um | 1:36 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
i wouldnt put to much stock in what charles barkly says either. go jazz
Oz | 3:26 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Wow no mention on wether or not Korver was able to get some clean undies.....

Go JAZZ!!
LKeeler | 7:23 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Fast, and probably cheap fix for a back up center who can play defense. Name is Justin Williams. Kings just released him with the Bibby trade. Don't think that anybody has picked him up. Rebounds and blocks shots like a mad man. Just hasn't been getting any P.T. Way better than Collins, and doesn't have to pick the system up much to play defense. No way the Jazz can contend in the west in the playoffs without more big men. Gasol, Shaq, Timmy D, Stoudamire, even Camby and Chandler, all will be big problems for Okur. Williams is a taller Millsap.
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fossil | 7:56 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
how about ben wallace to help in the middle. what happened to mark eden who used to broadcast jazz tv.
LaKerJazz Fan | 8:06 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
I don't think Ben Wallace would be a good pick up. Statistically he has the worst free throw percentage in the league. He loses value in that you don't want him playing in the final minutes of close games. Also, from a defensive standpoint, if you look back at the Pistons championship runs it wasn't BW guarding the best big man on opposing teams, it was Rasheed Wallace...ie, Tim Duncan. BW is overrated.
Misses # 12 | 8:24 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
The jazz cannot trade for Ben Wallace without giving up a high salary guy to get the deal done under the cap. That would mean AK or a combo of Okur/Harpring and no way that happens. The bulls are stuck with ben Wallace and his big contract. No NBA team wants Ben Wallace (including the bulls) and his sour attitude.
4th and 18 | 8:42 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Actually, the Wallace trade may be a good short-term move. We get some added defense in the middle. He doesn't have to score as we have plenty of scoring talent. He can be out in the last few minutes of the game, no problem.

Plus, and BIG plus here, there will be more cash available when Williams next contract kicks in as Wallace's contract expires before Kirilenko's.
old timer | 9:34 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
I think the Jazz has all they need to get the job done. No trade needed.
Jimmy's Sneakers | 9:45 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Jimmy thinks Jazz should sign Jimmy's Grandma to play center. Jimmy thinks Grandmama is getting there up in age but is old and cranky and really big. She would beat up the likes of Shaq with her body weight and attitude.
lamonte | 9:51 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Hey fossil - His name is Mark Eaton and he used to swat shot attempts like nobody else - even if they were the best inside players. Oh yeah, and he also used to do color commentary on Jazz TV.
Anonymous | 9:53 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
I think we shouldnt trade any of the players that went to new orleans last weekend. The rest are expendable especially AK and his bogus contract. AK's salary could be the reason D-will could leave the jazz.
Why Trade??? | 10:36 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Why Trade? Currently Millsap is backing up Boozer and Okur. We have a 3 man rotation - it's a beautiful thing. Any Back-up Center we get takes minutes from Millsap - Trading Collins, Hart and either Miles or a Draft pick for a back up center is a mistake (Jeff Foster comes to mind at 5.5 million a year for 6 pts and 8 rebounds in 23 minutes compared to Millsap 8 pts and 6 rebounds in 20 minutes) A back-up center will take Millsap minutes.
Wallace - Are you kidding me!!! He 15 millions for 5 pts and 8 rebounds in 32 minutes a game. - His numbers per 48 minutes are worse than Millsap in points and rebounds. Shot Blocking: Wallace 2.4blk/48m to Millsap 1.8blk/48m) I don't think the Jazz should pay 15 million for .8 blocks a game. Plus we would have to give Kirilinko to get Wallace who is a much better shot blocker then either of them. Wallace numbers are declining with his age. By the way - minus his freakishly tall hair - Millsap is as tall as Ben Wallace at 6'9 and Wallace was an All-Star Center back in his prime.
Sokol | 10:55 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Let's get the new Wasatch Mountain Tower of Debuking
Ginobli Duo aka bring back Ostertag with backup Dikembe Mutombo...Bring Jazz fear to those aging
Spurs and the upstart Lakers known as Pond Scum in
some parts. Bynum would be a guppie to our big fish.
LKeeler | 11:21 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
I am a huge Millsap fan, but the fact is, he is too short to play center without getting in foul trouble. Happens all of the time. No way he or Boozer can guard the centers in the west. Got to get help or bring Fez up to give guys like Timmy and Shaq black eyes. Trade Okur and Miles and get somebody back to play defense. Don't need anymore offense. Can't believe that I said that. Bad mouthed Ostertag and Eaton for years for having little offense. Hmmm.
Re:Keeler | 11:36 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
I hear ya Keeler. When we had Eaton, all I did was pine for Ewing and Hakim. I liked Eaton then, but griped about his lack of "O". If we had Eaton in his prime now, we'd have a champ trophy this year.
Crazy talk | 11:44 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Trying to pick up BWallace is insane, Misses #12 was right, no GM interested in the long term health of his team wants him and his contract.

