Jimmy's Sneakers | 7:16 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Oops, looks like Timmy already answered Jimmy's question about Hart.

Jimmy will be surprised if the Mavs/Nets don't find a way to work out the trade, unless the real reason for its failure is sellers remorse on the Mavs part. To make the salaries work, they could always just include Keith Van Horn in a sign and trade, to make up the difference in DGeorge, and although Cuban said he doesn't want to spend the extra money, he may be beyond the point of no return. How many of his guys would want to stick around and play for him after already trying to be dealt.

Jimmy hopes it goes through, because although it makes the West harder this season, it makes Dallas much older. Phoenix has already gotten older, and the Spurs, with the exception of TonyP, are getting older on their own. This means that in a year or two the Jazz, along with the Lakers, will have an easier run through the west. Of course there will be young upstarts like the Blazers, but the Jazz will be the team with the experience once again.
BWT | 7:43 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
The Jazz are playing as a team again and it's showing. The Jazz has confidant players coming off the bench that is a key to winning. Brewer after missing two games was sorely missed, you didn't realize it until he came back and noticed what he brings to the team. I believe the most valuable person that the Jazz has is CJ Miles. When AK47 was hurt CJ filled in and did well and when Brewer was out again CJ filled in and did a good job. I believe this team can go far this year in the playoffs and in the upcoming future, I wouldn't trade anyone, at least for this year. I still believe the Jazz needs a big man in the middle, which will be Fess. The Jazz are going in the right path.
Go Jazz!
Jazzman | 8:29 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
The only thing the Jazz really need right now is an enforcer at the center position. If Chicago is so desperate to dump Wallace, perhaps the Jazz could package Collins, Hart, and a draft pick or two. I certainly wouldn't trade AK for Wallace, that would be a huge mistake for Utah. Wallace is on the decline, but all he would basically have to do is rebound and defend the paint area, something I'm sure he's still quite capable of doing.
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Misses # 12 | 8:48 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
No GMs would trade any regular for Hart and Collins plus a draft pick. I guess he would if he wanted to get fired. If John Paxon traded Ben Wallace for Hart/Collins/draft pick they would change his office locks before the next morning.
Steven | 8:53 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Did the Lakers, Suns or Maveriks need to make a deal to compete for the ring? No. Do the Jazz? No. But have they placed themselves in better position to win it all, I believe so. Risk vs. reward, will the Jazz be willing to take the chance that would put them over the top, as an elite club going into the play-offs. I do not mean mortgage the farm, but if a player and a draft pick are needed to bring in an difference maker, preferably in the post, I think it's time to take that leap. Not during the off-season, and no Korver was a great pick-up, but he is not the difference maker. Haywood, Wallace, Randolph, O'Neal, Kaman, Collison, Diop could all be that player down the stretch ranging in price from Brewer/Miles to AK and a pick. Time to get it done.
Misses #12 | 8:56 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Actually to make the trade for Wallace work under the salary cap the jazz would have to include AK or a combo of Okur and Harpring. Chicago made a big mistake signing Wallace.
Barney and Friends | 9:03 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
I would have liked the AK47 for Ben Wallace trade if it were made 2 years ago. Currently I don't understand it.
I have always really liked Ben Wallace but he is on the downside of his career while AK47 is on the upside. I don't think Big Ben can produce anymore for even the Bulls. O'Conner is thinking ahead. Jazz will dominate the NBA after the next couple years. They are young and will only get better. Phoenix and Dallas are getting old and thinking now before it is too late. I hate the Lakers and wish them the worst. Mitch Kupchack is the Isiah Thomas of the west. This is really the only good thing he has done for the Lakers. Gasol is an injury waiting to happen though.
Lakers might not be so lucky.
GO JAZZ!
THE UPSTART | 9:29 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Deron should be a stand up comedian. "We stacked up. We got Kyle Korver." Compared with the worst of the players mentioned as upgrades for the other teams, Kyle couldn't carry their jock strap. Sad thing is that I'm just as excited as Williams that he's here. Good luck Jazz. I love you guys, but I really found that comment funny as all get out.
JazzFanFromMinny | 9:26 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
What is up with this kick to get Wallace to the Jazz? The Jazz always play better with team chemistry and bringing him into the mix would totally mess that up. Why don't we bring Fess up from the D-League, to get him some experience come playoff time?
Jimmytrout | 9:46 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
When can we stop talking about the need to make a trade and enjoy the team we have! The best teams are almost always the one's with continuity. The Spurs of this decade, the Bulls of last ... they might have tinkered here and there, but it was stability and cohesiveness that won championships. Hart & Collins aren't the best (although Collins is, IMO, a solid role player ... he does what he needs to and doesn't complain), but no one is going to give us something for nothing. People complain about Memo, but a year ago he was representing us in the All-Star game. Let him play his game. Let AK play his game. People are even calling for us to trade Booze?!!! Let this team play together for three years ... the championship will come while everyone around us tries to accommodate.
Anonymous | 9:47 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Were gonna have to get rid of AK because if we dont we are gonna loose some players. I know millsap can get a heck of alot more than $750,000playing ofr another team, and if Deron doesnt get a max contract he's gone, Boozer will be gone also. AK's inconsistencies are not worth the money. if he can't get a double double on a weekly basis like boozer can then he's expendable. There are better defenders out there than him that are paid alot less.
Re: Misses #12 | 9:53 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Giving Okur or Harpring along with AK would be way too much for wallace let alone trade AK for him straight up.
Reply to Misses #12 | 9:53 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
You say the Bulls wouldn't take a back up point guard, an under-used center and some picks for Wallace.
Didn't Memphis just do that in giving away Gasol?
Moto X | 10:07 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Actually, Korver has been the difference maker, but probably not in the way most would think a player might be. He does not "take over" games (usually) but when he is on the floor he spreads the opponents defense and THAT makes all our other players better because the opposition can not leave him unguarded. If teams double team anyone then they are toast because our balanced scoring attack will usually make them pay.

