Williams and Sloan have come a long way over the last few years. We have a good
team, but Deron makes us a great team. He's our MVP this year.Deron
knows where his teammates like ball. Look at how Deron has made his teammates
better. Memo and Ronnie Brewer have flourished playing with Deron. When Deron
is not in the game, Memo doesn't get the same looks. Hopefully Deron will take
Ronnie under his wing, so Ronnie will continue to develop.
That is Bolerjack's favorite word. He should only get to say it 17 times a
game. He says it way more than that.
Williams is the next Chris Paul. Don't get strung out man.
Common Captain Deron, drive the car as best as you can. I heard that highway of
Boston is full with sharp curves. GO JAZZZZZ
Hey Sloan Hater! What do you have to say about this!I quess Williams calling
plays is not an adjustment for Sloan.
Tonights the big one. This is the game that all the ball boys in the country
would like to be at, out there shooting baskets before the players come out to
warm up! Oh man it doesn't get much better than that. I think Boozer has heard
enough of this Charmin talk, I'm looking to see him play some actual defense
tonight. D will will impose his will and its Brewer to the hoop!!!! Go Jazz!!!
Is it just me or can anyone else sense it that Jerry is bending over backwards
when it comes to DWill. He has turned into a DWill groupie...can anyone say
Common Clarky Boy Deron is already better than Paul, just look at their head to
head matchups, Paul is having a good year but watch them get defeated in the
first round of the play-offs. I would take Deron over Paul any day, don't buy
into the ESPN hype on Paul. Oh and by the way where did the All-Star Brandon
Roy go, Deron should have been in the All-Star game the last two years.
Ya I love how DWill is playing. But sometimes his shot selection over a bigger
man annoys me.Is it just me or DWill is not passing to AK? Does he wants
AK to go away so that he can get a bigger money? !!! I HOPE I AM WRONG !!!
This is unbearable! I'm going to go drink another Tab.
I saw DeShawn Stevenson guarding James. He is a really good defender. I saw
Pavlovic playing great for Cavs, Bell and GG playing good for Pheonix. Brewer is
great. I wish Jazz had DeShawn/Pavlovic [underpaid starter with great
size/skills]. Sloan threw out too many players without getting back any
values for them.
Wow...Tab????Now I am really beginning to question your
I wasn't sure we made the right call when we drafted D-Will ahead of Chris Paul,
but this year I have become convinced the Jazz brass made the right decision.
D-Will IS the best point guard in the league since the All Star break and
dominates Paul when they play head to head. I think they are similiar players
but D-Will's size, strength, and shooting ability separate him from CP3. Paul
is undersized and struggles against bigger more physical PG's like D-Will. I
love having D-Will on our team and just hope the Jazz find a way to sign him to
a max deal and he stays here until he retires.
SOUPE, I've noticed the lack of passes to AK from D-Will as well. It's been
happening for most of this season, and it annoys me to no end. Another thing
I've noticed in the teammate shunning department: Memo refusing to pass to
Korver. Anyone else notice that one?
You could not be more correct about Sloan ridding HIMSELF of players with
potential who simply needed coaching of which jerry could not provide so jerry
quit on these guys along with Kris Humpreys and Kirk Snider and Mo Williams.Kris Humpreys was the leading rebounder AND scorer in the Big Ten as a
freshman. The guy had a ton of potential and great raw talent. But Sloan
didn't have the ability to coach him or help him, so we give him away for Haffa
who we had for one year and did not resign.If sloan gets so much out
of the talent he has,what happened with all of the above??? Jerry has no
ability to really coach, he can only coach players who do exactly what he says,
if they cannot, they are GIVEN away. A coaches job is to bring along your
players.By the way, in the '04 draft, the jazz took humpreys and 14
and Snyder at 16, guess who was taken 15th?? Al Jefferson. I heard that jerry
didn't want Jefferson because high school players take too much work, and jerry
didn't want to put in the work necessary.
