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Bob G | 3:37 a.m. March 29, 2008
Views on sex in america are archiac and repressive. Parents and education are
forbidden to give the children any sex educatuion so it has been left up to
their own curiosity and experimentaion to get a sex education, often times with
tragic results in preganancy, drugs, and suicides. Pornography with sex should
be considered a service to parents and educators alike to properly give young
adults in puberty the information they crave but don't understand. A parent
should be allowed to show visual as well as oral information to their children
without being persecuted and jailed trying to give their children some kind of
sex education and real world information without the young having to resort to
experimentation and exploitation by others. Adults have grown to fruition with
the stigma that normal sex is negative in human behavior. Sex and cohabitaion
should be scorned as it is unhealthy in mind, body, relationships and family
unity. Pictures and photos of naked human bodies should be used more positive as
a tool for sex education for those in puberty and adulthood. Homosexuals can
openly display their abnormal human behavior but its a crime to tell the truth
about sex.
Mahonri | 7:22 a.m. March 29, 2008
Healthy porn, now that makes sense. The sexual urge and response is a biological
process and can be used and abused both. Education about it is to be applauded
and information on the biology as well as the stimulating aspects is good.
Understanding this can help a lot of severely repressed people to relax a lot
more and assuage the guilt over feeling good.
The "Christian" killer | 7:30 a.m. March 29, 2008
Here in Colorado, we have had a "Christian killer", Michael Murray,
who had thousands of pornographic images on his computer. Pornography
dehumanizes people to the extent that society is threatened. It is hard to
value the sole of an individual when only base instincts invade the mind.
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ex offender | 8:19 a.m. March 29, 2008
Porn was my downfall. It was instrumental in my seeing women and girls as
objects and not as persons. I had been raised by very controlling, and in
today's world, abusive parents so when I was able to get on my own I wanted
to control.
Porn was visually stimulating and allowed fantasies that began to be more important than everyday life, almost like a drug. If I felt bad for whatever reason I could find relief in porn. Later I was able to transfer that to abuse of others.
I was controlling and abusive to all around me. Luckily, I was found out and through therapy I was able to make changes in my life. Where once I was in self-destructive mode and taking others with me, now I am no longer that way. Porn is a self-defeating behavior, IMO.
Porn was visually stimulating and allowed fantasies that began to be more important than everyday life, almost like a drug. If I felt bad for whatever reason I could find relief in porn. Later I was able to transfer that to abuse of others.
I was controlling and abusive to all around me. Luckily, I was found out and through therapy I was able to make changes in my life. Where once I was in self-destructive mode and taking others with me, now I am no longer that way. Porn is a self-defeating behavior, IMO.
Perplexed | 8:17 a.m. March 29, 2008
Whats the point? Who is trying to kid who? Get this crap out of here. SICKOS!
porn actor | 9:29 a.m. March 29, 2008
I like the term porn actor rather than porn star. If you have never heard of
the person they aren't a start in my opinion, just an actor. My coworker
is a part time actor but I wouldn't call him a star.
Anonymous | 9:58 a.m. March 29, 2008
Porn doesn't seem to be as much of a problem in Europe where it is more in
your face. While at the airport I saw a row of magazines. Disney, Disney, not
Disney!! I laughed at the juxtaposition but it reminded me of how different
Utah is.
The real reason I think porn is a lesser issue in Europe is they have a different attitude about sex--it is taught in a healthy way at an appropriate age by adults to teenagers. I don't feel that should be the realm of teachers but done in the home. But it isn't happening as evidenced by our teen pregnancy rates. It is almost like people believe forbidding sex means kids will listen. We really should be more honest and open about these issues.
While I saw porn in Europe everywhere, I am glad I don't here. Maybe it would have been okay if I was sensitized to it, but I wasn't so I always get a bit shocked by it.
The real reason I think porn is a lesser issue in Europe is they have a different attitude about sex--it is taught in a healthy way at an appropriate age by adults to teenagers. I don't feel that should be the realm of teachers but done in the home. But it isn't happening as evidenced by our teen pregnancy rates. It is almost like people believe forbidding sex means kids will listen. We really should be more honest and open about these issues.
While I saw porn in Europe everywhere, I am glad I don't here. Maybe it would have been okay if I was sensitized to it, but I wasn't so I always get a bit shocked by it.
Religion Contributes to the Prob | 10:14 a.m. March 29, 2008
If we are going to look at causes of what bring unhealth sexual attitudes lets
also look at how religion contributes to this.
