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Utahns getting over Mitt

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Anonymous | 3:19 p.m. March 22, 2008
What a lame story! I'm not over Mitt and neither are any of my family or friends. Unfortunately, we've been forced to hold our noses and vote for someone we don't necessary like.
kanaka818 | 3:30 p.m. March 22, 2008
John McCain: Please, please, please choose Mitt Romney as your running mate. He will provide the economic and management experience you lack. Being a POW doesn't make you a war hero, much less, qualified to be Commander in Chief.

As for Romney and his sons having not served in the military: The last I read we have an all volunteer military. I don't see any protesters or draft dodgers in that family. After some quick research, it appears that only about 25% of the males, over 18, in the U.S., are military veterans. That means 75% have had no military service. Are 3/4 of the men in this country bad people?

P.S. I am a veteran.
NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT! | 3:37 p.m. March 22, 2008
Over Mitt? Not at all!!!! Some of you don't like him and give innacurrate reasons for it... record etc. In truth, his record is good. I have written CPAC, the RNC, and the McCain campaign and expressed the desire to have Mitt as McCain's running mate. If that does NOT happen, the get no money from me and absolutely NO support. And I am serious.

If he does not choose Romney, then I will have to write him in in November.

It is an odd idea to me that someone would support Romney but write in Ron Paul in November???? Don't quite get that... If you were for Romney then, write him in in November....
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Sean | 3:50 p.m. March 22, 2008
Anonymous:

You are not "forced" to vote for anyone you don't like. You "choose" to vote for someone you don't like because you "fear" looking at 3rd Party candidates. You "fear" casting a vote for long-term gains rather than immediate gratification....
Robert | 3:54 p.m. March 22, 2008
Obama showed tremendous respect to the church when he canceled his rally so as not to create a spectacle during Hinckley's funeral. He also called to give his condolences directly to church leaders.

McCain, on the other hand, showed nothing but disrespect during the campaign.

That alone says a lot about the character of these two men.
sosueme | 4:33 p.m. March 22, 2008
dear Robert, Believe me when I tell you one of obama's staff told him it would be good for votes to call in his condolences when someone is campaging they don't even know where they are most of the time. I would bet on that. He is probably a nice person and all but his convictions leave a little to much room for mistakes for me. Ron Paul has stood the test of time and folks he is a republican. Why do you think the media blackout is for? Someone is very threatened by mr. Paul. Why not open your eyes most of you don't like where your party has gone lately, Mr paul has been elected by republicans in his state for 23 years. Why? because he has stood up for his convictions against all of the swindlers and scum. He stands by the paper this country was built on and he stands for all of the american people not the corporations. Lets really upset the election use paper votes and vote for ron paul for us. for the people this country belongs to.
Brent from Oregon | 5:29 p.m. March 22, 2008
I, a faithful Mormon like many of the rest of you, will not be getting over Mitt because I was never for him to begin with. You Mitt-heads need to ask yourselves: would you be supporting this man so enthusiastically if he weren't Mormon? I thought not. Yes, he's a successful businessman, but that doesn't always translate into success at politics. His one term as Mass. governor - yes, just one term - left much to be desired. Also, he would not have been reelected if he tried. And there's no evidence to suggest he's any more or less honest than the next politician (and the pro-Mitt crowd seriously overlooks his numerous flip flops, while they were all over John Kerry the last time around for flip flopping once or twice).

At any rate, John McCain was more qualified all along to be Commander in Chief. He gets my vote in a battle with Mitt anyday.
Former Republican | 5:35 p.m. March 22, 2008
I have got to say, I am a strong and active Mormon (not afraid to say it), living in Illinois. I am absolutely aghast that any member of the Church would even consider voting for McCain! I live right on the boarder with Iowa, and the dirty Anti-Mormon tricks that McCain and Huckabee both played were atrocious. I saw and suffered through them first hand. How people could possibly vote for someone who despises and ridicules their religion is beyond me.

For those willing to listen, Obama has been my Senator for a while now. I didn't vote for him, but being able to watch him closely for the past few years, and see how he responds not only to some of my nasty emails, but also personally made a call of condolence to Pres. Monson when Pres. Hinckley died, I have not only grown to respect him, but I actually trust him. That's something I never expected to do after Reagan.

