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President Monson cheers on Jazz
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To elo | 9:34 a.m. March 29, 2008
Why did you let all the unwashed masses in on the truth? This paper is 100%
propaganda. Therefore, it follows that eventhough President Monson was at the
game, and said he liked jazz, the ugly, disgusting, evil truth is he absolutely
loves the LAKERS. When will the lies stop?
Anonymous | 9:34 a.m. March 29, 2008
This is a side of President Monson I have'nt seen. I hope his ego doesnt
take over.
Jazz Fan (The Original) | 9:38 a.m. March 29, 2008
Re: Sloanshock & Elo....
You guys think your comments are stirring the pot since most of the comments are refuting your musings. What a crock! Who cares!! Your world view is a joke. Security is always at work. No one would be able to walk by the Jazz player seating area without already being scrutinized by security. They know who is seated in the rows that have to use this area to return to their seats. Thank goodness you and others who have no business to know, what security measures are in place have any clue what security is doing about crowd control in the VIP seating areas. Grow up my friends! Find some other place to vent your baloney. The Deseret News is probably biased...just as any other publication...but is nothing like the New York, Boston, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles Times, San Francisco, Seattle, Atlanta, and all the other notoriously slanted news entities around the country. You are way out of phase my friends. You guys are getting dumped on big time....and deservedly so. You guys are sad, and need some valium or prosac.
I was happy to see President Monson and his wife out with the fans.
You guys think your comments are stirring the pot since most of the comments are refuting your musings. What a crock! Who cares!! Your world view is a joke. Security is always at work. No one would be able to walk by the Jazz player seating area without already being scrutinized by security. They know who is seated in the rows that have to use this area to return to their seats. Thank goodness you and others who have no business to know, what security measures are in place have any clue what security is doing about crowd control in the VIP seating areas. Grow up my friends! Find some other place to vent your baloney. The Deseret News is probably biased...just as any other publication...but is nothing like the New York, Boston, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles Times, San Francisco, Seattle, Atlanta, and all the other notoriously slanted news entities around the country. You are way out of phase my friends. You guys are getting dumped on big time....and deservedly so. You guys are sad, and need some valium or prosac.
I was happy to see President Monson and his wife out with the fans.
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cj in brooklyn | 9:38 a.m. March 29, 2008
Listen folks, I'm a Mormon and I find the thought of anyone disrupting a
huddle a little presumptuous. All of you need to stop throwing the
"anti" label at anyone who disagrees with anything our church leaders
do. Pres. Monson being at the game? Awesome. Interrupting a game time huddle?
Not very awesome.
Shem | 9:45 a.m. March 29, 2008
Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, Boyd K. Packer,
eloquently taught in the October 2007 General Conference:
"There is a unique equality among members. No one of us is to consider himself of more value than the other (see D&C 38:24�25). �God is no respecter of persons: but in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him� (Acts 10:34�35; see also Romans 2:11; D&C 1:35; 38:16).
"There is the natural tendency to look at those who are sustained to presiding positions, to consider them to be higher and of more value in the Church or to their families than an ordinary member. Somehow we feel they are worth more to the Lord than are we. It just does not work that way!"
It is unfortunate that the idolatrous tendency among members of the LDS Church prompts them to forget what President Packer has taught and, instead, to treat "Member" Monson as "worth more" than other members. I'm confident Monson wasn't the only member at the game. But he sure was esteemed as of higher value. Pitiful.
"There is a unique equality among members. No one of us is to consider himself of more value than the other (see D&C 38:24�25). �God is no respecter of persons: but in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him� (Acts 10:34�35; see also Romans 2:11; D&C 1:35; 38:16).
"There is the natural tendency to look at those who are sustained to presiding positions, to consider them to be higher and of more value in the Church or to their families than an ordinary member. Somehow we feel they are worth more to the Lord than are we. It just does not work that way!"
It is unfortunate that the idolatrous tendency among members of the LDS Church prompts them to forget what President Packer has taught and, instead, to treat "Member" Monson as "worth more" than other members. I'm confident Monson wasn't the only member at the game. But he sure was esteemed as of higher value. Pitiful.
discrimination | 9:42 a.m. March 29, 2008
Its not fair that Pres. Monson likes the Jazz. How many LDS play for the Jazz?
Why can't he like Mad dog's team, or maybe the Celts, because of
Ainge.