Religions for some reason take it upon themselves to make very strict secual rules, forgetting that one size seldom fits all.
Mormons are taught that it is preferable to die rather than commit sexual sin. The fact that one uses protection doesn't matter, it is the act itself. If one has a wife in a vegatative state, there can still be no exception to this rule.
Catholics forbid married couples to use contraception at all, consequently, where only one believes there is friction in the marriage, where both believe there is either a less than full life or there is un-necessary guilt.
Moslems believe women must cover their head and whole body their entire life and must never go out of the house unless they are accompanies by their husband or male relative. In Saudia Arabia little girls were pushed back into a school to die because in their haste to get out they tried to leave without their head coverings.
All these rules specifically degrade the quality of life and in general pervert health sex attitudes.
Religions for some reason take it upon themselves to make very strict secual rules, forgetting that one size seldom fits all.
Mormons are taught that it is preferable to die rather than commit sexual sin. The fact that one uses protection doesn't matter, it is the act itself. If one has a wife in a vegatative state, there can still be no exception to this rule.
Catholics forbid married couples to use contraception at all, consequently, where only one believes there is friction in the marriage, where both believe there is either a less than full life or there is un-necessary guilt.
Moslems believe women must cover their head and whole body their entire life and must never go out of the house unless they are accompanies by their husband or male relative. In Saudia Arabia little girls were pushed back into a school to die because in their haste to get out they tried to leave without their head coverings.
All these rules specifically degrade the quality of life and in general pervert health sex attitudes.
All Porn not in Same Basket | 10:23 a.m. March 29, 2008
While I would agree that twisted hard core porn can be damaging to a healthy
sexual outlook, people take this too far.
In Utah many people believe that the nude figure in art, such as is common in churches in Europe is immoral. For someone to believe this shows they already have been twisted, probably not by porn but by false doctrines taught by several religions which can also help to damage a healthy sexual outlook.
All porn does not fit in the same basket. What is refered to as soft core porn, merely showing the female form is not un-healthy and serves a purpose to portray beauty.
In Utah many people believe that the nude figure in art, such as is common in churches in Europe is immoral. For someone to believe this shows they already have been twisted, probably not by porn but by false doctrines taught by several religions which can also help to damage a healthy sexual outlook.
All porn does not fit in the same basket. What is refered to as soft core porn, merely showing the female form is not un-healthy and serves a purpose to portray beauty.
re ex offender | 8:19 a.m. | 10:31 a.m. March 29, 2008
Yes porn can be a self defeating behavior as can drinking alcohol if one
doesn't do it responsibly or gun ownership or driving.
Each of these adult activities have their place in adding to the quality of life or they can be destructive. Its your choice how you handle it.
Each of these adult activities have their place in adding to the quality of life or they can be destructive. Its your choice how you handle it.
don't be fooled | 10:39 a.m. March 29, 2008
Porn is always harmful to anyone and everyone it touches (including and
especially the present or future family members of the porn consumer), the only
question is how much harm.
It gives a distorted view of sex and relationships that make healthy interactions difficult or impossible.
That it is powerfully addictive as well makes it worse.
Society is doing miserable job protecting children from exposure to porn.
It gives a distorted view of sex and relationships that make healthy interactions difficult or impossible.
That it is powerfully addictive as well makes it worse.
Society is doing miserable job protecting children from exposure to porn.
jim b. cedar city | 10:46 a.m. March 29, 2008
Porn is a drug. It effects the same part of the brain as hard core drugs.
Thus, you become addicted and want more and more to keep up with those cravings.
It is all around us. Inviting and enticing 24/7. We are all at risk and need
to keep our guard up at all times. I know there are those who would not agree
with this. But that's their problem. I've seen first hand what it
does to families and loved ones. It is ugly, dark and uncaring, like a wild
animal tracking down it's prey. That prey is you, me, family, friends and
the whole world.
re don't be fooled | 10:39 a.m. | 10:56 a.m. March 29, 2008
I'd be curious to see a study on who has healthier sexual attitudes.
People who abstain from porn but grow up in sexually repressed societies, due to religious influence.
Or people who grow up in a secular society where porn is not thought of as any big deal.
No doubt each would have their own set of sexual problems, but I'd still be interested to see which is more damaging.
People who abstain from porn but grow up in sexually repressed societies, due to religious influence.
