I believe they are likely scared to death to be away from everything they have ever known.
Do people really believe that the foster homes into which these kids will be placed will be better for the kids than with their biological parents? This is not over. It might not be for several months, or even years, but this is going to come back to hurt Texas.
I have a hard time believing that these kids are happy or relieved to be away from their parents where they can open up and tell strangers how terrible the adults in their community are. I believe they are likely scared to death to be away from everything they have ever known.
Do people really believe that the foster homes into which these kids will be placed will be better for the kids than with their biological parents? This is not over. It might not be for several months, or even years, but this is going to come back to hurt Texas.
to: Rebecca | 6:05 p.m. April 15, 2008
A happy child will have no problem with adjusting to changes in their
enviroment. An abused child will take a lot of baggage with them and have a hard
time opening up and trusting anyone.
Court appointed.... | 6:11 p.m. April 15, 2008
Lawyers work for the state not the client they are assigned to. The judge, CPS
and court appointed lawyers all work for the same person - get their paychecks
from the same agency. This is why anyone who has a court appointed attorney
never wins their case and is usually bullied into doing what the state wants
concerning the situation.
the burning question | 6:28 p.m. April 15, 2008
What would Joseph Smith do?
to: | 6:33 p.m. April 15, 2008
Huh? As a foster parent, I can tell you that the 'happy' ones have
just as much difficulty adjusting to the new environment as the
'unhappy' ones. I've sat up nights with kids who were beat so
bad, they almost died, but they are crying for the parents that beat them. The
state of Texas has overstepped it's bounds. They changed the laws to get
the FLDS, and finally, they think they succeeded. I hope that every child is
either returned, or ever 13-16 yr old who is preganant in the state of Texas, is
picked up and put in foster care. Can't have the double standards.
John S. | 6:32 p.m. April 15, 2008
I think Texas will have egg on their face before they are done. Taking children
away from their parents and home really scars the children regardless of the
circumstances of their home life. Putting children in foster care is not really
the answer.
What they should have done is crack down on the group and arrest every male who married an underage girl and explain to the group that they are on to them.
What they should have done is crack down on the group and arrest every male who married an underage girl and explain to the group that they are on to them.
Anonymous | 6:56 p.m. April 15, 2008
I guess the Bill of Rights is wrong. Anything for the children, like stripping
them from their families and holding them for maybe up to 18 months with no
evidence. Guilty until you can prove your own evidence. Criminalization
without being charged. And I think the hair was planted.
Proof and Evidence | 8:06 p.m. April 15, 2008
Where is the proof that 416 kids were abused?
Where is a substanciated accusation?
Where is the evidence of abuse?
Where is coroberation of the phone call?
Where is the intelligence of Texas law enforcement?
Where is the honesty of the Texas Judiciary?
Where is the constitution?
Where is a substanciated accusation?
Where is the evidence of abuse?
Where is coroberation of the phone call?
Where is the intelligence of Texas law enforcement?
Where is the honesty of the Texas Judiciary?
Where is the constitution?
UtahGram | 8:24 p.m. April 15, 2008
It seems like hauling all of the children away without investigating complaints
and children one by one should far exceed the authority of the Social Services
group. This would be like taking all of the children on the local Native
American Reservation because of pervasive alcohol and drug abuse resulting in
significant abuse percentages. There surely are big differences between
households, the way children are treated from family to family, and variations
in marriage ages. To treat the group this way appears much like the Japanese,
Chinese Interment Camps. There was little cause, but a big effect. Taking all
of the children cannot have been a wise choice.
Blind Eye? | 8:29 p.m. April 15, 2008
Everyone sees
Yes this is suposed to be America
Utah treats the people the worst
Many innocent people are in jail
Prosecutors and Judges are the problem
No one willing to take responcibility to lock these people up
There is no Justice in Utah
Stay away
Yes this is suposed to be America
Utah treats the people the worst
Many innocent people are in jail
Prosecutors and Judges are the problem
No one willing to take responcibility to lock these people up
There is no Justice in Utah
Stay away
Michelle | 8:40 p.m. April 15, 2008
I agree. If you are going to crack down on these teen marriages and pregnancy,
you need to round up every pregnant teen under 16 and their siblings and put
them in foster care too. This is a direct attack against the FLDS, they are
using the children to get them out of Texas. I LOVE Texas, but CPS needs to be
overhauled. I have personally experienced their inabililty to do the correct
thing in an alleged abuse situation. And let's all keep in mind that their
must be proof in each child's situation of abuse occuring BEFORE they are
removed from the home. If any geniune abuse occured, I believe the child should
be removed AFTER proof of the abuse has been found...not on one phone call!!
