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Thomas Jefferson | 7:46 a.m. March 18, 2008
The Republican party has had parental choice in education as part of their
platform for decades. So it has not done anything different than what the
principles of the party have been established on. Mitt Romney strongly supports
vouchers and he took the vote in Utah by an historic 90% vote in February. So
Vouchers are not the deal maker or breaker that the democrats, or democrats in
republican clothing, wish to make them out to be.
fr1nk | 8:17 a.m. March 18, 2008
You guys are just wrong. Vouchers were re soundly defeated and will be again if
any legislator is foolish enough to bring them up. If you want to send your kids
to a private school, pay for it yourself. I thought you republicans were FOR
self sufficiency.
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Wow | 8:34 a.m. March 18, 2008
Claims of a well organized Union = "BAD"!!!
Utah is a right to work state, and there really aren't that many teachers that belong to the Union, because the state does not pay them enough. If they have to choose between food and Union Dues, it's usually food.
In CA, all teachers are required to join the NEA to get a job, and there, the Union is well organized.
Seems the Pro-voucher group is up and posting, demonizing the union and claiming Mitt as their Leader.
Which is the well organized group out their ready to take our tax dollars???
Seems like the rich just aren't happy until they get the poor to pay for their kids private school.
Utah is a right to work state, and there really aren't that many teachers that belong to the Union, because the state does not pay them enough. If they have to choose between food and Union Dues, it's usually food.
In CA, all teachers are required to join the NEA to get a job, and there, the Union is well organized.
Seems the Pro-voucher group is up and posting, demonizing the union and claiming Mitt as their Leader.
Which is the well organized group out their ready to take our tax dollars???
Seems like the rich just aren't happy until they get the poor to pay for their kids private school.
Tristan | 10:11 a.m. March 18, 2008
All I know is that Urquhart has to go, he has done NOTHING for St. George but
done favors for the developers and contractors
Chris | 10:29 a.m. March 18, 2008
Actually Clark is running against someone, great reporting...
re:Thomas Jefferson | 10:57 a.m. March 18, 2008
Do some reading on Jefferson before you start using his name.
He would never have supported using Tax Dollars to fund public schools.
He would never have supported using Tax Dollars to fund public schools.
Right | 12:24 p.m. March 18, 2008
Your're right. Socialized public education is against everything Thomas
stood for. He would have said no to the entire concept. No public ed period.
Let parents send and spend on whatever educational experience they deem best for
their kids.
Evil Union Member | 12:30 p.m. March 18, 2008
As a UEA member, I'm upset that John is trying to expose our hidden agenda!
We certainly don't want the public to know what we think is best for the
kids! They would never tolerate the concept of updated textbooks, smaller class
sizes, equal opportunity for all, improved literacy, improved math skills, . . .
the list just goes on! Why we might even ask for fair compensation for
teachers. We certainly don't want to let that get out. So everyone, try
to forget what you just heard. Let's keep it our little secret.
Sandy in Alpine | 12:32 p.m. March 18, 2008
Republicans won't run on a pro-voucher platform. They will hide from it
like they did in 2006. They will pretend to be pro-education, but when elected
will try again to force vouchers down our throats.
The truth about GOP lawmakers is they believe money is God. Being pro-business is one thing. Putting profit above people is another. We are now feeling the effects of the GOP economy throughout the US.
One thing I do agree with is that the UEA Democrats running as Republicans should't get out of convention. Why vote for someone who isn't truthful about who they are? 20 Democrats voted against vouchers. 14 republicans did too. What I want to know is why the UEA only recruited people to run as Republicans? At least PCE was loyal to those who stood by them.
The truth about GOP lawmakers is they believe money is God. Being pro-business is one thing. Putting profit above people is another. We are now feeling the effects of the GOP economy throughout the US.
One thing I do agree with is that the UEA Democrats running as Republicans should't get out of convention. Why vote for someone who isn't truthful about who they are? 20 Democrats voted against vouchers. 14 republicans did too. What I want to know is why the UEA only recruited people to run as Republicans? At least PCE was loyal to those who stood by them.
Phil in SLC | 1:08 p.m. March 18, 2008
Nice article! The stste web site on elections shows that Kay Garske has filed to
run against Rep. Biskupski again this election. Thanks.
Re: Fr1nk | 2:42 p.m. March 18, 2008
Vouchers do not violate "self-sufficiency" anymore than socialized,
taxpayer-funded public schools do. In fact, since most voucher amounts are less
than what taxpayers spend per public school student, vouchers are actually a
smaller subsidy.
Re:Sandy in Alpine | 4:03 p.m. March 18, 2008
The Republican Party plaform has included the statements on vouchers for several
years. The issue has been before the legislature for several years also. It
finally had enough votes to pass and be signed. Another round will be coming.
and it will take the same path, slowly and steadily educating those that
misunderstand the basic issue - it it the parents that are responsible for their
children, and who should retain the choice. Government has never been a good
substitute or steward when assuming responsibilities from the family.
Government get's its authority from the people and the people will win over
the union eventually. Deceipt will be exposed and truth will prevail.
Anonymous | 5:37 p.m. March 18, 2008
If vouchers ever passed, every good private school would increase their tuition
so the "riff raff" wouldn't be able to attend. Do you really
think wearing uniforms and paying tuition makes your kid more intelligent?? IQ
is genetic; a private school isn't going to get a mediocre kid into top
universities no matter how much voucher money is given. The real truth behind
vouchers is that its promoters want their kids to go to a religious-based school
so they can isolate them from the rest of society. The last thing Utah needs is
more religious kooks!!
Dave | 10:05 p.m. March 18, 2008
So what's the big fuss coming from the opponents of vouchers? If parents
want to send their children to a private school instead the monopolistic schools
run by the powerful UEA and NEW lobby, why should they be forced to pay twice
for this opportunity? They already pay for the education of their children
through property taxes and state income taxes. Why cannot some of this tax
burden be used to offset the cost of the private school?
Actually... | 11:25 p.m. March 18, 2008
Parents - Utah taxpayers with school age children - get so many tax breaks that
their contribution to the educational costs of a typical child is about $37 per
year. Grandparents pay, people without children pay, businesses pay, but people
who have children in the home make virtually no contribution in the taxes
collected to run schools.
Vouchers would be fine, but it's the people who DON'T have school age children in the home who deserve the rebate. Pay your own way!
Vouchers would be fine, but it's the people who DON'T have school age children in the home who deserve the rebate. Pay your own way!
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People need to be sure to attend party caucuses to elect PRO-VOUCHER delegates, becuase the well organized teachers' union is sure to be out in force.
Utah kids deserve better than what the union thinks is best for our kids!