Or people who grow up in a secular society where porn is not thought of as any big deal.
No doubt each would have their own set of sexual problems, but I'd still be interested to see which is more damaging.
ex | 11:40 a.m. March 29, 2008
Porn is an illusion. Men see the women that pose as actually being open to them
and accepting them, when in reality there is no real acceptance or love. The
girl posing doesn't love the man looking, except as her own emotional need
is craving attention.
Further, I can attest that porn deadens the heart, and clouds judgment about others.
I also learned that it is impossible to both love someone and look upon her as an object that exists only to satisfy a physical urge. Love is outwardly focused. Pure sexual love (a very real and God-give joy) is outwardly focused on the other partner's feelings and satisfaction. Corrupted sexual love is inwardly focused on one's own desires - it is not giving, it is consuming.
Further, I can attest that porn deadens the heart, and clouds judgment about others.
I also learned that it is impossible to both love someone and look upon her as an object that exists only to satisfy a physical urge. Love is outwardly focused. Pure sexual love (a very real and God-give joy) is outwardly focused on the other partner's feelings and satisfaction. Corrupted sexual love is inwardly focused on one's own desires - it is not giving, it is consuming.
Dr. B | 11:42 a.m. March 29, 2008
As a doctoral level counselor, I have seen pornography destroy families in a way
that I've never seen before. It makes alcohol look like orange juice.
Pornography is especially atrocious because it has the capacity to never leave
the mind in a way that alcohol leaves the body. I have worked with people who
still remember images they saw three decades ago. I fully agree that having a
healthy sexual relationship is an essential part of long-term adult
relationships. I also agree that many religions have marginalized its
importance. However, pornography portrays sexual partners and behaviors in a way
that an individual is never going to experience. The drive to experience sex in
these unobtainable ways leads to dissatisfaction with one's partner and is
often the downfall of their relationship. The only people I have ever known to
have not had problems due to pornographic material are couples who watch
pornography together or who allow their spouses to have multiple sexual
partners. I am not sure that that meets anybody's standards of family
values.
ABSTAIN I SAY! | 12:03 p.m. March 29, 2008
DON'T TALK ABOUT IT...DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!
FaithNoMo | 12:10 p.m. March 29, 2008
In the last 25 years as porn has become more available, rape has gone down 80%.
Just because Gordon Hinckley kept touted it was more addictive than drugs got
every so scared. It should be discussed between the couple. If one has a
problem, leave it alone. If not, and you're an adult, you decide.
I get sick of offenders blaming porn. Take some responsibilities guys. If Porn is addictive, and as widely used as reported, it's either not as harmful as they say, or it's not the problem they say. Where are all of these murderers and rapists if nearly everyone has seen porn? It can't be both.
I get sick of offenders blaming porn. Take some responsibilities guys. If Porn is addictive, and as widely used as reported, it's either not as harmful as they say, or it's not the problem they say. Where are all of these murderers and rapists if nearly everyone has seen porn? It can't be both.
re Dr. B | 11:42 a.m. | 12:28 p.m. March 29, 2008
Can you tell me (all of us) which is more damaging in having sexual attitude.
To live in Europe or Japan where porn is no big deal, or to grow up,
1. Mormon
2. Baptist
3. Catholic
4. Moslem
I really would like to know.
To live in Europe or Japan where porn is no big deal, or to grow up,
1. Mormon
2. Baptist
3. Catholic
4. Moslem
I really would like to know.
Porn is Prostitution | 2:03 p.m. March 29, 2008
Porno starts are nothing but paid prostitutes that allow people to view them.
Porn does nothing good for society. It trivializes and cheapens love/sex. Those
who argue elsewise either are brainwashed or can't find someone provide
them with a loving relationship.
Melvin Wilkinson PhD | 2:13 p.m. March 29, 2008
Studies show that religious people in general have more satisfying sex lives
because they view sex in the context of meaning and commitment. Pornography is
the antithesis of this. It views sex in the context of exploitation, and
objectification. One of the reasons that pornography is addicting is because it
never satisfies. You want more and more, but what you get does not satisfy, so
you go to more and more extreme forms. You can never get enough of what you
don't really need.
Porn causes many problems | 2:54 p.m. March 29, 2008
My daughter has exposed her 3 daughters to porn from an early age. Readily
available in the bathroom magazine rack were copies of Playboy, Playgirl and
others, hardly appropriate materials for young girls. My granddaughters have
grown up with too much early knowledge of inappropriate sexual activities. 18
months ago, one granddaughter accused grandpa of inappropriate touching, and
other things that a normal 11-year-old would not even know the words to
describe, but she does, since she's seen and heard them from an early age.
