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be realistic | 1:40 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
no country in the world lets anyone who wants to come and live without their
say. I have no problem with immigrants whatsoever, In fact I think they provide
a lot of good to our communities. Just do it legally and then you don't
have to be worried about shopping at the mall and having the ICE come and pick
you up. Everyone is welcome here, that is one of the wonderful thing about this
country. Just do it legally.
DN Go For It | 1:40 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Please publish where they can get LDS welfare and help . Just wondering , I have
never seen it?
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Came here legally | 1:54 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
I too came to this country looking for something better but I did it legally.
When I came, I adapted to the country not expecting the country to adapt to me.
I am now an American citizen and have seven children and certainly can feel for
families that are torn apart. But there has to be a better way than living in
fear with the constant threat of being torn apart and thrown in jail.
Hmmm | 4:41 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Being a criminal is a crime. It hurts you and your family. Go home.
Don't risk getting caught and hurting them and you. It is not my
responsibility to take care of criminals or feel sorry for you for coming here
and knowingly breaking my laws.
Jay | 5:10 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
I am sorry these families are having to go through this. However, if they had
not broken the law, they would not be in this situation. They brought it upon
themselves. On the most basic level they are stealing.
There are poor people all over the world. There are poor people in every country on the planet, with the maybe the exception of Monaco. We even have poor here in the United States! What are we doing for them?
There are two ways to do things--the right way and the wrong way. Looks like these people elected to do things the wrong way. Now they must suffer the consequences of their actions.
And please, don't you bleeding hearts try to give a guilt trip *me* for *their* bad decisions. If you or I were to break the law, we could expect the same treatment.
There are poor people all over the world. There are poor people in every country on the planet, with the maybe the exception of Monaco. We even have poor here in the United States! What are we doing for them?
There are two ways to do things--the right way and the wrong way. Looks like these people elected to do things the wrong way. Now they must suffer the consequences of their actions.
And please, don't you bleeding hearts try to give a guilt trip *me* for *their* bad decisions. If you or I were to break the law, we could expect the same treatment.
Gringo Ward | 5:06 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Many are making a better life by doing drug trafficking, being a coyote in
smuggling in illegal immigrants at a hefty price, driving without a license with
no insurance, free medical and identity theft. I am giving you this information
because you are apparently not aware of these practices. This should help you
with the tone, and substance of your messages on this issue.
The US Department is in big trouble by sanctioning trucks entering from Mexico on our US Highways, and this issue will be in our High Court soon. This takes jobs away from our own truck drivers in the US, and it is illegal. You should listen to the news on CNN to be more informed on all the issues of Illegal Immigration.
Please pass this on to Joe
The US Department is in big trouble by sanctioning trucks entering from Mexico on our US Highways, and this issue will be in our High Court soon. This takes jobs away from our own truck drivers in the US, and it is illegal. You should listen to the news on CNN to be more informed on all the issues of Illegal Immigration.
Please pass this on to Joe
Bob G | 5:23 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Money received or gotten by illegal means does not belong to them. The money
should be given to the state and used as tax revenues not collected from these
illegal scum low lifes. The families new the risks of being illegal and should
suffer the consequences of their own actions. If they don't like it they
can return to Mexico across the Rio Grande from whence they come, and don't
forget the kids, we don't want you saying we wouldn't let you take
them with you. The illegal children of illgals do not bleong here either and are
not citizens of the US. They may have been birthed here but concieved in mexico
and transported illegally across the border as hidden human smuggling.
Doug Slater | 5:27 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Prisons are full of "used to be" parents, whose families are having to
cope without the Breadwinner.
These people created their own problem here without making a concerted effort to correct the situation in their own country. Granted, some are trying to do so legally and are frustrated by our bureacracy.
There is the real problem and our government is not making it possible for the legal immigrant to come here in a timely manner. Why? Having shuffled paper around an office, I still can't see why it takes years to process any application.
These people created their own problem here without making a concerted effort to correct the situation in their own country. Granted, some are trying to do so legally and are frustrated by our bureacracy.
There is the real problem and our government is not making it possible for the legal immigrant to come here in a timely manner. Why? Having shuffled paper around an office, I still can't see why it takes years to process any application.
Sanity | 5:34 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
We need to make it easier for these folks to immigrate to the United States
legally. Our country was built on the backs of immigration. They set a work
ethic example for our children. They do need to be here legally but we need to
clear the way for that. It is too expensive currently for them to do it legally.