Yes, many previous Jazz players have gotten better through the years, but almost
all of those (besides Raja Bell, in my opinion) are too free-spirited players
that can't handle playing in a system that Sloan has...Giri is not
playing well either...nobody is playing that great for the Suns...I
think the only mistake out of those 4 was Bell...he has turned out to be a very
good player...but you have to realize how many players we have picked up from
other teams that have been great...boozer, memo, korver...
Didn't Raja leave via free-agency? The Jazz wanted him but couldn't keep him.
the difference between the players we dumped and the players we got is we traded
or gave away our young talented players, we signed Boozer(who lied) and Okur
because the Pistons were over the cap. If you love sloan, you will argue every
point in his favor, but the truth is sloan doesn't have the ability or
willingness to COACH players. There is really no point in arguing this because
it is what is.
Kris Humphries is slow and a chucker. Kirk Snyder will never be consistent. Mo
Williams is good and Sloan never wanted to let him go, the team had salary
issues. Raja Bell wanted to leave. What do you do?
The jazz did not have salary issues when they let mo williams walk, you are just
saying anything that comes to your mind because you don't want to disparage
sloan so you go into panic mode and start making stuff up. The jazz owned Mo's
rights as a restricted free agent (do you know what that means??) The bucks
signed mo to a 3 year 5 mil contract. That is 5 mil total for the 3 years. The
jazz were under the cap to sign him easily.You are also dead wrong
about Sloan wanting to keep mo,if he wanted him they would have matched the
offer, come on do I really have to explain that 1.5-1.7 mil is nothing in this
league. At the time, sloan said mo was not his type of player and didn't fit
the system. You obviously didn't pay attention at the time so look it up. Just
because you love sloan don't start making stuff up in his defense. point being, if jerry was soooo great, why did he get nothing out of these
first round picks. We can argue each player individually, but sloan HATES to
coach young players.
Your right "Wrong" Kris Humphries is the biggest chucker next to Chuck Norris...
but at least Norris can do a round house kick.. and kick someone in the face or
something.. Kris Humphries was to big of a Wimpy chuck to even get in there and
mess around with the big boys let alone rough them up a bit! We have a dang good
coach.. he is old school.. but he is good.. Raja Bell is the man.. and he was
just to fast paced to play for Utah, his career is exploding with the suns.. its
where he belongs
KOConner is a genius. No other NBA team has rebuilt as quickly and efficiently
as the Jazz have. Yes, it sucks to lose guys like Mo Williams and Raja Bell,
but the rest of them never have and never will be great NBA players...just a few
of them decent. We have players now who are better for our system. IE:
Harpring, Korver, Brewer, D-Will, Booz, Okur, oh yeah and maybe I'll throw AK in
there... Can't figure that dude out for the life of me! BEAT BOSTON!
wrong is right
Ya thats true Raja Bell left via free-agency. Utah wanted him but Raja said that
he wanted to play in Phoenix with Nash and that was his reason for not wanting
to stay, not because Sloan didn't want him, and ya it is a coaches
responsibility to bring along his players but if that player doesn't want to
listen what in the heck do you expect the coach to do. And saying Sloan doesn't
have the ability to coach is ridiculous what do you think he did with AK and is
still doing with Williams, Brewer, Miles, Millsap, and soon to be Fes and
Almond. Looks like he haves the ability to COACH his players to me. All they
have to do is just listen to him. I mean because going off of some peoples posts
if Sloan doesn't like Coaching younger talent then we shouldn't still have allot
of players we got now, meaning he should have just traded all those mentioned
above for veteran players. But as you can see he didn't. And all of the above
mentioned, with the exception of Fes and Almond are getting better in the NBA.