Vote Obama, Utah. Vote Obama, all you Mormons. He's the only one who actually gives a damn!
Reality | 5:55 p.m. March 22, 2008
McCain is old school, we need new fresh inspired leadership that can bring us together with the rest of the free world. America's heavy handed military approach will not work effectively in todays political/economical world. We need to united with our allies in political and development stratagies. We have to take a second look at our Isreal policy it is the center of our middle east policy that will determine our long term future. A two state policy is not going to work, especially when one of the states is the only religious based national government in the world. Think and vote, good luck to America.
Rick | 6:19 p.m. March 22, 2008
Utah was deceived enough to vote for that idiot W twice. So much for discernment! Until the voters are smart enough to use their own brains and quit acting as sheep who are cognitively impaired over a candidate's party affiliation, the majority will help to continue screwing up our state and country. We need a healthy two party system to keep each party honest, because governments become dysfunctional when one party is in power for too long. Just look to the old Soviet Union or Cuba for proof. I'm sure I'll be roundly criticized for suggesting all of this, but we should look at each candidate as an individual and vote accordingly. I was a staunch for Mitt as anyone, but now will probably vote for Obama.
Dear Truth-Sayer | 6:49 p.m. March 22, 2008
Thanks for the laugh. Every sentence you wrote is fiction. You just don't get it and never will so I won't even try to explain it to you.

Get over your LDS fetish.

To all of you who lament the fact that Republicans vote for Republicans, how often have you NOT voted for a Democrat? I'm sure it's often right?

Please spare us the righteous indignation if we Republicans actually vote for someone from out party. People belong to a party for a reason. Don't you?

And please don't tell me you are an independent. that's just the cowards way of not being strong enough in your principles to stand and be counted.
Mark B | 7:36 p.m. March 22, 2008
I'm not an independent, but I wouldn't refer to them as "cowards". Once the primaries are finished, the "I" votes count just as much as the others. As for Republicans, the amazing part is that they don't seem to notice that the Party no longer seems to stand for anything - with the possible exception of American flag lapel pins.
Mitt Romney | 8:14 p.m. March 22, 2008
People are not over Mitt. It's just that since he is not in the race, they have no choice but to be over Mitt.
Fooled | 8:19 p.m. March 22, 2008
Utah voted with the highest percentage for Bush twice, and we can all now see how far that went toward destroying the Constitution, our freedoms, our reputation around the world, and just about everything else. I thought us members were supposed to be saving the Constitution when it hangs by a thread (as it now does after Bush's reign), not abetting in its destruction. Boy, are Utahns gullible or what, to be duped again by McCain. Fool Utahns once, voting for Bush, shame on Bush; fool Utahns twice, voting for McCain, shame on Utahns.
To Brent from Oregon | 9:38 p.m. March 22, 2008
Hey Brent, yes many of us would be voting for Mitt if he wasn't Mormon. for you to arrogantly say otherwise is foolish. Just like you thinking McCain is more qualified to be Commander in Chief. Outside of being a Senator forever, what has McCain done? Successful business? nope. Successful marriage? nope. Successful governor, mayor, etc? nope. Just a lifelong politician.

Sorry, since McCain is unfortunately my senator, I can tell you that he is completely unqualified to be Commander in Chief. You, and the many who think like you, have absolutely no clue about McCain. So take your arrogance back to your primary class tomorrow, ok?
Andrew | 9:42 p.m. March 22, 2008
It's true that the vast majority of the national Republican party thinks Mormonism is a cult. That's one reason we shouldn't vote Republican. The second is that McCain wants us to be in Iraq for one hundred years. How can that make sense to anybody?
Hey! | 9:48 p.m. March 22, 2008
Please someone tell me where the phrase "voting for the lesser of two evils" came from. It doesn't even make sense! It is still voting for evil. I am amazed when I hear some one seriously say that as though their agency has been taken away from them but they are going to do their duty to vote anyway. That sounds like one of the other countries like Russia etc. For the first time in many years we do have a choice. Someone who has always been steady and voted to preserve our constitution. He is right on nearly every point and has proven himself worthy of my vote and many others I see that have participated in this blog. I am voting for Ron Paul and I hope you can all step out of your little box and do something different this time. Let your voice be really heard!
Brent from Oregon | 10:01 p.m. March 22, 2008
In response to "To Brent from Oregon:" I'm not suggesting that nobody in the church would have supported Romney had he not been Mormon. Anyone can support any candidate for any number of reasons. But realistically speaking, a non-Mormon Romney's support among the Mormon community would be much, much less, and probably wouldn't surpass that of McCain or any of the other Republican contenders, had his religion been, say, Baptist or Catholic. And his support amony Mormons would be nil had he been athiest.