It's time to solve this immigration issue. The immigrants should learn
english as part of their process.
unmoved | 5:30 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
While as a single mother know the heartache at times of not being able to
provide essentials for my family, I did not resort to breaking the law. My
teen daughters cannot find work in our area, none of the teens here work,
because there are too many illegals who will work for nothing. When my company
laid closed and laid us off, again I was competing with illegals for the jobs I
needed to keep us a float. I was not in debt, had no credit cards with balances
and had always paid cash for old cards, but I still got so far behind in my
bills, taxes and car registrations. It was very painful. Do not believe for a
minute that they are just taking jobs Americans don't want. Any job, from
janitor to cashier would have kept me a float three years ago. Most, not all,
of the pain I've experienced in my life has been the result of some thing I
did. I think the tears of Ms. Ortiz are similar. I am sympathetic to her, but
at the same time lets humanely give them a ticket back to their country of
origins.
Why put yourself in this place? | 5:31 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Why aren't the unions in the country protesting this wave of illegals?
They depress the wage scale all over America. I do not live in Utah. I live in
a north eastern state.
Reality | 5:57 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
These people broke the law. When US citizens break the law does the paper run
articles on the families they will be leaving without an income. No.
Their have been immigration laws for many years, not only in this country but in every country to protect the workers. When the government stopped enforcing the law, they took advantage of it. Now the economy is turning bad, they are enforcing the laws, and the time has come for them and their families to go back to their homeland. It's not the government or society that's splitting the families, it's by their choice. Their families can go with them.
Mexico has the 14th strongest economy in the world and protects it's southern border from immigration violations.
Their have been immigration laws for many years, not only in this country but in every country to protect the workers. When the government stopped enforcing the law, they took advantage of it. Now the economy is turning bad, they are enforcing the laws, and the time has come for them and their families to go back to their homeland. It's not the government or society that's splitting the families, it's by their choice. Their families can go with them.
Mexico has the 14th strongest economy in the world and protects it's southern border from immigration violations.
Pete | 6:05 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Undocumented illegal aliens knew there would be risks when sneaking into the
United States. They knew they were breaking the law. They chose to become
criminals, they chose not to follow the rules. If the United States and Utah
change the law for every illegal alien, we might as well throw out all laws.
Their case should be a show case of Justice done right by Utah. They must be
sent home, at their country's expense. Let this be a wake up call to all
other law breaking, sneaks, that without remorse, defile the United States. Up
holding the law is the honorable thing to do. Utah should not slap the legal
citizens in the face by allowing these law breakers leniency.
Shun | 6:07 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Help this poor people to return to their country, and do the things right,and
learn to respect the law.
Enter Name | 6:12 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Hey Des News, you forgot to mention one thing, ALL THESE PEOPLE WERE ILLEGAL!!!
deno | 6:16 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
What is so hard about understanding "illegal"? The families always
suffer when anyone breaking the law is arrested. Whether it be drugs, poaching,
DUI or any illegal activity. Welcome to Utah...obey the laws or leave!!
Migra man | 6:16 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
When you live a life of deceit and fake who you really are, it eventually plays
out and you ultimately pay the consequences.
Back back home, start over, and try doing things the right way for a change!
Back back home, start over, and try doing things the right way for a change!
FED UP | 6:30 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Universal Industrial Sales and like businesses that hire illegal aliens are the
problem here. If They wouldn't offer jobs to theses people, we
wouldn't have this problem. If these places get raided and their employees
get busted, then the fines should be imposed on the business at such a rate that
the fine would include providing for the affected families until they can get
their affairs settled to go back to their homes. Now that so many illegals have
come and partaken of the free enterprize and learned capitalistic ways, go back
to your homes and implement them there.
Timj | 6:35 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Sad situation.
As long as there are jobs here and no jobs there, they'll keep on coming. Walls won't stop them. Fanatical volunteers at the border won't stop them. Raids like this won't stop them.
What will stop them is improving conditions in their home countries.
Until the US realizes this, and works toward it, they'll keep coming.
As long as there are jobs here and no jobs there, they'll keep on coming. Walls won't stop them. Fanatical volunteers at the border won't stop them. Raids like this won't stop them.
What will stop them is improving conditions in their home countries.
Until the US realizes this, and works toward it, they'll keep coming.
