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BellaMia | 2:36 a.m. April 9, 2008
A recent congressional report stated that 9% of children in public school will
be sexual assaulted or harassed by a school employee between K-12th grade. Why
don't authorities empty out the schools when a teacher is found to have
been doing this under the noses of the administrators and other teachers.
Obviously that would be over-reaching. This Texas action is unprecedented but
will it have legal merit. Have they ever found the alleged victim?
re: BellaMia | 6:49 a.m. April 9, 2008
Would all you whinies just stop whining and pretend your 16 and pregnant and
abused?
DeLaval Milker | 7:00 a.m. April 9, 2008
Texas' response may be larger than anything Utah has ever had to muster.
Is that because we don't have the problem in Utah, or are ignoring it?
Is that because we don't have the problem in Utah, or are ignoring it?
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Jonson | 7:08 a.m. April 9, 2008
FOR SALE:
Small town in Texas. Complete with large church.
Multiple tumble weeds blowing through town on windy days.
Small town in Texas. Complete with large church.
Multiple tumble weeds blowing through town on windy days.
Jonson | 7:05 a.m. April 9, 2008
Bella mia
"Have they ever found the alleged victim? "
I understand they have found lots of victims - pregnant children and children with babies.
Want to see pictures?
"Have they ever found the alleged victim? "
I understand they have found lots of victims - pregnant children and children with babies.
Want to see pictures?
One child | 7:42 a.m. April 9, 2008
In my stake gets abused, calls in (and no one can find her, or id her) and the
police come at stake conference and rip all the kids out loving homes and arms.
It's about the same amount.
If abuse is happening, proscute THOSE case. Don't punnish everyone, because of the actions of a few. You won't come get my kids, because the guy down the street abused a kid. I hope the USSC weighs in on this one REAL quick.
And for those who think Utah turns a blind eye? Think "Kingston" last year. When abuse is happening, the kids are removed. But not all polygamous relationships are abusive.
If abuse is happening, proscute THOSE case. Don't punnish everyone, because of the actions of a few. You won't come get my kids, because the guy down the street abused a kid. I hope the USSC weighs in on this one REAL quick.
And for those who think Utah turns a blind eye? Think "Kingston" last year. When abuse is happening, the kids are removed. But not all polygamous relationships are abusive.
orion | 7:45 a.m. April 9, 2008
Texas did what Utah and Arizona should have had the courage to do years ago. The
abuses of young women forced to marry against their will at any age is an
outrage.
janet | 8:01 a.m. April 9, 2008
being pregnant does not equate being a victim. being a child doesn't make
you a victim either. about seventeen or so years ago Texas had a big rally on
the lawns of it's capital. homeschoolers were rallying for the right to be
homeschooling. many had been rounded up and taken by CPS previous to that time.
texas has a fear mentality.
Matthew | 8:07 a.m. April 9, 2008
Hey Jonson, what is your definition 'children'? Given that more than
half of US 'teenagers' are sexually active, where does the general
population get off being indigent that this group at least has their sexually
active teenagers getting married first. Are parents that allow their 16 year
old daughter to have had 5, 6, or more sexual partners 'better'
parents than those that allow their daughter to be married to an older man? I
don't see what sound reasoning would support that, even though I think both
are wrong.
So far as I've read, this all still came about due to a false report of abuse of a non-existent 16 year old by a man that wasn't even in Texas at the time. Maybe the final facts will be different, but right now it sure looks like Texas acted on false information and is guilt of hypocrisy and violating these people's constitutional rights.
So far as I've read, this all still came about due to a false report of abuse of a non-existent 16 year old by a man that wasn't even in Texas at the time. Maybe the final facts will be different, but right now it sure looks like Texas acted on false information and is guilt of hypocrisy and violating these people's constitutional rights.
ediddy | 8:48 a.m. April 9, 2008
Anyone ever hear of the term "habeas corpus?" What it means in
simplified english is, "produce the body." Produce the evidence or
back off until you can. Texas complains that they have insufficient means to
deal with the 416 children taken into CPS custody. Maybe it's because they
have way overstepped their constitutional authority without due process. That
one or some of the children may have been neglected or abused is a distinct
possibility, but blanket police action without habeas corpus is a 4th amendment
violation. The dislike of polygamy, of itself does not give a government entity
the right to infringe on the constitutional right against illegal search and
seizure.