Contrarian | 8:51 p.m. April 15, 2008
To the person who said: "A happy child will have no problem with adjusting
to changes in their enviroment." Changes like losing their parents, their
homes, their routines, their religion, their work, and their play? You suggest
that the way to determine if a child has been abused is how well he/she adjusts
to the sudden loss of all that is familiar.
An abused child is more likely to exhibit acceptance of a new environment because he/she is relieved to be away from an abuse. In my experience it is children who are well-loved and happy at home who react negatively to being away from their parents. I have seen six year-old boys cry on the first day of school, four year-olds run out of pre-school in tears after their mothers, little ones who wet themselves, have nightmares, and older children who are terribly homesick. Add to the meddlesome mix a bunch of "therapists" who believe the children are cleverly hiding tales of sexual abuse and you have a truly bizarre, nightmarish situation. Didn't we go through this nonsense twenty years ago with trials for "satanic, ritual, sexual, child abuse"? Wasn't it the same insane, sex-obsessed adults pressuring little kids?
An abused child is more likely to exhibit acceptance of a new environment because he/she is relieved to be away from an abuse. In my experience it is children who are well-loved and happy at home who react negatively to being away from their parents. I have seen six year-old boys cry on the first day of school, four year-olds run out of pre-school in tears after their mothers, little ones who wet themselves, have nightmares, and older children who are terribly homesick. Add to the meddlesome mix a bunch of "therapists" who believe the children are cleverly hiding tales of sexual abuse and you have a truly bizarre, nightmarish situation. Didn't we go through this nonsense twenty years ago with trials for "satanic, ritual, sexual, child abuse"? Wasn't it the same insane, sex-obsessed adults pressuring little kids?
to Mike Las Vegas | 9:20 p.m. April 15, 2008
AMEN
Anonymous | 9:32 p.m. April 15, 2008
CPS in all states are always in a lose lose situation. If you go in...the
community bags you if you don't go in....the community bags you. It is a
thankless job and those who have never worked in the environment haven't
got a clue. I have inteviewed several children over the years and it is always
heart breaking to hear their stories. you never get used to it. I take my hat
off to the CPS workers in Texas for having the courage to stand up and be
counted and doing something will arm chair quarterbacks criticise.
Marleigh Meisner | 9:46 p.m. April 15, 2008
Marleigh Meisner and her band of anti-family feminists should be given a life
sentence.
This is a disaster.
Just recently our national news reported that 1 in 4 girls have an std by age 15. Bet that these 'endangered' mormons don't carry that curse.
Out society will infect them physcially and mentally. They were far better off with their Mom's than under Meisner's ilk.
This is a disaster.
Just recently our national news reported that 1 in 4 girls have an std by age 15. Bet that these 'endangered' mormons don't carry that curse.
Out society will infect them physcially and mentally. They were far better off with their Mom's than under Meisner's ilk.
What abou the law? | 10:04 p.m. April 15, 2008
The constitution is supposed to provide individuals protection from government -
that's why there are concepts like due process, equal protection, freedom
of religion, and protection from unreasonable search and seizure; all of which
seem to have been violated in this situation.
The misstep the "officials" took here was to disproportionately react to what appears to be a couple of calls from 1 allegedly abused girl among the FLDS.
Instead of responding by investigating the individual situation, they somehow found it a good idea to nab 400+ children.
The misstep the "officials" took here was to disproportionately react to what appears to be a couple of calls from 1 allegedly abused girl among the FLDS.
Instead of responding by investigating the individual situation, they somehow found it a good idea to nab 400+ children.
Sugar Momma | 10:13 p.m. April 15, 2008
When I first heard that Texas state had gone in and extracted hundreds of women
and children all based off of one phone call of abuse, I actually laughed,
thinking, Duh! You don't go to TEXAS to avoid the law! Any other state
would have investigated one home. But not Texas.