The worst part is that he can't chear on BYU, they were one and done. Eat that BYU!!!
Just kidding, I like Pres. Monson and BYU, and if he likes the Jazz, its a free country, we have our FREE AGENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The worst part is that he can't chear on BYU, they were one and done. Eat that BYU!!!
Just kidding, I like Pres. Monson and BYU, and if he likes the Jazz, its a free country, we have our FREE AGENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous | 9:48 a.m. March 29, 2008
This is news?
What a joke. Too bad we have this current newspaper situation. The trib is full of angry anti-mormon sentiment, where the d-news is mormon propaganda. I'm searching for something inbetween. What happened to at least trying to be objective. President Monson is my leader but it's not news if he goes to a Jazz game. Can I expect to read about when he goes shopping as well?
What a joke. Too bad we have this current newspaper situation. The trib is full of angry anti-mormon sentiment, where the d-news is mormon propaganda. I'm searching for something inbetween. What happened to at least trying to be objective. President Monson is my leader but it's not news if he goes to a Jazz game. Can I expect to read about when he goes shopping as well?
John Thomas | 9:43 a.m. March 29, 2008
The only thing remotely "creepy" from the event was that he wore a
concervative suit and tie to a sporting event. But then again, taht is President
Monson. Always living his religion.
How does wearing a suit to a sporting event have anything to do with "living your religion"? I guess poor people (who can't afford a suit) are damned to hell?
How does wearing a suit to a sporting event have anything to do with "living your religion"? I guess poor people (who can't afford a suit) are damned to hell?
Re: elo | 9:44 a.m. March 29, 2008
You don't seem to know what the word "propaganda" means
either.
If the Deseret News is "propaganda," as you say, why do read it? You evidently love to read "propaganda."
Sorry, you are "anti-Mormon" whether you wish to accept that appellation or not. When you say "the LDS church is full of it," you only prove the point.
If the Deseret News is "propaganda," as you say, why do read it? You evidently love to read "propaganda."
Sorry, you are "anti-Mormon" whether you wish to accept that appellation or not. When you say "the LDS church is full of it," you only prove the point.
Re: Shem | 9:48 a.m. March 29, 2008
"he sure was esteemed as of higher value. Pitiful."
Please define "esteemed of higher value." It's pitiful that people need to nitpick.
Please define "esteemed of higher value." It's pitiful that people need to nitpick.
To Shem | 9:49 a.m. March 29, 2008
Um, no one made the "worth more" argument.
Fredd | 9:50 a.m. March 29, 2008
To Jazz Fan: Next time you are at a game, come down frpm your nosebled seats at
halftime. Come through the tunnel the players use and sit courtside until the
lower bowl fills up. Just keep moving up into vacant seats as the real tickect
holders come back from extended halftime breaks. I've sat down there for
the whole third quarter before. They even hand out halftime stat sheets. I
told Sloan to play Chris Morris more, I high fived Malone, and shook hands with
Ostertag. All before or after games. I was outside the locker rooms during the
finals. All on my upper bowl tickets.
9:15 & 9:20 | 10:01 a.m. March 29, 2008
You kind of people kill me. ANTI-ANTI on everything in your lives I would
assume. What would your feelings be on Drugs and Crime? How do you feel about
your mother and dad? Do you like your job? How about todays weather,is it
acceptable? Proof read your blog, is it right? What a joke.
Re: James | 10:06 a.m. March 29, 2008
Hey James, You must be a Laker fan! Dont read the article if you dont like
the babbling.
ridiculous overreaction | 10:13 a.m. March 29, 2008
It's just a fun, human interest story - for about 60% of Utah. Why does
the other 40% even care? What's the big deal?
As for the Salvation army, Africa and suit comments - do all of you all donate 100% of what you make over and above your basic needs for food and shelter? Can't a guy take his wife out on a fun date? Do you have ANY idea how much time and energy and money Pres. Monson expends on the poor of this world? And has for a lifetime? Ever take a tour of Welfare Square? Who do you suppose runs it? Hundreds of millions of dollars donated to feed and cloth the poor around the world, and you are worried somebody spent a little of his own money (or for that matter, probably a friend gave him tickets) for a game.
