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Romney wins Utah, Mass., but suffers series of Super Tuesday losses
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So What | 10:20 a.m. Feb. 5, 2008
So what if McCain is closer to the center than Romney. The center is where
political work gets done. The country is so polarized now it is ridiculous.
McCain and Obama are closer to the center and will end up with their
party's nominations.
All of this talk about McCain being too liberal is hilarious. Have you read what Romney said to get elected in Massachusetts? Now he is ultra-conservative all of a sudden. There is something not right about that, just like his tan in February.
Romney is absolutely right about one thing. Religion should have nothing to do with choosing a candidate. That is why I'm not going to vote for him just because we belong to the same church.
All of this talk about McCain being too liberal is hilarious. Have you read what Romney said to get elected in Massachusetts? Now he is ultra-conservative all of a sudden. There is something not right about that, just like his tan in February.
Romney is absolutely right about one thing. Religion should have nothing to do with choosing a candidate. That is why I'm not going to vote for him just because we belong to the same church.
Alaskka | 10:29 a.m. Feb. 5, 2008
GO MITT 08!!! Ive been to 3 states volunteering for Mitt! In my opinion he is
the only conservative candidate. He is an honest and sincere person and a true
patriot. A businessman is what washington needs. He has been swimming upstream
with the media and has to fight three times as hard as any other candidate just
to get his true message out. Keep fighting MITT!!! today is the day, California
will do IT!!!!
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Party politics: R or D | 10:30 a.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Honestly, the party system is so silly. All it does is create two sides to
counteract each other and therefore not accomplish anything.
Which is why I (a Romney supporter) am actually finding McCain appealing - that he can think for himself and actually accomplish things with the other party as opposed to the attitude of "oh the R's dont(do) like this, so I wont(will) do this"
That, and the fact that I am not confident that Romney will actually do what he says as opposed to changing his tune after election, have me worried.
I'd rather be disappointed in McCain than Romney.
An LDS voter in AZ who's already voted today.
Which is why I (a Romney supporter) am actually finding McCain appealing - that he can think for himself and actually accomplish things with the other party as opposed to the attitude of "oh the R's dont(do) like this, so I wont(will) do this"
That, and the fact that I am not confident that Romney will actually do what he says as opposed to changing his tune after election, have me worried.
I'd rather be disappointed in McCain than Romney.
An LDS voter in AZ who's already voted today.
SLC gal | 10:29 a.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Newsflash: LDS is no longer the majority in UT! If Romney wins, it's
becuase he IS the best canidate. Uthans have more than enough brains to look
beyond his ward and stake credintials, and I AM LDS btw.
Johnnny and Bobby | 10:39 a.m. Feb. 5, 2008
I Just saw a picture of Bobby Knight and thought I was seeing double. Is it me,
or do McCain and Bobby look and act like each other. I'm just curious.
Michael | 10:51 a.m. Feb. 5, 2008
To SLC gal-
LDS is still the majority in Utah- though not in Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City is much more diverse, liberal and urban. That is why we elect such reasonable mayors in Salt Lake City to balance out the rest of the state.
The question is: How long will Mitt hang on after today? I think he is going to have a pretty disappointing day today.
LDS is still the majority in Utah- though not in Salt Lake City. Salt Lake City is much more diverse, liberal and urban. That is why we elect such reasonable mayors in Salt Lake City to balance out the rest of the state.
The question is: How long will Mitt hang on after today? I think he is going to have a pretty disappointing day today.
RE: So What? | 10:51 a.m. Feb. 5, 2008
You are right! Romney has done some flip-flopping! I don't want him
changing his mind on important issues when he is in office. I don't want to
vote for someone that says one thing to get elected but may do another once
elected. At least with the "Straight Talk", I might finally be able to
believe what someone says on the campaign trail!