Why not just bring up Fesenko? He's been pretty strong defensively in the D-leauge. Try and work him in for 5-10 minutes a game (basically just give him most of Collins minutes) to get him some experience so he can be a contributor come playoff time, sort of like Haffa was last year. In a pinch he could be good for four fouls and maybe a block and a couple of rebounds in 10-15 minutes of guarding an elite center, and unlike Haffa or Collins Fesenko may actuallly score a couple of points too.
30secondsGO! | 11:54 a.m. Feb. 19, 2008
The Jazz DO NOT need to trade anyone at this point of the season. We made a great move in getting Kyle Korver, and freeing up the offensive side. Grant it we do need a little defense on our frontline. Booz cant stop anyone to save his life and Okur only shows up to play defense when a guy named Yao is on the hardwood. But unless we can trade collins, price/hart and maybe a few draft picks for a GOOD center such as Camby, Brad Miller, or my dream-center, Dwight Howard, than we shouldn't even consider it. I say wait till the off-season and pick up a decent back-up, defensive-oriented center and a good back-up pg such as D-Fish was and we'll take the championship. Or we could get a guy in the draft named KENNY GEORGE, check this guy out! He's 7'8", 360 pounds!!! Doesn't even have to jump to dunk, it's insane!!!
But for now I say we bring Fez up and get him some REAL minutes and get him ready for the playoffs. He looks like a good center with some game on both ends. As for this year we have a shot! Go Jazz!!!
JAzz Fan | 12:21 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
The Jazz Don't Need to trade anyone this late in the season they had a great winning streak that put them first in their devison. They don't need any one else!
LKeeler | 12:50 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Yah, Kenny George is a beast. Problem is that I have one leg and a bunion on my big toe and can still outrun him and I am in better shape. Seriously! Fez is the key. I saw what Haffa did to Duncan in a couple of games last year in the regular season. Can't figure out why he wasn't getting 20 minutes a night in the playoffs against the Spurs. Timmy gets rattled and doesn't like being roughed up. Fez would keep him on his toes and prevent Boozer and Millsap from getting into foul trouble. Wish Boozer would head down to Louisiana this summer to learn how to be aggressive and to learn a trick or two from you know who.
Jazzsmack | 12:59 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
The only trade to me (Jazz fans don't like me but I will proceed anyway) that makes cents for the Jazz is Mehmet Okur for Andres Biedrins. You are all laughing right now but Biedrins would give the Jazz another tuff rebounder and he is a tuff defener. The Jazz have enough shooters they need more defence and a tougher center presence. I guess their is won more trade that wood make cents to me. I would say the other dill that makes cents wood be Okur and Kirilenko for Jermaine O'Neal, Jeff Foster. That wood give the Jazz 2 more tuff guys down low Foster and Millsap as back ups and you wood get rid of AK contract and O neal wood not need to be the go two guy just kind of what Shack is doing for Phenix. That's what I wood do.
Kim Keeler | 1:11 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
We need another servicable big sitting on the bench, or at least a better one than Collins

If we don't improve out roster at backup center we will not win the west.

What do you think a front court of Bynum, Gasol and Odem with Mihm, Turiaf and Mbenga comming off the bench will do to Okur, Boozer and Milsap??
Thebigpodcast blogspot | 1:12 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Jazzsmack is up in the night. I do agree that you have to bring someone into address the middle, but all of the above trades make no sense for the Jazz. The Jazz either need to part ways with Booz, or Okur. Booz is undersized and it shows when playing better teams in the West. Okur has never been a presense in the middle, but does bring a better shot to the table. I would hate to part with either, but if the Jazz had KG instead of Booz I think they are winning the championship this year.
FORCE | 1:45 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
ONCE AGAIN, FEZ MANIA IS RUNNING RAMPANT...

LISTEN PEOPLE, I'LL SAY IT ONE MORE TIME!!!!

"FEZ CAN'T PLAY"......HE'S AVERAGE AT BEST IN THE 'D' LEAGUE WHICH MEANS I WON'T EVEN GET INTO HOW HE'D BE IN THE ASSOCIATON...

HE'S SIX FOULS AND 2-3 TURNOVERS WAITING TO HAPPEN....

IT STILL NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME HOW FANS CAN WATCH ONE GAME AGAINST THE SHORTHANDED LAKERS AND THINK WE HAVE JABBAR,CHAMBERLAIN AND RUSSELL ALL ROLLED IN TO ONE....

