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With Romney out, Utahns in quandary
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It's time to get past the need to have only the social conservative in office. The remaining candidates are all good people, in both parties, and none of them are working to deliberate harm.
Also, a while back everyone was saying that they wanted romney as "the best man for the job". From this article, it looks like a bit of an admission of what everyone knew all along...it was actually along religious lines for its' own sake.
He will go to the convention with some clout. He hasn't thrown his support to anyone. In the final analysis Republicans in Utah will vote for John McCain; he is the best choice of the remaining folks in the race on either side of the aisle. Mrs. Bill Clinton and Mr. Barack Obama have huge baggage in what they would bring to the office. They both appeal to the remnants of the unwashed and aging hippie residue still abroad in the land. The young people in this country and those who are looking for a utopia America, total giveaways to the less affluent (healthcare, etc.) and appeasement to threats both here and abroad are pollyanna and unrealistic. In the final analysis, most right thinking people will vote for John McCain, including those who are mourning Mitt Romney's departure from the race; they will stay in the fold and vote for McCain. Don't try and tell me and those who may be wishywashy in their thinking at the current moment that they will go crazy and vote for democrats. That's bull!!!!
The difference is no one is saying "don't vote for Hillary because a woman can't be trusted as president" or "Obama is a great guy, but he's black, so he's not qualified." If they did, they'd be blackballed by any credible person (even the media).
We can all try to get along and minimize our differences, or we can do as many countries have done in the past and part ways - forming smaller countries for conservatives, liberals, blacks, evangelicals, Mormons, etc. I think we all know how that will play out. The problem with politics is that it is all marketing and in marketing, you create as wide a perception gulf between yourself and your competition as possible. We're really not all that different.
Remember who takes pleasure in making minor differences into a cause for hate.
1. His position regarding illegal immigration doesn't include immediate deportation
2. He voted against the Bush tax cuts
3. He sponsored a bill for campaign finance reform
I consider myself a conservative, and I don't agree with every point of McCain's positions, but I fail to see the overwhelming evil of them that so many people in my faith and party seem to see.
Additionally, his support for the war on terror and views on issues such as abortion and are much closer to traditionally conservative positions than Romney's have been, although Romney has recently become pro-life.
So if you don't like McCain, that's fine, but don't say you're going to vote for Clinton or Obama because McCain is too "liberal."
As for the religious bigot Huckleberry--Urp, slop, bring the mop.
By the way you Utah conservatives out there that now see no choice between McCain and the democrat and so you will vote for McCain as the lessor of two evils, you do have a choice. You may decide that the democrat is better, you could go third party, or leave the president vote blank. Myself, since I voted for Bush in 20004 and came to realize that I was part of the problem, decided never to do that again. To me McCain is worse than a democrat, and as a conservative I can say that by not voting for him I am not part of the problem.
Obama/Clinton - 35%
Assorted right wing kooks - 9%
All this without any personal campaigning, and not much money spent by anyone. By October the big question will have to do with BYU and the BCS.
Those who haven't voted yet and still support Romney's message should still get out and vote for him. He hasn't quit, he has SUSPENDED his primary run. You don't have to waste a vote on McCain or Huckabee (I'm still not sure which is worse). You may need to request an absentee ballot since his name may have been removed from the touchscreens on voting day. Mitt hasn't quit and neither should we!
And let's put the "strange history" behind us, OK? Most of that stuff is based on letters and journals of embittered ex-Mormons and anti-Mormons. Some people confuse "authentic" with "true." Separate opinion from fact - just because it was written 100 years ago by an upset person does not make it history.
Outside of Utah, we get plenty of missionaries from other churches stopping by. Mostly, they want to sell literature or "Bible bash." I would like to think our missionaries have other motives. I would like to think I was there to help people who wanted help, not trash their beliefs. I am sorry if your experience has been unfavorable.
1) Deny the Book of Mormon
2) Deny Joseph Smith
3) Admit that God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are all the same person (never mind the dozens of references in the Bible that say otherwise)
4) Stop the missionary program
5) Let people "make up their own minds" if they want to drink, smoke, drink coffee, take drugs, etc.
6) Stop requiring tithing. Instead, send your money to the multi-millionaires on late night TV so they can make more 24-set CDs telling everyone how evil all other religions are
7) Drop the belief that somehow, once you confess that Jesus is the son of God (kinda hard when they're all supposed to be the same person), that any "good work" you do once you've made that confession actually causes you to lose brownie points with the Big Guy.
Want me to keep going?
I would like to believe that most Mormons were more conscerned about ending the tremedous amount of human suffering and crime that poverty is causing than they were with legislating their moral standards on non-Mormons, but unfortunately that doesn't appear to be the case. Go Obama!