Her older sister starting having sex at about 13 or 14, and the granddaughter
who made the accusation is sexually active at the age of 12. My husband spent 6
months in jail because of this, but there was no way to explain all of this to
the judge, or a jury, because my husband's attorney recommended accepting
the plea bargain to avoid spending 20 years in jail. I know that part of the
problems she is still facing have to do with early exposure to porn, and
observation of her mother's sexual activities with friends. The abuse began
there, not with grandpa, who did nothing inappropriate at all. Our lives are
permanently changed.
To anonymous | 3:14 p.m. March 29, 2008
What you are saying about porn in Europe is ridiculous. I grew up in Europe and
the fact that porn is available everywhere does not show that people have
healthier attitudes about sex. In fact, I could say that the availability of
porn has made it difficult for many young men to build a healthy stable
relationship. There are so many who just grow up addicted and can't get
out of it. Look at the figures and compare how many stable healthy
relationships you will find in Utah and how many in Europe! There is nothing
good that comes from porn
Anonymous | 4:11 p.m. March 29, 2008
ehhhhhh whatever, but Utah still leads the country in googling porn, go figure
right?
frenchie | 4:53 p.m. March 29, 2008
I studied abroad in southern France and lived in northern France for multiple
years. During this time I met people who were addicted to porn and people who
let porn ruin their marriages. Location and accessibility have little to do with
it.
I think that people commenting are using the word "healthy" too loosely and I would agree with both of the men in the debate who stated that sexual attitudes need to be taught young. I do not think this means repression, just discussion. I grew up with parents who regularly discussed sex with us. It helped me want to say chaste and not the other way around.
I think that people commenting are using the word "healthy" too loosely and I would agree with both of the men in the debate who stated that sexual attitudes need to be taught young. I do not think this means repression, just discussion. I grew up with parents who regularly discussed sex with us. It helped me want to say chaste and not the other way around.
2for1 | 5:01 p.m. March 29, 2008
Bob G: Exactly what planet are you from? Do you watch TV, do you go to the
movies? If they're not filled with violence, they're certainly filled
with sex. Our children are growing up with an overdose of sex, sex, sex. More
and more, women are viewed as disposable sexual objects, and the sad thing is
they're doing it to themselves. "Women's Lib" was meant to
be a positive, but instead the pleasure seeking youth of today have made it a
destructive thing. They can't seem to set any kinds of limits on their
behavior. Men, young and old, view sex on the internet on a daily basis and
think it's ok to engage in the activities related to that type of viewing.
The images are becoming more and more graphic and lewd, but a lot of people seem
to think it's all healthy fun...."recreational sex." Like Rome,
we're rotting from inside. I've got news for you, pornography and
functional family life are incompatible. Pornography is an addiction, just like
any drug. Don't believe me? Try going a week, a month without your daily
fix of pornographic sexual stimulation. Healthy pass-time, NOT.
Roger Brown | 5:05 p.m. March 29, 2008
Pornography desensitizes all of us. You can't not be affected by it.
Check out the MoralityInMedia and the ObscenityCrimes websites to report any obscene emails that you receive.
It's better to focus on all the good and all that is truly beautiful but we have to fight off the bad too.
Big credit goes to all those individuals and organizations who help fight it such as LightedCandle who tries to save young girls from entering the business. They recently were successful in shutting down a pornographic audition in Salt Lake City since it would have violated Utah's pandering laws.
Adults are free to do whatever they want but the negative effects of pornography are real and dangerous. Even if someone views pornography and never hurts anybody then they are still going to be hurting those around them via their diminished capacity to give true love. Pornography snuffs out true love.
Those that justify pornography don't know how good a sex life in marriage can really be. Happily married couples who never use pornography absolutely have the best sex!
Again, check out MoralityInMedia for scientific evidence and ObscenityCrimes for help in reporting obscenity to law enforcement.
Thanks,
Roger Brown
Chairman, ProvoCitizens
Check out the MoralityInMedia and the ObscenityCrimes websites to report any obscene emails that you receive.
It's better to focus on all the good and all that is truly beautiful but we have to fight off the bad too.
