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BYU volleyball team hit by NCAA sanctions

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But Reggie Bush lives on | 1:42 a.m. March 12, 2008
Too bad Pete Carroll wasn't the coach; he could get all this swept under the rug.

If it's good enough for a Heisman winner, why not a couple of defectors from communism? Welcome to America boys!
Craig | 1:43 a.m. March 12, 2008
Doesn't seem like much to worry about.
The violations were not severe and neither was the penalty.

I agree that the NCAA must have rules, but sometimes, it seems like excessive. I don't know how athletic departments can keep track of it all. I'm glad I don't have to...
byufan | 2:18 a.m. March 12, 2008
Universities make millions off television contracts, ticket sales, and merchandise. The NCAA allows student athletes to play baseball professionally and make money off it. But heaven forbid someone helps a political refugee who is defecting from Cuba! If you are a kind mother that wished to pay the defectors legal fees so they don't get deported back to Castro, you have committed an unpardonable sin! Watch out! Don't ever lend out a used bike. Wait, you must also ask if the sport is one other than football or basketball. You see..in football it is perfectly acceptable for an NFL agent to buy a home for a student athlete and his family (Reggie Bush). You see.. in basketball it is perfectly acceptable for a future NBA star be given an Escalade.
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Bob | 3:07 a.m. March 12, 2008
I can't wait to read what testimony Millar and Patchell provided the NCAA committee. Possibly some real shady business that the SL Tribune discusses briefly but that the Deseret News leaves out completely???
LVvolleyball coach | 7:37 a.m. March 12, 2008
The system is broken. This guy was a political refugee. This pales in comparison to what USC does shamelessly. I am no BYU fan, but this is awful. NCAA d-1 Volleyball only gets 4.5 scholarships per team. This is a crippling sanction.
i don't know | 8:06 a.m. March 12, 2008
to me it seems picky but that is the NCAA. they seem to pick and choose what they look at. as far as Bush two wrongs don't make a right.

so much for the honor code!!!!
JIm | 8:30 a.m. March 12, 2008
How difficult is it to understand and comply with "oversight"? "... a matter of sins of omission...rather than sins of commission." is so 90's. "No one was trying to circumvent rules, and none of the violations gave BYU an unfair recruiting advantage." Just what is institutional disassociation for the booster for two years." mean? Suppose the reply would be, "Just that!" Look for the key words (yes, out of context) - humanitarian. $13,000, accepting a loan, etc., etc. Did anyone say they were sorry? Looks like a vain attempt to whitewash the whole scenario.
To BYUFAN | 8:42 a.m. March 12, 2008
Don't turn the NCAA into the bad guy by justifing what some donors did. The rules were broken. Would BYU and thier "kind mother" have had any interest in this kid if he didn't have the ability to play volleyball? No. That is the reason why it is against the rules, and rightly so.
hoterene | 9:14 a.m. March 12, 2008
"All of the allegations that the NCAA chose to pursue stemmed from humanitarian concern for others, and the actions were inadvertent,"

The NCAA defines an extra benefit as any special arrangement by an institution employee or a representative of the institution�s athletic interest (�Booster�) to provide a student-athlete (or a student-athlete�s relative or friend) a benefit that is not generally available to other BYU students and their relatives and/or friends, or, is not expressly authorized by the NCAA legislation.

BYU isn't being picked on. If they had also provided $13,000 in inducements � including $8,000 in legal fees for immigration issues, as well as use of a car, clothing and lodging to all of the other BYU students, there would be no problem. The problem is the other students don't play volleyball as well, and thus are not worthy of the extra benefits in BYU's eyes

