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Such evidence does not exist; in fact, the evidence shows that CO2 is a reaction to temperature, not a regulator.
"Burning carbon fossil fuels, particularly coal, releases a tremendous amount of carbon dioxide pollution, the "greenhouse gas" most blamed for global warming. Also, the pollution itself is harmful, with or without warming."
Carbon dioxide is NOT a toxic pollutant like other emissions from burning coal, such as sulfur dioxide or fine particulates or mercury.
The ambient concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere would have to be several times higher than it is now in order to cause negative health effects on the general population, and reducing CO2 emissions from power plants would not result in any obvious improvements in air quality.
Now if Mr. Bauman were discussing the negative effects of coal pollution in general, he would be correct. But that's not the context of the statement.
Rather than the unobtainable "proof" you ask for, I will merely point out that it can be demonstrated and measured in a laboratory that CO2 absorbs photons of infrared light, and then re-emits them in unpredictable directions. This measured property of CO2 (first measured in 1896)is why global warming was proposed as a hypothesis, long before the climate data showed an increase in global mean temperature. It is now up to climatologists to verify (or invalidate) the argument, and that is why so much time is now being spent on it.
You can dissent away all you want, the real world of science is going to continue to investigate, and the evidence that some warming is anthropogenic is immensely persuasive.
Yes, I study peer-reviewed journals. That's where I discover the doubts of climate experts and uncertainties in the data.
Of course CO2 can absorb and retain heat, but I ask for evidence of CO2's effects in the real atmosphere, which is much more complex than a lab experiment. The evidence from the recent and distant past is that CO2 is a bit player, not a driver; a reaction, not a cause. I've never seen those data refuted.
There is significant uncertainty about the very existence of global warming and its magnitude. Examples: Warming of the past century (0.7 C) is smaller than the uncertainty in measuring earth's "average temperature" (plus/minus 2 C). Arctic warming has been caused by changes in Arctic ocean circulation (NASA, Dec. 2007), which is cyclical. Each thermometer is influenced by land use changes around it, including urban warming, so the global dataset is biased toward warming. Etc.
Uncertainty does not get its fair hearing in public forums and the IPCC, EPA, Congress, and certainly not in the press. That's why I keep writing here and elsewhere -- uncertainty is a Big Deal when you're making multi-trillion dollar decisions.
I for one would be delighted if the scientific community would continue to investigate the referred subjects - energy, power generation, climate - the whole lot.
I worry when we keep getting told that "The science is settled" and we need to "Act". Won't bore you with the concerns about preferred action models.
Rgds
1. CO2 toxicity
CO2 is not toxic at the concentrations it exists in the atmosphere (currently about 380 ppm). Perhaps I confused the reporter, who otherwise provided accurate information. The point I tried to make is that we work on both traditional and climate change environmental issues. To set the record straight, CO2 is toxic at concentrations above about 5% - far less than pure CO2. For example, the Apollo 13 astronauts were threatened by CO2 poisoning, not a lack of oxygen. However, there is no realistic concern about CO2 toxicity at atmospheric concentrations.
2. Global Climate Change Reality
Few credible remaining scientists question whether CO2 is either increasing because of human activity or influencing the climate. Many of the conservative positions of the past have since moderated, even by the sharpest critics of climate change. The view that it has no influence is erroneous - it has been a significant contributor to a livable climate on earth for eons. The questions revolve around the influence of the recent (man caused) increase in CO2. There is legitimate debate whether the cost of reducing CO2 emissions represents the best investment of public dollars and effort.
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