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Published: Tuesday, April 1 2008 12:18 a.m. MDT

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re: Gay Agenda Definition

Gay Agenda Definition
They have equal rights. You mean additional rights.
There is a Gay Agenda. It is to get the lifestyle mainstreamed and accepted as normal by whatever means necessary. Hence SB1441 in Cal. Also, about 15 years ago the Congress debated a bill that had an addendum that would have "forced" ALL universities to teach creationism and homosexuality as an alternate lifestyle. Most people don't know how close the church came to closing the doors of BYU, Ricks, and BYU-H. I was not involved directly but I was a pretty close bystander to the administrators (almost family close), and they were VERY worried. Luckily the bill failed. You want an agenda put that on the list.
Also, fall 2007 there was a class on Michigan's campus title "How to be Gay: Male Homosexuality as a Cultural Practice". It was repeatble for a total of six credit hours. Eng317 sec001. Taught by Halperin,David M. Our tax dollars at work!

Anonymous

As a straight male I would agree that gay behavior is weird to me, but I really don't care one way or the other what other do.
The people who make the biggest deal about it are no doubt hiding something.

noodle

I would like to know how some people would feel if i said that i don't want to have the christian agenda pushed on me. I don't want to have my children indoctrinated with their beliefs. Christianity is not the only way to be a person who has sound morals.

Anonymous

Someday, hopefully sooner than later, the phrase "Gay lifestyle" or "Gay agenda" will be thought of like we think the phrase "taking the motor car to the moving picture show" is for us today.

irony

The ironic thing is that lesbians have far lower STD rates than heterosexuals. So should we avoid that unhealthy straight lifestyle??

what are they hiding?

A truly happy, well-adjusted straight person isn't concerned with the sexual habits of others.

They simply do not care one way or the other.

I wonder what it is that the most vicious of gay-haters are hiding (or trying to hide)?

Re: hiding?

"A truly happy, well-adjusted straight person isn't concerned with the sexual habits of others?"

What an extremely naive and thoughtless comment. I'm sure I could give you examples of sexual habits that would upset even you, but this is a family newspaper blog.

I don't hate gays and have nothing to hide, but I do fear that if the gay lifestyle ever becomes the "norm," there will be nothing left of society worth preserving.

re: what are they hiding?

Fact is: we don't care one way or the other about your sexual habits. That's ultimately between you and God. What we do care about is your incessant whining for the public acceptance of your habits.

Simple concept here: if you don't want people to talk about it, keep it to yourselves.

PS - your argument doesn't really gain anything by the constant name calling of anyone who disagrees with you.

Indiana

Listen up you defensive types. I just read nearly every message on here. I did NOT, repeat, did NOT read any overt hate. No one hates you. You get mad at people because they say homosexuality is a sin. Well, it is! If that makes you upset, get mad a God; alot of good that will do you. We did not make the rules. We do however stand by the Saviour and the rules He set up for those who wish to return to His presence. All sexual promiscuity is a sin, heterosexual and homosexual. Sex is for within the bonds of marriage for 2 people (a man and a woman) who have saved that precious gift for the one they want to spend their life/eternity with. This life is not all there is. It is however a time to prepare to meet God and we don't want to waste it.

No one hates you. We just do NOT like the sin and the way it is growing and affecting youth...

WJ

I don't believe that homosexuality should be portrayed as acceptable, but be careful how you judge. I once knew someone who was gay who would have chosen not to be if he could.

Ya know...

...there are no debates as to if heterosexuality is right or not. So, if it takes 3 pages to discuss this, and many pages every time this issue comes up, couldn't it be a possibility this is NOT a good thing to be involved in? Just a thought.

Houston

I get so tired of hearing about the "gay agenda". I have been in a relationship for 10 years and the only agenda I have is to go bowling 2 nights a week and to keep my life as simple as possible.

I work hard, try to live a good life, pay my bills and travel when I feel like it.

I don't tell my children to hate others because they are different. I have served my church and my country.

Now let me live in peace as far away from the bigots that populate the state of Utah.

yep, definitely hiding something

A glance at Re: hiding 3:55 & 4:04
indicates that these people simply cannot get beyond their obsession with gay people and what gay people do or don't do in the privacy of their own homes. These people who are obviously hiding something (those 100% secure with their sexuality, simply don't care) and would have us believe gay people are storming into their houses like al quaida is supposed to do and performing sexual acts in front of them.

I think there is some deep-hidden sickness amongst these types who obsess about this.

DeLaval Milker

Oren writes "It's a choice and not a good one"??

When did you choose straight? Further to that, do you suppose someone would ever subject themselves voluntarily to the abuse, discrimination and hostility that must come with being gay in the most narrow minded place in the nation by choosing to do so?

rich

Utah County is the a joke.
I love reading about the people there, I love seeing the movies that unmask the truth about Utah County, it really is fun.
Thanks again Utah County, you gave me something to laugh at, unfortunately you are hurting other people with your hate laws and your false sense of superiority.
One thing is for sure, if there is a Jesus, he loves everyone, even the gays. I know that's a news flash for all you LDS/Utah County people, but it is true. I use to go to the LDS church, and they actually teach love, there is just a huge disconnect with the teachings and what is practiced.
Thanks for the laughs though.

Ray

Homosexuals have to be made to remain in the closet, there is no place for such abnormal behavior in an open civilized society. Homosexuality like crime or any other adverse social condition increases and spreads when not controled. In the schools, like drugs, it is passed off as being cool. Too many young people are getting off on the wrong foot because of gay influence.

Live and let live

I'm LDS, I don't mind people being Gay. I don't want Gay unions to be labeled Marriage for my own reasons or my children to feel that Gay is normal/acceptable as behavior in their youth at least, where I, being the parent, would have influence over their future and growth.

I can teach them that it is wrong and the religious philosophy behind it. However, I would also teach that everyone has the agency or will to decide for themselves what they will. I teach that it is wrong in God's eyes but that it isn't my place to force my will on others.

So in this light understand that being LDS doesn't mean hating Gays.(Utah is irrelevant, people on here REALLY need to travel more... It does happen to be a national topic of debate)

But there are some who are LDS who are more extreme. There are some who are Gay who are extreme. I have a friend who is gay and we get along fine. Why can't you people?

Many shout against my freedom to speech on this matter. They are wrong. There are two sides. I'm getting along, I know some gays who do.

MP

I believe that we, as a society, are confused about what is right & wrong! Read & ponder the following -
2 Timothy 3: 1-7
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Live and let live Continued..

My point is that I live with the acknowledgment that I believe as I do and so does my neighbor. This meeting isn't intolerance. Teaching that same-gender attraction is a social problem under certain views while acknowledging that the others are free to think is not intolerance.

This is called a difference of opinion. Intolerance would be teaching children that no one has the right to be Gay or that they don't have to respect someone who is Gay because of the fact.

Intolerance is stating to a person that disagrees and goes their own way that they are in error and doesn't accept their rights either.

Just live and let live!

jay

what exactly is the 'homosexual agenda?' and if such an agenda exists, then I am really interested as to what part of elementary school curriculum it falls under. Math? Science? Social Studies?

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