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New LDS ad campaign touts the 'Truth Restored'
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About the history thing--don't let the "history" of the Church lead you astray. Coming from deep historical roots in the Church, I've had the opportunity to study the Church's history as an insider. I have found that at times, people truly have made mistakes, but those were the mistakes of people, not God. I try not to let people and their actions get in the way of my salvation.
One man's testimony does not equal the truth.
Didn't someone mention "straining at a nat and swallowing a camel?"
Where are the Samuel the Lamanites? Where are the Pauls? Where are the Aarons and the Moseses?
The world needs to be called to repentance not made to feel good.
The PR department has taken over the church.
More People are Hearing about God's True Church and irrespective of Peoples" Views......they are actually seeing, hearing and discussing the Lord's Gospel!
Jesus, even 2000 Years ago, was very subtle in his use of Parables and Miracles, to create an instant PR effect!!
With Modern Technology, which after all, came about by the Knowledge which God endowed us all with, will permit the Lord's True Church to bring more and more yearning Souls into contact with our Young and amazing Humble Missionaries!!!!
In my Country, right this Minute, Billy Graham's Son is using MASS ADVERTISING in just the same Manner.........."what's good for the Goose is good for............!!!!!!
The LDS Church is bringing more and more Souls closer to the knowledge of Our Lord's Restored Gospel!!!!
- The Mormon leaders are inspired - to work hard and use their talents the best they can in the Lord's work. Miracles come through strange means. Why did Christ mix clay and put it on the blind man's eyes, instead of insta-healing him without clay?
"And why would Jesus want $1.5 bil spent on a mall?"
- Is building a city ever free? Did the Jews build Jerusalem for free? Did Enoch build Zion for free? It is not wrong for the Church to work with the community to build a pleasant environment for its members.
"Is that what His church and followers would do with money? Or, would they feed the poor, clothe the naked, etc.?"
- Do some research. The LDS church does TONS for the poor and needy worldwide.
"...if the church is so great, why the need to sell it at all?"
- It's precisely because it is "so great" that we want to use every means possible to share the message of Christ with all the world.
On a different note, I think the campain is a great move forward and will introduce something into many individuals lives that will improve their lives immeasurably
Also, as stated through revelation, "For there are many yet on the earth among all sects, parties, and denominations, who are blinded by the subtle craftiness of men, whereby they lie in wait to deceive, and who are only kept from the truth because they know not where to find it." I think this will help greatly.
The comment about truth only being found in revelation bothers me though, because revelation can be just as hard to prove true as history's truths. It seems to me neither one is very easy to prove.
Still, I can't imagine God wants us to close our eyes to using our intellect in our search for truth, which include historical truths. Ultimately, a belief in Jesus probably includes a look at history.
I think people have a right to get angry when we act like know-it-alls - or when we think the "end" of getting them to join the church is more important that the "means" which is just to treat them with respect and love even if they believe differently than we do. Their "revelation" is just as worthy as ours. I can't stomach the salesman tactic - or any tactic - love is the most important truth anyway.
I may have known you when you were a child. The apparent bitterness in your voice is sad to hear.
If God were to show his face tomorrow morning, would you honestly then �believe� again? Why is the �angel story� unbelievable? What �proof�, (not conjecture nor agenda; but irrefutable, solid evidence only) can you specifically offer to show that the Book of Mormon has been �disproven�? When you were actively recruited away from the faith, did those marketers not similarly sell you a dogma which is equally, or even more, difficult to believe as that which you now strike out against? Are those who founded and promulgated your currently accepted dogma any more trustworthy than was Joseph Smith? What stories now give value and meaning to your life?
There's no such thing as �cold�. There's only an absolute lack of heat, or varying degrees thereof. Heat can be removed; thereby creating a false illusion of �cold�. �Cold� can not be �increased�.
The same applies to spiritual things. One can only remove him(her)self from the presence of God. That doesn�t mean there is no God. It means only that we are less able to know Him and His influence.
NOW? As in recent, like the word is defined?
187 years ago is not RECENT.
You are correct "Jesus was a Jew." Then he rose the third day! What immensely good news! I'm glad we're sharing it!
I'm not afraid of any of our Church History, and I'm proud that the Missionaries primary answer to any of my questions was Search the Scriptures, Ponder it in your Heart, and Pray about it.
My heart was able to hear the answers when it was not what I was looking for!
