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Dialogue will be unprecedented move for church

Published: Monday, April 7 2008 12:18 a.m. MDT

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Anonymous

well said, CTR.

How Presumptious . . .

. . . it is for so many people to speak out for Church leaders and pretend to know what those leaders should or shouldn't do with respect to the request to sit down and discuss a matter that impacts the lives of so many of our brothers and sisters.

I'm pretty sure church leaders will figure this one out without the help of all those who want to step forward and "steady the arc."

Good men chosen

I know Fred Riley and Harold Brown personally. These are great men to discuss the topics at hand. They have a lot of experience and wisdom and bring a lot of common sense to the table. Well done, whoever made this choice.

The Savior Rejoiced

In his message, this Sunday, President Monson reached out to members who have left the church. I am so happy that he has followed through to include the faithful gay and lesbian community. Demonstrating this by accepting Gay LDS invitations to meet with LDS leaders. I am a member of the LDS church myself and am so glad to see this! I am over joyed because I have so many friends whom are gay and lesbian and I love them! We are often enraged when we are found as seperate when our hearts are so together!

I have always loved and trusted the judgement of President Monson, even prior to his new role. As long as I can remember his gentle and understanding manner was amazing and comforting to me. It would be to his nature to by pass the barriers and teach us love and acceptance of all people.

Unification is healing and our strongest defense against the evil of this world. I am hopeful for changes in our traditions. Because these modern times demand a change of views and can be the answer to the worlds ever growing war amongst ourselves.

TruLDS

Love the sinner, but hate the sin! And, regardless of what the world thinks, homosexuality IS a sin, which strikes at the very foundation of the family.
But, all are sinners, and any dialogue between the Church and these groups is good. It fosters better understanding, between the two parties.
I know, however, that the Church will continue to stand for traditional families, values, and lifestyles, with a married, male father, female mother, and their children.

Open minded

Sometimes we become so open minded that our brains fall out.

Lisa

After the comments said from conference yesterday, I feel that if the church changes it's mind and accepts this, then what else will it accept in the future? That just living togetther and having children will be ok also? What has happened to our morals? I understand our world is changing but do we have to change every thing we believe in to accomodate others? God did not put two men together or two women together, he put a man and a woman together and thats how it is supposed to be, now and forever.

Wow

Whatever happened to loving your neighbor? I thoght that your prophet preached tolerance and love, but all I see here is prejudice and hate. You all ought to be ashamed.

Interesting.

I find it interesting and quite telling, that on the same day where a story on conference from the new prophet telling members that they need to be more tolerant of other people's beliefs that this story show so many people willing to do just the opposite. I don't see where they plan on asking the church to change their doctrine in any way, instead they are just asking for a chance of open and honest discussion. Why are you so scared of this? Why are you people so afraid of us gays? Trust me, we have more to fear from you. If you believe that the church really is true, then why are so many of you so upset by this? Where is your faith in your church leaders to do the right thing? Guess not too many of you actually LISTENED to what was said at conference.

Love??

I find it interesting that many posters choose to lead with the "sin" aspect of this dialog rather than leading with love. Thank goodness these posters are not the Prophet, or God.

I also find it interesting that people will immediately choose to judge a situation/person but then quickly remove all guilt off themselves by saying "I'm glad I'm not the one to judge" or "But I have my own issues too."

However, I applaud those posters that focused on the love and hope aspect of this exchange between the Church and Affirmation. I'm sure there will be good that comes out of it.

Personal Thoughts

It seems over the years as I encounte people with problems, all of us have them, one things is constant. It depends on whether or not you act on these inclinations. Whether it be physical abuse, drug abuse, alcoholism, child sex abuse, anger issues, work-a-holics, homosexual feelings, etc. our challenge in life is to overcome these tendencies and to become stronger and better people. I have worked with and known people in each of these categories. Some "put off the natural man" and have become better people, others have determined to give into these feelings and have not become better people, yet. Regardless these feelings, tendencies, "addictions", are still wrong and inappropriate. They are all still sins to be overcome.

Well said...


TruLDS | 8:50 a.m. Apr. 7, 2008

"Love the sinner, but hate the sin! And, regardless of what the world thinks, homosexuality IS a sin, which strikes at the very foundation of the family.
But, all are sinners, and any dialogue between the Church and these groups is good. It fosters better understanding, between the two parties.
I know, however, that the Church will continue to stand for traditional families, values, and lifestyles, with a married, male father, female mother, and their children."

Proclamation on the Family

I imagine the discussion from the Church's point of view will focus on this revelation. I agree that discussion can be valuable, but the stated view of the Lord is fairly clear (yes I did say the Lord, not the Church, because if you believe the Church is true, you literally believe it is being led by the Lord and revelations such as the Proclamation on the Family are the Lord's teachings, and if you don't believe the Church is true than you really don't have much to say regarding its doctrine or policies since you deny the Lord leads it anyway).

Remember

President Monson said that we are in a war against sin. That the commander of the right is the Lord. Given that, I am certain that whatever the Church is attempting to do (in this case in particular) will be in that context.

I trust President Monson because he trusts in and has faith in the Lord.

bridges

I imagine the building of a skybridge to bring together productively two areas of thought with places of beauty along the way to ponder and enjoy the journey.

To Interesting...

I'm not afraid of you as a person and I'm very tolerant of you people and I will be amongst the first people to say that bashing others because of their lifestyle etc is absolutely wrong. Just remember though that the Church is not going to change its doctrinal beliefs and teachings to stray away from traditional family values. Sorry to be blunt but that's just how it is...

Me

"Sometimes we become so open minded that our brains fall out."

Sometimes our minds are so locked up they don't work. And sometimes our hearts are so righteous that they're not much good for caring for our fellow Man.

Ken Baguley

The report I read indicated that the expectation was that the church should change with no attitude of change in "The Group" Let's be open-minded and subject to change where change is possible...On both sides...

Best Wishes

I wish this meeting all the best. I hope and pray that those who need a meeting like this will seek first to hear counsel from the Lord, and not to counsel the Lord. God loves His children. He seeks to help all who are willing to obey Him. If we are humble enough to know God's will--sometimes given directly to us through His servants--He will always work out a better plan in our lives than we would otherwise grant ourselves. I hope the individuals calling for this meeting are sincere in their desire to receive help at the hand of God's servants. I hope they are ready to not only hear but also receive the word of the Lord.

RE:To Interesting

Can you show me where it says that this meeting is about asking the church to change it's doctrine? It clearly states the opposite, they are NOT asking for the church to change it's doctrine, but wants to discuss other topics. And I can handle blunt, just not hypocricy.

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