If there is a big man role player that becomes available then we should get him but we should not trade any big pieces because chemistry is good right now. Chemistry is worth as much or more than big name players.

Shaq will likely not work in Phoenix and Dallas is brain dead if they think trading all those players for a old slow point guard will get them over the top. The Laker trade for Gasol is likely to work for the better and makes them top contenders.

All that said it would be hard to beat the results we have gotten since the time we acquired Korver--whether it is all him or not. Our trade may turn out to be the best of all.
Should have done it. | 10:12 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
The Jazz should have hopped on the opportunity to trade Ak for Marion.

Deron Williams
Kyle Korver
Shawn Marion
Carlos Boozer
Mehmet Okur

I'm really dissapointed that Larry Miller didn't pull the trigger. With that line-up, I think the Jazz would have been one of the favorites to win it all THIS year.

It hurts to think about what could have been.
Bogut FAN | 10:29 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
The Jazz are a big man that can defend and rebound away from being a legit contender in the West. I would love to see the Jazz trade for Andrew Bogut. Bogut hasn't really flourished in Milwaukee and they need to shake things up as their current roster isn't getting it done. What about Kirilenko for Bogut and an expiring contract to make up the difference. Kirilenko just might return to all star form in Milwaukee if he gets his wish to be traded and Bogut would give the Jazz someone to defend Yao, Shaq, Bynum/Gasol, Duncan, and Stoudamire in the West. Git er done!!!!

