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Utah Jazz: Jazz face budding NBA superstar Paul

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Anonymous | 2:54 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Except he has never beaten Deron Williams. That's all you need to see when determining which is the better point guard. Wins. The same goes for you Billups.

If Deron was in the same situation as Paul is, he would have equal or better numbers. Williams isn't asked to take over the game and score all the points, he is merely asked to control the tempo and run Jerry's offense.
donnie 23 | 3:27 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
I just need one thing explained to me, how is Paul an MVP candidate when he is averaging 1 assist and less than 2 points a game more than williams? Williams isn't even mentioned in the MVP conversation. I am so sick of the Paul talk and the guy cannot shoot from the perimeter at all. ESPN is so in the tank for Paul it makes me ill. Do they not know that Williams is 7 and 1 against him.
I know this doesn't have alot to do with the article , I am just venting.
Dr Jazz | 6:15 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
"What it boils down too" is the Jazz need this game. Williams needs to continue his dominence of Paul. The Jazz can't afford to play .500 ball.

Lets see who shows the leadership tonight?
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Ron Hitley | 7:03 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Paul is an MVP candidate because he's averaging about 20, 10 and 3 (steals), he's the undisputed leader of his team, and the Hornets have been near the top of the Western Conference all season, surprising everybody.

I'm a massive Hornets fan, but I can definitely appreciate Deron Williams. He's a fantastic player, but I don't think you can say he's just flat out better than Chris Paul. Williams has won the majority of their head-to-heads, sure, but an NBA season is 82 games long, and the MVP award is based on that, not on three games against a particular team.

Still, I realize Chris needs to have a big game against Deron tonight. It's key. And if that does happen, people will still be arguing about who's better tomorrow. That's just how it is. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the battle.
Matt | 7:11 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Anonymous---The score: Williams vs. Paul is 7-1 in favor of Williams. Yeah, Paul does have one victory.
Phil | 7:54 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
I am glad we've got D- Will. I've thought he was the best for the Jazz all along. Paul seems to have trouble defending guards like D-Will. When they match up together D-Will dominates, he owns Paul.
re: Ron | 8:09 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Tell me again when Paul took the Hornets to the conference final.
Suna Namyag | 8:10 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Williams is better by far. Bigger, stronger, quicker. He will last longer in the league and give you many more options. The Jazz pulled off another one when they drafted D-Dub!!

JazzFan4ever | 8:48 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Personally, I think both will have solid games tonight. But it is Andrei that will need to have a big game. The Jazz need an X-factor tonight because the Hornets are looking for payback and are at home.I'm hoping for Brewer and Andrei to start and ignite the defense on fire. (hoping...)
page | 9:13 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
they are both good. D-will does what he does for the jazz. and kp does what he does for the hornets.they are both winners that is the bottom line.for the jazz i take d-will but for the hornets i take kp.I do think that d-will will last in the league longer.
D Will is my Idol | 9:15 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
I was at the game when the Jazz killed the Hornets earlier in the month. D Will was amazing and the self proclaimed CP3 couldn't hang with D Will. CP3 got into foul trouble early in the game because D Will was way too big and strong for him. I predict a Jazz win and D Will player of the game.
Nick | 9:23 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Can't we think of a better nickname than D-Will? That's just lazy abbreviation. C'mon Jazz fans, let's not settle for this slop.
Williams vs. Paul | 9:23 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
The debate will go on forever. It favors Deron because one area he is heads and shoulders above Paul in is mental toughness. DWill plays better when stakes are higher. He rises to the occassion. He plays better when he feels snubbed or when he is being compared to someone else. DWill isn't afraid to meet a challenge.

Paul is a great player but look at what he does under pressure. His head to heads with Williams are a good sign. If he makes the playoffs this year it will tell a lot about his composure.
Moto X | 9:24 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
MVP's are always a hotly contested discussion because everyone seems to have a different idea of what that means to them. I don't think there we be much dispute that if you pulled CP3 off that team they would be in complete disarray. David West and Allstar? I think he and Tyson Chandler have CP3 to thank for making them look good.

As far as the stats go Deron is a far better shooter this year both in total FG% and 5% better in 3 pt shooting which is huge as a PG. CP3 has 1 less turnover/game and about the advantage in steals and assists. Deron is physically bigger which makes him tougher to defend and he gets to the FT line more often. Deron seems to be the more durable of the two thus far.

Much of the stat differences are likely due to the offense-style. CP3 is always asked to make the play where Deron often gives the ball to others and then everyone cuts to the hoop.

Both are awesome players but I sure do not feel like we missed out on anything with D-Will.