Polls in Georgia | 11:06 a.m. Feb. 5, 2008
have Romney and McCain in a virtual dead-heat as of the night preceding Super
Tuesday. The weather here is gorgeous (sunny and in the 70s and 80s), so
turnout will be significant. It is anybody's guess what will happen in the
Republican Primary here. Huckabee is polling a distant third, so he is really
not in the picture. Giuliani is still on the Georgia ballot, and will certainly
garner some protest votes. McCain has faded from a strong lead in our state on
the heels of growing conerns about his arrogance and proclivity for over-stating
his importance. Many people are also quite concerned about McCain's hot
temper and strong tendency to speak before he thinks (anybody remember his
tasteless Chelsea Clinton comments?). Not a good combination for international
diplomacy.
net | 11:16 a.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Obama can bring change and unite the country. Romney cannot do that.
RE: net | 11:26 a.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Oh yeah, why can't Romney bring about change and how will Obama bring
change? Do you have some facts for us?
spell checker | 11:49 a.m. Feb. 5, 2008
He's Mormon. I don't think he'll be wining in California.
McRobot Questions... | 11:59 a.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Since watching the debates in CA last week I am wondering a few things
myself:
1) Has McRobot ever answered a question directly?
2) Do any of his answers not involve his military service, or war heroism?
As I was watching the exchange between he and Romney over "Timelines being the buzzword" I couldn't help to wonder how McRobot would handle himself in a real international political discussion with a foreign leader. He would absolutely lose his cool and fly off the handle.
I am no political pundit, but listening to Rush this morning was an eye-opener. Spin tactics by the McRobot camp about the email Sen Dole sent to Rush...the front runners are getting restless I think.
1) Has McRobot ever answered a question directly?
2) Do any of his answers not involve his military service, or war heroism?
As I was watching the exchange between he and Romney over "Timelines being the buzzword" I couldn't help to wonder how McRobot would handle himself in a real international political discussion with a foreign leader. He would absolutely lose his cool and fly off the handle.
I am no political pundit, but listening to Rush this morning was an eye-opener. Spin tactics by the McRobot camp about the email Sen Dole sent to Rush...the front runners are getting restless I think.
Will | 12:02 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Everybody calls Romney on the carpet for flip-flopping. McCain has flip-flopped
as well during his time as senator. All this talk about him being a
straight-talker is not true. I've listened to him in debates, and then in
later debates he changes things. He seems to weasle his way through the system.
And for all the other people that are writing their silly comments about the LDS church and Mormons voting for their own. Please keep them out of this. Honestly it's gotten pretty pathetic. This is a political story, not one about religion. The fact is, for those of you that are making your accusations about Mormons not liking their own and all that other pathetic stuff. It just shows how much you DON'T know.
I'm voting for Romney because of what he has to offer. I'm not voting for McCain because I personally don't feel he has what it takes to lead this country in the way that it needs to be led.
I'm not voting any liberal democrat because, well.. they are liberal. I don't agree with half the things they say.
And for all the other people that are writing their silly comments about the LDS church and Mormons voting for their own. Please keep them out of this. Honestly it's gotten pretty pathetic. This is a political story, not one about religion. The fact is, for those of you that are making your accusations about Mormons not liking their own and all that other pathetic stuff. It just shows how much you DON'T know.
I'm voting for Romney because of what he has to offer. I'm not voting for McCain because I personally don't feel he has what it takes to lead this country in the way that it needs to be led.
I'm not voting any liberal democrat because, well.. they are liberal. I don't agree with half the things they say.
Will | 12:19 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Correction:
I meant to say Mormons liking their own and nobody else...
Hope that makes more sense :)
I meant to say Mormons liking their own and nobody else...
Hope that makes more sense :)
Anonymous | 12:30 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
There is information floating around in one particular comment that I find very
interesting if true.
The information is that Romney was in the top 5% of his college graduating class and McCain was in the bottom 5% of his.
Romney is my man, but especially if this info is true. There is a wide gap, 90%, between the top and bottom for both candidates. Think that makes any difference?
The information is that Romney was in the top 5% of his college graduating class and McCain was in the bottom 5% of his.
Romney is my man, but especially if this info is true. There is a wide gap, 90%, between the top and bottom for both candidates. Think that makes any difference?