U. S. Citizen | 6:41 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
If these immigrants love it here so much, they should go through the legal
process!! They say we don't understand the poverty in their country? We do,
but that does not give them a free ticket into our Country! They don't
realize how much money they are costing the U.S Citizens!!! If they want to
come here, fine, but abide by OUR laws!!!!
My country | 6:46 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
The United States of America is a sovereign nation.
We as citizens of the USA have the right to determine our borders.
We have the right to determine who enters the country.
These people have entered our borders without following our rules.
They expect us to bilingually educate their children.
They expect us to subsidize their health care.
They expect us to "understand" when their bad ones commit crimes like DUI, drugs, theft or even rape and murder.
My wife (a legal immigrant) is being dragged into a class-action lawsuit with a Spanish speaker. He says that while she worked in an insurance office years ago that she didn't properly explain the insurance and left him under-insured. Even though he signed all the papers in English. Or in other words, they want our whole world translated for them at our expense, or else they will come with lawyers to sue, sue, sue.
I have seen first hand the poverty these people come from. I have sympathy for them. But they come like uninvited guests to a party and once there, demand to be served.
We as citizens of the USA have the right to determine our borders.
We have the right to determine who enters the country.
These people have entered our borders without following our rules.
They expect us to bilingually educate their children.
They expect us to subsidize their health care.
They expect us to "understand" when their bad ones commit crimes like DUI, drugs, theft or even rape and murder.
My wife (a legal immigrant) is being dragged into a class-action lawsuit with a Spanish speaker. He says that while she worked in an insurance office years ago that she didn't properly explain the insurance and left him under-insured. Even though he signed all the papers in English. Or in other words, they want our whole world translated for them at our expense, or else they will come with lawyers to sue, sue, sue.
I have seen first hand the poverty these people come from. I have sympathy for them. But they come like uninvited guests to a party and once there, demand to be served.
Anonymous | 6:56 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Thanks for this pathetic story of victimization, and thanks to the INS for
taking a small step to enforce the laws of this country. The world is full of
stories of great human tragedy. Think of the millions of Iraqis who were
systematically exterminated by Saddam Hussein, the victims in Darfur and
countless others we don't even know about. Shouldn't we open our
borders to all of them and allow them to illegally immigrate? Why are Mexicans
given preference over all the other downtrodden people of the world? Controlled
legal immigration has always been good for America. The continued flood of
illegal immigrants will lead to the end of America as we know it leaving our
children and grandchildren to live under socialist rule. I suggest that these 2
fine D-News reporters try to live in Mexico illegally. No doubt their families
would be weeping for them as well.
bushie | 7:04 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
A huge majority of American citizens want illegal immigration stopped - liberal,
conservative - it doesn't matter and yet the Deseret News has to try to tug
at heartstrings by showing a picture of a crying Latino woman on the front page
after an ICE raid. Give me a break... come to this country properly - and I do
think the Government should allow way more legal immigraton
BBurke | 7:11 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Dial 1 for legal!
It's time to go home and reform your own country. It's no longer acceptable for you to bring your familes to change our schools, streets and health care.
We are tired of the sob stories from the lawbreakers and the whiney press.
It's time to go home and reform your own country. It's no longer acceptable for you to bring your familes to change our schools, streets and health care.
We are tired of the sob stories from the lawbreakers and the whiney press.
Badger | 7:13 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Its time they go back home and build up their own countries.
The illegal invasion and colonization has to stop!
The sheister US employer with a 50% illegal workforce, should spend a considerable time in jail with a hefty fine on top!
The illegal invasion and colonization has to stop!
The sheister US employer with a 50% illegal workforce, should spend a considerable time in jail with a hefty fine on top!
Come to America | 7:14 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
I believe in the American Dream of a better life. Come, bring your talents,
your skills, your desire to work and improve your statues. Bring your families,
and hopes for the future.
BUT DO IT LEGALLY.
How can you expect respect and recognition from a Country whose laws you have no respect for and think you can circumvent w/o concequences.
These sob stories are all heartwrenching and I'm sure there's a million of them. But you KNEW when you came here illegally that there were risks involved. You break the law, you must answer to it. And that my friends, is also the American way!
BUT DO IT LEGALLY.
How can you expect respect and recognition from a Country whose laws you have no respect for and think you can circumvent w/o concequences.
