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Saying that ..... | 12:59 a.m. April 8, 2008
The Jazz should have picked Williams over Paul is like saying that the Bulls
should have picked John Stockton over Micheal Jordan in the 1984 Draft.
Sure Stockton was great maybe the best point of all time but MJ IS the best player of all time and has 6 rings on his fingers.
Willams is one of the best Point gaurds in this league.
Paul is off the charts, superior talent, phenomenal leadership skills and is one year away from being the unquestioned best player in the game.
Read and weep Jazz fans, read and weep. Then crawl out of your hidding places and recite the same garbage about Williams being better for the Jazz.
Ya right just like stockton was better for the Jazz than Jordan would have been.
Sure Stockton was great maybe the best point of all time but MJ IS the best player of all time and has 6 rings on his fingers.
Willams is one of the best Point gaurds in this league.
Paul is off the charts, superior talent, phenomenal leadership skills and is one year away from being the unquestioned best player in the game.
Read and weep Jazz fans, read and weep. Then crawl out of your hidding places and recite the same garbage about Williams being better for the Jazz.
Ya right just like stockton was better for the Jazz than Jordan would have been.
Traktor Milkies | 1:02 a.m. April 8, 2008
KYLE KORVER
is better than Chris Paul. O'Connor should be enshrined in the Hall of Fame for pulling off that trade. He was just what the Jazz and CJ Miles needed.
is better than Chris Paul. O'Connor should be enshrined in the Hall of Fame for pulling off that trade. He was just what the Jazz and CJ Miles needed.
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WILLie out play Paul?? | 1:06 a.m. April 8, 2008
lets see how DWILL plays against an MVP SUPERSTAR. He's only played
against Pual at this level once and he was torched (their last meeting is the
first with Paul since Pauls game went into orbit)
Some players rise to the occasion when playing superior talent. I hope Williams does.
Some players rise to the occasion when playing superior talent. I hope Williams does.
@ SLOAN | 1:07 a.m. April 8, 2008
Hey Jerry!!
How do you like Chris Paul now???
You made this bed now sleep in it!!
How do you like Chris Paul now???
You made this bed now sleep in it!!
Biggest Blunder since.... | 1:17 a.m. April 8, 2008
Taking Sam Bowie of MJ
Everyone in the country new Chris Paul was better and had more upside than William except for Jerry.
Everyone scout in america said the same thing.
"Chris Paul... best point gaurd to come out since Jason Kidd...tenacious competitor...superb leader"
Hey at least DWill can beat the great teams at home.
Everyone in the country new Chris Paul was better and had more upside than William except for Jerry.
Everyone scout in america said the same thing.
"Chris Paul... best point gaurd to come out since Jason Kidd...tenacious competitor...superb leader"
Hey at least DWill can beat the great teams at home.
@ milkes | 1:30 a.m. April 8, 2008
Sorry about the Korver comment, I just couldn't help myself. He's
good, I just like Miles
shadenfreud | 1:39 a.m. April 8, 2008
Last time I checked Chris Paul hasn't won a playoff game. Not a single
one. The main reason MJ is considered so great is what he did in the
POST-season. Maybe he'll do well this year, but I think he could
just as easily get torched by Dwill in a series... and hopefully Paul gets the
MVP right before that happens.. that would be really funny.
Eugene | 4:19 a.m. April 8, 2008
Paul does well with the team around him, just as DWill succeeds with the team
place around him. I sat in the stands and watched a killer Deron cross-over
that sat Paul on his fanny when New Orleans was last in SLC. Paul crashed in
that game and Deron was the cause. It comes down to wins in the play-offs so
let's see where this goes. Both are amazing and elevate their own
team's play.
BH | 5:01 a.m. April 8, 2008
All this talk about Paul and DWill is idiotic. This is a team sport, not
tennis...
The comparison between Stockton and Jordan? Idiotic... The logic is faulty. What happens if DWill wins 6 championships and Paul wins none? Is DWill then the better player? Too many assumptions at this stage of two great careers.