Many people find something in a candidate to identify with (in this case Romney's religion) and thereafter ignore anyone else running and at the same time not scrutinizing the candidate of their choice. This is fairly common. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
Eric | 10:21 p.m. March 22, 2008
I find it rather strange that many have suddenly gotten behind McCain under the rationale that he is a better choice than either Obama or Clinton. Hello! We have more than two choices for president. None have garnered the attention of the media, but let's not let the media run this election. Let this be a grass roots election. You can start by studying the principles and candidacy of Ron Paul. Without even realizing it, most people in this state align themselves with Ron Paul far more than they do with Romney. Yet, many have passed him off as not being a viable candidate or have been misguided by the media about his platform and have not come to the conclusion that he best represents your views. With a surge of support for Ron Paul in the next couple of months, we may be able to convince him to run as an independent if another viable candidate does not do so.
Another View | 11:10 p.m. March 22, 2008
Mitt knew exactly what he was doing when he dropped out of the race and later warmly endorsed McCain. There is a saying to the effect (a nursery rhyme, I think) that if you are obviously losing a contest, run away so you can return to fight another day. Mitt understands that well. He will be back--big time. In the meantime, if John McCain doesn't have the good judgement to select Mitt as his v.p. running mate, I'll write in his name. I can't vote for McCain even by holding my nose, and voting for Hillary or Barak is simply out of the question.
Judgement | 3:04 a.m. March 23, 2008
If McCain has good judgement he will not select Romney. Why would he want to align himself with some fake wannabe who changed positions on every important issue for political expiedency.

McCain already has issues with the conservitives and Mitt just isn't a conservitive, no matter how much he thinks he is now. Most people on this board just ignore any shortcomings or faults Mitt has. You people worship him like he is Jesus or something.



Helen | 10:09 a.m. March 23, 2008
I understand how the people of this state got wooed by Mitt. By virtue of a common religion they thought they knew where he was coming from on certain issues -- and he really was the most competent of the major 3 contenders.

However, there was an even better fit for the populace of this state, someone whose opinions are hand-in-glove with at least the LDS populace of Utah.

That's Ron Paul, folks -- hand in glove with the principles that have been stated from the pulpit. It is time to stop twittering because not only are you calling yourself kooky when you do so, but it's kinda schizophrenic....

So, no one here HAS to vote for McCain. You might serve this country better by using your vote to call the Republican Party to accountability.

Consider writing-in Ron Paul or vote for the Libertarian candidate.
Old Joe | 1:26 p.m. March 23, 2008
Oh my Lord! You need to forget about Ron Paul and anything Libertarain, none of that nonsense will ever ever ever happen. Your stuck, like it or not, with McCain, Obama or Clinton. If you don't vote, or vote for some crackpot who doesn't have even the slightest chance of winning, it doesn't matter. If you think that your making a protest think again, you're really just wasting your time, your dissent is trivial.
Helen | 9:23 p.m. March 23, 2008
If it doesn't matter, as you claim, then my vote need not go to McCain, Obama, or Hillary.... It doesn't matter.

Because we are stuck I am free to uphold my conscience and you are free to wallow in your predestined fate.

But oh.... Canada succeeded in electing a third party a number of years back -- and their current Prime Minister is one of them....

But it doesn't matter! On to your fate!

Oh, if there were only real men these days....
Sinder | 1:27 a.m. March 24, 2008
Q: Over Mitt?

A: hardly...

Q: do I want to keep Hillary or Obama OUT of the white house?

A: enough that I would vote for McCain.
Marie Devine | 7:41 a.m. March 24, 2008
If we want to continue our way of life that has led to pollution, energy crisis, global warming threats, diseases, abortions, auto accidents that kill and maim more than wars, grossly overweight people etc., then any of the candidates will do.

If you want to head for God's best plan of retirement in a garden paradise with edible landscaping and useful pets for fresh food and healthy bodies and families that stay together, then pray for that, speak of that, start planning gardens and fruit trees because has things all set up for someone not on the ballot to take over.

God has solutions to world problems we created by ignoring His wisdom. He has prepared the way before you for a truly godly nation that will join other nations to God's truth.
Mountain High | 9:21 a.m. March 24, 2008
If 54% of Utahns are really for a deeper recession that will put this country in worse shape than the depression....and continuing to keep our troops bogged down in Iraq and forced to "Surge" in Afghanistan because of an ever increasing resurgence of the Taliban.....then I guess Senator McCain is the right man to vote for.

If 54% of Utahns really want to see the present 4000 American Soldiers Killed in Iraq escalate to 10-15,000 or worse yet to Vietnam era proportions..... or want to see our Deficit budget expand beyond the projected 9 trillion dollars by the end of the George W. Bush Administration......then I guess Senator McCain is the right man to vote for.