"It's better," Boozer said. "I hate looking back at the bench, because then
everybody knows our plays. They're looking at the bench; we're looking at the
bench.I always wondered how Jordan/Pippen seemed to know every play
that was coming.Why can't Price call plays? If he sees a mismatch or
thinks something will work, why can't he make that decision? Sloan must not
value that UVU education.A little education for the uneducated. A
Majority of the teams in the NBA DON'T have the coach calling plays from the
bench! When does Nash look over his shoulder? Kobe? Parker?This
article raises more questions than it answers and is another example of Sloan's
inferior coaching ability. Fire/Retire Sloan
re: JazzPlayersI completely agree with you in regard to Sloan's
ability to 'coach' players. I think the casual Jazz Fan has come to understand
the word 'coach' to mean 'deride a player until they lack confidence in
themselves and their ability to play basketball OR refuse to take the crap and
leave.'You really think that Bell and Fisher left for any other
reason than Sloan. REALLY? You really think AK broke down because he wasn't
getting the ball. REALLY?You mean Millionaire Athletes Don't LIKE
sitting the bench and getting yelled at all the time in practice?!? The gauntlet is down Sloan Lovers. Name one boss you ever had that motivated
you to excel by never clearly defining your role and abusing you verbally.Fire/Retire Sloan
You make a point that I have been making for years. All these sloan lovers
blame Karl Malone and John Stockton for failing to win the title, not just the
title but too many wasted seasons getting knocked out in the first round. On
the 2nd to last possession for the jazz in game 6 against the bulls, the entire
bulls lineup could see the play sloan was calling (boozer is proof) jordan made
a pump fake like he was folliwng horney accross the lane and went straight back
to Malone, he KNEW what was coming.I cannot beleive we have a coach
who calls out plays on every possession for our backup point guard. This is
BASKETBALL not football, Sloan is not Norm Chow OK.The problem here
is that sloan does not view this as an issue. As he always says, if we execue
we will win. Jerry, sometimes just trying harder than your opponant is not
enough, just wanting it more will not get it done, other teams/players want it
just as bad so why tell them what you are going to do and take away your
advantage. Boozer really exposed sloan as an idiot.
your venom has gotton old beyond belief...
"Kevin O'conner is a genius." KOC is a decent GM, don't forget, if we would
have done things the way he and Jerry wanted, we would have Corey Maggette at 9
Mil a year and Jason Terry for about the same. The jazz are quite lucky that
the Clippers and Hawks matched these offers. To be honest, I doubt many of you
really understand how this all worked. Suffice it to say, we would have never
been able to sign Boozer and Okur if the jazz were not extremely lucky.The jazz did a good job of getting Okur (they offered him the most money) and
Boozer was a one in a million, boozer lied and cheated to get out of his
contract and the jazz gave him the most money. If the timing was a little
different, the jazz would have given all thier money to Kenyon Martin. Sloan
lovers, please don't try to argue these points, becasue they are facts. I don't
dislike KOC, becasue sloan makes all the decisions anyway, but it would be nice
to have Al jefferson, but Sloan didn't want to put in the work to bring him
Yea, and 14 other teams passed on Al Jefferson too, so I guess they are all
idiots as well. Let's not only fire Sloan, lets fire all of the other coachs
and GM's that passed on him.All of you Sloan Haters are throwing out
your opinions and stating they are FACTS....let me give you the real facts:Sloan's Coaching Career in Utah:*17 Years (only 1 loosing
Season)*Total Record: 984 - 5910.627 Win %*Only 6 other coaches in
NBA History with a higher Win% as a head coach*Only Phil Jackson, Gregg
Popovich and Pat Riley have better winning % among active coaches (I would say
that is pretty good company)*Longest tenured coach with the same team
among all of our professional sports.*Did this in a small market that
severely limits your ability to sign high profile players.You may
not like Sloan and feel he is old fashioned, but to say he doesn't know how to
coach is absurd. The facts speak for themselves and these are the FACTS, not
just your uneducated opinions.
Defense has been the major contributor to losses.A coach's job is to
teach and prepare his team for the game. The player's job is to be
well enough prepared before the game, and to concentrate on his role during the
game that effective "in your face" defense takes place.How does a
coach know the tendencies of the opposition without watching film? Doesn't a
coach have to watch and break-down game film in order to prepare his players?Are players prepared adequately if the coach has not helped them
understand the offense of the oppositon's players and their offensive
tendencies. Each player has to act and react with confidence. When
a professional athlete has been adequately prepared by a coach, I suspect he can
accept intense criticism if he doesn't know and do his job.When a
coach doesn't watch film, how can he effectively teach or prepare his players
for competition?It must be difficult for players, most of which want
to play in the league for many years. Confidence is undermined. Expectations
are not clear. Performance is sub-par.Raw, natural talent (of which
our players possess in abundance) takes over in pressure situations. I'm begging: RETIRE coach.