Lane Meyer | 8:55 a.m. April 9, 2008
This case is an unprecedented outrage. Those folks have been found guilty by
association and in the end that will NOT hold up in court. Such a clear blatant
flagrant violation of human rights is taking place there in the great state of
Texas and history will show it to ba a stain on law enforcement as short creek
is here in Utah. I wonder how this case would be viewed if it were taking place
in China or Tibet??
I also wonder how many constitutional attorneys have offered to contribute to this case pro bono. I hope there are many. From my far off vantage point it is so obviously a clear cut case. The Supreme court will end up declining to hear this case I suspect.
I also wonder how many constitutional attorneys have offered to contribute to this case pro bono. I hope there are many. From my far off vantage point it is so obviously a clear cut case. The Supreme court will end up declining to hear this case I suspect.
ediddy | 9:01 a.m. April 9, 2008
Does it concern anyone else that one persons opinion of another persons actions
seems to be good enough reason to enforce that opinion by law?
I hate smoking (not smokers). Do I have the right to bar them from smoking? I fear people who abuse firearms. Do I have the right to ban guns? I don't like hateful words. Do I have the right to prevent you from speaking? I don't like your religion. Do I have the right to prevent you from believing? At some point, your disapproving finger may point at me. who will stand up for my rights then?? I don't approve of polygamy, but that gives me no right to bypass a polygamist's right to constitutional acess!
I hate smoking (not smokers). Do I have the right to bar them from smoking? I fear people who abuse firearms. Do I have the right to ban guns? I don't like hateful words. Do I have the right to prevent you from speaking? I don't like your religion. Do I have the right to prevent you from believing? At some point, your disapproving finger may point at me. who will stand up for my rights then?? I don't approve of polygamy, but that gives me no right to bypass a polygamist's right to constitutional acess!
Wombat | 8:59 a.m. April 9, 2008
Matthew
All those teens that you are talking about, having 5, 6, or more sexual partners are having sex with THE PEOPLE THEY CHOOSE. Are you saying that it is better to force your daughter or allow her to be forced to marry a man old enough to be her father or grandfather. That is sick and abusive.
Also, you do not know that the 16 year old that started all this gave a false report or not.
I thank God that I am from Texas. Dont know where you are from but glad me and my daughter are not there.
All those teens that you are talking about, having 5, 6, or more sexual partners are having sex with THE PEOPLE THEY CHOOSE. Are you saying that it is better to force your daughter or allow her to be forced to marry a man old enough to be her father or grandfather. That is sick and abusive.
Also, you do not know that the 16 year old that started all this gave a false report or not.
I thank God that I am from Texas. Dont know where you are from but glad me and my daughter are not there.
Unbelievable!! | 9:10 a.m. April 9, 2008
Some of you are unbelievable!! THINK ABOUT IT!
These are children whom are being raised and taught that this is not only the norm, but the expected!
Let's just pretend that a similar situation DID occur in your stake. So..., numerous members of the law show up and, upon seeing several young girls in the same area pregnant, begin an investigation. THEN the real facts emerge: 1. All children (male and female)in your stake are being raised to believe this is the way life should be, and 2. They are also being told that if they seek outside help horrible, and possibly worse, things will happen to them. Hello?? Doesn't that put a little more urgency in the situation? The very reason this would not occur in our stakes is because IT DOES NOT occur in our stakes! There are sickos in every religion, but this was a town of them! THIS is their religion!
No one could raise their child to believe that murder or robbery was o.k. and justified, and not have the law intervene, on behalf of the child, in the name of abuse. And thank heaven they do! Otherwise, consider the alternative!!!!
THINK ABOUT IT!!
These are children whom are being raised and taught that this is not only the norm, but the expected!
Let's just pretend that a similar situation DID occur in your stake. So..., numerous members of the law show up and, upon seeing several young girls in the same area pregnant, begin an investigation. THEN the real facts emerge: 1. All children (male and female)in your stake are being raised to believe this is the way life should be, and 2. They are also being told that if they seek outside help horrible, and possibly worse, things will happen to them. Hello?? Doesn't that put a little more urgency in the situation? The very reason this would not occur in our stakes is because IT DOES NOT occur in our stakes! There are sickos in every religion, but this was a town of them! THIS is their religion!