Hopefully the "road-game-brain-fungus" has not infected the Jazz again for tonight.
Homers | 9:36 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
I love the jazz homers that won't admit that CP3 is a legit MVP threat this year just because he was taken AFTER Williams. I think williams would be in the same boat if he had been snubbed and taken after paul. williams plays his best when he has 'something to prove.'

Both are Great PGs and Both will be all stars for years to come. This is how i see the tradeoffs
CP3 plays better defense and is quicker in getting to the rim (and drawing fouls) and Dwill is a better shooter and stronger... it's like comparing Billups to tony Parker.. So quit taking it personal when people praise CP3
OldJazzSmack | 9:46 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
If any of you fans care to know NO has a center which the Jazz do not. They also have not 1 but 2 superior point guards in Chris Paul and Janerro Pargo. Pargo showed what he can do last time they played the Jazz and is a better point guard than Derin Williams. I also think that Morris Peterson is in the top 5 best shooting guards in the league, watch the game tonight and you will see.
Stefan | 9:51 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Jazz fans are sooooo annoying. You just can't take the fact that Chris Paul is better. Deron is just taller and bigger. That's it. CP3 has way more skills & a leadership. & who ever said that Deron is faster up above, you're on drugs!
CP3 is better cuz.. | 9:59 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
CP3 is better because he doesnt have to share the team, it is HIS team. If DWILL was in NO then he would be the allstar. Utah is a team club whereas the hornets are a team of individuals.
I have not heard D-will mentioned for MVP this year but CP3 is always mentioned. plus the hornets have a better record, and win on the road.
We all love D-wills' game but hes never going to be as aggressive as cp3

I KNOW MOST OF YOU WILL THINK IM ON CRACK BUT THE FACTS ARE THERE TO BACK ME UP.
ID Jazz | 10:02 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
You will be able to see who is going to win this game by the end of the first quarter. If the Jazz start the game they way they did against the Clips, Hawks, and Pistons don't waste your time for three more quarters. If they start out trying to push the ball and scoring then there defense seems to be better and it could be a fun one to watch. Being on the road you wonder which team will show up. Seems though as Deron goes so does this team and usually he is up to the challenge against CP so hopefully they are will show the Hornets who originally owned that city and still dominate it from Utah. Go Jazz
Anonymous | 10:06 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
skills challenge anyone?
Love it | 10:34 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Gotta love all the myopic Jazz fans. Myopia is spelled J A Z Z F A N.

Sean | 10:40 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Hornets are going to take this one....it will be a playoff atmosphere. Just watch on TV (preferably High Def), and it'll seem just like you are there..crank the TV up. It will be a great game, but, I am from New Orleans and I think we will likely get this one. It's going to be a good game, but, trust me on this one...you've heard alot about attendance and crowd in New Orleans, but, we turned a corner a couple of weeks before the All Star game and have been packing the Arena pretty well ever since then. The City is on fire right now for this team and you'll feel it tonight. Tonight's game is going to be standing room only and it will be an exciting game. Just watch. Everybody in New Orleans and Utah will enjoy this game and the wild atmosphere that will be in the New Orleans Arena tonight. GO HORNETS!!!
re:oldjazz smack | 10:48 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Morris Peterson is one of the top 5 off guards in the league???

So you are saying he is better than 7 of the following all stars over the past few years:

Kobe Bryant
Dwayne Wade
LeBron James
Manu Ginobli
Brandon Roy
Kelvin Martin
Tracy McGrady
Paul Pierce
Michael Redd
Richard Hamelton
Joe Johnson
Allen Iverson

This is one of the most rediculous comments posted in months. Peoeple like you make all jazz fans look like idiots.
CP3 | 11:01 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Why is everyone so defensive about the national media praising Chris Paul. Deron is a very nice player, but he is no Chris Paul who is really a superstar, plus, his team has a much better record than the Jazz= thats why he is an MVP candidate to all of you who can't figure that out.

This has been asked before but no one has a decent response= why would you bench Williams behind Milt Palacio and Keith McCloud during Will's rookie year???? it made no sense at the time and makes less sense in hindsight. Williams was the 3rd pick in the draft and played a postiion the jazz desperately needed, what was he going to learn behind a couple of scrubs who were out of the league the next year.