BL, New Mexico | 12:32 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Anyone ever heard of Harry Reid?? Guess all the Mormons ARE in lockstep with
each other and the Republicans after all. Give me a break!
Stan Amusial | 12:33 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
He should pin his hopes on a donkey instead, he'd have better success.
jr | 12:35 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Romney plans to keep the war going only his sons won't be in uniform or his
grandsons, he may have you focused on the economy but he has helped to put
people on the unemployment lists with his type of business. Don't be
fooled by him the mister nice guy ain't really that nice
Anonymous | 12:42 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Good one BL, New Mexico.. Intellegant comments right there.
Anonymous | 12:46 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
If McCain wins then I could care less who wins the presidency. McCain is not a
conservative. He is going to ruin the republican party. We need a new party
called the Conservative Party. Throw the bums out. Why do we let Orinn Hatch
sit back in Washington and do nothing. I haven't heard a peep from him.
He is a jelly fish that has been in the system to long.
Anonymous | 12:57 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Anonymous you got it dead on. McCain came in 894th out of 899 students in his
class. Whereas Romney graduated from BYU with a Bachelors summa cum laude and
as the valedictorian. Later he recieved an MBA from the joint school of Harvard
Law and Harvard Business graduating cum laude as a Baker Scholar, meaning the
top 5% of his class. Facts are facts, they don't lie.
As For BL, New Mexico. Leave the religious debate out of politics. Who cares who said what when, to paraphrase Ron Paul. Look at the candidates by the issues and by their record, not what group they are affiliated with.
As For BL, New Mexico. Leave the religious debate out of politics. Who cares who said what when, to paraphrase Ron Paul. Look at the candidates by the issues and by their record, not what group they are affiliated with.
To Will | 1:06 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
1) There is nothing wrong with being liberal.
2) If you don't agree with half of the things they say, you must agree with half. Therefore you are neither conservative nor liberal. Talk about a flip-flop. :)
3) I say all that in jest. I am socially conservative, but liberal in how I think government should be run.
2) If you don't agree with half of the things they say, you must agree with half. Therefore you are neither conservative nor liberal. Talk about a flip-flop. :)
3) I say all that in jest. I am socially conservative, but liberal in how I think government should be run.
Duh... | 1:13 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Guy, democracy isn't about looking at the good in all the candidates.
It's about finding the freak and exposing him for what it is. The problem
is that they're all freaks. I would have liked Romney as president, but too
bad he had to run so dirty and lose. Running dirty and winning would have been
fine, but the double whammy factor just makes me sad. Boo hoo.
Registered Mormon Democrat | 1:32 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
I really don't care who wins the primary. While I am thrilled to see
someone of my faith have as much success running for President, I just
don't think he is the right man for the job considering the issues at hand.
Anonymous | 1:36 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Exactly my point Anonymous! Being from Nevada (Sen. Reid's home turf)
before coming to New Mexico, I know full well that the Mormons don't flock
unilaterally around a candidate just because he is a Mormon. As a matter of
fact, I have personally yet to meet a Mormon who has ever voted for Sen. Reid.
Romney was not my first choice. However, given the choice between he and Sen.
McCain, there is no contest. It is not a Mormon thing.
Will | 1:32 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
RE: To Will
1) There is nothing wrong with having the agency to be liberal.
2) This one was great. I'm a flip-flopper. Quick question... do you work for the media or just think like they do? Any more of my words you would like to twist around. I am conservative, and will never vote for a Liberal or the majority, or half of their ideas or whatever. Everyonce and a while I think they see some light and say something intellegent that agrees with conservative ideas. In those cases, I reserve the right to support the idea, and maintain my conservative status. Either way, I would never vote in that direction, because the Republicans are the ones that will do what I feel is best for the country. For me, Mitt Romney will fill that role the best.
3) I'm glad that at least you have a standing, but I will stay that I am against liberals because I'm stongly against abortion, gay-rights, and same-sex marriage. Barack Obama seems like a sharp candidate for the Democrats, but he still backs liberal ideas, therefor, I will not vote for him or any other liberal Democrat.