No one could raise their child to believe that murder or robbery was o.k. and justified, and not have the law intervene, on behalf of the child, in the name of abuse. And thank heaven they do! Otherwise, consider the alternative!!!!
THINK ABOUT IT!!
To janet: | 9:15 a.m. April 9, 2008
Your story of CPS taking homeschooled children has no basis. CPS takes children
on the basis of abuse and yes some parents who homeschool their children, just
like regular parents do abuse them.
Get the subject in the right place for pete's sake.
To ediddy:
We're bring the 416 children to live with you, NOW. Put up or shut up. They weren't taken because of polygamy, the charge was ABUSE or can't you read and understand. Trust me they have many "bodies". Due process was observed. You have no grounds for saying it wasn't.
Texans act, non-mo's whine.
Get the subject in the right place for pete's sake.
To ediddy:
We're bring the 416 children to live with you, NOW. Put up or shut up. They weren't taken because of polygamy, the charge was ABUSE or can't you read and understand. Trust me they have many "bodies". Due process was observed. You have no grounds for saying it wasn't.
Texans act, non-mo's whine.
Dave | 9:29 a.m. April 9, 2008
I am not in favor of mess round up except for cattle. Do we have rights of not,
I won't be moving to Texas anytime soon.
chris | 9:24 a.m. April 9, 2008
Take a minute and read the report on druge, the 16 year old story has huge gaps
in it. "i am the seventh wife" see page 3 " has 3 other
wives". Maybe someone who hates these groups set up law enforcement.
Elisabeth | 9:50 a.m. April 9, 2008
Children locked in closets? 13 and 14 year olds forced into sexual
relationships. This is a religion? If you want to talk "constitutional
rights" aks yourself if these young women are free. Are they free to
choose their spouse? Are they free to leave the compound? Are they free to
leave a locked closet? Are they free to protect their own viginity?
I guess there would be medical evidence of her broken ribs and that would be a good start for the body of evidence surmounting against these sect "leaders." There are no constitutional rights that protect slavery and human bondage.
I guess there would be medical evidence of her broken ribs and that would be a good start for the body of evidence surmounting against these sect "leaders." There are no constitutional rights that protect slavery and human bondage.
Lee | 10:00 a.m. April 9, 2008
I agree with ediddy,janet, and dave. This is a very "slippery slope'
what the authorities did in Texas.This is guilt by association.How long will
these children be kept by the state? What about the adult women? Will the state
keep thier children from thier mother if she chooses to return to the compound?
If these men did what is alleged,bring them to justice. Otherwise, release them.
JWK | 10:15 a.m. April 9, 2008
Many have stated on this forum over the past few months that sex offenders have
no constitutional rights, at least, from the posts that I have read.
In fact, many have posted that those who have been accused of sex abuse of a child should undergo certain medical procedures, including death, without having the person be convicted.
Allow the investigation to run it's course before you convict and sentence, least you be just as guilty.
If you want security and protection from such things how much freedom are you willing to give up? The only way to have total security is to totally give up your freedoms.
In fact, many have posted that those who have been accused of sex abuse of a child should undergo certain medical procedures, including death, without having the person be convicted.
Allow the investigation to run it's course before you convict and sentence, least you be just as guilty.
If you want security and protection from such things how much freedom are you willing to give up? The only way to have total security is to totally give up your freedoms.
FOR CHRIS | 10:37 a.m. April 9, 2008
Actually the story says 3 other wives LIVING in the same house - not that there
are just 3 other wives.
Phil | 10:43 a.m. April 9, 2008
FLDS, guilty until proven innocent.
John | 10:51 a.m. April 9, 2008
Washington county look what you have started. Once I am done with college I am
out of this state.
Texas-v-Utah | 11:07 a.m. April 9, 2008
to DeLaval Milker and others who are curious. I think the major difference
between what Texas is doing and what Utah has done is based on the law. In
Texas, the place they are living is privately owned land. The judge only had to
sign a search warant for one property, from which the call came. I highly doubt
that there would be a Judge in this country that would sign a search warant for
an entire city based on a signle call from one home. The logisitics of how
things are set up in Texas versus Utah and Arizona are completely different.