After that season, Paul played on team USA and got tons of experience and attention while DWill played in the Rocky MT Review. Deron is a great player, but Sloan held him back and we missed the playoffs by 1-2 games because of it. Derron would be an even better player today if it weren't for Sloan trying to bully him, Derron has admitted that it botherd him.
Center Issue | 11:12 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
How come all the Jazz fans complain about the Jazz not having a center and that it is going to hurt them when last year in the playoffs they defeated Houston who has the best center in the league with Yao Ming? Utah will be just fine without one.
re:CP3 | 11:21 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
follow your own counsel. Quit making a big deal out of DWill and Chris Paul. Many will argue D Will is better others Chris Paul. Their games are different and both have special talents that the other does not have, hence there will always be a debtate, so if you advise against such a debate then why don't you lead by example? Also learn to spell Deron before talking about him. Oh and yeah, D Will is better and always abuses little "CP3."
adam d | 11:26 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
I would take either of these guys over any point guard in the league. Yes over Nash,Kidd, Billups, etc...
They are both great players and I like them both.

I agree with oldjazzsmack. I really like what the Hornets have done with their team. I like chandler. I would love to see him in a jazz uniform. He reminds me of a young marcus camby (only thankfully he is not marcus camby) The key for winning tonight is keeping him under wraps. Anyway the game is certainly a toss up.

And I also agree with oldjazzsmack we are a very good team but we need a big man to put us over the edge. I think Big Fes can be that guy and he could be it this season-you know if we actually want to go anywhere in the playoffs.

SO BRING UP FES!

And I am sick of people telling me he is not ready. Are you kidding me? Was ostertag ever ready? Collins? Fes is already a better defender, more athletic, a better ball handler, and a better post up scorer than either of these two.
Jazz fan but.. | 11:27 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Chris Paul is a little more consistent and slightly better. However, I am hoping the jazz get a first round matchup with NO because Deron is so much better in the head to head matchups. The Jazz would win in 5.
RE: Homers/OldJazzSmack | 11:41 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Pargo better than Deron? That's why he's a backup. As to Paul drawing more fouls, whatever Williams has shot 62 more FT's this year. Deron has only scored 13 less points all year and is on a team that doesn't require him to score as much. Paul does have 19 more assists but Deron shoots 51% on FG's to Paul's 48%. Along with 40% on 3's to Chris's 35%. To those who say he is an MVP candidate because they have a better record. It's not like it's 15 games, just 2. Deron played with the Olympic team last summer so whoever went off on that is wrong as well. CP3 is a great ball player but please don't make arguments that can't be backed up. (stats are from USA Today as of today)
RE: CP3 | 11:37 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
What reality do you live in?

Very true, Deron is no Cris Paul. And Cris Paul is no D-Will. Cris Paul "Really is a superstar". Okay, D-Will really is a superstar too. Just in a better system with better options.

Much better record??? Hornets: 38-18 Jazz: 37-21. After the Jazz win tonight, Both the Hornets and Jazz will have 38 wins. How is that a "Much Better Record"?

Why bench Will his rookie year? The Jazz system asks a lot out of a point-guard. The "Learning Curve" for a point-guard is higher for the Jazz then most other NBA teams (Maybe all). Just cause D-Will wasn't playing in games doesn't mean he wasn't learning during practice. Look what he was able to do by the end of his rookie year, his sophomore year, now as a third year point!
Better Record? | 11:44 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Much better record? Hornets: 38-18 Jazz: 37-21. After the Jazz win tonight, Both the Hornets and Jazz will have 38 wins. How is that a "Much Better Record"?
Vince | 11:51 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Saying DWill is better than Chris Paul is like saying John Stockton was better than Isiah Thomas, neither are true and anyone outside of Utah knows that.
Dave | 11:52 a.m. Feb. 29, 2008
I guess Jazz fans know more about MVPs than Kobe Bryant. By the way re:homers/oljazzsmack. Have you looked at the western conference standings??? 18-loses, 21 loses is a BIG difference. Do we have to debate that too.
RE:homers/oldjazzsmack | 12:03 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Everyone knows that when it comes to records(late in the year) you don't look at wins, you look at loses. Come on now, lets not start arguing that 21 loses is better than 18 just because we need to get defensive.

By the way, Chris Paul leads the entire league in steals and has had 2 games with 9 steals. Its funny how nobody has mentioned that stat.
D Will better | 12:04 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Well D Will is better. Why?

More durable- Paul has missed tons of games in his young career already.

More size- This mean matchup problem for other point guards and better defender, cannot be bullied in the post like Paul

Better Shooter and finisher- You cannot argue with that, D Will gets to the rim and finishes and shoots well

Great passer- Paul is a great passer, both get their teams involved, I'll give Paul the edge on this one, but that is it, just an edge.

This year I have heard at least 5 NBA analysts say they would take D Will to start their team today. I guess these guys don't know what they are talking about right?