ok | 9:15 a.m. March 12, 2008
I happen to know the mother that loaned, not gave Cala money to better learn English. Cala repaid the money in full, which makes this violation pretty ridiculous. However, the letter of the law was definitely broken.
Humanitarian | 9:19 a.m. March 12, 2008
Even John Wooden of UCLA fame said that he took players home for dinner over the holidays; he would be forced to resign nowadays. where is the common sense and the humanity?
???? | 9:22 a.m. March 12, 2008
Am I reading this right, that the most severe "violations" were giving aid to a non student/ non recruit, basically just a friend to a player on the team. Are you serious? The other violations seem in line with the rules, but why can't someone help someone else out. This seems really nitpicky to me.
What Comes Around.... | 9:28 a.m. March 12, 2008
BYU should not complain about this or try to justify it at all (and I'm not saying they are or will). BYU has an "oversight" office named the Honor Code Office unlike any in the nation set up for the very purpose of providing oversight of both regular students and student athletes. It is the BYU culture to set high standards (you don't think a cup of coffee is a high standard?) and then provide regular oversight and punishment of those standards. Therefore, there should be no complaints when oversight from couaches and compliance is deemed lacking.
re: To BYUFAN | 9:35 a.m. March 12, 2008
How do you know that the "kind mother" would not have helped out the kid if he didn't play volleyball? How do you know that some mothers out there do not help their sons' roommates who are from a foreign country, regardless of whether or not they play sports? Where do you get this special insight into the minds of people you don't know? How do you know the intentions of their hearts?? Please share.
Changes | 9:40 a.m. March 12, 2008
The whole tone of this article is wrong and unprofessional. It ovbiously seeks to downplay "serious" rules violations. Do changes need to be made in the NCAA rulebook? Probably, but me thinks that BYU is the last school to be calling for rules change. HONOR CODE! (Facial hair? sweat pants? shorts? are college students not adults?)
NCAA joke | 10:07 a.m. March 12, 2008
Not that I am justifying what happened, but the NCAA would find violations in about every sport and at every university. Looks like ucla's whining about byu's success finally paid off LOL. I hope we sweep the bruins on thurs and Friday. How about we investigate ucla, USC and Florida st next?
re:What Comes Around.... | 10:08 a.m. March 12, 2008
BYU's Honor Code Office is NOT the NCAA oversight office. There are people in the Athletic Depatment that are in charge of that. They have enough to deal with without all the ncaa provisions.
To BYUFAN, don't be to hastey in your generalizatons of other sports. The NCAA is still investigating Regie Bush. I will not be suprised when he is forced to give back his Heisman and USc has to forfeit their national championship.
Finally, to Changes: What are you talking about? "The whole tone of this article is wrong and unprofessional." This article actually spelled out everything that happened opposed to the article that was posted yesterday. BYU was put on probation, that is not a big deal. Lots of schools receive that. And guess what, I can have a mustasch, wear shorts and even wear sweat pants without breaking the honor code.
take your medicine | 10:18 a.m. March 12, 2008
like a man!

where would college sports be without the NCAA protecting it (and us all) from kind mothers ?!?
To Re: | 10:27 a.m. March 12, 2008
I recognize the honor code office does not have oversight of NCAA violations. My point is to say that BYU has established a culture of EXTREMELY high standards for student behavior and has even set up an office to monitor those standards. It would seem a bit hypocritcal for BYU to complain if someone outside (NCAA) found our oversight lacking considering the BYU culture as a whole is oozing of standards and oversight. Yes Honor Code Office and athletic compliance are two seperate functions - it is the culture at BYU I am referring to. And I expect BYU will handle this with dignity - the previous coaching changes were probably done in anticipation of this.
BlueCoug | 10:29 a.m. March 12, 2008
I played on the BYU volleyball team with Tom Peterson and know him to be a man of honesty and integrity. It's sad that BYU chose to "throw him under the bus," so to speak, to satisfy the demands of this witch hunt by the NCAA that was spurred strictly by jealousy from rival schools and coaches of BYU's volleyball success. I wish all the best to Tom and his family.

Unfortunately, the NCAA does not have the ability to make common-sense exceptions on a case-by-case basis, so the letter-of-the-law rather than the spirit-of-the-law has to be followed. BYU may have disagreed with the overall decision, but they were probably forced to throw the NCAA a bone and make Coach Peterson a scapegoat, even though the bottom-line purpose of the rules, gaining an unfair recruiting advantage, was never the intent, nor the outcome, of BYU's violations.
THIS IS AN NCAA ISSUE | 10:36 a.m. March 12, 2008
The NCAA held a hearing regarding BYU volleyball back in December. Here is what Steve Andersen, coach Peterson's pro-bono attorney, had to say about the NCAA rules. Biased as you might think this is, ANY college coach out there would agree with his observation:

"At the hearing, I witnessed a futile attempt by the NCAA Enforcement Staff to explain to the Committee on Infractions the meaning of a new rule aimed at head coaches. If those at the NCAA who live and breathe the ruels every day can't understand or explain them, I don't know how they expect the coaches out there to obey them all. And the proliferation of rules over the years is mind boggling. In 1952, the rule book was 25 pages long. Today, it totals 1,104 pages. The objectives of the NCAA are laudable, but the system needs a serious overhaull."

sffilk | 10:38 a.m. March 12, 2008
The problem is this: the NCAA has rules. BYU broken them. I doesn't matter who the student involved is. BYU needs to be punished for breaking the rules, just as any other university would. 'nuff said.
VBall Fan | 10:55 a.m. March 12, 2008
After 18 months of investigation all they could come up with were loaned bicycles and housing difficulties? The NCAA's investigation is so lame and an embarrassing reflection on them. If jealous coaches like Al Scates hadn't whined so much, no investigation would have ever happened. The conclusions of this make it so obvious that after 18 months they couldn't come back and say they didn't find any infraction, so they have to make a mountain out of a mole hill. I hope BYU wins the national title this year just to rub it in everyone's face.
Cuban Connection | 10:52 a.m. March 12, 2008
I really wonder how all of this came to light in the first place. Who was the "whistle blower?" It sure sounds like coach Peterson worked hard with the compliance office and did all he could to make sure nothing improper occurred. He certainly cannot be accused of turning a blind eye.
I know when Cala came he was spectacular and some members of the team were upset at losing their spot to this newcomer. I suspect someone close to the team knew about Cala's situation and blew it way out of proportion because of ulterior motives. I hope they are happy now at what has resulted. Too bad coach Peterson was thrown under the bus. Seems like he didn't get a chance to defend himself or even know why he was being force out. BYU accepted the allegations against him as true and canned him. Ouch! We may never know the individuals truly responsible for this fiasco.
Hawk | 10:59 a.m. March 12, 2008
The NCAA does this saber rattling to make us think that they take care of serious violations. Not so. The "scholar-athletes" at SEC and PAC-10 schools, to name a few, are shielded from this scrutiny. Thanks, NCAA, for being so vigilant and keeping us honest. What a galactic farce.
AZ | 11:30 a.m. March 12, 2008
Who cares...this is BYU Volleyball...I had no clue they even had a team until I read this article!
Agree about Peterson | 11:45 a.m. March 12, 2008
Peterson's a friend of the family. I work at BYU. I love the university but I'm very disturbed that such a wonderful person could be treated as a scapegoat for something so minor. Tom should have been give a fair shot, but someone in the athletic dept. had that despicable "someone has to go to jail" mentality that we so often throw around to satisfy some person or committee when we should be defending our own. Ban the booster, not the coach. What happens when Mendenhall or Rose fail to stop a problem (a la Crowton)? What happens when someone more credible than an anonymous poster like me points out that Lavell, ol' glorious, infallible Lavell, told his players that if they wanted to get drunk, they just had to do it outside of Provo?

J | 11:55 a.m. March 12, 2008
Boy I never thought I would here these five words in the same sentence- BYU on probation. What in the world is college athletics coming to. Maybe the volleyball program should learn from the football program. Instead of playing all the best teams in the country play North Iowa and Eastern Washington- you won't have to cheat to beat those guys. Just ask the football team.
Come on DNews! | 12:18 p.m. March 12, 2008
This is the most unobjective article I have every read. This article isn't on the opinion page. Give us the facts, not just a bunch of adjectives about those involved and how it isn't BYU's fault.