I disagree with some | 11:16 a.m. April 9, 2008
Of course there are other things that need to be fixed (abuse in schools, other
homes etc.), but that doesn't mean that we (or Texas) should ignore
complaints about a group. This particular group has had many problems with
abuse and we shouldn't turn their back on them because this is part of
their "religion". If a religion or belief takes the rights away of
others such as women, young girls or children then it will be investigated. The
rights of children supercede any so-called religious belief. This belief sounds
very convenient for child offenders to me!
Anonymous | 11:29 a.m. April 9, 2008
Incest and statutory rape should not be authorized by a religious ideology. The
Texas authorities did what was right and moral. The states of Utah and Arizona
should be ashamed for sweeping this stuff under the rug.
Amy | 11:56 a.m. April 9, 2008
I agree TOLALLY with anonymous 11:29am
Child Protection | 11:58 a.m. April 9, 2008
They created this problem
Don't volenteer to help
Let them cope with the problem they caused
Maybe they will learn a lesson
Watch where you step
Don't volenteer to help
Let them cope with the problem they caused
Maybe they will learn a lesson
Watch where you step
Ridiculous | 12:14 p.m. April 9, 2008
My question is, if polygamy itself is illegal and we have know about these
colonies for years... why have we done nothing about it? Regardless of all the
other details, just the mere fact that have multiple wives is illegal in this
country should be reason enough to arrest these men.
To Dave | 12:25 p.m. April 9, 2008
Don't bother to come to Texas. No closed minds needed.
You have no clue but have made your mind up.
You have no clue but have made your mind up.
scooter | 12:37 p.m. April 9, 2008
These cases should be looked at on an individual basis. If there is no abuse in
a home then the children of that home should not be taken away. Besides the ones
being abused my guess is that the rest of these families are happy.
I hope there is an investigation | 12:33 p.m. April 9, 2008
I hope there is a thorough investigation of the Texas DFS to learn if there were
any religious motivations involved.
I agree EVERY rape allegation should be investigated and every child that is at risk should be protected, but we also have a constitution that establishes people can not be targetted because the State doesn't agree with thier religious beliefs.
If protecting children from sexual abuse was the only motivation... in the affidavit there is no accusation of any abuse to anyone under the age of 14... Why remove ALL children, even one month old? Is an infant in imminent danger of being raped? I suspect the real intent is... protection from religious endoctrination (if so that's NOT the State's job).
If Texas has decided they can intervene and remove children because the religious teaching they are receiving is not in line with their beliefs... They are in the wrong.
Even children have a right to choose their religion. If they want to stay with their FLDS parents we don't have the right to take them away and teach them what the state believes is correct. That's exactly what the Constitution was meant to prevent States from doing.
I agree EVERY rape allegation should be investigated and every child that is at risk should be protected, but we also have a constitution that establishes people can not be targetted because the State doesn't agree with thier religious beliefs.
If protecting children from sexual abuse was the only motivation... in the affidavit there is no accusation of any abuse to anyone under the age of 14... Why remove ALL children, even one month old? Is an infant in imminent danger of being raped? I suspect the real intent is... protection from religious endoctrination (if so that's NOT the State's job).
If Texas has decided they can intervene and remove children because the religious teaching they are receiving is not in line with their beliefs... They are in the wrong.
Even children have a right to choose their religion. If they want to stay with their FLDS parents we don't have the right to take them away and teach them what the state believes is correct. That's exactly what the Constitution was meant to prevent States from doing.
Anonymous | 12:42 p.m. April 9, 2008
I want to see the state of Texas seize the property and all the assets of this
polygamist organization in order to provide a safety net for all of the woman
and children that are victims of this terrible mess. It is morally
incomprehensible to allow young women at the tender age of 12 to 16 to become
victims of statutory rape and incest.
Texan | 1:08 p.m. April 9, 2008
After first reading about this outrage (FLDS) years ago, I was appalled to see
it land in my state. Today, I'm very proud that Texas has the courage to do
what Utah, Arizona, and British Columbia (and South Dakota, for that matter)
allowed to go on. Those who commit these offenses against girls are guilty, but
those who allow it to go on are culpable.
Re: Investigation | 1:32 p.m. April 9, 2008
I hope so too... that there is a thorough investigation to determine if any of
the children have been abused. The parentage of each child of every underage
girl should be established (by DNA evidence, if necessary) and the fathers of
those children should be prosecuted for statutory rape.
