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Road show: New movie stars Jessica Lange as LDS widow traveling in Utah
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jim | 8:21 p.m. March 2, 2008
just to let everyone know, that this was a fun film to be a part of and for
every one involved in makng it! i was a extra and a stand in for two of the
actors, which by the way have not been mention! they are tom womack and tom
scaret.. we had a blast so if you want to see a fun movie, go see it and quit
making it sound like a sin.
To Haley | 8:28 p.m. March 2, 2008
Do you have a reference to your claim that more LDS women drink coffe than not?
Or that more LDS women gamble than not? Didn't think so. And, we are not
self righteous, we genuinely strive to live righteous life. I can appreciate,
from your perspective, how you might view it as self-rightious. Also, your
generalizations, like, 'quit condeming everything you see' are
tiresome. Also, by resorting to name calling you display your ignorance of the
english language and your inability to intelligently debate.
Linda from Kent | 10:25 p.m. March 2, 2008
OK. We transported my deceased husband's body in a box across 2 state
lines (with permission and permits in hand) in the back of a truck! It is
possible and does happen. As for cremation....it is up to the individual per a
Bishop and his wife (family relatives of my daughter) as they have chosen this
way of final disposition of their bodies. They checked it out thoroughly before
deciding. I hope this movie depicts the truths we believe in as I have been
told. Any way it plays out, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is
here to stay and is stronger than ever! I love being a "Mormon" (as is
our NICKNAME) and have been widowed. If a women can find some solace and joy in
transporting her husband's body (or ashes) to where he wants to finally
'rest', then all power to her. Been there, done that, can see the
benefit in such a special journey! If you have not walked in someone else's
shoes, please don't judge. If you haven't seen the movie, FOOT OUT AND
CLOSE MOUTH.
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llg | 10:56 p.m. March 2, 2008
I am an LDS widow and my endowed husband was cremated last year at his and his
family's request. I find it comforting to have his marble urn nearby. We
had an awesome funeral for him, then a LDS family-owned mortuary advised me
about the process. I plan to have the same done for me and as a nurse
appreciate the purity of it all. It is silly for others to indict loving
friends and family for this sane choice.
Mormon Mother In Iowa | 7:52 a.m. March 3, 2008
There is way too much hostility on this subject and I can't believe the
directions this discussion has taken. What does it matter if Kathy Bates is gay?
Why does it matter if they portray mormons badly? Hollywood has been doing it
for years. If people see this movie and think badly of us, well, they are
probably the type of people who wouldn't listen to sound advice anyway.
And, for those people who do understand that we are human and that there are
mormons who follow all the commandments and there are those who don't, will
see the characters in the movie as the exception and not the rule. Frankly,
I'm saddened that we are arguing about such an insignificant thing. We are
all human. We all make mistakes. We all have agency and can choose for ourselves
whether to see the movie or not, whether to like it, or not, and whether to pick
out all the finicky details of the mormon points of doctrine or simply enjoy it
for the entertainment value or not (if it has any, I don't know,
haven't seen it).
BTW, DALE<YOUR ASHES COMMENT WAS HILARIOUS
BTW, DALE<YOUR ASHES COMMENT WAS HILARIOUS
Another Utah Mormon | 8:36 a.m. March 3, 2008
Thanks Caroline on Cape Cod!! You've nailed it.
Anonymous | 5:36 p.m. March 3, 2008
LDS members who disrespect the human body by supporting cremation are also those
who drink caffeinated beverages, probably have no problem with a little gambling
now and then, or a little shopping on Sunday, and letting their children date
before the age of 16, and stay out past 11pm, and put off having children until
after they finished their education, and all the other things that the prophets
have counselled us not to do. This movie portrays just such "jack
Mormons".
Haley | 6:39 p.m. March 3, 2008
To To Haley | 8:28 p.m.,
This movie IS based on solid research. Interestingly, a study published in the American Journal of Epidemiology Vol. 116, No. 2: 243-257 by The Johns Hopkins University School of Hygiene and Public Health did show that "less active" Mormons consume coffee, tea, and/or alcohol at a rate equal to that of non-members. (Activity rates in the U.S. are around 50%).
The authors stated that "All Mormons, however, do not adhere to the health practices of their Church, and this study classifies Utah Mormons by their... degree of adherence to Church doctrines."
The study also showed that, although refraining from smoking resulted in "lung cancer rates 80% lower than those of the least devout group," there were no reported ill-health effects from drinking coffee or tea.
So, in answer to your (sarcastic) question, YES, I DO have references. The above is merely one of a handful.
If you were sincerely interested (which obviously you are NOT), I could provide others...
This movie IS based on solid research. Interestingly, a study published in the American Journal of Epidemiology Vol. 116, No. 2: 243-257 by The Johns Hopkins University School of Hygiene and Public Health did show that "less active" Mormons consume coffee, tea, and/or alcohol at a rate equal to that of non-members. (Activity rates in the U.S. are around 50%).
The authors stated that "All Mormons, however, do not adhere to the health practices of their Church, and this study classifies Utah Mormons by their... degree of adherence to Church doctrines."
