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They have so much control over these women and girls! Get them out of there!
Has the phone call been verified? That's the question I want to know, have they found the lady? The actual victim in this? Anybody could call and say I'm 16 and my husband beat me, this sounds very fishy to me still. I have known these people, and I can promise you, I'm not able to envision any of them doing that to their ladies. This sounds like it's a big plant, I'm surprised it took them this many day's to just think up this lie. As for all you who condemn and accuse, the truth of the matter is, whenever people accuse others, they accuse them of what's in their own hearts.
You could be next... and don't kid yourself, you really could. You really have no civil liberties today.
BTW: Why are they not raiding the Muslims who are living in open polygamy in Dearborn, Michigan? Why don't they take away the children of the hip-hop "bigamists" who impregnate a stream of young women and sponge off the aid to dependent children they get? Why do They only go after defenseless FLDS. They don't have the guts to take on the gang-banger culture who have many, many children with multiple women and then abandon them, except to show up once in a while to get money!
Shame, shame, shame.
3 of the 27 wives of Brigham Young were under the age of 18. Lets not be too fast to call the kettle black
I think what the Texas authorities have done is absolutely appropriate. Certainly people should have the right to worship as they please, and certainly consenting adults should be able to define the nature of their relationships, but this has nothing to do with that. Safeguards need to be in place to make sure children and young girls are protected from abusers and predators. In these closed societies there is no way to assure the innocent have this protection. I'm glad Texas put the best interests of the children first. Utah has been "gun shy" since the Short Creek incident - I think Utah authorities need to get over it and take a leaf out of Texas' book. Think of the children.
Minority Report anyone? There have been no crimes committed, certainly nothing that will hold up in court, but their children are being ripped from their parents arms anyways. They are trying to prevent future crimes rather than anything that has actually occurred. This is appalling and a total breach of every constitutionally given right.
This country is slowly tilting toward atheist philosophy and a general hatred for religion. When will it be too late before you are able to speak up? When will your children be taken into state custody because christians 'brainwash' their children into belief of their own perspective religions.
The slope is being greased, how far down are you willing to slide until you raise your voice in protest?
Their only life's purpose is have have children and obey their husbands! This is a Democratic country and these people live in this country!
Thank you Joseph Smith for this wonderful legacy you initiated. Was it worth it? This is the price many are paying today for you license to commit adultery with other men's wives and teenage brides.
This is the price of what is now D&C 132 which, for you, was nothing more than revelatory permission to "cheat on Emma" which has become the sordid and sick foundation for continued abuse on children and women by men not too dissimilar as you.
And this comment will probably be deleted by those who still revere you and turn a blind eye to the abuse you created.
I have personal experience with this sect of poligimist lead by the Jeffs. My brother took in a boy that ran away from the sect in Colorado City, then his sister escaped, after being married off at 13 years old and then sexually abused. Our family took her in at 15, then helped her adapt and put her in public school. She is now off on her own and in college. She has done well, but the mental trauma and abuse she took was disgusting. She almost had her childhood taken away from her. They wanted to keep her uneducated and took away her right to have knowledge. Sounds a lot like the dark ages or communism. By thier fruits you shall know them, to much smoke in a small community not to be fire.
Yes, they found the girl who they believe made the call. She had ribs that had been broken, allegedly by her 50-year-old "husband." I hope they give him a cell that is of the size and quality he deserves and that they keep him there long enough to reconsider acting out his "religion" in a criminal way.
100 years ago was a different time and culture than this situation today.
I feel horror reading about children whose lives are not their own and who may never grow up to explore their own talents and abilities because adults have made their decisions for them.
My best friend in high school was part of a polygamist family (her father joined a group near the Arizona border and was excommunicated from the LDS Church).
Frequently my friend wrote disturbing poetry about being tied to a chair and raped. I always just thought it was the overactive imagination of a teenage girl.
Now, I'm horrified to think it may have all been real. She now lives somewhere in the desert near the Arizona/Utah border, and I still wonder if I should have done more or should still yet do something to help her.
I'm appalled at so many Utahn's willingness to defend child marriage and wife beating as a traditional American right that is threatened by atheists. Sick sick sick....
When the men who created this country drafted the constitution, a fundamental principle and an inalieable right was the right to due process. There is no due process here. If one man married an underage woman, and abused her, that one man should be prosecuted, and if found guilty, appropriately punished. However, to punish hundreds of people, children and families for the actions of one man reminds me of Nazi Germany, where Hitler decided that if you were a Jew, you should be punished, regardless of who or what you were. Obviously, Texas has decided that if you are a member of the FLDS Church, you should loose the right to raise your children, regardless of who you are as an individual.
You know for sure that they have found her? All I've got is that that is what she said in a phone call, as a matter of fact I just asked my sources and they say "no, we haven't found any girls with bruises, broken ribs or any other kind of physical abuse signs. So I'd like to know what your source is. I'm here, as close as one can get, and about to shed some light on these civil rights abuses. These poor kids just sing, smile and have a look about them that they have the upper hand though it all.
It makes me so sick to hear so many defending the memembers of the FLDS church. Many people who know very little about the LDS church already associate the LDS church with polygamy. To support the FLDS church and their actions sends such a bad message to those unfamiliar with what the LDS church believes.
This people has been so much brainwashed that they think they are going to Heaven, instead they are going to be casted out if they do not repent.
And do not blame Joseph Smith or other LDS Church's Leaders, because this people has nothing to do with the True Church.
Nazi's? The Nazis weren't trying to go in an protect the rights of innocent people from oppressors. What kind of a twisted comparison is that? Since when is saving children from abuse Nazi-like? A more likely comparison is to those who went in and rescued the poor Jews from the Nazis. Or do you suppose that infringed on the Nazi's right to their own culture that oppressed others?
I'm so glad Texas is delivering these oppressed innocent people. These people will have their due-process, but our country figures children that are being abused is an emergency that can't wait for their rescuing until that due-process comes about.
BTW, if you abuse your dog, they will take him away prior to you getting your due-process too.
I agree that the Texas authorities did the right thing by following up on the phone call. They received a call that made specific allegations related to abuse... what were they supposed to do, ignore the call? They had enough evidence to obtain a search warrant, so lets see where it goes.
All these cults are is Pedophile colonies hiding behind "religion." Made by men for men. What kind of a country do we live in where american citizens are NOT allowed to leaves ""compounds?" What is this Nazi Germany? Children are allowed to be beaten by these men? What kind of country are we living in when we do nothing to see that such exploitation of our citizens does not occur? Where children are forced to accomodate the sexual needs of men old enough to be their grandfathers under the ridiculous "spiritual" marriage.
Pedophiles will resort to anything, including hiding behind an abomination religion to get at young children. What losers and degenerates.
All these colonies have to go. If these men want sex, go find a girlfriend like a normal human being, lay off the kids.
Shame on all who condone this BS.
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