I'm eternally grateful for our Missionaries, and the wonderful love our Members have for people of other faiths! April 1999 Conversion
People really need to argue everything don't they.
To those with good friendly commenting:
Cheers!
By your (invented) criteria, Jesus himself would not have qualified as a Christian.
Did you forget to read your scriptures? Jesus spoke negatively and harshly against the scribes and pharisees. He stood in the marketplace and cried out with a loud voice against unrighteousness.
You need to open your eyes and pull the scales from them so you can see the truth. This "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all" doctrine is fine for preschoolers, but when we grow up we advance to new levels of morality and ethics.
It is time to grow up, my friend.
But then the judgment begins. People judge you and criticize you for not being perfect. They gather into their own little groups and talk behind the backs of others. It is sickening.
The meetings are as boring as can be, and they are a waste of time. AFter 40 years, I found better ways to use my time.
Beware these commercials. They are deceptive.
Now the LDS Church has joined the enemy. Now the LDS Church will play in the same space, giving you "lifestyle" advertisements to convince you that your life is miserable without the Church in it; to convince you that "the world" is a horrible place that is going to be destroyed; to persuade you that all the other Churches are false and the only TRUE church is the LDS church!
What an embarrassing trend for those who claim NOT to be interested in MERE NUMBERS, but who claim to be interested in saving individual souls!
Mass marketing is about MASS NUMBERS! Now the Church is using mass marketing.
The word "apostasy" comes to mind...
The gospel of Jesus Christ.
Now there is "Another Testament of Jesus Christ" - the Book of Mormon.
Just in case you didn't believe the Old Testament or the New Testament, now you can have Another Testament. Just in case you didn't believe Jesus when he taught the beatitudes, now you can have them repeated in the BOM.
Just in case you didn't get enough of the genocide in the Old Testament, now you can read about more genocide in the BOM.
Just in case you were tired of the persecutions consequent to the Inquisition, now you can see a new religious hierarchy to compete with the Pope, only he is called a Prophet now, and there is debate over whether or not he is infallible.
Just in case you thought that we were finally overcoming the religious fanaticism, elitism, and fascism that almost destroyed the world so far, now there is another contender for contender for hegemony. And the message of this "restoration" is being broadcast using the best marketing methods available!
Now don't you feel blessed?
There are many ways to give aide...most of the time the church teaches people how to care for their own rather than giving hand outs. People should be careful how they judge Charity and what the money is spent for.
I have watched and benefited from their disbursement as I have attended church in warm buildings, felt to make changes in my life as I take sacrament and remember The Savior, attended temples, sent my children to primary taught from lesson manuals paid for by the church and to post-secondary institutions heavily subsidized by the church, enjoyed meals at tables with fellow saints, and much more. This I have done in CA, OH, AK, PA, UT, TX, MI, IL, MA, Wash DC, WA state, Canada, AZ, HI, Italy, Guatemala, Mexico, & Honduras.
The church is speaking for me when they publish these ads.
The ads offer those not of my faith an opportunity to understand a little about me and the faith I espouse.
Ads for products generally do not represent my voice. These ads get MY message out too. They really say, "this is why my colleague broderickmom doesn't drink at social gatherings... it's a mormon thing".
So, read, go online, learn, believe or not- At least embrace a cultural diversity that includes my voice.
Sorry, but I stopped entertaining "the truth" the moment I learned about seer stones, black hats and disappearing golden plates. And was magnified by the "commandment" of having lots of wives.
Hey, idea... give tithing refunds to the folks that are choosing tithes over decent meals at home instead of trying to "slick" into people's lives with your crazy promises that will only cost a minimum of ten percent of income for the REST OF THEIR LIVES!
How about a refund to the kids who come from poor families that work their patooties off and faithfully give ten percent of every meager dollar they earn to the mormon corp.? Kids like that have to decide when they go to the store to buy their own socks and underwear, their own shampoo and other toiletries what they "won't" get because ten percent of what they earned is gone.
But lets all get some warm fuzzies for the gorgeous advertisements.
Doesn't anybody stop to ask... if this whole religion thing was really so powerful and if this mormon religion was so "the only true religion", would god really require a spread in Time magazine over helping the needy?
If I were a god, I'd be torked.
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That would be something! "Come unto Christ" right after "Drink Bud Light" and just before the Budweiser Clydesdales!
All kidding aside, I think that is what bothers me about this - can Salvation be made into a Product and sold to mass markets without losing what salvation is all about?