But it wasn't just a phone call. Remember Texas has had an informant of that sect's activities for four years. Thursday will show what evidence they do have, which I'm anxious to see. As a mother, it does break my heart to see the mothers' distress, but one of them flat out denied that 14-year girls get married off to older men, saying, "I've never seen something like that!"
And here the Texas CPS has a 16-year girl old with 4 children already, in custody.
o_O
I think that one bogus comment shot the credibility of any of the mothers' comments and protests. There were no actual tears, if you look. Weird.
CPS across the country doesn't have the best reputation, and neither do foster homes. I feel like most of the kids are doomed either way, unless they are outright adopted by loving people.
But it wasn't just a phone call. Remember Texas has had an informant of that sect's activities for four years. Thursday will show what evidence they do have, which I'm anxious to see. As a mother, it does break my heart to see the mothers' distress, but one of them flat out denied that 14-year girls get married off to older men, saying, "I've never seen something like that!"
And here the Texas CPS has a 16-year girl old with 4 children already, in custody.
o_O
I think that one bogus comment shot the credibility of any of the mothers' comments and protests. There were no actual tears, if you look. Weird.
CPS across the country doesn't have the best reputation, and neither do foster homes. I feel like most of the kids are doomed either way, unless they are outright adopted by loving people.
Bunk | 10:17 p.m. April 15, 2008
I wonder how many members of this sect have seen Warren Jeff's jailhouse
video where he admits that he's a fraud, and begs his brother Nephi to get
a copy of the video and show it to "gentile and apostate", and anyone
who asks. "I am the wickest man alive in this dispensation... I am not a
prophet. I never was the prophet..."
Think the sect members would start second-guessing themselves?
Think the sect members would start second-guessing themselves?
AZ 1953 | 10:22 p.m. April 15, 2008
to all you that said that this isn't going to effect the children I have a
story. In 1953 there was a raid on this same sect. they took the fathers to jail
and the mothers and children got scattered all over the state. on the utah side
of the town AZ had no say, but the government decided to do a test to see if
they could get away with the same thing. they picked a young girl that had some
children and took them from her. it took her over a year to get them back but
she did get them back. she had a boy that whas handy-capped from that time on.
he would run and hide if someone came to the door. that is the way it will
effect theses 400+ kids.
if you want to look it up the lady was Vera Johnson Black.
if you want to look it up the lady was Vera Johnson Black.
Ronald A. Young | 10:29 p.m. April 15, 2008
Good for Texas CPS stepped up and did the right thing. Good Job "keep on
keeping on.� Removing the kids from the parents and each
other is common during an investigation. It will take awhile but these victims
will begin to Roll over on their oppressors and talk. Once the brain washing
begins to wear off and the light of day is seen and the sight is a bright day
then some will sing like hungry song birds in the new morning dew. The cell
phones where used for the purpose of control. Supervised and wired visits should
be allowed after the investigation is done. The list of broken laws is
legion.
Sad Story | 10:25 p.m. April 15, 2008
Listen to the mothers on the ranch...they have a strange "programmed"
manner of speech, with almost childlike innocence. It's heartbreaking,
really. I do feel for the mothers on a basic human level, but they essentially
brought it on themselves by their leadership's arrogant disregard for the
law and common decency toward some of their young. This has been well
documented by Carolyn Jessop and others. Also..how can investigators get to the
truth with FLDS leadership hovering around? They had to be separated, at least
temporarily, especially since many wouldn't own up to parentage, ages, etc.
Hopefully moving forward there will be no more suffering. Allow authorities to monitor their activities they way CPS would do in any potential child abuse case. And puleeze, FLDS supporters, quit saying that a 14 or 15 year old girl enters these marriages willingly. They are going through the motions because they are trained to comply and "be sweet." I was a teenage girl once...believe me, any man over 30 was old and disgusting. Sorry.
Hopefully moving forward there will be no more suffering. Allow authorities to monitor their activities they way CPS would do in any potential child abuse case. And puleeze, FLDS supporters, quit saying that a 14 or 15 year old girl enters these marriages willingly. They are going through the motions because they are trained to comply and "be sweet." I was a teenage girl once...believe me, any man over 30 was old and disgusting. Sorry.
Anonymous | 10:33 p.m. April 15, 2008
"Rep. Drew Darby, R-San Angelo, praised state efforts in connection with
the FLDS raid and said, 'Don't mess with the children of
Texas."'