As for the Salvation army, Africa and suit comments - do all of you all donate 100% of what you make over and above your basic needs for food and shelter? Can't a guy take his wife out on a fun date? Do you have ANY idea how much time and energy and money Pres. Monson expends on the poor of this world? And has for a lifetime? Ever take a tour of Welfare Square? Who do you suppose runs it? Hundreds of millions of dollars donated to feed and cloth the poor around the world, and you are worried somebody spent a little of his own money (or for that matter, probably a friend gave him tickets) for a game.
Brother of Mahonri | 10:14 a.m. March 29, 2008
Anonymous: I see you have a problem with reading comprehension. I mentioned
nothing about service. I mentioned SECURITY. And their job is to protect the
players and coach from fans getting onto the court during the game.
Unbelievable | 10:16 a.m. March 29, 2008
That's the spirit! Let's all mock and ridicule each other, in the name
of religion! Settle down boys and girls.
Lil' John was all over the court during last weeks game, and nobody gave a flying rip. I daresay Pres. Monson is much more of a celebrity in Utah, so I fail to understand what is so shocking that he was trying to enjoy the Jazz game like a regular person.
He patted the coach on the back to congratulate him for a good game...yep...sounds like what any old man would do in that situation. Shocking!
Lil' John was all over the court during last weeks game, and nobody gave a flying rip. I daresay Pres. Monson is much more of a celebrity in Utah, so I fail to understand what is so shocking that he was trying to enjoy the Jazz game like a regular person.
He patted the coach on the back to congratulate him for a good game...yep...sounds like what any old man would do in that situation. Shocking!
coventryRM | 10:17 a.m. March 29, 2008
"Mormons were here in Utah long before you were. If it weren't for the
Mormons there would be no Utah. You are welcome to leave anytime, if you
don't like the way of life here, leave."
I find it interesting how mean and vicious LDS can be when someone shares a view or perception about the church that they feel is "anti" and then feel it is okay to attack an individual or person or even suggest they get out of dodge.
I find it interesting how mean and vicious LDS can be when someone shares a view or perception about the church that they feel is "anti" and then feel it is okay to attack an individual or person or even suggest they get out of dodge.
Yawn | 10:14 a.m. March 29, 2008
Is there a point to all the bickering I've read on this comment board?
Fact - President and Sister Monson went to a Jazz game. Not really what I call news, since president Monson has attended quite a few games over the years.
Fact - Some people don't like the LDS Church. That's okay, as long as they're civil about it.
Fact - Some people like to bicker about anything and everything. Why? I wish I knew.
If President Monson and his wife had decided to attend a Jazz game in Dallas, Houston or Atlanta and had gotten tickets near a group of baptists, NOW THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A STORY.
Fact - President and Sister Monson went to a Jazz game. Not really what I call news, since president Monson has attended quite a few games over the years.
Fact - Some people don't like the LDS Church. That's okay, as long as they're civil about it.
Fact - Some people like to bicker about anything and everything. Why? I wish I knew.
If President Monson and his wife had decided to attend a Jazz game in Dallas, Houston or Atlanta and had gotten tickets near a group of baptists, NOW THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A STORY.
Why do you guys... | 10:15 a.m. March 29, 2008
... even acknowledge sloansshock?
if you pick at a zit it only gets worse, ignore it and it will go away.
if you pick at a zit it only gets worse, ignore it and it will go away.
NCJazzFan | 10:29 a.m. March 29, 2008
Again I say. I'm glad I live 2000 miles from this drivel about the Jazz
and the Mormon Church. Anyone with 3 cents worth of brains would know that this
has nothing to do with the Mormon Church. Those who think that it does are
practicing the art of secular religion. Pres. Monson was there as a Jazz fan NOT
a representative of the Church. Abe Lincoln was right when he said
"It's better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove
all doubt."
AZ Fan | 10:32 a.m. March 29, 2008
I have sat in the court side seats a few times at Suns games and have given a
high five to more than one player as they went to huddle. A co-worker of mine
got a game worn jersey from Amar� Stoudemire after the game
in the tunnel that the court side ticket holders get to go into because of a
club under the seats. The Suns Locker room is down the same tunnel so the
players come in and shake hands and mingle. No big deal and I'm nobody. I
don't think it was weird. Perhaps it was bad timing but no big deal.
