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A very good day for all the Women and Female Kids cought up in this. Also long overdue.If you thought, Jeffs being put in Jail was going to bring an end to this Cult think again. The Women where perhaps less Free after his Arrest then before. They can get some cloths and take the 1800's costumes off. They can be enter viewed and checked by qualified Medical Staff. What Mormons can do is obtain Foster Care Licenses. It is my 20th Wedding Anniversary today, my wife and I consider cleaning this Cesspool of Sexual Abuse out to be a good present. Thank the Baptist and anyone else for their help.
Does anyone else see this as the authorities slightly overstepping their bounds? Were the Texicans just waiting for any excuse to raid the compound? I am not for unvolintary poligymous marriage and I consider the FLDS to be a cult, but how are these people behaving any differently than, say, a college basketball or football player? (Except the athlete would only get a slap on the wrist for abusing a minor)
Raiding the compound and taking out all the children is the same as removing all the children from a school that has a pedophile teacher. Why not just remove the offender?
Any why were Baptist buses used? Why not school buses that at least belong to the government?
I hope that if there are people being held in the compound against their will, they will be assisted in any way possible to leave, but I also hope the authorities will respect the civil rights of all involved.
Thank you, Texas! Why can't Utah do the same thing? Or Arizona? I moved from Utah last June to Texas. I am so happy Texas will not allow these young girls to be married off to these old geezers and forced to have children at such a young age. If an adult woman chooses to live this lifestyle, then so be it. But, the children have no choices. Utah needs to protect its children like Texas seems to. Hurray for this great state!
my sadness is that this story will also reflect badly on the Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints right across the world,with whom this evil sect has no links. I am grateful that these women and children have been rescued though. I pray that the world as community will see that this sect has no ties with the genuine and honourable LDS CHurch and our own dear President Monson.
The girls are GONE!
Hallelujah!
Now, if that WONDERFUL 16-year-old girl would just give her name . . .
YFZ =
Yipes, its the Fuzz, Zeke!
Warren Jeffs must be proud to have his new Temple ransacked.
He must be banging his head against his PRISON cell wall.
I should think that pretty much all of these 'compound' based reclusive religions engage in abuse. Force and fear are their stock in trade; isolation and ignorance their partners.
For better or worse we've answered the question "does anything fly if it is done in the name of religious freedom?"
Thankfully, no, it does not.
This is not a halleljah day. These women and girls may not want new clothes and exams by doctors unknown to them. Age and maturity may differ drastically from our society. There is no clear black and white answers for all involved. NO WOMEN AND CHILDREN DO NOT NEED TO BE CAPTIVE AND ABUSED. However, who determines that is how they feel. Some of these girls will not ever recover from being rescued. They need to be kept away from society and protected from these victory celebrations. This is their only way of life, it is all they have. People realize this is a sad serious situation and is not over by "rescuing and saving" these women and children. I am a Baptist, Christian mother who has seen the good, the bad and the ugly of CPS. The system is not perfect. I do believe they are doing their best to be fair, but to be truly honest and objective, now is not the time to tear their very foundations from underneath them. Now is the time to pray and let those directly involved come to terms with what is going on and move on from here.
I have some weird neighbors. I think I will go call the police. I will tell them I am a 16 year old girl and am being abused. Based upon what the ignorant Texas officials are doing the police will come and raid there house and take not only there children but there relatives. This is so wrong! They don't even know if this girl really exsists and even if she does this is not the way to handle the situation.
"sufficient evidence of possible abuse and neglect," that basically means. Is that a way of saying, we don't really have any evidence?
Looks the the law enforcement of Texas has more gumption than Utah and Arizona. Seems to me this type of thing should have happened several times in Colorado City (and other polygamous compounds) instead of the infamous once in history. If it is a staple of a religion to not only break polygamy laws of the state and country, but to break age of consent laws for marriage, then the children should be removed from all members of the community as the fate of breaking one of these 2 laws is almost guaranteed for these children. Now we need to wait and see if they enforce polygamy laws and begin to charge those who are in such illegal unions.
Polygamy violates woman. Brainwashed to do this is totally wrong. These male deviates who treat woman in this way are child molesters and pedifiles, who choose to use God and religion for their dirty work.
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
I think what they mean by abuse is they have underage girls that are pregnant. The abuse is obvious to the casual observer.
And adult women consenting to polygamy is one thing but a 14 or 15 year old girl being assigned a husband is quite another. I believe that is rape because she is not old enough to consent.
But I did reflect on all the 14 and 15 year olds that are pregnant across the country and wondered if they are arresting the perpetrators of those crimes. Not that I agree with either scenario, but why go after one and not the other.
I think Curtis you are totally right, this is wrong. Especially for the children, they are pulled out of the surroundings (and family) they know. This is a traumatic experience for them. I couldn't imagine someone taking my children away suddenly without warning, my children would be heart broken and scared to death. I am positive there would have been a better way of doing this. Sounds like the people didn't oppose law enforcement coming in, maybe they could have observed first instead of jumping the gun. I really think this is tragic. I do believe it is time to crack down on child abuse but please, be gentle when you drag children out of their homes. Children don't understand they are being abused and are still loyal and love their families, this is really traumatic. I hope they will give all the children access to counselors for years to come.
This may be a hard situation for these children, but ultimately, what is more wrong? Allowing them to be physically and emotionally abused or trying to protect them? The children don't understand right now, but ulitmately, this may be what is best for them. How many of you have met polygamist families? I have.... Memories that I can not and would not want to erase. There were teenage mothers, men with multiple wifes... This is Not a good situation for them. Hopefully these children will be able to stay with their mothers, but if underage girls are pregnant (sufficiect evidance) and married, how can we just stand by? Abuse itself is not to be neglected.
If a 16 year old girl, in an average neighborhood, called the police and said she was being abused, would not law enforcement come to the home investigate, and if enough evidence is found take not only the girl but other children there that were at risk?
This is a difficult situation for all involved... BUT from my understanding polygamy is against the law, therefore, surely something needs to be done.
Especially if 14,15,16 year old girls are being married!
Let's think of the children!
My heart goes out to all involved, what a MESS.
Would you allow your 14 or 15 year old daughter to be forced into a "marriage" with a 50 year old man?
It's about time that the government stepped in to protect these children from further abuse. Abuse, whether church-sanctioned or not, is still abuse.
Consenting adults entering into a polygamous relationship is one thing.
Forced marriages of children to adults is quite a different animal.
Please don't use the first to justify the second.
This is not "protecting" them, or really helping them to have their families ripped apart like this. The way this is being handled is violating the rights of the very women and children they are claiming to help. This is very sad day in America. Especially because so many can't see what's wrong with this. I'm sure those women just want their children back.
And even more, I'm sure those chilren want to be back with their mothers, even at home.
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