Ummm, Drew, I think you just did mess with the children of Texas. Nice quote though. Maybe you'll be included in the myriad law suits that will play out over the next 10 years costing millions in court fees and (no doubt) awards. Or maybe somebody will call CPS on you and tell them that you are abusing your kids. Will it be a lie? Sure. Will it matter? Obviously not.
Ummm, Drew, I think you just did mess with the children of Texas. Nice quote though. Maybe you'll be included in the myriad law suits that will play out over the next 10 years costing millions in court fees and (no doubt) awards. Or maybe somebody will call CPS on you and tell them that you are abusing your kids. Will it be a lie? Sure. Will it matter? Obviously not.
"Be Sweet" ...creepy | 10:36 p.m. April 15, 2008
Please. I was a teenage girl once...any man over 30 was gross. Sorry. These
girls enter marriages because they are trained to be "sweet." By the
way, the crying mothers on the interviews had a strange, child-like manner to
their speech. It was heartbreaking to hear, but weird.
Moving forward, the CPS will have to be allowed to closely monitor activities on the ranch, the way they would do in any potential abuse case. We can't have a repeat situtation like this. And the men on the ranch can come to the middle alittle bit here. Wait till the girls turn 18. It's their arrogance and flagrant disregard for common decency that put them in this situation as documented by Carolyn Jessop and others reporting abuse.
Moving forward, the CPS will have to be allowed to closely monitor activities on the ranch, the way they would do in any potential abuse case. We can't have a repeat situtation like this. And the men on the ranch can come to the middle alittle bit here. Wait till the girls turn 18. It's their arrogance and flagrant disregard for common decency that put them in this situation as documented by Carolyn Jessop and others reporting abuse.
Jen Shostak | 11:00 p.m. April 15, 2008
"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men,
deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any
Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the
People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its
foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them
shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed,
will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light
and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind
are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right
themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long
train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a
design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their
duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future
security."
Tragedy | 11:17 p.m. April 15, 2008
Unfortunately, statistically every large neighborhood in US probably has a child
molester living in it. CPS doesn�t go into these
neighborhoods with armored vehicles and take all the children away. There is no
question that removing a 5 or 6 year olds from their mothers and families is
traumatizing and abusive. If there is evidence that men are abusing children,
take the men, not the children and do it on a case by case basis, not for an
entire community. The children could have been interviewed individually, one by
one and then returned to their mothers. This terrible abuse of power undermines
the legitimate and important role of CPS, is abusive and traumatizing to the
children, and is a terrible tragedy. I would love to see polygamy stopped. I
would love to see this group dissolve, but not with this type of abuse. Abuse
doesn�t stop abuse.
Ronald A. Young | 1:04 a.m. April 16, 2008
Had the Raid not taken place and total in the way it was conducted. Fast, Clean,
Complete, No Shots Fired, No one Dead or injured. Some people up set but oh
well. How else would the Abuse been stopped. Putting Jeff�s
in Jail did no good, things just continued on. My have even gotten worse. Now
the Abuse has ended and the people who think the way the State went in and
taking all the kids was not proper it was. In Sex Abuse Cases you take both the
Victims and the siblings, at least until it is all sorted out. Weather or not
the 1st call legit, truth was found that made the State of Texas correct in
their actions. Because they lived in the same compound that and moved the kids
and wife's around that it made it like one big house and to get things
sorted out everyone had to go. Now most of the Women have gone back. After all
abuse is their life and after awhile if you are subject to it all the time it
hard to live with out. It is their belief system. But it is against the Law.
Texan | 9:01 a.m. April 17, 2008
No, the raid was not correct or just and by allowing the actions of the state
agents, the state has abused these children and their parents. If there is
"just cause", produce the warrant, arrest those NAMED in the warrant,
and then start the proceedings for a trial. So far, we have had nothing but
allegations, by an extremely questionable source which has not been identified
beyond what amounts to an anonymous telephone call. No one has been convicted of
any crime in direct relationship to this- the state of Texas has acted very
contemptibly.
Texan
Texan
Thomas ACLU poster boy | 1:08 p.m. April 17, 2008
If this was a fair world these children never would have been taken. But this is
Texas.
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