To odogtriever | 10:34 a.m. March 29, 2008
Dude (or "dudette", take your pick...), give me a freakin'
break!!! The article said that President Monson went to the game on a DATE WITH
HIS WIFE. Do they not deserve to do something they enjoy as a couple, or not?
Or if they do go out and participate in some activity together, since he's
the president of the LDS church, should it only be an activity that doesn't
require any money so they can give it to the poor instead?, since, hey, spending
money on an enjoyable activity with your spouse is obviously a
"sin".
I've got an idea, odogtriever, you go first. Why don't YOU not spend another penny on fun things to do, give the savings to the poor, and THEN you can criticize Thomas Monson....
I've got an idea, odogtriever, you go first. Why don't YOU not spend another penny on fun things to do, give the savings to the poor, and THEN you can criticize Thomas Monson....
Clark Roger | 10:37 a.m. March 29, 2008
To valhas5 - 7:23 a.m.
You're comments are worse than anything anyone else has said. I'm so tired of many of my fellow Latter-day Saints maintaining this "Love it or leave it" king of attitude. We should be welcoming people of different beliefs and ideas, not showing them the door.
As for President and Sister Monson attending a Jazz game, GREAT! Not exactly what I call a news story but at least it shows people that President Monson is human just like the rest of us. He too needs time to relax and let his hair down a little. After all, he just lost one of his best friends in the world in Gordon B. Hinckley, and the job he now has as LDS Church leader isn't an easy one by any standard.
I would be a little critical of President Monson tapping Jerry Sloan on the shoulder during the time out, except for the fact that the Jazz went on a tear afterwards and beat the Clippers by a good margin. It reminds me a little of an episode of Frasier, when a player for the Sonics begins to tap Niles on the head for good luck.
You're comments are worse than anything anyone else has said. I'm so tired of many of my fellow Latter-day Saints maintaining this "Love it or leave it" king of attitude. We should be welcoming people of different beliefs and ideas, not showing them the door.
As for President and Sister Monson attending a Jazz game, GREAT! Not exactly what I call a news story but at least it shows people that President Monson is human just like the rest of us. He too needs time to relax and let his hair down a little. After all, he just lost one of his best friends in the world in Gordon B. Hinckley, and the job he now has as LDS Church leader isn't an easy one by any standard.
I would be a little critical of President Monson tapping Jerry Sloan on the shoulder during the time out, except for the fact that the Jazz went on a tear afterwards and beat the Clippers by a good margin. It reminds me a little of an episode of Frasier, when a player for the Sonics begins to tap Niles on the head for good luck.
Oh my heavens | 10:44 a.m. March 29, 2008
Here it goes again, people making a big deal out of nothing. Jerry Sloan
didn't care, so neither should anyone else. I guarantee that if some
Hollywood celebrity had done the same thing, no one would have blinked an eye,
and they would have thought it was great.
More For Odogtriever | 10:46 a.m. March 29, 2008
How do you know that somebody didn't give their 3rd-row seat tickets to
President Monson? The article said he usually watches 1 or 2 Jazz games a month
from a VIP boxseat. In other words, you slam him for spending money on
courtside basketball tickets but how do you know somebody didn't graciously
offer him the tickets for free?
You don't know so please keep your criticizing attitude to yourself.
It isn't the presence of "you" that so many faithful LDS members find irritating, it's the presence of your snideful ATTITUDE when a good man like Thomas Monson did NOT do anything wrong.
You don't know so please keep your criticizing attitude to yourself.
It isn't the presence of "you" that so many faithful LDS members find irritating, it's the presence of your snideful ATTITUDE when a good man like Thomas Monson did NOT do anything wrong.
Go Jazz | 10:51 a.m. March 29, 2008
Do you guys have anything else better to do. Go Jazz and LDS faith
kurtlein | 10:46 a.m. March 29, 2008
I am not, nor have ever been, a Jazz fan but I am happy for President Monson to
have an opportunity to relax and spend time with his wife. He does a lot for
millions (LDS and non-LDS) around the world. I'm sure there had to be some
form of security around the teams so I doubt President Monson just "walked
up." Security would have had to let him pass. To Shem, no we don't
esteem "member" Monson more but the calling he has deserves respect
and reverence.
Boy, I Agree.... | 10:52 a.m. March 29, 2008
The Deseret News is most definitely not a "Mormon controlled paper".