Who cares how many rules there are. You better know every one of them and not break a single one.
BigPoet | 1:16 p.m. March 12, 2008
I insist that all these coaches be fired immediately along with Tom Holmoe who presided over this lack of monitoring... Even though Peterson already resigned, fire him anyway, and all the others too. But the VP over athletics can remain, of course. Let's do it right.
NCAA | 1:24 p.m. March 12, 2008
I'm so sick of the NCAA and all their rules, is it wrong to help a kid out when they need it, and why is it that one of these kids can only make a certain amount hourly on a job. As long as their not getting paid for playing the sport, what does it matter if they make decent money from a regular job. These idiots from the NCAA don't hold themseves accountable for anything, but if a coach takes a kid out for dinner he violated a precious law thats idiotic in the first place.
Bottom line these guys could go to any University in America and see the same infractions in everyone of them period.
This is just like anything anymore, people are so anal anymore we can't say or do anything without offending someone, then the government steps in. This is the same type of thing the NCAA does, they start to tell these schools what to do, I'm sure these athletes will soon only be able to go to the bathroom so many times in a day, and they will only be able to eat certain food. All of this is getting old!
RE: J | 2:08 p.m. March 12, 2008
Bitter yewt fan? Just couldn't help yourself, could you? Saw BYU in the headline and had to make a comment. Still can't let "Beck to Harline" and "4th and 18" go, can you? There's no comparison when it comes to the volleyball program and the football program, so don't try to make one. Especially when it comes to numbers, because there aren't enough collegiate volleyball players to fill up the Olympic Stadium up on the hill.
Ralph | 2:53 p.m. March 12, 2008
To clear up some items, the defector who received the aid from the booster (not Cala) received the help prior to either BYU or Tom Peterson knew he existed. The individual showed up at the boosters home in Canada with nothing but literally the cloths on his back. The booster decided to help him. The individual was told if helped , he could not play for BYU or any other school. When the individual did come to BYU, the athletic compliance group was immeniately notified. NCAA describes a "potential student/athlete" as any student who ENTERS 9th grade. BYU could not find any documentation that this indivdual ever attended any school. The interesting thing is Tom Peterson was asked to resign prior to any NCAA findings were released.
Cougar | 6:53 p.m. March 12, 2008
Who cares. It's volleyball. I thought that was a sport they made you play in gym if you weren't good enough to play any of the other sports, along with dodgeball and climbing the rope.
Muld | 7:59 p.m. March 12, 2008
How about putting the BCS on permanent probation? It's interesting how the NCAA "strains at this knat" but swallows the BCS camel.
Wes | 12:02 p.m. March 13, 2008
After reviewing all three press releases concerning BYU Men's Volleyball sanctions (NCAA, BYU, and Tom Peterson) only one conclusion can be reached:

If Holmoe forced Coach Peterson's resignation because he failed to monitor the recruiting efforts of an assistant coach, then logic would require that Holmoe also failed to monitor the recruiting efforts and should, therefore, resign as BYU athletic director.

It also means that the volleyball assistant coach given the responsibility by Coach Peterson to monitor recruiting, who began the whole failure-to-monitor process, should, certainly, resign!

The future actions of these men would determine their integrity!
VB fan | 2:34 p.m. March 13, 2008
Tom Peterson, even after what has happened to still staunchly supports BYU. Due to his limitation on discussing the events at the threat of losing his small seperation allowance he did not speak out. Anyone who has seen Tom perform or who know him, will recognize him as a quite and respectful individual. He frequently cautioned family members not to write or speak against BYU or any of the administration staff. I personnally do not believe he was asked to resign because of the investigation. As another writer commented about some players being disatisfied about being bumped out of starting positions, I would concur with that. It went so far as one player telling Tom Peterson "your career is in my hands" and "I can bring you down". Seems very odd to me for a student/athlete to make that type of threat. Tom should have taken the student to the Honor Code for review, but didn't because he felt the student was blowing off steam. The students father happens to be an executive at BYU. Hmmm, I wonder?


Dorr | 10:20 p.m. March 16, 2008
No penalties for Peterson! Good news for this meticulus and caring coach.
Dorr | 12:41 a.m. March 18, 2008
Received this email today: "Thanks again for keeping us updated. You have done a service keeping all of us aware of what was happening. I still can't fathom our
church owned university doing what they did to Tom. I guess this is
an example of trying to remember it was decisions of individuals and
not to judge the church or university by the actions of a few. I pray
that things will work out for Tom. I know he thought this was his
dream job but it certainly was a nightmare in the end and hopefully he
will come out on top and even better off. I thought it was pretty
interesting to read the comments that accompanied some of the articles
and see that they were 99% in his favor. Even the comments from
former players never questioned his integrity or coaching. He can
hold his head high for the way he conducted himself these past 18
months. I don't know too many people that could have handled things
the way he did. I truly admire him and Sheryl."
Dorr | 3:04 p.m. March 18, 2008
Judging by information in the news, yesterday, BYU had a challenging weekend. It is understandable that Administrators would be on edge! All is not lost. The BYU Men's Volleyball Team is achieving. Several of previous head coach Tom Peterson's talented recruits are helping to keep the current team at the top of the Pacific Federation in Division 1 this year!
Greg | 11:23 a.m. March 19, 2008
Wow! It sounds like the media is running with this BYU volleyball story. I'm guessing that BYU didn't expect to be squirming under the spotlight after the final decision was made. At least everyone knows what happened now instead of just having it brushed under the rug.
Dorr | 12:04 p.m. March 20, 2008
A front page sports article in the Daily Herald written during Coach Peterson's time as head men's volleyball coach at BYU highlighted Michael Burke, who played for the 2004 BYU Men's Volleyball Championship Team under Peterson's coaching. Burke was from Utah and became a team leader in BYU volleyball. Peterson preached the desirability of developing local talent from Utah Valley as well as from the state. He was hoping that a volleyball program of some kind for local high schools could produce recruits for BYU.
TrulyBlueCougar | 5:06 p.m. March 24, 2008
This is one of the more interesting emails I have received:

NO PENALTIES FOR COACH PETERSON:

I agree with "Trueblue" who wrote me about BYU volleyball. There is a limit to the propaganda I can stand. Coach Peterson would have brought some welcome changes in the old guard. Not that the old guard members haven't contributed to BYU Sports, but they just don't want to hand the reins to anyone but someone who will do things their way. Some of the men involved have grievances against Peterson, like he has been successful, for instance! Grow up athletic administration and Cougar Club members and move into the future without fumbling it or the people who are willing and able to tackle it successfully!

"TrulyBluecougar"
Dorr | 9:26 a.m. March 28, 2008
I have found these past weeks, by reading newspapers, that BYU athletic administrators do support personnel! Their support just depends on who the person is. If they want the person around for some reason, that person will get their support. It is the same with the newspapers. The truth is subordinate to selling papers or expressing the views of those in charge or what those in charge insist is the feeling of the majority readership. "It is a matter of business," both entities insist, and "business is cruel." Interesting admissions from a school based on the life and teachings of the Savior and public voices who claim to be seeking the truth.
Dorr | 3:37 p.m. April 3, 2008
From "Lightbulb" Sorry to hear about the volleyball situation. I hope Tom Peterson can find something he likes to do. He, obviously, belongs court-side, coaching a team. I hope he can do it again.
Dorr | 7:58 a.m. April 4, 2008
We enjoyed the Tribune sports news article of 23 March about BYU's men's volleyball situation which included a photo of Coach Tom Peterson labeled "Coach Shawn Patchell!" Was this an error or a joke or a subconscious wish or a suggestion? We also appreciated the comments of baseball coach Law that were included in the article. We "wish" that Peterson could coach a men's volleyball team at UVSC where there is one opening for a men's athletic program. The team could start competing at once in the Pacific Federation and competing with the likes of BYU, Stanford, UCLA, Pepperdine, etc. We contributed to a fund in the UVSC (UVU) Foundation in the name of "Parlell G. and Ruth Lewis Peterson" for a men's volleyball program. Athlete and coach, Parlell Peterson, developed the recreation and athletic programs of Orem when it was becoming a city.
Dorr | 1:12 p.m. April 12, 2008
It was great to see Coach Tom Peterson sitting in the coaching section again at UVSC as Utah State University played volleyball at the tournament there this weekend! The team and head coach looked like they appreciated him. Something BYU administration seemed to have a hard time doing. We would like to see Coach Peterson at BYU, but since the culture there now is only for certain people who meet qualifications set by the ruling group, we are excited to be able to see Peterson in action again! We would really like to see him in the Pacific Federation where he could coach against BYU! We understand there is an opening at UVSC (soon to be UVU), and someone has a fund organized in the UVSC (UVU) Foundation to which we can donate for a men's volleyball team. According to the athletic directors, the team could begin recruiting and playing immediately teams like Standord, UCLA, Pepperdine, Long Beach, etc., as well as BYU. What great exposure for a new university! Hope this men's volleyball goes. Everything is already in place at the school with a place, equipment, personnel, players. All UVSC (UVU) would need is money and Coach Peterson!
Dorr | 3:25 p.m. April 13, 2008
It is good news to hear that the young players of the BYU Men's Volleyball Team are succeeding this year. It should be good news to Coach Peterson, as well, who recruited or was responsible for the recruiting of these fine young players.

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