1) There is nothing wrong with having the agency to be liberal.
2) This one was great. I'm a flip-flopper. Quick question... do you work for the media or just think like they do? Any more of my words you would like to twist around. I am conservative, and will never vote for a Liberal or the majority, or half of their ideas or whatever. Everyonce and a while I think they see some light and say something intellegent that agrees with conservative ideas. In those cases, I reserve the right to support the idea, and maintain my conservative status. Either way, I would never vote in that direction, because the Republicans are the ones that will do what I feel is best for the country. For me, Mitt Romney will fill that role the best.
3) I'm glad that at least you have a standing, but I will stay that I am against liberals because I'm stongly against abortion, gay-rights, and same-sex marriage. Barack Obama seems like a sharp candidate for the Democrats, but he still backs liberal ideas, therefor, I will not vote for him or any other liberal Democrat.
net | 1:43 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Huckabee has already won W.Virginia's 30 delegates. They all ganged up on
Romney and McCain's supporter's threw their votes to him.
REP | 1:56 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Not really a McCain supporter, but Romney could never survive what McCain did
as a POW. But he never would have been there in the first place. It would be
interesting to see how much money both their parents had back then. Might
explain the "free pass", such as the ones his sons are getting now, in
Iraq. Course it is hard work what they're doing these days, living off
dad's fortune, traveling the country, staying in $300 a night, luxury
hotels with their families. (Kinda wish he was my dad!!)...
To Will | 1:51 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
1) You are right
2) No I do not work for the media. Just a punk with a sense of humor.
3) I agree with you 100%.
2) No I do not work for the media. Just a punk with a sense of humor.
3) I agree with you 100%.
To Rep | 1:55 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
REP, who are you to say whether Romney could have survived or not? Pretty
irrelevant comments don't you think?
Roger Lodge | 2:03 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
My preference for president:
1. Romney the Moderate Mormon
2. Obama the Hopeful Black
3. Hillary the Scorned Woman
4. McCain the Reckless Maverick
5. Huckster the Anti-Mormon Preacher
1. Romney the Moderate Mormon
2. Obama the Hopeful Black
3. Hillary the Scorned Woman
4. McCain the Reckless Maverick
5. Huckster the Anti-Mormon Preacher
net | 2:04 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Correction, 18 not 30 delegates.
Send Rombot home! | 2:23 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
My preference for President:
1. Anybody but Romney. ANYBODY.
1. Anybody but Romney. ANYBODY.
The McCain Disaster | 2:22 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
# McCain supports measures that seek to undermine the pharmaceutical industry in
the U.S. Most of the major medical advances in the last decade have been in
pharmacology and the U.S. leads this industry throughout the world. His
legislation is stealth national health care.
# McCain initiated legislation (McCain-Feingold), protect incumbent politicians from criticism of ordinary citizens, suppressing free speech. McCain simply says he prefers "clean government" over constitutional rights.
# McCain initiated legislation that would provide amnesty to illegal immigrants. One of his top campaign advisors is an official of the Mexican government.
# McCain supported Democrat legislation to impose mandates on insurance coverage that would prevent Americans from making their own choices about healthcare.
# McCain initiated legislation (McCain-Feingold), protect incumbent politicians from criticism of ordinary citizens, suppressing free speech. McCain simply says he prefers "clean government" over constitutional rights.
# McCain initiated legislation that would provide amnesty to illegal immigrants. One of his top campaign advisors is an official of the Mexican government.
# McCain supported Democrat legislation to impose mandates on insurance coverage that would prevent Americans from making their own choices about healthcare.
McCain/Huckabee | 2:36 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
I've never been a fan of McCain--and Huckabee's concerted effort to
assist McCain, along with his anti-Mormon and marginalizing religious jabs, make
him just as unappealing.
Ron Paul would get my vote long before these two clowns.
Ron Paul would get my vote long before these two clowns.
Utahn in California | 2:55 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
I met Romney when I was a student at Boston University, and was there when he
ran against Kennedy for the Senate. I have been impressed by his competence in
his endeavors and really wanted to be able to vote for him on that account. But
when I looked at his views, they seem more conservative than even Bush's.