To use your word specifically, if it was "controlled" by the LDS
church, do you really think that they'd allow such hateful things to be
said about their church in their own newspaper?
"Ownership" and "control", ie, "absolute power over", are 2 different things. Through these postings it's waaaaay obvious to me that the LDS church is exercising e-x-t-r-e-m-e patience in dealing with those that choose to hate them.
Why do you people hate the LDS church so much?
"Ownership" and "control", ie, "absolute power over", are 2 different things. Through these postings it's waaaaay obvious to me that the LDS church is exercising e-x-t-r-e-m-e patience in dealing with those that choose to hate them.
Why do you people hate the LDS church so much?
OH my.... goodness | 10:53 a.m. March 29, 2008
THERE IS BEAUTY ALL AROUND WHEN THERE'S LOVE IN .......... UTAH!
WOW!!!
I AM SHOCKED AT SUCH HARSH COMMENTS BY BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN.
MAKES ME WANT TO NEVER RETURN TO THE STATE OF MY BIRTH.
WHETHER OR NOT YOU AGREE WITH WHAT MR. MONSON DID, DO YOU THINK SLITTING EACH OTHERS THROATS IS RIGHT?
DO YOU THINK WE ARE PAST THE TIME OF "LOVING OUR NEIGHBOR"
WOW!!!
I AM SHOCKED AT SUCH HARSH COMMENTS BY BOTH SIDES OF THE COIN.
MAKES ME WANT TO NEVER RETURN TO THE STATE OF MY BIRTH.
WHETHER OR NOT YOU AGREE WITH WHAT MR. MONSON DID, DO YOU THINK SLITTING EACH OTHERS THROATS IS RIGHT?
DO YOU THINK WE ARE PAST THE TIME OF "LOVING OUR NEIGHBOR"
Wow... | 10:59 a.m. March 29, 2008
Did anyone else see that there are more posts on this article than on the acual
game? Get a life... Go do yard work or something...
Grandstanding | 11:08 a.m. March 29, 2008
It seems as though sitting courtside wasn't enought for Monson, he had to
do something to bring attention to himself. I think it is great that he is
involved in community events and that he is a Jazz fan -- it shows his interests
are more than religion and that he is like you and me. If Monson wanted to meet
the team, I'm sure Larry Miller would have been happy to arrange a personal
meeting. It seems proper decorum would dictate staying out of the huddle. His
actions outside of the huddle, joking with fans, cheering for the team, etc.
were more than enough. If he had stayed out of the huddle, we wouldn't be
debating his actions. Monson should continue to be active in the community, but
needs to consider his actions, especially now that he is Prophet.
Jazzaholic | 11:07 a.m. March 29, 2008
Back in the old Salt Palace, Present Monson came to about half the games and sat
about 9 rows behind the Jazz bench, right by our seats. So, he has been a Jazz
fan for a lot of years.
Don't you just love Jerry's humor, how he's always worried about someone yanking him out of the game, after all these years.
Jazzaholic
Don't you just love Jerry's humor, how he's always worried about someone yanking him out of the game, after all these years.
Jazzaholic
Iowa | 11:08 a.m. March 29, 2008
Pres. Monson obviously loves his wife and was following good council by taking
his wife out on a weekly date. Very romantic and a great example. Are we doing
the same for our wives? Thanks Brother Thomas for the reminder.
True | 11:23 a.m. March 29, 2008
Elo, the difference between the LDS church and the other religions in the world
is, that, it is TRUE.
--Side note, The LDS church is the one and only 100% true church, that doesn't mean 100% of its members are true.
--Side note, The LDS church is the one and only 100% true church, that doesn't mean 100% of its members are true.
The Only Problem | 11:17 a.m. March 29, 2008
The only problem was timing. I assume President Monson was socializing with
people (Possibly Larry Miller and family) at the half and this caused his late
return to his seats. I wouldn't be surprised if walking by the team and
coach and offering a hello was somewhat orchestrated (which is fine) but the
timing made it appear a bit intrusive. This is the same as if any other
dignitary or celebrity was in the same situation - the action of walking by and
saying hello is fine but the timing of being in a huddle a bit odd. Assume Sloan
was turned around, saw Monson coming and Monson offered a high five? That would
have been perfect and the crowd would have loved it. It was just the awkwardness
of the team turned around and in a huddle. My bet is that Larry Miller asked
Monson to walk by and say hello - again, they just should have timed it better.