Oh well, we can always dream right?
Jazzsmack | 10:33 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Looks like the person imitating me finally got over it and is done. Collins for Wallace? Keep dreaming Jazz fans, however I think Andrei Kirilenko and Ronnie Brewer plus a first round pick for Zack Randolph would make a lot of sense. There would be a two headed beast down low and you now New York would do it. But Slown wood never do that. Do't wurry no dills will be made.
Jimmy's for Jordans | 11:39 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
I think we ought to trade Jimmy's sneakers for a pair of Jordans. We can win championships and not have to hear all that annoying 3rd person talk.
Sign in after me to be included in the petition.
RE: Jazzsmack | 11:48 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
You'd give up the 2 best defensive players on the team for the black hole of basketball? The jazz need MORE defense.
UVU Alum | 11:57 a.m. Feb. 14, 2008
GO RONNIE PRICE!!! YAY!!
jazz fanatic | 12:10 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
i think the jazz need to go after a center like lamar odom, trade okur because we have the youth and shooters at the three position. we need a big body in the middle that can rebound and take the pressure off of boozer.we need that toughness to match up with all the teams in the west.get us a center and the jazz go all the way period.
RE:JIMMY | 12:17 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
it's really annoying that jimmy talks in 3rd person
Rim Village | 12:26 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Jerry Sloan is still the class act of the coaches. He just keeps trucking along.
Sloan Talk | 12:23 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
What, no talk of firing Sloan? Usually no matter what the subject on these boards is, there are five or six idiots calling for Sloan's head.

Oh, I'm sorry. That's when the Jazz aren't playing well. The idiots love Sloan when the Jazz are winning. And they also love Carlos Boozer and Deron Williams too, but conveniently forget that they wanted them gone two years ago.
JazzDieHardFan | 12:43 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
The reason the Jazz did not deal AK for Shawn Marion is because his contract is running out and he probably would have opted out of the contract next year. The only thing that would have done for the Jazz is clear cap space. AK is playing well and it would be nice to have Marion but what we have now is a happy AK47 and even if nothing else his trade value has risen. AK is valuable to this team and personally I am happy that trade did not go through because Marion would not have stayed.
Re: Jazzsmack | 12:43 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Randolph would never work our here in Utah. The last ting we need is a chemistry destroyer like any player that was a part of the notorious JailBlazers. Zack would never survive the Jazz style of playing. However, the other knicks big man is supposedly available. Eddy Curry maybe somewhat of a risk he hasn't done that well since he left Chicago, but then again who could flourish under that no good thomas. If the price was right this maybe a deal worth trying.
Jazzsmack | 1:08 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Think about it

Deron Williams
Kyle Korver
Matt Harpring
Carlos Boozer
Zach Randoplh

You double Boozer or Randolph and we kill it from the outside. Randolph is an excellent shooter from 20 feet and in also plus he rebounds well and is an under rated defender. I say do it. But Slown and O Konner and Millar wood never do it.
Zach Randolph really | 1:19 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Didn't you notice what happened to the Blazers after that cancer left their team. He takes an amazing amount of shots to get his 20 points a game. I think we already have our man down low who doesn't play defense, and when he isn't hitting shots he hurts the team.

Lamar Oden is another cancer. Everyone talks of his potetial but all he does is complain about his lack of shots and not being the man. Wallace is over the hill and unless the Bulls agreed to pay his salary and trade him straight across for Hart and Collins that would be a horrible trade. I know the bulls can't pay his salary but that is the only scenerio where he makes sense.
RE: Zach Randolph really-Steven | 1:38 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Looking at these numbers in 33.0 minutes a game. His defense may not be what he is known for and he is not the ideal size, and he has a checkered past, but he brings it and 20 shots a night at 46% FG is still over 20 points a game when you figure 5-6 FT attempts a game and those 10 rebounds could really help.
PPG REB ASST FG% MIN
17.3 10.3 2.0 46.0 33.3
bogut stinks | 1:34 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
kirlenko for andrew bogut are u kidding me bogut is a slug and always will be kirlenko is one of the best in nba just because bogut played in utah some idiots are just blind
Bogut Fan | 1:45 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Go get bogut...think about it:

Deron Williams / Ronnie Price
Ronnie Brewer / Kyle Korver / CJ Miles
Kyle Korver / Matt Harpring / Paul Milsap
Carlos Boozer / Paul Milsap
Andrew Bogut / Memo Okur

or

Deron Williams
Kyle Korver
Matt Harpring
Carlos Boozer
Andrew Bogut
Yes Bogut! Keep the Core | 2:28 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
I like the jazz core we need to keep it together as best we can. But we do need a defensive big man. Three suggestions

Bogut-Bucks
Kamen-clippers
Dalembert-76ers

All under the radar and underrated. All can block shots and can guard Yao,bynum,duncan,gasol and maybe old man Shaq.