I can't think of a single issue that I would agree with him on, except for
maybe health care. Too bad. I'm voting Democratic this year.
Oboma Rocks | 2:52 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Nothing against Romney Personally, but I'd rather have a president who
cares more about social security than staying in Iraq.
Eyes Wide Open! | 3:05 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Fact is, if Romney wins the California Republican primary, then he, not McCain,
will have shown that he is a true Liberal in pseudo-conservative clothing. Why?
Because California Republicans are the most liberal in the nation outside of
New York and New England!
Besides, it needs to be accepted that Bush is possibly the most Liberal president in this nation's history, if indeed, as history has shown, that increasing deficits and tanking national budgets into debt hell is the defining mark of a Liberal... Hello... is anyone getting the feeling that the Bush/Republican party junket has gone very surrealistic?
Oh, and by the way, to those who bemoan and complain about the McCain/Huckabee strategy of keeping Romney at bay, well... welcome to the real world of politics... something Romney, the silver spoon fed prince of petty insincerity and flip-floppery, just can't seem to handle or magnanimously deal with. As far as petty smallness of their personalities and character are concerned, Bush and Romney are the same, Romney just has a more 'finished' look and approach to his pettiness, but they're petty all the same. Do we really want more of this pettiness in the White House? I surely don't!
Besides, it needs to be accepted that Bush is possibly the most Liberal president in this nation's history, if indeed, as history has shown, that increasing deficits and tanking national budgets into debt hell is the defining mark of a Liberal... Hello... is anyone getting the feeling that the Bush/Republican party junket has gone very surrealistic?
Oh, and by the way, to those who bemoan and complain about the McCain/Huckabee strategy of keeping Romney at bay, well... welcome to the real world of politics... something Romney, the silver spoon fed prince of petty insincerity and flip-floppery, just can't seem to handle or magnanimously deal with. As far as petty smallness of their personalities and character are concerned, Bush and Romney are the same, Romney just has a more 'finished' look and approach to his pettiness, but they're petty all the same. Do we really want more of this pettiness in the White House? I surely don't!
Cindy in CA | 3:13 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
To settle for mediocrity in the other candidates will get you just that. They
aren't standing on solid ground, because they aren't solid to begin
with.
Mitt is solid and says what he believes will move this country forward. He DOES what he says. Remove the fact that he is Mormon and vote for the fact that he is a good American Citizen and vote for that instead of voting for his religion.
When people start voting for the persons qualifications to lead...then we will be getting somewhere.
He's a leader and has already proven that. People whine because he is of another faith and start throwing rocks because they don't like to hear the truth. That's the problem. He can lead this country and knows ALL this issues. And he, like every other American Citizen has the right to change his mind and be humble enough to admit it. Another thing this country lacks...humility.
Mitt For President. You will have my vote!
Mitt is solid and says what he believes will move this country forward. He DOES what he says. Remove the fact that he is Mormon and vote for the fact that he is a good American Citizen and vote for that instead of voting for his religion.
When people start voting for the persons qualifications to lead...then we will be getting somewhere.
He's a leader and has already proven that. People whine because he is of another faith and start throwing rocks because they don't like to hear the truth. That's the problem. He can lead this country and knows ALL this issues. And he, like every other American Citizen has the right to change his mind and be humble enough to admit it. Another thing this country lacks...humility.
Mitt For President. You will have my vote!
Re: Oboma Rocks | 3:13 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Nothing against Obama, but I'd rather have a president that has supporters
that can actually spell his name right.
rep | 3:15 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
To:To Rep Just as the
comments of the 5% graduate stats,this far back, I agree these are irrelavent
factors, just as going even a little further back to the fact that Mitt's
grandpa had five wives, yes?
Constitution hangs by thread | 3:20 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Collusion at it's finest. Back-door, closed door politics. Huck Finn and
McRobot. Do the math people. A vote for Huck is a vote for McCain. A vote for
McCain is a vote for Hilary.