The Jazz took Wiliams because of his size and his ability to post up. DWill was the player they wanted for the system they play in. The Jazz went to the WC Finals a year ago and chances are, they will be back at least a few more times with DWill at the point. How that is a failure is beyond me...
Consider this... Let's say the Jazz face the Hornets in a second round series. The Jazz have the talent to beat NO, so assume the Jazz win the series. At that point, who cares who had the better numbers in the regular season? I am sure Karl Malone would trade his MVP trophies in for a ring anyday...
Had the Jazz not taken DWill, the Hornets would have. Both guards played three years... It's too early to make these claims.
So there!
The comparison between Stockton and Jordan? Idiotic... The logic is faulty. What happens if DWill wins 6 championships and Paul wins none? Is DWill then the better player? Too many assumptions at this stage of two great careers.
The Jazz took Wiliams because of his size and his ability to post up. DWill was the player they wanted for the system they play in. The Jazz went to the WC Finals a year ago and chances are, they will be back at least a few more times with DWill at the point. How that is a failure is beyond me...
Consider this... Let's say the Jazz face the Hornets in a second round series. The Jazz have the talent to beat NO, so assume the Jazz win the series. At that point, who cares who had the better numbers in the regular season? I am sure Karl Malone would trade his MVP trophies in for a ring anyday...
Had the Jazz not taken DWill, the Hornets would have. Both guards played three years... It's too early to make these claims.
So there!
lamonte | 5:26 a.m. April 8, 2008
To "Even Boozer Knows", "Saying that" and "@Sloan"
- It's too bad the DMN doesn't impose an age limit on those that
comment. You five-year-olds would have to wait a few years before spewing your
non-sensical diatribe. For intelligent Jazz fans, their isn't one that
wouldn't admit that Chris Paul is having an outstanding year and deserves
consideration for MVP. But if you try to equate that success with any other
team besides New Orleans you would be fooling yourself. DWill is perfect for
the Jazz team, perfect for Jerry Sloan and perfect for the fans of Utah. And
please don't fool yourself into thinking the Jazz won't be successful
in their year's playoffs - AGAIN! Both players are great for what they do,
for how they enhance their respective team's talents and for the overall
team situation they are in. Chris Paul is great - this year - and will continue
to be great. But Deron Williams will continue to be great as well.
Oh, and by the way....MJ on the Jazz? Yea, that would have worked.
Oh, and by the way....MJ on the Jazz? Yea, that would have worked.
Dwilly: 8 wins CP3: 2 wins | 6:44 a.m. April 8, 2008
Head-to-head Dwilly OWNS CP3. 8 wins to 2 wins and has better stats.
Dwilly will have a longer career- he is not Crystal Paul.
Dwilly will have more playoff victories.
Crystal Paul will be a flash in the pan. Great year with great stats and then it's over. "They" called Harold Miner "Baby Jordan" once, too...
GO Dwilly! Dominate.
Dwilly will have a longer career- he is not Crystal Paul.
Dwilly will have more playoff victories.
Crystal Paul will be a flash in the pan. Great year with great stats and then it's over. "They" called Harold Miner "Baby Jordan" once, too...
GO Dwilly! Dominate.
Sir Winston | 7:40 a.m. April 8, 2008
Very few in the history of the NBA clearly establish themselves as being the
best over all others. For the few that succeed it takes time and performance.
Three years is hardly enough. The competition is on, but it isn't over yet.
Some of you are limited, biased, and subjective when you can say who is best already. Give them some time. Don't get so lathered up about it. Even ten years from now, it may not be decided.
Some of you are limited, biased, and subjective when you can say who is best already. Give them some time. Don't get so lathered up about it. Even ten years from now, it may not be decided.
the only people who think | 7:44 a.m. April 8, 2008
Paul is better are pimple-faced 12 or 13 year olds who know nothing about
basketball. Paul is great no doubt and I would even go so far as to say he is
having a better statisical year that Williams, but until he actually can take
his team somewhere in the playoffs, this argument is way premature.
mhelal2 | 7:48 a.m. April 8, 2008
Golden state vs Hornets, GS in 7 or even 5, eventhough I hate GS, but I think
that's what will happen because if the Hornets lost one game on home court,
they don't have the experience to recover back.