Big credit goes to all those individuals and organizations who help fight it such as LightedCandle who tries to save young girls from entering the business. They recently were successful in shutting down a pornographic audition in Salt Lake City since it would have violated Utah's pandering laws.
Adults are free to do whatever they want but the negative effects of pornography are real and dangerous. Even if someone views pornography and never hurts anybody then they are still going to be hurting those around them via their diminished capacity to give true love. Pornography snuffs out true love.
Those that justify pornography don't know how good a sex life in marriage can really be. Happily married couples who never use pornography absolutely have the best sex!
Again, check out MoralityInMedia for scientific evidence and ObscenityCrimes for help in reporting obscenity to law enforcement.
Thanks,
Roger Brown
Chairman, ProvoCitizens
Re: Anonymous | 6:21 p.m. March 29, 2008
Well anonymous, if Utah leads the country in googling porn, maybe you should
slow down so it goes down by half.
Who's watching your | 6:32 p.m. March 29, 2008
children they are bombarded and disensitized by the media...descriptions lower
the value of your daughters. Provo has so many rapes as according to police
detective interview. But this is Utah by golly and we got control by golly!
Dr. B | 8:07 p.m. March 29, 2008
Europe and Japan only have "no problem" with female nudity. That is
more of a reflection of a male controlled media than anything. There is also a
huge difference between having pornography all around you and searching after it
on your own for sexual stimulation. What does hold true is that people who have
not viewed nudity can become sexually aroused by it. Once nudity has lost its
intensity the person moves to more hardcore forms of pornography. The last stop
on the "desensitization train" is often "torture porn", a
genre that combines the raping and dismembering of women.
As for the faith portion of the question, that has little to do with faith and more to do with being human. When you repeatedly tell someone not to do something, they are more likely to do it. This was seen with the DARE, drug abuse resistance education, program. When authority figures told kids not to use drugs, kids started searching drugs out.
If you want your faithful to remain faithful, don't tell them not to do have sex. Focus on the outcomes of those who do, std's, pregnancy, and they will make choices based on information and not fear.
As for the faith portion of the question, that has little to do with faith and more to do with being human. When you repeatedly tell someone not to do something, they are more likely to do it. This was seen with the DARE, drug abuse resistance education, program. When authority figures told kids not to use drugs, kids started searching drugs out.
If you want your faithful to remain faithful, don't tell them not to do have sex. Focus on the outcomes of those who do, std's, pregnancy, and they will make choices based on information and not fear.
Dear Dr. B | 8:27 p.m. March 29, 2008
Your "report" on porn and torture porn has some serious flaws, mainly
because you don't know what you are talking about. "Torture Porn"
was a term first made by a movie critic David Edelstein very recently about
overly violent horror movies like "Hostel". You imply that
"torture porn" are films of real acts like that. Nope. Use Google for
the term if you like. Yucky movies I agree, but not real torture.
Next, if everybody who watched regular old porn (it's an $8 BILLION annual grosser in the U.S.) "graduated" to harder stuff, our streets wouldn't be safe from all the rapists and torturers that walked them. The "graduation to harder stuff" might be true in rare cases, it is anecdotally true, but as a big trend it is completely false. Ridiculously false and impossible. It would literally be unsafe to leave your house and Playboy wouldn't have any customers.
Next, if everybody who watched regular old porn (it's an $8 BILLION annual grosser in the U.S.) "graduated" to harder stuff, our streets wouldn't be safe from all the rapists and torturers that walked them. The "graduation to harder stuff" might be true in rare cases, it is anecdotally true, but as a big trend it is completely false. Ridiculously false and impossible. It would literally be unsafe to leave your house and Playboy wouldn't have any customers.
Roy Wilkinson | 9:21 p.m. March 29, 2008
Re: Faith No Mo: You claim that rape has gone down 80 percent in the last 25
years. Here are the nation-wide figures for forcible rape:
1981 82,500
2006 92,455 This is an increase of about 12 percent.
1960 before pornography was widely available
17,190. So there has been a 500 percent increase since 1960.
Also only an amateur would google "breasts" to find porn. The addicts know where to find it.
1981 82,500
2006 92,455 This is an increase of about 12 percent.
1960 before pornography was widely available
17,190. So there has been a 500 percent increase since 1960.
Also only an amateur would google "breasts" to find porn. The addicts know where to find it.
Yo Roy Williams | 9:30 p.m. March 29, 2008
Your stats prove little or actually help the case that porn isn't causing
rapes. Check the population statistics between 1960 and 2007. Also remember that
rapes in the 1960s were less-reported because of social pressures on women. It
was easier to be the silent victim then.