Craig | 3:22 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
We talk of a hero as someone who does special service to friends, church,
nation. One who does not profit from his action. McCain is sure doing this not
profitting from his action.
ROMNEY go to victory!!!!!
ROMNEY go to victory!!!!!
Sweat William | 3:24 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
The flippin' Mittster is going to flop. There just aren't enough
Mormons to vote him in, just like there aren't enough Evangelicals to vote
the Huckster in.
If you want the government put back on track, vote for a Democrat.
If you want the government put back on track, vote for a Democrat.
Do you really believe Mitt? | 3:46 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
I second what "Utahn in California" said.
It's laughable to me to hear Romney fall all over his words about just how gosh darn conservative he is. His conservatism IS scary, and his alignment with the worst President our country has ever seen is even scarier!
PS: Thanks West Virginia!
It's laughable to me to hear Romney fall all over his words about just how gosh darn conservative he is. His conservatism IS scary, and his alignment with the worst President our country has ever seen is even scarier!
PS: Thanks West Virginia!
Liberal Larry really a Neocon? | 3:43 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
Is "Liberal Larry 6:21" really a conservative? He's always
lecturing Conservatives on what their candidates should do to win and always
assumes he knows more about conservative candidates than conservatives do. If
he knows so much about Romney and Mccain, I wonder if he's a closet
Neocon?
If Larry is really a Liberal, he should focus on educating the world about what's GOOD about his heros, instead of always telling the Conservatives what's their candidates must do to win.
He complains about Rush Limbaugh's tactics, but then he uses the same ones. To me he sounds like the Rush Limbaugh of the left.
If Larry is really a Liberal, he should focus on educating the world about what's GOOD about his heros, instead of always telling the Conservatives what's their candidates must do to win.
He complains about Rush Limbaugh's tactics, but then he uses the same ones. To me he sounds like the Rush Limbaugh of the left.
Romney Rocks | 3:52 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
And McCain is the anti-Conservative -- always has been, always will be.
It will be more damaging to have a Republican in the White House ruling as a liberal than a democrat. A liberal Republican ties the hands of the Republicans in the legislature, just like we've gotten a hint of with Pres. Bush.
For this Republican, it's Romney or the Democrat.
It will be more damaging to have a Republican in the White House ruling as a liberal than a democrat. A liberal Republican ties the hands of the Republicans in the legislature, just like we've gotten a hint of with Pres. Bush.
For this Republican, it's Romney or the Democrat.
Steve | 4:11 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
I say skip over Romney and all of them... Obama is the right man/person for the
job. Unfortunately I and another in my family failed to change our status to
"unaffiliated" so we could vote for him, instead we'll have to go
with Romney as a Republican is all I and she can vote for tonight.
DAVID | 4:13 p.m. Feb. 5, 2008
I'm a Mitt supporter and I'm glad MITT's got UTAH wrapped up, but
he doesn't have a chance against McCain for the republican nomination. But
I also don't think the Republican's have a chance anyway this year so
it doesn't really matter. The American people are going to hold the
incumbent (Republican) party responsible for the misguided war and the messed up
economy.
Since I don't see any way Mitt gets the republican nomination, my vote for Obama today is a vote against 4 more years of the Clinton's. I don't like McCain, but anything is better than Billery back in the White House.
Since I don't see any way Mitt gets the republican nomination, my vote for Obama today is a vote against 4 more years of the Clinton's. I don't like McCain, but anything is better than Billery back in the White House.
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There seems to be a real recognition that a vote for Romney is a more-effective counteraction to McCain for those who do want a viable alternative. After making calls into Georgia--I am optimistic that Huckabee may not completely sweep the South and that a recognition is growing in the conservative Republican base that Romney is the only viable candidate.
If he does get 80% + in Utah it will mean a number of non-LDS will have cast their support for Romney as well. I am supporting Romney not out of religious association but because he has the right position on core conservative issues. He recognizes that more Government is not the solution--it's the problem. True conservatives throughout this country are coming around--realizing that McCain is a polarizing figure in the Republican party and is very ill-prepared to guide our nation through the economic minefield that we now face.