However If a trade is not possible we have Big FES! You have to see FES live to appreciate how big he is. I think the only bigger centers are Shaq and yao.(But if memo can guard yao so can Fes) He absolutley dwarfed the up and coming always talked about Bynum. He is a good shot blocker. He is just a big body to plug a hole sort of like ostertag except Much better. He doesnt have to know the offense just he defense get him up here or we are sure to loose to:
Spurs
Suns
Lakers
Dallas

Also my two bits on the shaq trade. He only has a few good games left. He will play a bit but mostly save strength for the playoffs.You know the games that matter! And he will be playing at full strength. The suns dont need him to make the play offs-just-win-them.

Bogut Sucks? Are you kidding? | 2:28 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Bogut is the best passing big man in the league. Has the potential to put up 20 and 10. He dominated Amare when they played the Suns.
re: bogut stinks | 2:36 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
I like Kiriliko, but he is not one of the best in the league. His salary is going to prevent us from locking up D-Will, Paul Milsap, Brewer, and other key components to the young nucleus the Jazz brass is building.

Bogut is a 7-footer, that has the body and ability to match up with the other big men in the west. The fact that bogut's stats althought not bad, have been down is a plus for us, because he won't demand a huge contact out of the gate. I believe that he is the type of player that could flourish in the Jazz system, much like Matt Harpring. It all depends on whether the Jazz are content just making the playoffs each year, or whether they want to truly become a contender. Without a solid Center, we will make the playoffs, but we will continue to fall short because we cannot defend the likes of Tim Duncan, Pau Gasol/Andrew Bynum, Shaq/Stoudmire without double teaming which gets us killed with the 3-point shot or others slashing to the basket and getting layups.

Git er done!!!!
Trouser Trout | 3:00 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
WOW!!!Are you serious??? Randolph could`nt exist in Utah much less be productive,he`s nothing but trouble,also he plays the same position as Booze,remember him,I would`nt trade AK straight up for old Zack,much less throw in Ronnie B and a #1 WOW!!!!
Araujo | 3:28 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Rather than getting Bogut, let's bring back "Haffa". Let him get his 6 fouls every single game.
FORCE | 4:09 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
RANDOLPH-----CANCER
page | 4:15 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
i would take bogut in a new york second for ak 47 and i love ak it would make the jazz a contender now and we would still be very young brewer is so good i would not let him go. maybe cj.
FORCE-2ND TRY | 4:34 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
RANDOLPH-----CANCER

BOGUT----NOT THE ANSWER

WALLACE---STINKS, SIGNED HUGE CONTRACT AND HAS PLAYED LIKE A DOG EVER SINCE..

KAMEN/DALEMBERT---INTERESTING, BUT YOU SURE WOULDN'T WANT TO GIVE UP THE FARM TO MAKE IT HAPPEN....
Scotty | 4:53 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
Come on people, let's get real. Some of these suggestions are so ridiculous, I have one to match. Let's just move the team to the Eastern Conference and we can see the Jazz in the finals year after year for the next five years.
TRADE NO ONE!!! | 10:01 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
The fact that I see so many people commenting on possible trades confounds me. Are you people crazy?! We already got Korver through a trade, and ever since then we've only lost three games. It's fool-hardy to mess with the team right now. Utah has everything they need and shouldn't make any more changes this year. If they keep this pace up the rest of the season, they might just win 60 games and at the very least make it back to the conference finals.
bigjazzfan | 11:43 p.m. Feb. 14, 2008
don't who keeps impersonating jimmy and jazzsmack.

But we all know it's not them. You are not fooling anyone.