JazzFan4ever | 11:20 a.m. March 29, 2008
So how about that win? Anybody? Anybody? :)It was one old guy patting another
old guy on the shoulder they thought nothing of it and neither should we.
Serving soup at the S Army? | 11:41 a.m. March 29, 2008
Get with it...Pres. Monson has been "serving soup" to the poor whis
whole life. I know, I lived in his middle class neighborhood. He is a great
common man with uncommon hunanitarian skills. A man of God.
BUG | 11:40 a.m. March 29, 2008
This is stupid people... we are all humans and are allowed to belive what we
choose. I am LDS and proud of it. We as "Mormons" do belive in things
such as the Book of Mormon and latter day Prophets. Does that make us weird? NO!
Does that make you anti-mormons weird to not belive? NO! But I will say this,
most anti mormons get their information from internet sites a other anti- mormon
sources. If you want to find out information, you have to go to the source. Now
if you have gone to the source and tried finding the facts and still don't
agree with us, thats fine. We aren't recruiting. We are normal humans just
like you. I dont see a problem with president Monson going to a jazz game. Why
is that such a big deal? Mormon, non mormons, even anti-mormons.... CHILL OUT!
He's a fan just like the rest of us and if youy cant handle that, then go
cheer for Miami and move out of Utah.
valhas5 | 11:58 a.m. March 29, 2008
To Anti Creepy, actually he had jeans on so he wasn't totally in ready to
go to church clothes. I actually hear and have seen that he wears jeans alot.
We were eating at The Spaggetti Factory a couple of weeks ago, and here comes
Pres. Monson and his wife and security men. He stopped at the table next to us
and said hi to thier baby, he was wearing jeans. Now I was shocked, I guess he
is human just like us. My friend said he goes into Cummings chocolates all the
time, and is always in jeans and his suit coat and tie. I think it was cool
that he was sitting down in the lower seats. And not in the suite. And fans who
have lower bowl seats close to the floor have access to the floor the whole game
any one of them could pat Sloan on the back. It was no big deal. Why people make
such a big deal out of a small thing is beyond me. And the church does more to
help other countries than any other religion. We are always the first to send
support in time of need!
Jazz Fan | 12:09 p.m. March 29, 2008
I just read the article about Pres. Monson attending a Utah Jazz game, I think
that is neat, because they need some down time themselves becacause they are
very busy people also we need to givbe them credit for supporting the Utah Jazz
valhas5 | 12:15 p.m. March 29, 2008
To Clark Roger, I just get sick and tired of non Mormons coming to Utah and
then complaining about or bashing Mormons. If I went to a state where the
prominent religion was Baptist I wouldn't go around bashing them. Or making
rude comments. If people hate the mormons so bad, they should leave and go where
they will be happier. Instead of bashing us for our beliefs. And it happens all
the time. People know that Utah is a Mormon run state, if they don't like
us then they should not come and live amongst us and bash us and say rude things
about us.
so why do people . . . | 12:26 p.m. March 29, 2008
. . . who have a problem with the fact that this paper is owned by the LDS
Church read it, and then complain? it doesn't seem very bright.
There is another paper in town for the mormon haters.
There is another paper in town for the mormon haters.
To elo | 12:32 p.m. March 29, 2008
Yes, we are full of it....full of the Holy Spirit that is :) :)
JAMES.....If I don't agree with your behavior or beliefs I don't go to your preferred website's and comment that your all wicked people who just don't know any better.....now THAT would be 'anti' behavior. Look in the mirror dude.
JAMES.....If I don't agree with your behavior or beliefs I don't go to your preferred website's and comment that your all wicked people who just don't know any better.....now THAT would be 'anti' behavior. Look in the mirror dude.
Phil | 12:34 p.m. March 29, 2008
To BUG,
Yes, Thomas Monson is a man. A common man. But your vitriol against people you call "anti-Mormon" is silly.
Do Mormons encourage their prostelytes to "go to the source" when they teach them about the apostasy of the Catholic church? Do Mormons tell people to go to the source when the claim that all other religions are "an abomination"? How many Mormon missionaries make referals to Catholic priests or theological seminaries so that people can learn about Catholicism FROM THE SOURCE?
What you posted is pure, unadulterated hypocrisy!