Finally, and I know the fixed-in-their-thinking-crowd is going to struggle with decades of research and study, but rape is about CONTROL, not about sexual satisfaction. Rape is a crime of violence, not a crime of lust.
Finally, and I know the fixed-in-their-thinking-crowd is going to struggle with decades of research and study, but rape is about CONTROL, not about sexual satisfaction. Rape is a crime of violence, not a crime of lust.
a wife | 10:13 p.m. March 29, 2008
I think educational sex videos could be helpful to a marriage, but few husbands
would have the control to not let it go further. Also, I believe that sometimes
those who show the most disgust for pornography are the ones using it or
dreaming about it, EXCLUDING LDS General Authorities. They only warn out of
love, not fear.
Roy Wilkinson | 11:28 p.m. March 29, 2008
Come on, the population has not increased 500 percent since 1960, but rape has.
Yes rape is a crime of violence expressed through sexuality. They don't
just beat somebody up, they rape them. Where do they learn that sex is about
control, and dominance? There is certainly a lot (not all) of pornography with
that as a theme. If they believed that sex was about love, unselfishness,
giving, and commitment, would they ever rape someone. Is there any pornography
that teaches that? I doubt it. And even if rape was not increasing because of
pornography, there are still the millions of failed marriages because the
husband would rather watch his videos and pictures than to relate to his
heartbroken wife. That is the real tragedy.
RE: Mr. R. Williams | 1:54 a.m. March 30, 2008
Hi - I am not saying Porn is good at all or that it doesn't ruin marriages.
I just don't think there is much evidence at all that porn is causing
rapes. It might be or it might not be. The breakdown of the family (admittedly
porn might contribute to that) and numerous factors (including increased
reporting of the rape that always existed) are just as much a factor.
In other words, I am not saying porn is without harm, I just don't think we should be blaming everything on it. If porn turned users into rapists, there would be rapists on every corner.
In other words, I am not saying porn is without harm, I just don't think we should be blaming everything on it. If porn turned users into rapists, there would be rapists on every corner.
My2CentsWorth | 7:07 a.m. March 30, 2008
The porn industry saying it promotes a healthy attitude towards sex is like the
tobacco industry trying to say they are in favor of breathing clean air.
humangps | 7:12 a.m. March 30, 2008
Anyone how has spent considerable time in Japan knows that most Japanese
marriages are not "healthy relationships". Japanese men are generally
married to their jobs and the culture that goes along with it. Women who are
married usually find healthy relationships with their children and female
friends. Currently 1/3 of Japanese women in their 30's are not married and
do not plan to marry largely because women do not view marriage Japan as
"healthy". Birth rates have dropped to the point where Japan is now
shrinking rather rapidly.
It is little wonder that porn (primarily of interest to males) can be commonplace in Japan. To suggest that all is well and healthy in relationships in Japan with porn always present demonstrates very little knowledge of Japanese family life. Comparing the situation with the USA or Utah is ridiculous.
It is little wonder that porn (primarily of interest to males) can be commonplace in Japan. To suggest that all is well and healthy in relationships in Japan with porn always present demonstrates very little knowledge of Japanese family life. Comparing the situation with the USA or Utah is ridiculous.
Will | 9:44 a.m. March 30, 2008
Good sex pleasure and enriches the spirit and not just the body.
I agree that teaching children not to have sex as if it is bad will only make them more curious about it. Teaching children about how beautiful sex can be within a committed marriage and what sex can symbolize between two spouses and what the risks are of doing it outside of marriage will let them make more informed choice of their own.
I don't know anything else that teaches a healthier view and purpose of sex than LDS theology. To put it bluntly...Eternal marriage + resurrection + charity + perfected bodies = perfect and eternal sex. Those who abuse and cheapen the sacred nature of sex and indulge in their lustful appetites for porn and sex will not be worthy or able to satisfy those desires after this life.
Porn may not lead all of its viewer to crimes of rape, etc, but I believe it still dilutes the deep joy, love, and affection that can be had with truly sacred and meaningful sex that can be enjoyed in a committed and faithful marriage.
I agree that teaching children not to have sex as if it is bad will only make them more curious about it. Teaching children about how beautiful sex can be within a committed marriage and what sex can symbolize between two spouses and what the risks are of doing it outside of marriage will let them make more informed choice of their own.
