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Nations don't grasp migrants' value, a visitor to Utah says

Published: Friday, April 4 2008 12:41 a.m. MDT

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Anonymous

Oh I hate to see the comments that are going to come on this one...

GO BACK TO MEXICO

go back to mexico and let my tax's go towards the future up my kids and not to mex's who take up my very hard Eraned Money/Taxs for their cumy life's. % says mexicans take more my taxs for them then my kids future thats suck for those who Fallow the U.S. LAWS...

If YOU R LIVIN here in U.S.A

Learn ENGLISH

Wait in line like the honest human's to do the paper work to be called Americans then you'll have my respect

TILL THEN GO BACK HOME TO MEXICO

America's crime will most likly fall and more money towards those that work hard the correct way, Tax's and such for the future of hard workin american childern

BBKing

Let me be the first comment on the positive side, that the influx can be incredibly good. The US has gone through massive immigration swings before and handled it quite well, unless we want to give Ted Kennedy back. (tongue in cheek.)

That aside, this immigration wave has been handled pretty sloppy on both sides. The first player was the free market/labor folks and instead of asking for serious immigration/visa reform, knowing there was a problem, they did the wink and knod and just let it flow. The business community, the law and order ones, the ones who read Adam Smith, etc should have been the first to get serious about fixing it.

They didn't so the other side steps up with demands for enforcement of our laws before they will go for any visa reform. They get equally sloppy in being so zealous for enforcement they often refuse to even sit down and try to find common ground towards solutions.

In any case, I personally think we are headed in the right direction. Rep Cannon has signed onto the SAVE Act, which proves enforcement is here. Next is some serious visa reform. And in all of it, Sovereignty.

Jones is correct

that a root solution to the flood of illegal aliens will be for Mexico to address the massive problems it has; corruption, bribery and lack of respect for the law being highest among them.

If the individuals who come here would instead spend their energies improving their own society both our nations would benefit.

Mexican politicians have a vested interest in the current chaos because it removes pressure to reduce corruption they benefit from.

The solution to Mexico's culture of corruption and lawlessness is not to import an illegal lawbreaking underclass into the US.

For Jones to suggest that the current situation benefits the US is untrue.

Local property taxpayers all over the US are weary of seeing their taxes rise to pay for free medical care in emergency rooms, education expenses for non citizens, the cost of criminal activity by illegal aliens and subsequent court and prison costs.

Jones may put lipstick on this pig but it won't hide the squealing blubber from US taxpayers.

UNFACTUAL

It doesn't matter how many ways you journalists try to twist, spin, contort & repackage the same old story. As if something new has been discovered by Jeffry Jones. Like Mexico hasn't bordered the United State for the past 200 years & we're learning something new!

FACTS: US SCHOOLS, HOSPITALS & PRISONS ARE FULL OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS!! All costs paid for by US taxpayers. ITS A BOLD FACE LIE TO SUGGEST THAT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS CONTRIBUTE TO THE US ECONOMY ANYTHING CLOSE TO WHAT THEY TAKE OUT!! DO YOU REALLY THINK A $9/HOUR JOB CONTRIBUTES ANYTHING TO THE US TAX SYSTEM? FACTS: ONLY INDUSTRIES THAT HIRE ILLEGALS ARE ENRICHED!! THEY PAY LOWER LABOR RATES & PROVIDE NO BENEFITS! GUESS AGAIN WHO SUBSIDIES THESE BUSINESSES BENEFIT PACKAGES(health insurance)? US TAXPAYERS!! Of course, when facts are established then it becomes all about racism or compassion. (NOTE THAT ALL COMMENTS ARE ABOUT ILLEGAL STATUS NOT ABOUT ETHNICITY!!!)

Facts don't matter! WHERE'S THE REAL JOURNALISTS? THOSE EXPOSING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE REAL COSTS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION TO AMERICA! WHAT'S WRONG WITH AMERICA? LOUSY JOURNALISM! INDIVIDUALS IN MEDIA ARE UNINFORMED, UNFACTUAL & UNTRUTHFULL. TO DN STAFF WRITERS, PLEASE CONSIDER A NEW PROFESSION!

Yeahright

Oh I can't wait to be a citizen of Canimexamerica!! I wish they'd build a wall 30 feet high and 10 feet thick...

Yeah, right.

OK, the over-crowded classrooms, over-crowded emergency rooms, the pillaging of welfare, CHIP, Medicaid and every other social program is great for America and the American taxpayer.

Jay

Why is that so many seemingly "intelligent" people, like Mr. Jones, lack the understanding of the difference between legal immigration and ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION?

What I want to know is what's in it for these characters who are supporting illegals?