These sob stories are all heartwrenching and I'm sure there's a million of them. But you KNEW when you came here illegally that there were risks involved. You break the law, you must answer to it. And that my friends, is also the American way!
Kevin in Texas | 7:18 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Good Job law enforcement! You just destroyed 57 families. Now all of these
peoples' children who are probably citizens by birth, will be on welfare
and have no daddys. Lets be realistic, do you think you are going to do that to
12 million people and their families and feel good about yourselves?
DW | 7:13 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
I can't believe how sympathetic this article is!
ALL of these guys and their families are criminals because they have immigrated illegally, not just the few who have DUI or drug charges against them.
Their plight initially draws pity, but the reality is they are the burden of U.S. taxpayers. Until we have a guest-worker program that makes sense, people will try to immigrate illegally. However, the hardships that come to their families in these circumstances are natural consequences of their decisions, not ours.
It is admirable that some of the students of Orem Jr High are concerned about social justice, but their naivety puts them on the wrong side of this issue. If you want to help these folks, write a letter to your congressman and suggest a creative solution to the immigration quandry.
Since this is an election year, something might actually get done!
ALL of these guys and their families are criminals because they have immigrated illegally, not just the few who have DUI or drug charges against them.
Their plight initially draws pity, but the reality is they are the burden of U.S. taxpayers. Until we have a guest-worker program that makes sense, people will try to immigrate illegally. However, the hardships that come to their families in these circumstances are natural consequences of their decisions, not ours.
It is admirable that some of the students of Orem Jr High are concerned about social justice, but their naivety puts them on the wrong side of this issue. If you want to help these folks, write a letter to your congressman and suggest a creative solution to the immigration quandry.
Since this is an election year, something might actually get done!
Jazz Fan | 7:14 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
All criminals and law-brakers should ALWAYS be fearful. THANK YOU.
Big Brent | 7:24 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
These people are no different the the families of other people who commit
felonies. Thieves and sex offenders have families too. Those families suffer
hardships when their main breadwinners are arrested for the crimes they have
committed.
The people who were arrested chose to commit a misdmeanor (or a felony if they have been deported before) and compound it with a felony after they got here. If they didn't want to do the time, they shouldn't have commited the crime. If they don't like it, they can deport themselves before they get arrested. That way they can apply for a legal work visa and not be barred from re-entry into the U.S. for ten years
The people who were arrested chose to commit a misdmeanor (or a felony if they have been deported before) and compound it with a felony after they got here. If they didn't want to do the time, they shouldn't have commited the crime. If they don't like it, they can deport themselves before they get arrested. That way they can apply for a legal work visa and not be barred from re-entry into the U.S. for ten years
Jerry R. | 7:23 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Cry me a river! Illegals need to go home and take their families with them.
That way they can remain a family. If they want to come back to America do it
legally, just like the rest of us. The writers of this article are so slanted
and biased they should quit their jobs in shame. It is that kind of lawbreaking
attitude that encourages illegal aliens to come to Utah.
Chris T | 7:29 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
It is sad for these families, and I do feel sorry for the children - but why
don't they just come here LEGALLY, and then all the problems go away? Is
there some reason why they cannot do that?
Fair Game | 7:29 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
BOO HOO.. "All they wanted was a better way of life." I think
I've figured out their thinking, so I can do the same thing & cry. I
want a better way of life so, because I drive a car that's constantly
breaking down, I can steal a better one. My kids don't always get what they
want, so I can shoplift it & not be prosicuted. If I should be arrested, on
any of these charges, my wife can expect someone to take care of my family.
After all, I'm not there to provide for them. "The strength of society
is families." It begins with teaching the families they can't pick and
choose what laws they obey. According to a CNN Report, there are as many as
80,000 illegals living in Utah. The same report said: " A growing number of
those illegal aliens are using stolen Social Security numbers for their work
papers -- 132,000 Utah residents had their Social Security numbers stolen in
2000. That's five percent of Utah's population. There hasn't been
an update since then."
Tony | 7:36 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
I like this proposed Nebraska law.
"Hiring illegal immigrants could put businesses on the hook for costs ranging from education to welfare, under a bill introduced in the Legislature.
The bill (LG1170) brought Wednesday by Senator Tom White of Omaha would provide for the recovery of costs for public education, health care and public assistance programs used by illegal immigrants and their families, spouses or other dependents.�
It will sure put a crimp in hiring any illegals. Maybe Utah should try it.