These children have been so indoctrinated, that many of them may choose not to cooperate with the investigation.
There seems to be ample evidence to suspect child abuse. There is no evidence that the action of Texas authorities is based on religious grounds. Just speculation.
These children have been so indoctrinated, that many of them may choose not to cooperate with the investigation.
There seems to be ample evidence to suspect child abuse. There is no evidence that the action of Texas authorities is based on religious grounds. Just speculation.
Mike | 1:56 p.m. April 9, 2008
Brainwashed women and children in a cult. Isolated from any other opinions that
vary from what they are spoon fed each day.
Shame on the FLDS, shame on Texas, Utah and Arizona for not taking steps years ago to stop this.
Life repeats itself, today in the 21st century.
Man's inhumanity to man continues...
Shame on the FLDS, shame on Texas, Utah and Arizona for not taking steps years ago to stop this.
Life repeats itself, today in the 21st century.
Man's inhumanity to man continues...
anonymous | 2:01 p.m. April 9, 2008
I agree with ridiculous - practicing polygamy is grounds for being arrested,
regardless of whether or not abuse is involved. Texas messed up big time when
law enforcement allowed people to engage in polygamy without being prosecuted,
as have Utah, Arizona and Colorado. As a result, children have been and are
suffering. Men and women should have been arrested a long time ago and the law
should have been upheld. It seems to me that Texas is now trying to make up for
its negligence, but I think they are unprepared to deal with the consequences of
past and present decisions.
Re: Re Investigation 1:32 | 2:00 p.m. April 9, 2008
I agree with your suggestion to use DNA testing to establish parentage of those
who are underage and pregnant. Charges should be brought in all those cases,
the rest should be cleared and returned to their homes.
You seem to be very close to the investigation... Do you know how many of the women in holding are underage and pregnant? I think you would find it is a VERY small percentage (about the same as some inner-city communities in Huston).
The media paints the picture that all FLDS women are underage and pregnant (not true). The media also leads you to believe all the fathers are old men. Truth is... they are not.
If you look into it (facts, not rumors), I think you would find that most of this children were born to mature women who love their spouse and their church. So where is it Texas' right to hold ALL the women and children in this community against their will?
You seem to be very close to the investigation... Do you know how many of the women in holding are underage and pregnant? I think you would find it is a VERY small percentage (about the same as some inner-city communities in Huston).
The media paints the picture that all FLDS women are underage and pregnant (not true). The media also leads you to believe all the fathers are old men. Truth is... they are not.
If you look into it (facts, not rumors), I think you would find that most of this children were born to mature women who love their spouse and their church. So where is it Texas' right to hold ALL the women and children in this community against their will?
Kent | 2:11 p.m. April 9, 2008
I agree with Mike and others on here. There needs to be a big investigations on
polygamy, it must NOT stop here. I'm certain there is more to the story
than what is being told.
Vstil | 2:52 p.m. April 9, 2008
This is just the tip of the iceberg. Now we're challenging a system that
has a 47-62% failure rate of first time foster homes...and we're asking for
more? On another note - when are we going to see a seperation of church from
state and prosecute those who commit crimes and then hide under the organized
religious cloak to the fullest extent of our laws?
mad monk | 3:07 p.m. April 9, 2008
As a foster parent in Hawaii, I sympathise totally with the foster parents and
social workers in Texas. It's often difficult to place a child in foster
care (matching child and foster parents, even finding room!).Trying to set up
the basics for this many kids is a staggering task. If they are to be in foster
care for any length of time, they will need to verify (or have new) TB tests,
vaccinations, dental appointments, and medical checkups. They will need to be
enrolled in public schools. Any learning shortfalls or disabilities need to be
diagnosed and addressed. It's a lot of work for one or kids at a
time...for 416? Some of the kids have apparently been trained not to cooperate
with authorities...we see that in some of our kids. It'll take time for
the foster parents to win their trust. In all, a daunting task.
Anonymous | 3:17 p.m. April 9, 2008
ok, polygamy is illegal, we all know that. but that's if someone marries
someone else in a court of law while married to someone else. there is no law
that says you can't be married to someone and have sex with a bunch of
other people, is there? since when was 'spiritual marriage' legally
married? the closest i can think of is cohabitation, and that's not
illegal.