Utahn

This is so much baloney I want to puke. The DN and the reporter should be ashmamed to show their faces after writing propaganda like this. The United States is doomed right now to a slow death caused by illegal aliens. Just read the newspapers to learn what "value" they add to our country: crime,welfare,disease and financial ruin. The majority of violent crime in Utah is committed by illegal aliens and you want to bring more here? Cultural diversity has clearly failed. History has never recorded a successful cultural integration, only death and destruction. That will be the future we leave to our children if we allow illegal aliens to come here.

Conejo

Here we go. So, Mexico only benefits for the first 15 years? That must be why the USA benefits so much out of this. They start helping AFTER 15 years! All of a sudden they get insurance and start paying their own medical bills right? Not much to back up this opinion on the immigrants helping other than there was a "study". Mexico is just starting to realize all there workers are coming over here. OH NO! We better do something to help our citizens find jobs here! This is great propaganda from the Mexico side.

Consider the source

In case you missed it, Mr. Jones is an employee of the Mexican Government. On December 7th, Calderon ordered his diplomats to put a positive face on the Mexican population in the US.
Don't blame Mexico. Last summer Bush did the same thing with a whitewash study by his Council of Economic Advisers.
It is generally believed that illegals are a revenue PLUS for the feds, although the impact of the underground economy cannot be quantified.
State and local governments bear the brunt of the problem without much revenue in return. True, they pay sales tax, but when you cram four families in a single family home the property tax model goes berserk.
As others have already commented, "It's the ILLEGAL part, stupid!"

JWK

There are some positive things but there are more negative things. First, if we don't have border integrity then we are not a country. Second, the cost of lost income because illegals suppress the labor market. Third, the cost to our infrastructure such as hospitals that close because of inadequate funding. Fourth, increasing crime (not all because of illegals but a significant percentage.) Fifth, illegal voter fraud because of the motor voter law. Sixth, illegals filing of taxes only to benefit from Earned Income. (They take out much more than they pay in. The EIC program is fraught with fraud.) Seventh, almost $40 billion is sent to other countries from illegal immigrants that would certainly help our economy if spent here.

I have more reasons but it is safe to say that while I agree to treating illegals humanely, I think we need to seal up the border to begin with. Right now, Polosi and the Democrat leadership is stopping the SAVE act and looking to put forth a 5 year amnesty plan. Research it and call your Congressmen.

BigBrent

Both congressman Cannon and Bishop realize something has to be done and have signed the discharge petition for the SAVE act. Congressman Matheson signed on as a co-sponsor of the bill but has so far refused to sign the discharge petition to allow the bill to get to the house floor for a vote. I think this is both disengenuous and dhisonest.

Utah's citizens need to bombard gutless Matheson with E-Mails, phone calls, faxs, and letters to give him a little backbone to stand up to the democrat leadership that want this severely needed bill killed.

someone

You know, the headline is right. It is good for us. The police and the prisons will always have work as long as the current trend exists

Professor

So M13 is good for the United States After all!

Pa. Reader

Every objective study shows immigrants (including ilegals) bring a net gain to our economy. Bigots who protest the use of their taxes to support "illegals" are buying into the hate-speech of extremist radio talk show hosts and myopic politicians who cherry-pick emotional issues and enrich themselves by appealing to the worst instincts in shallow people. The disdain shown towards Hispanic immigrants -- illegal or not -- has its roots in racism, whether the haters admit it or not. Canadian citizens who work here illegally, and there are many, do not incite the same extreme anger. After all, they look and sound like the majority in this country so they must be o.k. Immigration issues should be dealt with in a rational way. Labor, much as capital, should be allowed to flow freely accross borders, within appropriate regulations. The world economy is here. The haters will eventually be left behind.

Anonymous

The Mexican government doesn't care about missing workers. They actually encourage illegal immigration, they teach classes on US social programs. The money illegals earn enriches South America not the United States. They don't spend it here they send it home. At the same time they are bilking the US social programs in the amount of billions of dollars yearly. No, it is not an equal exchange, not even close. Crime and low morals is another reason why I am opposed to them being here.

fed up with propaganda

This kind of one sided reporting is why I quit take the Deseret News several years ago. ALL IS WELL, ALL IS WELL.

Spanky

Nothing more than a public relations ad for Mexico and illegals. They can see the writing on the wall. A growing number of LEGAL American citizens are becoming fed up with the problems they bring, and are tired of paying their way. So what do they do? Hire a public relations firm to put out articles like this. Well, as they say.........it's ain't gonna work.

Kawalh

Not legal, no respect. To be legal, get in line, then they get respect and only then.

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