MAYBE, AND I MEAN MAYBE, SOMEDAY FEZ WILL TURN IN TO A DECENT NBA CENTER, BUT FOR NOW, HE'R RIGHT WHERE HE BELONGS, IN THE 'D' LEAGUE OR SITTING BEHIND THE JAZZ BENCH IN A SUIT AND TIE...
Sokol | 1:53 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Haffa Love is Everywhere....Haffa really, why did they get rid of this guy? Any answers. They could
use him.
Jazzguru | 1:58 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Thank you force! Finally I have a Jazz fan that agrees with me about Fesenko. I am already sick of the nickname "Fes." What has this guy done to even earn a nickname. This guy is not ready to be in the league, he may have some talent but other than his good 6 mins against the Lakers, the other 2 times I have seen him he looked clumsy and turned the ball over. Stop crowning this guy over 6 good minutes. He is where he belongs right now!!!
TicketHolder | 2:04 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Hey podcast why don't you go one step further and say "I think if we had MJ instead of Stockton we would of won the championship back when..." You are as observant as Ron "the Master of the Obvious" Boone. KJZZ has an announcer position opening up and you are the man for the job. What you people tend to forget was the statement by K O'C. "We only have 14 players under contract." The Jazz don't necessarily need to trade to feel the vacancy. They could easily pick someone up on a short term deal. I have a hard time believing we are going to trade for any of the leftover cancer players whining that they want a change of scenery. Although Ben Wallace deal is intriguing. It would free up 21 million and allow us to sign D-Will to the max and be under the luxury tax within 2 years. LHM says he will now pay the tax but I don't seem him paying it consistently year after year. A trade is imminent but I don't think it will happen until the off-season. Until then gear up for the playoffs. How 'bout them Jazz!
Re: Force | 2:04 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
I agree, we Jazz fans do drink Fez Kool-aid from time to time, but give me a break. He was in the D-League All-Star game. He's like 19-20 years old! I think he's got more upside than just a D-League scrub. He may be no star, but if he could become a solid journeyman in the middle, that's all we need.

Honestly, if he could come in and fill an "Antoine Carr"-type role stuffing the middle on D, that's better, check that, far better than what we have now.
The Fezmeister | 2:09 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Force? Seriously. He isn't average in the D League, he is an Allstar. In most people's books that is good enough for the NBA. Nobody has said he is the next Kareem but he is definitely more that the few fouls, turnovers and flops known as Collins. At least Fez will stay on his feet.
re fezmeister | 2:57 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
seriously Fess was an allstar in the D league. I was an allstar in the sandy south stake three years in a row. We ruled church ball. I bet I could make the allstar in the d league. In 3 years we may think of fess as: Rich Kelly, Mark Eaton, Greg Ostertag, James Donaldson, or if he is lucky Joel Pryzbila. So until then lets just wait and see, and a new nick name for fess is LURCH from the adamms family.
just a thought | 3:21 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
How about Kurt Thomas from the sonics? Seatle rarely uses him and i think they might welcome a trade. He has always been a solid defender, and has a nice shot from 10 to 15 feet.
FORCE@FEZMEISTER | 3:28 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
SERIOUSLY...SO NOW YOU'RE ACTUALLY TELLING ME THAT BEING IN THE D LEAGUE ALL STAR GAME AUTOMATICALLY MAKES YOU GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY IN THE NBA...ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!! THAT STATEMENT IS ABSOLUTELY LUDICROUS.

LET ME REITERATE AND I KNOW ALL YOU COLLINS HATERS WILL LOVE THIS---BUT AT THIS POINT, THE GREAT FEZ ISN'T EVEN HALF THE CENTER COLLINS IS....

NOW, DID I SAY THE GREAT FEZ WOULD NEVER PLAY OR NEVER TURN OUT TO BE A SERVICEABLE TO GOOD NBA CENTER---NO I DID NOT....

WHAT I SAID IS THAT RIGHT NOW, HE'S NO WHERES NEAR NBA READY AND WOULD GET CHEWED UP AND SPIT OUT BY EVEN THE MOST PEDESTRIAN OF NBA "BACKUPS"...

THINK ABOUT IT FOLKS...JS IS IN DIRE NEED OF HELP IN THE MIDDLE..HE KNOWS THIS AND SO DOES KEVIN O'CONNOR...WITH THAT IN MIND, IF HE WAS ANYWHERE NEAR NBA BACKUP READY, DO YOU NOT THINK THE JAZZ BRASS WOULD HAVE ON THE BENCH....HE'S NOT READY AND WON'T BE FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE....