Conclusion: Paul is phenomenal, but so is D-Will. This is a situation that at the end of their careers you will see who was better and that is/will be Deron Williams. And this is from a non- Jazz fan, I hate the Jazz, (GO PISTONS!) but I do call it like I see it and I would trade my Billups for Williams at the drop of a hat.
Moto X | 12:08 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Upon further review, I have to admit that Chris Paul is better than DWill.
Deron | 12:26 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
CP3 is a baller - he is quick and can get to the hole...

The only problem with this is he gets smashed when he does get to the hole, and he can't guard bigger guards, like D Will, when they drive to the hole...

Plus, we have all seen how CP3 reacts under pressure...a big games comes and he chokes...

Let CP3 have his MVP's...like someone said earlier, it is HIS team, whereas the Jazz play as a team...A team will always be better than a bunch of individuals...

Can't wait for the playoffs so we can settle this again...The Hornets goal was to make the playoffs...thats embarrassing...the Jazz know they will make the playoffs and their goal is to win a championship...
blaah blaahh | 12:27 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
This is like arguing over who was better Larry Bird or Magic Johnson?....until they meet in the playoffs who cares!! regular season doesn't mean anything, there are back to backs, 3 games in 4 nights etc. that make a lot of difference in the regular season. D-will's matchup record with Paul doesn't mean anything either if Paul's team beats the jazz in the playoffs. At this point it's mute to go backwards and say the jazz should have drafted Chris Paul. D-will and CP3 don't play one on one for the win anyway. There are 5 people on the court at the same time!! Teams win not individual players...right now New Orleans is the better team! and the end of the season who knows...until then Blaah Blaahh.
NBA Skills Test | 12:40 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
I like how everybody forgets what happened just two weeks ago. Deron BROKE and SET new records at the all-star skills event. Deron BEAT Chris Paul. Period.
re:re:oldjazz smack | 12:44 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
You mean all HORNETS fans look like idiots?

ha

GO JAZZ!
Steve | 12:48 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
I think that this debate is stupid and pointless. Deron Williams is the right player for Utah's needs and Chris Paul is the right player for NO's needs. If you switched the two I dont think they would be as successful because they are both in the right system. Both teams got the right pick. You can't say the Jazz are dumb for not taking Paul, Williams is the better player for the Jazz.
cp3 hater | 12:56 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
will all of you cp3 lovers be here in the morning singing his praises after DWill owns him tonight?
Team USA | 1:33 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
It is really going to sting when Paul receives his gold medal and D-Will is watching at home.
Love the Jazz | 1:50 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
D-Will is the better point guard. Period!
Anonymous | 1:55 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
I think the only reason CP3 has more assists more per game is because they have Tyson Chandler. All he has to do is throw it up by the basket and Chandler just uses his long wingspan to dunk it in. Shoot, that guy would make any PG look good,
cody | 1:58 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
The Hornets can't say they are a better team, currently there record is better but the season isn't over and each team hasn't played all the same opponents. The closest you can get is comparing head to head which clearly shows the Jazz as the better team. Even if NO wins the remaining two games the series will be tied at 2 apiece. When you look closer it will show the Jazz won twice by over 20 and most likely the Hornets will be nowhere close to that. The Hornets hav had it handed to them so far by the Jazz and Deron has had the advantage heads up against Paul. At this point I don't see a realistic argument.
DOGG | 2:02 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Yeah Paul might have one win against D-will, but Paul didn't even play in that game, cuz he is was injured and not durable like d wll
NBA Fan | 2:08 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
Jazz fans kill me! Both gaurds are good players but obviously Jazz fans are blind. It's not one person who thinks that Chris Paul is an MVP candidate, it's a bunch of people. In fact, people who get paid to make those decisions! It doesnt matter cause it looks like Kobe will be the MVP playing the way he has with a bad ankle and bad pinkie.

Take the blinders off Jazz fans!
Logic Prevails | 2:16 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
These anti-Jazz hacks do not care if the discussion is pointless.

Their lives are pointless. They do not even believe what they are typing. It is simply to get a rise out of others here.

Both PG's are top notch and the fact that you can argue either way makes it clear drafting either one was no mistake.
Re: NBA fan | 2:36 p.m. Feb. 29, 2008
And it is those same people who voted Dirk as the MVP last year and look how that turned out. And the same people who don't think Kobe is ever the MVP. It is mind boggling that PAul puts up such good numbers, but can't do it against the Jazz. It has to mean something. Head to head does matter, cuz people are making a deal out of how good Paul has been against NAsh, which is true too.

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New Orleans Hornets guard Chris Paul, left, with Morris Peterson, is a serious candidate for NBA Player of the Year, Kobe Bryant says. Paul averages 20.8 points and 10.8 assists per game.

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