If 54% of Utahns really think that the WalMart mentality and outsourcing of U.S. jobs is the way to go.......or exposing our children to toxic chemicals in clothing, toys and food products manufactured outside the United States....then I guess Senator McCain is the right man to vote for.

If 54% of Utahns want to in reality extend Dick Cheney and the Industrial Military's Complex's stranglehold and the selling out of the American Dream.......then Senator McCain is most definately the right man to vote for.
SLC | 1:47 p.m. March 24, 2008
Please, People, Be Quiet and let the Deseret News tell you what you really believe.
Flip Flop | 4:20 p.m. March 24, 2008
I was really enjoying Mitt as I thought he did an excellent job of exposing McCain..just goes to show How Bush Sr. got in there also as VP at first.
Mountain High | 5:50 p.m. March 24, 2008
Ref: Helen
Helen,Helen,Helen,

Pay no mind to these blow hards...your vote for your precious Ron Paul will matter. It could easily be the vote needed by any of the three present front running possibilities...i.e. McCain (a shoo in as the Republican nominee) or either Obama or Hilary......... but it's ok that they won't get your precious Ron Paul vote..........by the way do you really want to use your Canadian example....the third party that nearly caused the secession of three of it's provinces from the rest of the country............seems to me we had three or more parties prior to the civil war.
leroy | 6:02 p.m. March 24, 2008
Re Ron Paul. Nuttier than a that fruit cake, but honest to a fault. I loved the guy for his honesty and how the repubs boo'ed him at the debates. You see, you boo someone you cannot argue with. He has the winning points but you are too embaras. to admit it.

Nuttier than a fruit cake on his tax plan, but so honest about foreign policy you just want to hug him and take him home to grandma.
Helen | 4:12 p.m. March 25, 2008
Mountain High:

It doesn't matter what you think of the Reform Party. The point was that they were successful in getting themselves elected.

But the Reform Party did not nearly cause the succession of the west. The factors in play existed long before the Reform Party came along. I am sure Americans would not tolerate this scenario, but in Canada your senators are appointed by the party in power -- to rubberstamp the policies they want enacted. No elections....

The platform of the Reform Party was that the senate should be elected and equal so that big provinces couldn't exploit the small provinces (like we have 2 senators per state here), and an effective body -- not a rubber stamp.

That was considered an outrage by the media and they were all branded kooks -- with the tin foil hats and all the rest.

Now, you've been hearing that Ron Paul is a kook. But his policies are more normal and sensible than you realize.... You just haven't heard them yet.
Realist | 5:12 a.m. March 26, 2008
I'm sorry, I don't vote for ANYONE just because he or she is LDS. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't need to look any further than Harry Reid to see what a ridiculous fallacy that is.

I'm supporting John McCain now because he's our best choice among the three still standing. I am not "over" Mitt Romney. He is uniquely qualified to solve the critical strategic economic problems the U.S. faces which imperil our nation on the world stage as never before: 1) our ridiculous dependence on OPEC (which includes avowed enemies) for oil. Iran or Venezuela could have us begging on our knees in 30 seconds. 2) Grain: Japan recently purchased the entire remaining U.S. spring wheat crop, which sits in stateside storage so they can resell it at huge profits. Russia has already done same selling us back 2007 grain at huge profits. 3) Our perilous dependence on China for consumer goods, foodstuffs, medicine and strategic weapons components. In spite of continued shipments of faulty, adulterated and dangerous products, we fail to hold them accountable. Why? China holds over $1 trillion in dollar-denominated assets. They have already threatened to dump same and trigger our economic collapse.

Mitt for Veep!
bhparkman | 3:49 p.m. March 26, 2008
I never supported Romney. We are of the same faith, but we are not of the same politics, society, or economy.

In regards to McCain: he is dangerous, and his policies and plans are far too similar to both the Democrats.

My vote will be a write-in for my brother. He's not running as a Democrat or Republican, or at all. But he is of age, and I trust him - not Clinton, Obama, or McCain.
Realist | 10:41 p.m. March 26, 2008
To bhparkman...
I had to double check to make sure your last name wasn't Schanze...whew!

Guess I'll vote for your brother, too. Can't be any worse than McCain, Obama or Hillary. Just three questions, though, in the interest of full disclosure:
- Has he ever taken money from a lobbyist that affected his vote?
- Does his religious leader spew anti-American rhetoric?
- Has he ever ducked and run from imaginary snipers?

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