MAYBE SOMEDAY, BUT MOST CERTAINLY NOT NOW....
Johnny Squeeler | 3:31 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
LKeeler is right on. We need a man that can rough these fellows up a little. It's time for Sloan to Fess up.
pistpeeler | 3:39 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
I say we need Hoffa on Dunc. Jerermy or Alex would also work. Or LK.
FORCE@THOUGHT | 3:35 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
KURT THOMAS...INTRIGUING.....CERTAINLY AN UPGRADE OVER COLLINS, (AND I WON'T GET INTO HOW MUCH BETTER THOMAS IS THAN FEZ) TOUGH DEFENDER, DECENT SHOT, MIGHT BE A QUALITY ADDITION..

IT ALWAYS SEEMS TO FALL BACK ON CONTRACTS, DOLLARS, VALUE FOR VALUE ETC ETC...ONLY THE BEAN COUNTERS EVER SEEM TO KNOW FOR SURE IF DEALS LIKE THIS WORK OR NOT.....
Deanne Squeeler | 3:38 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Murle says Hot tub party if Jazz win.
Murle Ogdom | 3:39 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Right On! Lets Kiralinko!
JurmyK | 3:41 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Hey man whats goin on. Jazz need to FIRM up in the post.
RandonP | 3:44 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Lets go make a SABRE, and get a big defender. Give up 5-6 more hard fouls per gameboy.
CPurcell | 3:45 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Nan's man is painting a pretty good picture for the playoffs. Go JAZZ!
Libby | 3:48 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Is labeling Jazz over Warriors.
Jerone | 3:55 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Korver can shoot from bowntown!
Rubs | 3:56 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Put Buck in the middle! Getsome board Jazz. I think the jazz can win to nite,
Jazzguru | 4:04 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Love the Kurt Thomas idea. Seattle is rebuilding and probably would give him up and be open to trades. At this point I am not sure who the Jazz would give up, maybe an expiring contract and a draft pick. Thomas would help tremendously in the post in my opinion. Good thought.
The Solution | 4:04 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
First of all, the Jazz aren't going to trade any of their all-stars by the deadline (okur, dwill, booz, ak) You all are crazy to think that you could find a good trade involving okur. as soon as he is draining game winning 3's for another team, you will be cursing o'conner. plus okur ranks 14 in blocks per game (higher than b.wallace) and can make shots/free throws.

i agree that the jazz need a physical C to play shaq and duncan (who whines about physical play) which....makes me wish araujo was on the bench. Fess is not the answer, he isn't strong or quick enough yet to guard either of those guys. He may be next year after some time with.... a weight training nut (like araujo.) For all you araujo haters, i hate byu as much as you, but araujo wouldn't have been a bad sign for 2 yrs 3mil.

I say the jazz keep this group together and see how far they can go. seems to me the spurs have kept the same 3 guys for a while and done ok.
Fess2 | 4:12 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Fess another Lurch or Ostertag? I don't think so.

Before people post an opinion on Fesenko they should go and watch a few games. While I wouldn't call him the second coming of Kareem. I do think he would do well as a backup center. As a big man, he is a lot more active than Ostertag ever was.

Having seen him play many times (up close and in person) I don't see how anyone can consider him a lumbering oaf.

Personally, I would like to see the Jazz bring Fesenko back up before the end of the season and the playoffs start. It would give him time to acclimate to the team and should an injury occur to either Collins or Okur. The Jazz won't have to go into panic mode forcing Fesenko into a role he hasn't had time to adjust to.
Jazzguru | 4:35 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Something funny about Okur. I have heard so many people calling to get rid of him when I don't think many people see his value. He did a great job on Yao in the playoffs, so he actually can paly decent post defense, he also drags the center away from the hoop which is valuable. As for me, yeah I would rather have Dwight Howard down there, or even a Ben Wallace or a more physical presence but the Jazz don't have that and there are not any trades out there that would bring anyone like that in, so how about everyone quits bagging on Memo who has hit countless game winners anyway and appreciate what the guy does do well. There are only a handful of good centers out there anyways. I like the Kurt Thomas idea though, but the only way I see that happening is by trading maybe a draft pick and an expiring contract like Kurt Thomas. I just ask the question if you trade Memo, then who you gonna get? It's not going to work, so deal with what we've got.
The Solution & Fess2 R Right | 4:30 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
You guys know what is going on around here. I agree!
bones | 4:36 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
Hey its the jazz to nite.
Jazzguru | 4:31 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
I meant an expiring contract like Collins in my last post. The Jazz are done dealing and so they need to be ready for these last 30 games. GO JAZZ! I love playoff time.
Calling of Puttin | 4:52 p.m. Feb. 19, 2008
we want Haffa back

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