Don | 8:13 a.m. April 8, 2008
Who's this guy that really likes Chris Paul that always gets on here. I
think he's still mad about the draft 3 years ago. I hope the poor guy gets
over it so he can enjoy D-Will and the Jazz during the playoffs like the rest of
us true Jazz fans. I like Chris Paul alright, but D-Will is on our team and were
pretty happy with him. Deron will Dominate again tonight.
It's the same little kid ....... | 8:36 a.m. April 8, 2008
........always in the middle of the night, And spewing about Chris Paul. Even
when the Jazz are not playing the Hornets and are beating the Celtics, Suns or
the Spurs and Williams is playing phenominal, this noccturnal kid is rambling on
about Chris Paul. This kids parent probably brought him back a Chris Paul
jersey from their vacation to Mardi Gras. Anyone with basketball smarts knows
Deron Williams is a great fit for the Jazz. Look what he is doing in only his
second full year of starter minutes.
@ Saying that... | 8:53 a.m. April 8, 2008
First off, would it kill DesNews to put in threaded comments?
Second, picking Stockton over MJ is the lamest excuse I've ever read when comparing Williams & Paul. Do you really think that the Jazz would have picked Stockton had they had the #4 pick in the draft? Stockton ended up being a steal, but he wasn't high on anyone's draft board.
Simply put, Williams and Paul will be the best for years to come.
Second, picking Stockton over MJ is the lamest excuse I've ever read when comparing Williams & Paul. Do you really think that the Jazz would have picked Stockton had they had the #4 pick in the draft? Stockton ended up being a steal, but he wasn't high on anyone's draft board.
Simply put, Williams and Paul will be the best for years to come.
Even Boozer knows | 8:49 a.m. April 8, 2008
You guys are proving my point with your irrational logic
Ticket holder | 9:22 a.m. April 8, 2008
It's hard to admit, and I love DWILL but face it we missed out the better
player. It happens all the time, luckily Williams wasn't a bust. But Paul
will be the best player in the league.
@ @ saying that | 9:32 a.m. April 8, 2008
It is actually the perfect analogy which you missed. He was saying that
Stockton like Williams is good for the Jazz and that Paul Like Jordan were the
best players in their draft.
what channel is the game... | 9:36 a.m. April 8, 2008
on, on dish network. It doesn't show up on my guide.
ID Jazz fan | 9:44 a.m. April 8, 2008
Dwill has will hopefully beat Paul tonight.
As for the Pual vs Dwill
Someone said Dwill is great cause we beat the Suns, Spurs and Celtics (which paul did too)
What about those losses at Miami, LA, Minnesota (twice) New York and Charlotte.(Paul didn't do) They reported on ESPN that the Jazz are the only team to do that this year.
As for the Pual vs Dwill
Someone said Dwill is great cause we beat the Suns, Spurs and Celtics (which paul did too)
What about those losses at Miami, LA, Minnesota (twice) New York and Charlotte.(Paul didn't do) They reported on ESPN that the Jazz are the only team to do that this year.
Stockton2Malone | 9:53 a.m. April 8, 2008
CP3 >> DWill >> all the rest
Uncle Keith | 9:49 a.m. April 8, 2008
Paul is better than Williams right now. He may always be. Williams is not that
much worse than Paul. Not like Bowie --- Jordan. Korver is better than CJ
right now. We are playing right now to secure our playoff seed. Thank the good
lord that O'donnel brought in Korver (the best Jazz shooting 2 since
Horny). Whether some of you like it or not Korver is a darn good player and
will have a long and distinguished career here in Utah. Not only is he one of
the ten best shooters in the NBA. He is the best free throw shooter in the
league. He is focussed and he is a smart team player. CJ shows promise. Like
all players his age, he can lose focus from time to time. He needs to be
developed and I hope we do not get rid of him. I would love to see him take AK
or Harps place next year or next. But he needs to be signed for multiple years.