There is simply NO way McCain can over come and become president. Once in office, the democrats will move to prematurely pull us out of Iraq, terrorism will take hold, be embolden and strike America again! Only Mitt's commitment against the Jihadists can stop this from happening! Mitt's plan to reduce federal budget 1% a year will shrink government and stimulate the economy! We need Mitt to select conservative judges, there are six who are aged and due for replacement in the next term or two.
In order to vote Romney, there will be some hurdles to over come in the elections ahead. Mainly, the name Mitt Romney will start being pulled from the voting ballots. If your election process hasn't gone electronic yet, you should be able to write-in his name. If it has gone electronic and his name isn't expected to show, then plan ahead and order up an absentee ballot, vote that way. Contact your election divisions and check out the status/balloting is done.
Please cut and paste this and forward to everyone you know, especially those in up coming primaries. Also post in the comments sections of newspaper editorials and article comment area's.
Go Mitt Romney!
It is obvious by your comment that you are truly a Mormon. It's obvious that you know how to tell people to SHUT UP!
I say to everyone--- VOTE OBAMA!
"Mom McCain blamed "the Mormons" for the scandals surrounding the 2002 Olympics in Salt Lake City. Her son immediately disavowed her remarks, and assured America that "Mormons are great people and the fact that Mitt Romney is a Mormon should play no role whatsoever in people's decision."
There were no Mormon involved with the problems associated with the Winter Games? A few bad apples can and do spoil the crop.
Has a older person, in their nineties, in your family ever made a strange comment? Didn't John do the right thing?
So how's the snow, Utahns? I do miss that about Utah!
I have no doubt that Romney is a good person with integrity. However, he didn't fare well in a national political setting because he is not astute at game playing nor at fielding barbs. President Hinckley could to it, Rudy Guliani could also do it. Romney couldn't, Nixon couldn't, but Kennedy could and so could Reagan. For those who think you have to be a Republican to be a good member of the Church, think again! In times past, many church members voted Democratic. Many good church members are democrats or independents. I do think Romney had conservative values with a more moderate track record, unlike Huckabee, who not only shows regional bias but purports some ridiculous, unattainable economic ideas.
I am a Republican who will vote for Obama if I'm given the chance.
Please don't question my religion.
If you want to vote for the adulterous McCain, then be my guess. Meaning you think you know it all. I am sure he will blend into the polygamy group just fine. Who needs morals to run a country. Just keep your republican treasures to yourself.
Like his mindless Mormon supporters, Mitt Romney has lived a life of not being "honest with himself." He has been told by someone else what to believe for 60 years! His ability to think for himself has never developed to maturity (or at all).
Like most Mormons, he was indoctrinated with the idea that you don't take a stand on any absolute values. For example, is murder evil? Apparently, Nephi's assassination of Laban was an OK murder! Instead, you listen to what an authority says, then you pray for confirmation, even if it is morally reprehensible - like polygamy in general, and Joseph Smith's lying about his polygamous relationships for years.
But that decision-making process is religiously heretical, logically irrational, and ethically bankrupt - a far cry from enlightened and independent thought!
That is the source of Mitt-supporters' "quandary" as well as Mitt's "flip-flopping." Mitt and millions of Mormons are waiting around for Monson to tell them what to think and for whom to vote. Only the laws of the land prohibit him from doing so.
Period.
I will instead vote 3rd party.
So lets take a look at Obama. What does he really stand for? Who really knows? He has very little experience and has a record of voting "Present" rather than actually taking sides. To this point, he really does not appear to have any substance whatsoever. That makes me a little uneasy. If he did have a legitimate (and decent) track record, I would consider voting for him. But right now, he seems to have rock star status, especially with all the Hollywood endorsements, but his house is built upon a sandy foundation. He stands for change, but what kind? The kind of change that leaves this country and the constitution in tatters?
I agree with you that a lot of the social programs we have don't work and some even keep the poor poor. Things need to change. We need to do a lot better. So how is ignoring poverty helping the poor?
How is spending $600 billion a year on our military helping? What would happen if we invested that same $600 billion in schools or on microcredit programs which actually do help. We spend hundreds of billions of dollars every year paying for the effects of poverty through medicare, medicare, policing, courts and prisons. Evidence has shown that for every dollar we spend preventing poverty saves us seven dollars down the road.
Although Dr. Paul isn't LDS (at least, not yet), he may as well be. He strictly upholds his oath of office. He's impeccably honest and principled and, I understand, greatly admired President Ezra Taft Benson. In fact, the political principles that he espouses are more or less the same ones that Ezra Taft Benson, J. Reuben Clark Jr., David O. McKay, Joseph Smith Jr., and so many of the Brethren have taught since the Church was restored.
Although the media has already anointed McCainnedy, about half of the national delegates are still up for grabs. Brethren, shall we put our shoulder to that figurative wheel?
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But he tried to play conservative to win that southern vote, and the locals here believed him, because he's Mormon.