"Hiring illegal immigrants could put businesses on the hook for costs ranging from education to welfare, under a bill introduced in the Legislature.
The bill (LG1170) brought Wednesday by Senator Tom White of Omaha would provide for the recovery of costs for public education, health care and public assistance programs used by illegal immigrants and their families, spouses or other dependents.�
It will sure put a crimp in hiring any illegals. Maybe Utah should try it.
Carlo F. | 7:44 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
No mention of any laws that were broken or illegal activities. We need to read
about the bad activities of illegals, not just the "heartbreaking sob
stories".
Anonymous | 7:40 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
It sucks to face the consequences of our own actions, doesn't it?
Where's the article about all of the wives that cry because their husbands
get arrested for drugs or worse? Facts:
1. They knew they were working here illegally
2. They continued doing it anyway.
I feel for those affected, but I'll bet every arrest for any crime has regret. Try following the law.
1. They knew they were working here illegally
2. They continued doing it anyway.
I feel for those affected, but I'll bet every arrest for any crime has regret. Try following the law.
Kelly M. | 7:42 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Every single ICE employee who participated in this raid needs a raise in pay and
a hero's medal. Real Americans doing what is right for the country: go all
the way ICE, don't stop here!
Gramme | 7:43 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
This is a terrible situation, the families are suffering for the choices their
parents made. I am all for legal immigration but when you break the laws and
come into a country illegally you have to be prepared to pay the price even
though it affects all your family. This should be a sign to all who want to
break the law, you are not only hurting yourself and putting yourself in danger
but that of your whole family. If you love your family you would try all the
legal ways to enter the US. There are lots of people who have gone this route
that are still on the list and because they are obeying the laws of the land
they should have first access to the jobs here in the US. My heart goes out to
the wives and children of these men who tried to beat the laws but we cannot
allow this to continue, we all have to live by the laws of the land whether we
are from another country or our own United State of America. Let this be a
terrible lesson learned the hard way for all those who think they can win.
Gary | 7:46 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
what don't you understand about legal and not legal. i'm sorry for the
family but i did not bring them here and each and every one of the people that
come here that are not legal knows what can happen if they are found out. i can
not break the laws of this country without facing the results of my actions. i
am also believe that the company should pay big time for hiring these people.
Steve | 7:50 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
While I empathize with the families who are now left to fend for themselves, I
also have to look at the fact that laws are being broken. When the father of a
family is put in jail for breaking any other law (even non-violent ones in which
he is just trying to make ends meet) we don't see the same media uproar.
The problem is that there really is no good solution now that we are so deep in
the problem.
Ski2work | 7:50 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Amazing how this report glosses over the fact MOST of those illegals arrested
for immigration violations, they were ALSO arrested for IDENTITY THEFT! The
whining from the advocate sides is nauseating...seems NONE OF THEM can accept
responsibility for their criminal actions! It's all the governments
fault...those bad boys from ICE enforcing the law and recovering and identifying
STOLEN US Citizen's IDs from these poor, illegal aliens just trying to feed
their families. Oh my bad...what did this report say about some having prior
records for drugs too? Darn..who's fault is that? If these people are
"living in cardboard shacks in Mexico"...why don't they DO
SOMETHING IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY? Revolutions seem to work...go for it CHANGE your
government and quit bringing your problems over here! Goog lord our country was
built on revolutions and sacrafice...it's about these folks start
considering sacrafice for their own country as well.
Unjust | 7:57 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Our elected leaders should be the ones put in jail. It is the fault of our
Country's leadership. We "encourage" illegal immigration by
having super lax border security and by not having a documented working program.
If we can't stop them from getting here and we can't create a worker
program then the problem is with our Gov't and not these people. Any one
of us in their shoes would do the exact same thing. If any of them have
committed a crime then of course I am for deporting those one immediately. But
all effort needs to be put on creating border security and in creating a guest
worker program where we can document each person that crosses the border. This
is a joke just throwing all these guys in jail. It the USA's fault for
encouraging illegals with the way our Gov't has set everything up. I am a
super conservative voter, but with illegals we have to be fair and just and
compassionate. I think this is a tragedy. Fault is on our elected leaders for
doing nothing about the border and enforcing it.
Insanity. | 8:03 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
I would kick some butt if this happened in my city. This is an outrage. People
of Utah County, get excited about something that has nothing to do with sports.