Sloan Hater is still bitter that Jordan was not called for pushing off on Byron
A coach's job is to win games....plain and simple. Has Sloan done that? As
good as nearly any other coach in the history of the game.The post
above proves Sloan has one of the highest win% in NBA History.How
many NBA games have you won as a Coach? What credentials do you have to tell
anyone how to coach, let alone Sloan? Please tell me.....I would love to hear
them. Oh, you don't have any....I thought so.Let's be happy for the
great Jazz teams we have had and continue to have and quit criticizing Sloan.
He has done exactly what good coaches do...win games.
I don't think Jerry quit on Kirk Snyder and Kris Humphries. These two guys quit
on the Jazz. They were big-headed when they came into the league and didn't
want to follow Jerry Sloan's system. Snyder mentioned when the Jazz played
Minnesota that he should have listened to Sloan. Kris Humphries could have been
a Paul Millsap-type player, but he had an ego also.Mo Williams, on
the other hand, loved being in Utah and playing for Sloan, but he left for a
more lucrative offer. The Jazz want 2nd round draft picks, really all players,
to prove themselves. They didn't want to commit to the multi-year deal with
Williams. We also didn't want a situation like Raul Lopez. Paul Millsap should
get a nice deal. Raja Bell left for more money. Who can blame them. Look at the development of Ronnie Brewer and Millsap. The question is whether
these players are going to commit themselves to the program.
Hey, there buddy, you ought to watch a game or two.The Jazz just
beat the Celtics soundly, tip-off to buzzer at Boston, breaking their
ten-win-game-streak.Sloan has been doing this for a long time. The
Jazz are one of the best coached teams in the NBA, and they are young. He knows
how to get his horses to run down the stretch.Sloan has a system.
Systems win. Believe in your system and sell it to your players. If your
players execute, the wins will follow.Quit worrying about Sloan, and
sit back and we will let you celebrate with us at the end of the season.
It should be noted that Stockton had for much of his career considerably less
talent with him than the Jazz and Dwill now enjoy.Those who wish to
compare Dwill and Stock, forget it. Two very different animals. Can't we just
enjoy memories and then enjoy the exciting present.
All the SLoan bashing is so old. And I agree with an earlier post that about
how the "Sloan Haters" vent their uniformed opinions and call them facts while
ignoring the real facts. If you listen to those around the league
everyone in "the know" realizes that Sloan is one of the best coaches in the
game. Doc Rivers said last night he thinks that Sloan is the "Best coach in
basketball". I love how an earlier post gave KevinO credit for the
Jazz's successful trades and slammed Sloan for the bad ones saying he makes all
the decisions. If that's true he would be making the good decisions as well as
the bad. The Jazz have rebuilt faster and more successfully than any other
franchise. That takes great management and superior coaching. To
say sloan can't develop players is a joke. Deshawn is just starting to play
well after being gone how many years? Sasha is not there yet at all. Snyder of
how many teams. Humphries is a bust. But look who he has devoloped, Dwill,
enough said, but I will go on, Millsap, Boozer and Memo developed after he was
here, Brewer, Bell, Mwilliams.Sloan for President!
I grew up in Illinois (as a Bulls fan) and there was only one team that ever
truly frightened me in the playoffs-- the Utah Jazz. Sloan in a basketball
genius and there is empirical evidence that proves it. To wit, the Jazz lead
the NBA in FG%, yet do not run a true fast break (a la PHX) and lead the NBA in
Points in the Paint, yet do not have a dominant inside scorer besides Boozer.
The system Jerry Sloan runs is wildly efficient, and often, the plays cannot be
guarded (how many times have you heard an announcer say "they've been running
that play for 20 years). I was a Deron Williams fan first, but after watching
almost every Jazz game for three years, I have grown to LOVE this team and the
way they play.
I agree with your comments completely. Those who know basketball know how great
of a coach Sloan is.