People that think Korver should be benched right now in favor of Miles are
really missing it. The guy can shoot, hit FT's and execute without
hesitant or nervous descisions.
re: Uncle Keith | 10:07 a.m. April 8, 2008
You are right on. The Jazz would have lost at least 3-4 more games without
Korver, and that would have them battling with Denver to make the playoffs.
Uncle Doug | 10:04 a.m. April 8, 2008
Keith I couldn't agree with you more. That is if we are only playing the
Spurs. Other than that Korver is a solid 10 minute man. CJ does everything
Korver does well. Plus he is a better defender and plays above the rim
Ernie | 10:05 a.m. April 8, 2008
Chris Paul is having a great year. Let's look at the past three years.
Deron has out played Paul head to head by a large margin. Paul has only one
game against Utah where he looked better than Deron. Deron has taken his tean
to the West finals. Paul has the best stats this year. Time will only tell was
the better choice. Right now I couldn't call it. My bet is that Deron
will hold up better than Paul over the long haul.
SantaBarbaraJazzFn | 10:26 a.m. April 8, 2008
Whp cares what Booz has to say, perhaps when he begins to play some defense and
help DWill we'll win games on the road, have the best record in the league
and then and only then will the so called experts say that DWill is MVP.
Jazz will lose 2 more games | 10:20 a.m. April 8, 2008
@DAL & @SA
Phoenix will lose 1-2 more (@SA & maybe @ HOU)
Houston will lose 2-3 more (@UT, @Den & maybe PHO)
that means UT---28 losses
PHO---27-28 losses
HOU---27-28 losses
note: Utah will hold the tie breaker with either PHO or HOU(because UT will beat HOU in SLC).
Phoenix will lose 1-2 more (@SA & maybe @ HOU)
Houston will lose 2-3 more (@UT, @Den & maybe PHO)
that means UT---28 losses
PHO---27-28 losses
HOU---27-28 losses
note: Utah will hold the tie breaker with either PHO or HOU(because UT will beat HOU in SLC).
CP3 | 10:25 a.m. April 8, 2008
For all of you who say, and will say, that DWILL is a better fit for
sloan's system than Paul, are out of your minds or your are admitting that
Sloan's system is so ridgid and lame that an amazing player like Paul
couldn't excel.
Dwill is an up and coming all star, CP3 is an MVP candidate which is a big difference. I love Dwill and the jazz are fortunate to have him, but he is not the player Paul is. Put it this way, Derron is one of the top 25 players in the league, Paul is in the top 3.
Dwill is an up and coming all star, CP3 is an MVP candidate which is a big difference. I love Dwill and the jazz are fortunate to have him, but he is not the player Paul is. Put it this way, Derron is one of the top 25 players in the league, Paul is in the top 3.
Daily Credit | 10:29 a.m. April 8, 2008
Lets wait til the playoffs to see who is better.
Dwill and CP3 play in totally different offense. Dwill is part of the offense with the Jazz while CP3 IS the offense for New Orleans. If CP3 doesn't have a good game, New Orlean loses because he is vital to their success. However, if Dwill doesn't have a good game the jazz can still win because Dwill is just part of the offense that relys on teamwork instead of 1 guy.
Lets wait til the playoffs. Dwill will shine like the King Pin.
Dwill and CP3 play in totally different offense. Dwill is part of the offense with the Jazz while CP3 IS the offense for New Orleans. If CP3 doesn't have a good game, New Orlean loses because he is vital to their success. However, if Dwill doesn't have a good game the jazz can still win because Dwill is just part of the offense that relys on teamwork instead of 1 guy.
Lets wait til the playoffs. Dwill will shine like the King Pin.
Tyson Chandler | 10:31 a.m. April 8, 2008
Tyson Chandler is the REAL reason the hornets win so many games, Chris Paul puts
up crazy numbers but he is a terrible defender because he gambles for so many
steals, if he didn't have Ty behind him to cover he would be scored on even
more than he is and his team wouldn't be winning, think of what dwill could
do with a decent defender down low to help him out.