You don't sound like them, you don't talk like them,
you don't spell sloan like them, you don't talk about the subjects they they talk about. You talk about players and trades they would never talk about.Your posts don't even look like their posts.

It even sounds like you are up making many posts and having a conversation with yourself.

Did jimmy and jazzsmack break your brain?

Or are you just that desperate to be jazzsmack? or jimmy?

Just go away you are making the forums on the jazz miserable for everyone.
NBA Genius | 12:00 a.m. Feb. 15, 2008
Zach Randolph are we all that retarded in Utah or what you have got to be freaking joking! Oh let's get rid of Kirilenko for Bogut that might make sense if you were retarded. So I guess we will just put Memo on the bench and start Bogut hmmmm wasn't Okur playing in the all-star game last year? This time is young and very poised and with Korver spreading the floor let's make a run now and deal with improving the team in a smart way over the summer. We all know that someone is the odd man out this summer whether Kirilenko or Okur we have to keep Williams and re-sign Millsap, but who cares let's deal with that after we make a push for the title. If it's not broke don't fix it. 17-3 in last 20 games best in the NBA! Think before you post something retarded please!
Haywood sucks | 1:13 a.m. Feb. 15, 2008
I'm just glad some idiot did not bring up the Wizards' Brendan Haywood as a desired player. As Utah Native, but DC resident I've watched this guy a lot. He sucks. Bad hands. Soft. Poor rebounder for a guy with his size/minutes. Poor defender. His blocks usually come from losing his man and being stranded in lane and taking a desparate swipe.

'Tag was/is better than Haywood. Let's hope Haywood doesn't pop up in anyway's half-baked plan to improve the team. Okur is fine. Fesenko (spelling?) will be a great back up next season and the Jazz can dump Collins (he has no game, but he actually gives some effort on the defensive end).
Jazzman | 8:37 a.m. Feb. 15, 2008
Seattle has a glut of big men on their team, perhaps the Jazz could package Collins and Hart in a trade with the Sonics. Collison, Wilcox, Petro, these guys are young physical players and any one of em could help the Jazz.
BLinder | 10:09 a.m. Feb. 15, 2008
I'm with Trade No one - if it ain't broke, don't trade it. I'm new to BBall, so maybe I just don't get it. I guess this is what basketball fans do in the second half of the season. Korver has done 'something' for the Jazz since he came in. How 'bout we sit back and see what this current configuration can do before we scream for all new personnel? Only lost 3 since Korver came aboard....something is going right. And, all above who have set forth their preferred lineups that do not include Brewer - are you kidding me? The Jazz took RB without even having him workout for them prior to draft. I assume that someone in the organization saw in him what I do - great potential for a solid long career. He is extremely coachable with great athleticism. Anything he lacks at this point, will improve with time. If they trade him they, and all ye naysayers, will regret it. He has already improved so much under this program, it will only get better. Better the Jazz profit from the time (investment) put into him than another team.
Jazzman | 8:10 a.m. Feb. 16, 2008
It doesn't matter what the Jazz have done since they got Korver. They still lack defense at the center position. With the team they have right now, the Jazz will get bounced quickly from the playoffs without an enforcer in the middle to protect the paint area. It is even on shaky ground if the Jazz will make the playoffs at all. One move still needs to be made, whether or not they do it remains to be seen.
Mike Tebo | 12:41 p.m. Feb. 16, 2008
Hey Jazz haters, I am loving every second of this! The Jazz are a few games away from becoming #1 on the NBA.com power ranking list, they are playing great basketball in nearly every phase of the game. Early this year they had to deal with Okur out, AK-47 needed a jump start, and we had to get the two guard thing worked out. Now you add Korver to an already worked out early season glitch, and HELLO!!!! In 2008 Utah has the best record in the league by far! 2008 NBA Champs and more to come, UTAH JAZZ!! D. Will gets the MVP trophy in the championship game.
Anonymous | 7:27 p.m. Feb. 17, 2008
I think the jazz should try and trade for ben wallace!!

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