The study also showed that, although refraining from smoking resulted in "lung cancer rates 80% lower than those of the least devout group," there were no reported ill-health effects from drinking coffee or tea.
So, in answer to your (sarcastic) question, YES, I DO have references. The above is merely one of a handful.
If you were sincerely interested (which obviously you are NOT), I could provide others...
Closing credits. | 3:13 a.m. March 4, 2008
........ annnnnnnnnd end of scene.
PS - Refreshments anyone?
PS - Refreshments anyone?
Sue | 4:42 a.m. March 4, 2008
Oh, come on people. I'm an Australian Latter-day Saint. Seems we just
might belong to different Churches. I can't believe most of the stupid
comments I've just read. Wake up and smell the roses. There are more
important things in life. A movie is just for entertainment -don't see it
if you don't want to. And get cremated if that's what you want.
It's your choice. Don't try to tell everyone else what to do.
Jim J in Cedar Rapids | 11:02 a.m. March 4, 2008
My goodness, what a conversation that has ensued from this article. My
son's first born passed away in November (five weeks old) and he was faced
with the same questions, burial or cremation. The Bishop counseled with my son
and did not state whether it was or against Church doctrine, only that the
Church did not encourage cremation. In the end, my son decided on cremation as
he could not bear the thought of burying his newborn (my son is 20 years old).
He's still a member of the Church, no lightening, no counseling beyond that
decision process, and is still very welcome in Church and amongst the members.
To put it succinctly, it is a family's private decision in the end and no one else outside the immediate family (spouse, children) has a say on whether the decision was right or wrong.
I plan to see the movie when it makes it to Iowa or comes out on DVD as I see anything that has to do with the Church as a positive step (whether the topic or treatment is positive or negative). It gets the Church in front of the public and generates questions. Sounds like fun too.
To put it succinctly, it is a family's private decision in the end and no one else outside the immediate family (spouse, children) has a say on whether the decision was right or wrong.
I plan to see the movie when it makes it to Iowa or comes out on DVD as I see anything that has to do with the Church as a positive step (whether the topic or treatment is positive or negative). It gets the Church in front of the public and generates questions. Sounds like fun too.
Bad idea | 3:09 p.m. March 4, 2008
Cremation is a cheap way of getting rid of some remains. No need to by a grave
plot or coffin. They burn you up in a cardbord box. It's pretty VILE!
Anyone who does this doesn't have too much respect for the dead.
Jadon | 8:45 a.m. March 5, 2008
Afraid you lost me after reading so much back and forth about cremation or
creAmation. I did like the comment by "You're all assuming".
Really made me think about all those chemicals and 'pickling'. My
father was cremated although he never told me why he wanted that, I now think he
had thought it out. I wonder if I could be buried without chemicals? I have
always told my family that when it is my time to go I want to wander off into
the mountains or woods.
Fun comment by "LVIS" with the play on words. A couple of 'my kind of people'.
The movie - Yes, I suppose that is why we came to comment. Well, now that I know about it I will watch for or seek it out. Sounds like it could be fun and we can all use some light moments in our lives. I sincerely wish some fun for quite a few of the people commenting that I read. Way too serious. A Canadian Mormon
Fun comment by "LVIS" with the play on words. A couple of 'my kind of people'.
The movie - Yes, I suppose that is why we came to comment. Well, now that I know about it I will watch for or seek it out. Sounds like it could be fun and we can all use some light moments in our lives. I sincerely wish some fun for quite a few of the people commenting that I read. Way too serious. A Canadian Mormon
Another View | 12:54 p.m. March 5, 2008
Ya want respect? My HP dad was cremated; had a wonderful LDS funera; and a
glorious, full-blown, 21-gun, military burial. With trumpet. And bagpipes.
Under virtuous circumstances, the earth is "sufficient for all," but in general these ain't they. Ergo, the policy of no-policy on cremation specifically permits us to govern ourselves.
Sheesh, if some of y'all are so exercised over cremation, I'd hate to wonder at the flap that would fly over endowed organ donors and those who bequeath their bodies to science.
Is is exactly that respect and love for others that prompt some to endow others with the "gift of life," or to permit their temporarily uninhabited bodies to be studied and learned from by researchers and medical students who will go on to partner with the Lord in healing the sick.
Which has nothing to do with the movie. I hope it's a hoot and a hit.
Under virtuous circumstances, the earth is "sufficient for all," but in general these ain't they. Ergo, the policy of no-policy on cremation specifically permits us to govern ourselves.
Sheesh, if some of y'all are so exercised over cremation, I'd hate to wonder at the flap that would fly over endowed organ donors and those who bequeath their bodies to science.
Is is exactly that respect and love for others that prompt some to endow others with the "gift of life," or to permit their temporarily uninhabited bodies to be studied and learned from by researchers and medical students who will go on to partner with the Lord in healing the sick.
Which has nothing to do with the movie. I hope it's a hoot and a hit.
jj | 5:22 p.m. April 7, 2008
This movie has a really funny ending, christine baranski's expression at
the end was just perfect!!!
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