Who's better.................. | 10:40 a.m. April 8, 2008
Hot Rod, Jim Nantz, Dave Blackwell, Steve Brown, Ron Boone or Craig Bolerjack?
Am I missing any? Please let me know.
D'Will will play more minutes.. | 10:35 a.m. April 8, 2008
.. in his career because he is built to last. In essence the Jazz will get more
out of him.
Injuries | 10:44 a.m. April 8, 2008
How Many games has CP3 lost to injury? How many games has D-Will been out.
The Jazz didn't want another Raul Lopez.
The Jazz didn't want another Raul Lopez.
What about Andrew? | 10:50 a.m. April 8, 2008
All this talk about CP3 and D-will. What about Andrew Bogut, and Marvin
Williams? Why can't we all argue about the Bucks and Bobcats decisions?
Uncle Doug said.......... | 10:45 a.m. April 8, 2008
"CJ does everything Korver does well." Hey Doug, you were just
kidding, right?
Bi-Polar Wannabe | 11:03 a.m. April 8, 2008
But Williams beat Paul in the All-Star Skills Challenge! That MUST mean
he's the better player! My guess, is that if the Jazz had taken Paul over
Williams, we'd be saying that Williams is the better player. Why? Because
the grass is always greener on the other side. And they play for 2 totally
different teams who have 2 totally different O's & D's &
supporting casts. When the stats are close like Paul's & Williams, you
can't just rely on stats to say who's better. Williams is the best
guard to play for the Jazz since the Jazz lost in the Finals. That's
enough for me. Paul would have the exact same effect on the Jazz if he were
here give or take a win or two.
TJ | 11:15 a.m. April 8, 2008
All this talk is ridiculous right now because it is too early in their careers
to really show what either has done. Let's have this discussion in 5 years
and see who has more championships. That is what people really want and that is
what most people base greatness off of. Look at the Malone and Duncan debate.
Experts say that Duncan is is the best PF to ever play but Malone had better
numbers and was just as good on defense. The numbers say that Malone is better
but he doesn't ahve a championship and Duncan does so that is why everyone
says Duncan is better. Let's give this a few years. And as for Paul being
in the top 3 players in the league....I don't think so. How can you put him
as being better than KG, Kobe, Lebron. To me those are the top 3 individual
talents in the league. This really is a dumb conversation at this point in their
careers.
californian | 11:34 a.m. April 8, 2008
reminds me of the time everyone was lamenting the Jazz having only John Stockton
at point while Boston was soaring with Danny Ainge...Frank Layden basically said
he wouldn't trade them in ANY situation and the people of Utah would come
to understand why...Yeah, Ainge has a ring or two but...he is still Ainge...any
semi competent guard would have looked pretty good passing the ball to that
front line in Boston. Judging a guard by stats is invalid since so much depends
on the supporting cast...both Paul and Williams have a good supporting cast but
right now you have to give the nod to the Hornets...
SantaBarbaraJazzFn | 11:36 a.m. April 8, 2008
Does anyone remember the same debate between Stockton and Kevin Johnson? Enough
said!!!!!
Williams out | 11:55 a.m. April 8, 2008
Does anyone care that williams might not play tonight cause he is ill? did
anybody else read that? The dude is sick, I hope he's able to play.
Williams v. Paul | 12:10 p.m. April 8, 2008
Who cares? Statistically they're about the same anyway except Paul
averages more rebounds while Williams has a higher shooting percentage.
They're both having good years, they're both good, and they both are
adored by their fan bases. Paul is leading his team to the best record in the
West, while Williams has led his team to the Western Conference Championship.
Anyway you look at it they are both really good. To say one is that much better
than the other is irrational. As a Jazz fan I will point out, however, that
Williams is up on Paul in the head-to-head match-up: 8-2 and throw in the skills
challenge.