Mike Waters | 3:23 p.m. April 9, 2008
I am a psychiatrist (MD) in the Dallas area and find the Deseret News response
to this situation interesting to say the least. In reality, the Texas CPS has
an outstanding reputation for integrity throughout the U.S. In this particular
case, the childrens' rights were protected, not abused. Wait until the
facts are known before passing critical judgment. There is much more in the way
of probable cause than the phone call from the 16 year old girl. The
evidentiary basis for the search warrants was specific and substantive. Please
allow the system to work (and it will).
camper | 3:41 p.m. April 9, 2008
These are not legal marriages. They are "Spritual" marriages. That
means that these couples are shacking up in the eyes of the law, just like a
very high percent of everyone else. That makes it very hard to prosecute unless
there is the sexual abuse of a child (defined differently in every state). If
they arrest a polig who is shacked up with 10 legal aged women they would have
to arrest every other shack up couple in the state.
Too "Mike Waters 3:23" | 3:59 p.m. April 9, 2008
I like your confidence in the system.
I think what you're seeing in this discussion is just our attraction to trying everything in the court of public opinion and the media. Of course we don't know all the evidence they have. And they shouldn't have to share all their evidence with us just to satisfy our curiosity. But by nature some of us doubt the system when they say, "Trust us we have evidence we can't tell you about".
I think what you're seeing in this discussion is just our attraction to trying everything in the court of public opinion and the media. Of course we don't know all the evidence they have. And they shouldn't have to share all their evidence with us just to satisfy our curiosity. But by nature some of us doubt the system when they say, "Trust us we have evidence we can't tell you about".
Re: Camper & Anomy: 3:17 | 4:28 p.m. April 9, 2008
Not all shack up couples produce children on a roller belt. These polygamist men
are also enslaving these woman from birth to puberty for their own sexual
purposes. They have taken from these woman their own free will to think and do
for themselves. They are born into slavery. It much different then the malarkey
you are speaking of.
Michigan | 4:35 p.m. April 9, 2008
There is something wrong when you live in a place where you can't leave, or
if you leave you feel condemned by God. That's a prison!
Dress modest, do not cut your hair, but 'be sweet' if your father, uncle or brother No.40 comes at night to rape you. Shut up, be sweet, produce babies...
It's wrong. To deny a child a full education is wrong.
To waterboard them from keeping them crying is wrong.
Yes, 16 year olds have babies all over the world, but rarely are they forced to have them. I watch all this with great sadness, for those kids and mothers are going to have a hard time ahead of them, if they choose to stay on the outside or returning to all they have ever known. Sometimes it's easier to stick with what you know, than fearing the unknown.I hope the State of Texas has professional de-programmers on their staff and let the underage mothers keep their babies if they are put into foster homes.
Dress modest, do not cut your hair, but 'be sweet' if your father, uncle or brother No.40 comes at night to rape you. Shut up, be sweet, produce babies...
It's wrong. To deny a child a full education is wrong.
To waterboard them from keeping them crying is wrong.
Yes, 16 year olds have babies all over the world, but rarely are they forced to have them. I watch all this with great sadness, for those kids and mothers are going to have a hard time ahead of them, if they choose to stay on the outside or returning to all they have ever known. Sometimes it's easier to stick with what you know, than fearing the unknown.I hope the State of Texas has professional de-programmers on their staff and let the underage mothers keep their babies if they are put into foster homes.
LAME | 4:53 p.m. April 9, 2008
Spiritual marriages???....GIVE ME A BREAK! WHEN IS SEX ABUSE EVER SPIRITUAL?
joe | 8:34 p.m. April 9, 2008
Go get'em Texas Rangers,and thank you. Maybe after you guys clean up your
state,other states will follow your fine example. This, after all, is the United
States,we live by laws we the people made. These people seem to be above them
all. Hopefully some of the boys that were outcast will come forth with more
information.
Anonymous | 9:54 p.m. April 9, 2008
Introduce the liberated families to the world of homosexuality, allow the
children to be adobted by gay and lesbians. Let them watch murder day in and day
out on TV. Let them be exposed to pornography. Let them be well rounded citizens
so they fit in much better with the other world. Don't teach them about
consending adult issues. These people or authorities in Texas are like the
politicians that come out of Texas they never learn to tell the truth and they
make lots of money that way.
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Best of luck to this young man. I do hope they get him out soon!
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