I don't know anything else that teaches a healthier view and purpose of sex than LDS theology. To put it bluntly...Eternal marriage + resurrection + charity + perfected bodies = perfect and eternal sex. Those who abuse and cheapen the sacred nature of sex and indulge in their lustful appetites for porn and sex will not be worthy or able to satisfy those desires after this life.
Porn may not lead all of its viewer to crimes of rape, etc, but I believe it still dilutes the deep joy, love, and affection that can be had with truly sacred and meaningful sex that can be enjoyed in a committed and faithful marriage.
Dr. B | 2:11 p.m. March 31, 2008
I would like to thank my criticizer as he/she just proves my point. I fully
understand where the term torture porn comes from. Movie studies were losing
money on horror films after 9/11 as our society watched real violence on the
television. What turned that portion of the movie industry around was young
naked women as the recipients of violence. Most people were not desensitized to
this combination of nudity and violence and these films did well at the box
office. Torture doesn't have to be real just as the simulated sex of most
Hollywood and softcore films isn't really sex. It was just and example of
how we can be desensitized to sex and then have to combine sex with something
else to receive the same stimulation as before. Unfortunately some people, very
few, move beyond simulated sex and violence to the real thing.
Damage to the family and to relationships begins the first time one of the partners feels sexually inadequate. That can even come from images of swimsuit models. However, unlike desensitization the level of damage in not recorded by the level of perversion, but the negative emotional damage to the relationship. I hope this clarifies things.
Damage to the family and to relationships begins the first time one of the partners feels sexually inadequate. That can even come from images of swimsuit models. However, unlike desensitization the level of damage in not recorded by the level of perversion, but the negative emotional damage to the relationship. I hope this clarifies things.
Former Victim | 3:26 p.m. April 17, 2008
My Ex-husband was addicted to pornography. It got so bad that he was basically
on the computer 24/7. He became sexually abusive to me and made me think it was
my fault. I woke up when two of my daughters came to me saying they had read
over their father's shoulder when he was in a gay chat room. That was when
the ton of bricks came down. I thought to myself, "Who am I protecting, my
husband or my children?" That was when we packed up and moved out. He
asked me what he could do to get us back together. I told him to confess his
sins to his spiritual leader and to get some help. He told me, "I
don't have to confess! I am not addicted!" Pornography ruined my 25
year marriage. My ex-husband (who is 54 years old) is now living with and
sharing the same bed with a 22 year old male. My children don't like to go
see him for any period of time longer than a couple of hours. All I can say is
I am glad I am, now, on the outside of the box, looking in.
blah | 4:08 p.m. April 17, 2008
In the same way that violent movies and video games effect people differently so
does the porn industry. You can't say that playing halo and watching more
mature themed sitcoms and movies turns people into murdering, reality-blurred
citizens.Individual people differ so much from one another that only broad
generalizations can be made when talking about how people are effected by
experiences. I myself have watched porn since the 10th grade and am in a 4 year
relationship with a wonderful, beautiful, sexually open and fulfilling woman. At
the same time I have a life long friend who grew up in a LDS family and because
he wasn't educated his curiosity made him start to watch porn in the eighth
grade. He has now gone through 7 relationships. Everybody is talking about the
extreme ends of this spectrum of porn and its affect. Just how porn hasn't
affected my ability to function in a meaningful relationship it could be exactly
opposite for another person. I think that above all parents need to explain to
their kids how to be sexually responsible and educated.Also, RE:a wife, your
last two sentences just contradicted your entire statement.
miss m | 11:32 p.m. April 19, 2008
First of all Porn is addictive. When you have sex with another person there is a
chemical bond that is created. That is why porn is so addictive. The viewer is
bonding with pictures. Where this causes problems is the original picture is no
longer cutting it. You do need to give the porn industry some credit. They are
amazing advertisers. They know how the mind works...our brain used associative
tags. The original picture is a girl in a seductive pose still wearing clothing
standing next to a red car. Not a school, church, or next to a
family�nothing to remind you of your values. But the next
time you see a red car that image of the woman comes back to your mind and the
feeling you got looking at her. So you go looking for more. This is where soft
core porn starts leading to harder and harder core porn. The pictures even go as
far a mutilation because the chemical reactions happening in the body need more.
Until finally we are seeing police men, teachers, and honorable people in our
community molesting small children, are raping women, and so much more. This all
happens with baby steps.
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