J in NY | 12:16 p.m. April 8, 2008
In general, Williams has outplayed every other point guard that he has played
against this year, including Steve Nash, Chris Paul, Jason Kidd, Chauncey
Billups, Baron Davis..., the list goes on. Statistics are a great way to
measure things, but so many people fail to account for heart, desire,
competitiveness, and to some respect wins. Williams has more heart and desire
than any other point guard in the NBA, period. His competitive nature measures
up to guys like AI, MJ, John Stockton, Lebron James, and Kobe Bryant. He also
has a pretty good head-to-head record against the aforementioned point guards.
Here is Williams record vs. the previously mentioned point guards this season:
13-2 (his only losses coming on the road to Phoenix and New Orleans).
Williams vs. Nash: 2-1
Williams vs. Paul: 2-1
Williams vs. Kidd(Dallas/New Jersey): 2-0
Williams vs. Billups: 2-0
Williams vs. Davis: 3-0
To the rest of the NBA: go ahead and keep disrespecting what Deron Williams has done (and continues to do), it only makes him play better when you do.
Williams vs. Nash: 2-1
Williams vs. Paul: 2-1
Williams vs. Kidd(Dallas/New Jersey): 2-0
Williams vs. Billups: 2-0
Williams vs. Davis: 3-0
To the rest of the NBA: go ahead and keep disrespecting what Deron Williams has done (and continues to do), it only makes him play better when you do.
Re: uncle Doug said | 12:22 p.m. April 8, 2008
I don't think Uncle Doug was kidding. Korver shoots threes. Miles has a
better 3 pt % this year, a better field goal % this year and has the 2nd best
free throw % on the team. I don't think Uncle Doug was kidding and I agree
with him.
Go Jazz
Go Jazz
Almond | 12:29 p.m. April 8, 2008
I feel bad for Morris Almond, he is probabley the ONLY first round draft pick
playing in the D-league. You can already tell that Sloan hates him and will
never give him a chance. The worst thing Almond could have done is score 50 a
few times to get in sloan's doghouse. Sloan has said nothing but negative
things about him since he got here. I doubt that he has much trade value, but
it would be the best thing for him because sloan already hates him, just like
Humpreys, Snyder, Mo Willimas, Sasha, Stevenson and others.
DARREN | 12:29 p.m. April 8, 2008
I SEE WHY THEY CALL HIM BOOZERS.TO MAKE MAKE SUCH A CRACKHEAD COMMENTS, IF I WAS
A UTAH FAN I WOULD BE WORRING THAT THE LEAGUE MIGHT WANT TO GIVE BOOZER A DRUG
TEST.JAMES OVER PAUL. IT MUST BE DRUGS
re:Santa Barbara | 12:45 p.m. April 8, 2008
You nailed it!!!! Indeed, if Boozer would play defense on the road and the Jazz
were leading the western conf. it would be unaminous: we would choose D-Will.
Like reading the Funnies | 12:42 p.m. April 8, 2008
Wow now I know why I look at these posts it's for the funny factor.
Kyle Korver is a nice piece to the puzzle, but to even talk about him and my man Horny in the same sentence is a bit disrespectful at best.
To be honest I would just as soon have Miles and RonBew doing most of the time. Korv's a huge liability on defense WHY do you thing Philly gave him away??
CJ's current ability is comparable to Krutcher and his upside is all star calibur. Korver's downside is too big for a defensive week club. We've got enough 3 point strokers.
But hey I get a kick out of you Jokers
Kyle Korver is a nice piece to the puzzle, but to even talk about him and my man Horny in the same sentence is a bit disrespectful at best.
To be honest I would just as soon have Miles and RonBew doing most of the time. Korv's a huge liability on defense WHY do you thing Philly gave him away??
CJ's current ability is comparable to Krutcher and his upside is all star calibur. Korver's downside is too big for a defensive week club. We've got enough 3 point strokers.
But hey I get a kick out of you Jokers
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For 90% of you reading this post who somehow think that Deron Williams is better for the Jazz just look at what Boozer had to say. He said Paul is at another level. If you asked Williams he would say Paule is at another level. Williams days of outplaying Paul are over.
Sure Dwill is great for our team, and a great player but he's not even close to the talent skill and leadership ability of Paul.
So there!