Yes, Thomas Monson is a man. A common man. But your vitriol against people you call "anti-Mormon" is silly.
Do Mormons encourage their prostelytes to "go to the source" when they teach them about the apostasy of the Catholic church? Do Mormons tell people to go to the source when the claim that all other religions are "an abomination"? How many Mormon missionaries make referals to Catholic priests or theological seminaries so that people can learn about Catholicism FROM THE SOURCE?
What you posted is pure, unadulterated hypocrisy!
Dell | 12:36 p.m. March 29, 2008
Terrific that President Monson was in and about the crowd! You are right,
Serving the Soup at the SArmy and assisting those in need have been a constant
in President Monson's life. He has a soft spot for the aged and his
frequent visits to senior care facilities are numerous. His heart is huge. As
a non-Mormon, I say, "Go, President Monson."
Whoa Nellie | 12:48 p.m. March 29, 2008
Hey odogtriever,
Wouldn't your money for an Internet connection be better served feeding and housing some poor kids in Africa who lost their Parents to Genicide or Aids? The prophet was on a date with his wife. It is better to spend some of one's money on a date with one's spouse than give all of one's money for charitable causes that you think are more deserving.
Wouldn't your money for an Internet connection be better served feeding and housing some poor kids in Africa who lost their Parents to Genicide or Aids? The prophet was on a date with his wife. It is better to spend some of one's money on a date with one's spouse than give all of one's money for charitable causes that you think are more deserving.
Dan | 12:50 p.m. March 29, 2008
I just don't understand why Mormons make such a big deal about the heads of
their organizations. Even in these comments it is obvious that they have
celebrity status, and are regarded as super-men of some kind - like they are
better, more righteous, or more important than everyone else in the Church.
And then some of you claim that it is not the men but their office that you respect and revere. I don't see a difference. That is still a huge inequality. You don't stand when a Bishop walks in the room, but you do when an Apostle does. Why? Elder Packer said they are no better than anyone else. So why do you all treat them as if they are? If you really followed Packer's teachings, the fact that a man named Thomas Monson attended a Jazz game would not even be news. Did they write a story that Joe Scmoe member attended the Jazz game? No. Why not? Because the Mormon people do NOT truly believe what Elder Packer said. Remarkable, isn't it?
And then some of you claim that it is not the men but their office that you respect and revere. I don't see a difference. That is still a huge inequality. You don't stand when a Bishop walks in the room, but you do when an Apostle does. Why? Elder Packer said they are no better than anyone else. So why do you all treat them as if they are? If you really followed Packer's teachings, the fact that a man named Thomas Monson attended a Jazz game would not even be news. Did they write a story that Joe Scmoe member attended the Jazz game? No. Why not? Because the Mormon people do NOT truly believe what Elder Packer said. Remarkable, isn't it?
k | 12:54 p.m. March 29, 2008
Before you all freak out, this is not meant to bash the LDS faith in ANY way.
I just really don't feel this isn't a newsworthy story. I didn't even take the time to read the whole thing. Are they also going to report when President Monson goes out to dinner? Or report on any other time he is spotted in public? It goes the other way too. I really wouldn't care if a Jazz player was spotted at the symphony, a club, at Temple Square or wherever. It's just not news. Reporting on Pres. Monson's every move is a little tabloid-like.
I just really don't feel this isn't a newsworthy story. I didn't even take the time to read the whole thing. Are they also going to report when President Monson goes out to dinner? Or report on any other time he is spotted in public? It goes the other way too. I really wouldn't care if a Jazz player was spotted at the symphony, a club, at Temple Square or wherever. It's just not news. Reporting on Pres. Monson's every move is a little tabloid-like.
Be Honest Bug | 1:01 p.m. March 29, 2008
Bug, I am a member who has done a lot of research from a lot of sources. It is a
fact that many LDS resources do not provide all of the facts - some in fact
blantantly omit much of it. I'm not saying that is wrong as the mission of
the Church is to convert not be a perfect historical resource. And every
resource that does provide more of the historical information is not anti.
It's OK that we are taught from a certain perspective growing up in the
Church or as investigators. We may believe the Church contains the fullness of
the Gospel - but that does not necessarily mean that Church resources contain
the fullness of historical information. And that's OK - let's just not
get so defensive and claim otherwise.
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