Contact all of your representatives (City, County, State, Congressional) and
start kicking butt. This is so wrong, it kills me. Notice...no raids in SLC yet.
Cause in SLC we have a heart.
No sympathy | 8:07 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Oh yeah lets feel bad for these people who broke the law, come into the country
legally and you wouldn't have this problem.I am glad the federal government
is cracking down pretty soon Utah will look like California with a dozen illegal
immigrants on every corner waiting to be hired illegally. I am all for finding a
better life but follow the law.
Sorry | 8:04 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
Yes it is too bad for the famlies. But do we see the same out cry when a man or woman of any other race is arested for a crime. Do the activisits get all up in arms about them? Do they say we are destroying a family?
Those that were arest broke the law. They came to this country illegaly, they stay here illegaly.
Either we are a country of laws or we a we not.
Now with a shortage of workers the company will now have to raise its pay to get legal workers or they will have to close. My bet is they raise pay and keep selling their products.
Annoyed | 8:17 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
This story is sad. It tells of people with nothing trying to improve their
lives. That is a great goal. But the key word here is ILLEGAL. That means one
thing, folks. They broke the law. They have forged documents and criminal
histories. This is not our fault. Yet the bleeding hearts make it sound like the
USA is the bad person here, enforcing the laws. They want the benefits but not
the responsibility. My ancestors came from UK, swore an oath, served and died
for THIS coluntry to protect our freedoms. These people want to come here, fine,
then do it legally. Get rid of your flags, your holidays, and become AMERICANS.
Be part of the solution, not enhancing the problems.
Jason T | 8:13 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
I think that bail should have been set a lot lower than $7500 for those who
haven't committed a crime. These people aren't dangerous and it is
costing taxpayers every second they are in jail.
I am a little frustrated by the article's premise that poverty in Mexico justifies illegal immigration. Every sovereign country must be able to determine who can come within its borders to live and work. To say we should have a borderless world is irresponsible and dangerous. Add to that the fact that some these immigrants may have been using fake documents, or even someone else's identity, and I believe this action was warranted.
That said, I am somewhat torn because I believe that these 'illegals' actually make America's economy stronger by allowing growth that would otherwise not happen. Americans are a people that start businesses, but lack of manpower often limits growth potential.
The real crisis may occur if a major recession happens and Americans suddenly have to compete with 'illegals' for those jobs.
I am a little frustrated by the article's premise that poverty in Mexico justifies illegal immigration. Every sovereign country must be able to determine who can come within its borders to live and work. To say we should have a borderless world is irresponsible and dangerous. Add to that the fact that some these immigrants may have been using fake documents, or even someone else's identity, and I believe this action was warranted.
That said, I am somewhat torn because I believe that these 'illegals' actually make America's economy stronger by allowing growth that would otherwise not happen. Americans are a people that start businesses, but lack of manpower often limits growth potential.
The real crisis may occur if a major recession happens and Americans suddenly have to compete with 'illegals' for those jobs.
Confused | 8:18 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
It is a very sad thing that families are being torn a part, but these are people
who were breaking the law how it stands. If we want anything to change we need
to confront the laws. Immigration it ridiculous. It is such a long, expensive,
and frustrating experience. Provided, we shouldn't just let anyone in, but
there should be some middle ground somewhere so that we can feel good about
letting through hard workers in, and keeping criminals out. That way we
don't have to feel bad sending back illegals because we made it fair in the
first place.
Sad story | 8:19 a.m. Feb. 9, 2008
I really feel for the innocent victims here. But what is more important is that
these "undocumented" workers are breaking the law. They are in this
country ILLEGALLY, and that puts them and their families in jeopardy. The world
wants the US's money and assistance, until the laws have to be obeyed.
Then, all they want to do is castigate us for our laws and beliefs. The illegals
(mostly mexicans) want our welfare, free education, medical, and other give
aways, while hanging foreign flags and desicrating ours. If this is such a bad
place to be, then answer this - why do the people still flock to America? And
the press wonders why average Americans do not want the illegals here??
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Maria Ortiz, who has been trying to answer questions from families affected by the Lindon raid, cries as she talks of their plight.
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The Mexican government at all levels is corrupt and demonstrably uncaring about creating jobs for its own citizens, and wants them to come to the US to mask its own terrible shortcomings-- illegals send back $25 Billion dollars to Mexico.
Why can't Mexicans obey the law?